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Corona virus (more correctly, Wuhan virus)


               
2020 Jan 24, 12:33pm   213,059 views  3,375 comments

by Heraclitusstudent   follow (8)  

Anyone wants to risk a bet on the eventual number of sick people? Dead people?

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88   RC2006   @   2020 Jan 29, 8:06pm  

Seams to be 2-4% death rate at its epicenter, but what if China is lying and it's more like at 10%? If this virus is worse than they say how long would it take for the truth to come out?

I could see something like this doing a lot more damage in poorer more disorganized counties.
89   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 6:39am  

90   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 6:40am  

91   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 6:40am  

92   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 6:42am  

93   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 7:13am  

94   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 30, 7:14am  

95   Heraclitusstudent   @   2020 Jan 30, 8:38am  

This is not funny.
96   Heraclitusstudent   @   2020 Jan 30, 11:51am  

https://news.yahoo.com/chinas-coronavirus-may-help-boost-162956718.html
"China's coronavirus may help boost U.S. jobs - Ross"

Because we know virus stop at frontiers....
97   Bd6r   @   2020 Jan 30, 12:37pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Because we know virus stop at frontiers....

He is right - funeral house and crematorium job numbers will skyrocket. We should all get a MS in Cinerary Sciences instead of learning to code.
98   RWSGFY   @   2020 Jan 30, 12:48pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
Because we know virus stop at frontiers....


They do if the movement of people across the border is controlled or halted. It used to be a common practice to quarantine the crews and passengers of arriving ships for weeks on end.
99   RWSGFY   @   2020 Jan 30, 1:12pm  

"China has quarantined 60 million people—more than the population of our West Coast. They’ve shut down schools indefinitely. Hong Kong has slashed travel from the mainland. We must immediately stop all travel on commercial aircraft between China & the United States." -- Sen. Tom Cotton.
100   RWSGFY   @   2020 Jan 30, 3:14pm  

DALLAS (AP) — The pilots' union at American Airlines sued on Thursday to stop the carrier from flying to China and told members not to operate flight s there because of the spreading coronavirus outbreak.

The Allied Pilots Association, which represents American’s 15,000 pilots, asked a state district court in Dallas for an injunction to halt the flights. The union cited declarations by international health experts that the virus is a public health emergency.

https://m.sfgate.com/news/texas/article/American-Airlines-pilots-sue-to-halt-flights-to-15017728.php#photo-18940429
101   Booger   @   2020 Jan 30, 3:31pm  

The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
China has quarantined 60 million people


And if all of them die, the world population will still end up greater by the end of this year.
102   Booger   @   2020 Jan 30, 4:05pm  

103   Hircus   @   2020 Jan 30, 7:39pm  

Looks like the daily growth rate keeps tapering off these past few days, although it's still about 25% or so.
104   Heraclitusstudent   @   2020 Jan 30, 10:52pm  

That's the thing: it's not that easy to infect large number of people nowadays.
They panic, stay home, wear