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You’re welcome. My tax dollars subsidized your solar panels. The gas tax you’re not paying now is maintaining the roads you drive on. The grid improvements the utilities had to make to be able to buy back your power are paid out of my rate increases. All the charging parking spots they put in at the mall are ultimately paid for by increased prices I have to pay.

But it’s all worth it right? Your rich ass gets to save a little money and be “green”. Except your not. Sounds like you’re trading in a recently manufactured car for another. Car production pollutes more then driving it.

https://www.theguardian.com/environment/green-living-blog/2010/sep/23/carbon-footprint-new-car

It used to be not too long ago they could make cars that drove 300K miles with minimal maintenance. It was a solved problem. Now because of all the moronic emissions and mileage standards cars are too complex and break down after 100K.

Oh and BTW, gas is 2 dollars and change in the entire rest of the US except California. I think it’s disgraceful how the rich people in California are soaking the poor with the gas and energy taxes while the rich go buy a Tesla and slap some solar panels on their roof then look down their noses at them.

kt1652 says

Not free to offend after-all.
I wrote somethings that may upset some people here, and it was taken down.

I wondered where your post went? Someone must have lost some money.

ignoreme says

But it’s all worth it right? Your rich ass gets to save a little money and be “green”.

You don't have to be rich to drive a good EV. I'm driving a Chevy Bolt with a 50 mile daily roundtrip commute and I am saving money from my previous car (Hyundai Sonata). I don't have solar and just charge at home during off peak hours in the middle of the night. I don't use public charging infrastructure (rarely need to) and there is really no maintenance costs, just windshield wiper fluid and tire rotations.

I didn't get an EV for the environment or gas savings, I got one because I knew EV's are an absolute blast to drive. The Bolt is the fastest and most fun car I have ever owned......and the Teslas are 10X better than that!

You can rightfully complain about all the subsidies and the current road usage fees with gas taxes, but I think that will all get straightened out in the coming years as more EV's hit the roads.

Tesla has clearly shown that EV's are the future and they are sharing alot of their breakthrough technology with the entire industry. Those subsidies will benefit alot more people than Tesla stockholders and drivers.

Tim Aurora says

My tax dollars go towards your bloated military budget to protect the Saudi oil. My tax dollars go towards cleaning the polluting environment caused by gas. You get the point, that one party subsides the other on many different fronts.

Very fair point.

socal2 says

You don't have to be rich to drive a good EV. I'm driving a Chevy Bolt with a 50 mile daily roundtrip commute and I am saving money from my previous car (Hyundai Sonata).

You don’t have to be rich but you sure can’t be poor. I was mainly responding to the OP who is bragging about how green he is buying or committing to buy 100k of electric vehicles plus another 30k of solar panels all subsidized in part by many people who can’t afford to do so.

But even a 30-40k car is fairly expensive to a lot of Americans.

kt1652 says

I wrote somethings that may upset some people here, and it was taken down.

If you personally attacked other users, yes, that will be taken down.

Aside from that, you can pretty much say what you want (subject to legalities I am obligated to deal with, like no threats of violence, no deliberate copyright infringement, etc).

Nothing you said was ever removed for political reasons, or because someone was "offended".

Tim Aurora says

My tax dollars go towards your bloated military budget to protect the Saudi oil.

I’m 100% for reducing government spending in all areas including military. But if we’re going to stack rank places to cut, subsidies for rich people to buy cars and solar panels has to be at the top of the list.

At least with military spending we all get the same level of benefit. But with solar and car subsidies the benefits all go to the rich who can afford them while the cost is supported largely by the people who can’t. If reducing CO2 was actually the goal it, more nuclear would be the most efficient way to go about it and the cost would be equally shared.

ignoreme says

I think it’s disgraceful how the rich people in California are soaking the poor with the gas and energy taxes while the rich go buy a Tesla and slap some solar panels on their roof then look down their noses at them.

Yet, the same poor people keep voting for the same one-party rule.

@kt1652, what battery do you have? Powerwall?

ignoreme says

Tim Aurora says

My tax dollars go towards your bloated military budget to protect the Saudi oil.

I’m 100% for reducing government spending in all areas including military. But if we’re going to stack rank places to cut, subsidies for rich people to buy cars and solar panels has to be at the top of the list.

At least with military spending we all get the same level of benefit. But with solar and car subsidies the benefits all go to the rich who can afford them while the cost is supported largely by the people who can’t. If reducing CO2 was actually the goal it, more nuclear would be the most efficient way to go about it and the cost would be equally shared.

Liberal_in_blackface says

ignoreme says

I think it’s disgraceful how the rich people in California are soaking the poor with the gas and energy taxes while the rich go buy a Tesla and slap some solar panels on their roof then look down their noses at them.

Yet, the same poor people keep voting for the same one-party rule.

100% agreed. That's the leftoid hypocrisy. I have no problems with people driving electric cars and championing them but they have to understand that it's an industry for the rich while the poor are subsidizing them.

Also my lefty friends in the BA always vote for maximum diversity and inclusion but then bus their kids into private schools complaining about the poor quality of public schools.