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The whole impeachment thing is such a transparent attempt to defeat democracy that it's a wonder anyone supports it at all.

Do we have democracy or do we not? That is what is on trial here.

Posted in the impeachment thread, but the message is changing rapidly, even for some far left media. https://www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2019/12/impeachment-warranted-also-bad-idea/603616/

Patrick says

The whole impeachment thing is such a transparent attempt to defeat democracy that it's a wonder anyone supports it at all.

Do we have democracy or do we not? That is what is on trial here.

it was a grossly miscalculated move by Pelosi and her minions. They were banking on Trump "unlikability" factoring into this sham inquiry. What they forget was people hate Pelosi and her crew as much as they hate Trump.

They were also desperate. Whenever I see Creepy Joe get on stage, or Warren barely filling a bowling alley waiting area, both sides know neither have a shot at unseating Trump next year. Mini Mike Bloomberg? The dudes mouth can't hide his disdain for working class and poor people. He's the typical limousine liberal of the West/East Coast variety and his polling numbers show it.

With the economy smoking hot, the only way they unseat Trump is if this "hail mary" impeachment succeeds, and it's looking more and more like that's a very remote possibility at BEST.

Mini Mike Bloomberg? The dudes mouth can't hide his disdain for working class and poor people. He's the typical limousine liberal of the West/East Coast variety and his polling numbers show it.

Last night ABC News did a hit piece on Bloomberg. They "me-tooed" him with several incidents from the last 20 years.

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

She took out her dentures to suck off Putin?

A "gummer."

HeadSet says

APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says

She took out her dentures to suck off Putin?

A "gummer."

Putin's too smart. With all that botox, It would be like blowing a pygmy blowdart with enough toxin to bring down a 150 pound monkey directly into his dick.

Plus, she couldn't suck or hum worth shit with no muscle tone.

HeadSet says

Mini Mike Bloomberg? The dudes mouth can't hide his disdain for working class and poor people. He's the typical limousine liberal of the West/East Coast variety and his polling numbers show it.

Last night ABC News did a hit piece on Bloomberg. They "me-tooed" him with several incidents from the last 20 years.

Honestly, Bloomberg is an easy target. He has very little self control or deceit when it comes to poor people. He openly says "poor people" shouldn't own guns, he doesn't think they should be having kids, and he believes taxing poor people is "good" for their health since they will have less money to spend on sugary food and drink.

He actually believes this. He's not playing a part or making any jokes, he thinks poor people need to be controlled, guided, and provided for by the government's hand, sound familiar?

Democrats are butt hurt now that politicians are switching parties over this.

Goran_K says

Honestly, Bloomberg is an easy target. He has very little self control or deceit when it comes to poor people. He openly says "poor people" shouldn't own guns, he doesn't think they should be having kids, and he believes taxing poor people is "good" for their health since they will have less money to spend on sugary food and drink.

And after a $100 million ad buy, he’s polling 6-8% nationally already. Too many stupid people.

Patrick says

Do we have democracy or do we not? That is what is on trial here.

Well, we still have a constitution. We know that. At least for now. Sort of.

Do you think it's actually logical to say what so many on the right have said, "From the beginning they wanted to impeach Trump." Yes there was at least one individual quoted as saying that, although I note they don't ever tell us who the individuals were that said that.

Now you can do programming, or even higher architecture level software planning so I know you must be good with logic.

Are you actually buying the argument that since there were at least a few people who said out loud that they have liked to impeach Trump all along, that therefore the corrupt actions that everyone knows Trump took do not rise to the level of impeachable ? Because somehow this must be about them wanting to remove him, and not about what he did ?

I really feel bad for you that you can't step back and look at this objectively. Any objective person (even Trump himself if he is self aware) knows that Trump did something unethical, totally corrupt and wrong here. The only question is whether it is indeed impeachable. The impeachment process puts what he did very strongly on the historical record, becasue there had to be so much debate about it. And either the most key witnesses will be allowed to be called in the senate trial or they won't. Yeah, I'm not talking about Biden's son.

Those key people will talk later, on top of those that already did. The history is going to be crystal clear on this. IT's going to be WAY WAY WAY WAY WAY worse than lying about a blowjob.

Is what he did only unethical and corrupt but not impeachable ? I don't know. But if so, that certainly doesn't mean that this was an attack on democracy. What the fuck ?!

Dude your bias is fricking out of control (is it becasue Trump sometimes reads this forum and had sent you compliments?)

It never had support. Media tried fucking hard to sell it, and failed, because it was too obvious bullshit.

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Riiiiiiight.....MEanwhile 70% or so think Trump did something wrong.

Fortwaynemobile says

because it was too obvious bullshit

Well, that's not what 90% or more of the above average intelligence people are going to think from now until the end of time.

There is no such 70%, fake news.

No one ever asked every American. Numbers pulled out of some rich propaganda assholes is all it is.

marcus says

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Riiiiiiight.....MEanwhile 70% or so think Trump did something wrong.

Trump did something wrong.

For impeacment? First article is VAGUE, "Abuse of Power." Second article makes no sense. as "Obstruction of Congress" is meaningless when the Supreme Court is going to hear the case.

marcus says

Well, that's not what 90% or more of the above average intelligence people are going to think from now until the end of time.

I hope you don’t consider yourself above average intelligence.

marcus says

Well, we still have a constitution.

In spite of repeated and constant assaults upon it by the Democrats.

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Fortwaynemobile says

No one ever asked every American. Numbers pulled out of some rich propaganda assholes is all it is.

Yes. You must be right. There is no way of knowing what people think without asking everyone. Also climate change is a hoax, and reality is whatever you want it to be.

Silly me.

Oh, yes, and I almost forgot. Most of the people that do well in school and end up at the best colleges and universities in the most rigorous programs lack critical thinking skills.
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Quotes from Trump's letter to Pelosi today:

“Speaker Pelosi, you admitted just last week at a public forum that your party’s impeachment effort has been going on for ‘two and a half years,’ long before you ever heard about a phone call with Ukraine.”

“Before the Impeachment Hoax, it was the Russian Witch Hunt.”

“You are the ones interfering in America’s elections. You are the ones subverting America’s Democracy. You are the ones Obstructing Justice. You are the ones bringing pain and suffering to our Republic for your own selfish personal, political, and partisan gain.”

“You and your party are desperate to distract from America’s extraordinary economy, incredible jobs boom, record stock market, soaring confidence, and flourishing citizens. Your party simply cannot compete with our record.”

“Our Founders feared the tribalization of partisan politics, and you are bringing their worst fears to life.”

Good quote from Heartiste today:

I would say three decades of foreign governments and companies wiring payola into the bank accounts and foundation trusts of American Congressmen's family members in exchange for favorable trade conditions is three decades too many.

Patrick says

Good quote from Heartiste today:

I would say three decades of foreign governments and companies wiring payola into the bank accounts and foundation trusts of American Congressmen's family members in exchange for favorable trade conditions is three decades too many.

As soon as Trump is gone, America will be for sale again.

Sadly, I think this is true.

Ceffer says

As soon as Trump is gone, America will be for sale again.

Not if the base that elected Trump elect more non-establishment politicians like Trump. No more Bushes, Clintons, Obamas, etc. Just elect guys who are capable and not tied in with the sleaziness of DC.

marcus says

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Riiiiiiight.....MEanwhile 70% or so think Trump did something wrong.

Fortwaynemobile says

because it was too obvious bullshit

Well, that's not what 90% or more of the above average intelligence people are going to think from now until the end of time.

Oh ho ho ho really?




All your piece of shit socialist establishment swamp dwellers are not winning shit, and this impeacement sham is going down in flames.

Well, abuse of power isn't seeking information about criminal activity from a country with which we have a treaty to do just that.

It's part and parcel of both the President's law enforcement and foreign relations duties.

What happened to the Quid Pro Quo Bribery all the shitlibs and Leftists said we were blind for not being able to see was clearly proven by the hearsay testimonials of witnesses, most of whom weren't on the call? That's not even listed in the impeachment.

Lol this isn't going well for the Democrats.

#walkaway
#MAGA

Correa speaking Spanish in the fucking House of Representatives of the United States! Tone deaf as fuck.

WookieMan says

Correa speaking Spanish in the fucking House of Representatives of the United States! Tone deaf as fuck.

Feel pity and loath for these virtue signaling fuckers! Speak English or Die! (S.O.D. - great band of the past). English Motherfucker - do you speak it?!

Biden is clueless. He thinks it's 1983 where he can put on the I fought cornflakes shit and everybody will forget his neoliberal policies and moving far left on abortion and his association with obummer.

Biden is a perennial presidential candidate since the 1980s who never got out of single digits before. I'm not surprised the media hasn't brought up his cheating scandal.

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

RC2006 says

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

Just watched the first minute. That's all it took. She's either on something or about to stroke out.

This is a no win situation for dems, should just back out of this and refocus on another issue to cut the losses. I fully expect Pelosi to double down on the stupidity though because she is lame ducking herself if she doesn't, problem is it's gonna cost the entire party.

RC2006 says

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

Too much botox in face?

Goran_K says

He's the typical limousine liberal of the West/East Coast variety and his polling numbers show it.

I hate to admit it but I actually met this scumbag live. And yes, he's a P.O.S, no different from Jamie Diamond (of JP Morgan) or any other Wall St sleaze out there, pretending to be a moderate of some sorts to gain political advantage.

rd6B says

RC2006 says

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

Too much botox in face?

It's either Parkinson's or Dementia, or perhaps ... a little bit of both.

rd6B says

RC2006 says

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

Too much botox in face?

No it's more than that, its as if she is having a hard time putting thoughts into words very repetitive. I think her mind just cant handle her standing and talking at the same time.

rd6B says

RC2006 says

Did you guys listen to Polosi giving the articles of impeachment she sounds drugged out.

Too much botox in face?

It was bad. She cant put 3 words

www.youtube.com/embed/kvFWw0t2Qoo

She starts out warning Putin that he cant steal our election? I mean... does anyone still buy this shit?

CBOEtrader says

She starts out warning Putin that he cant steal our election?

Putin, she said Vadermer Pluton at :20

And no that video is not altered that's how she sounded, when I heard it live.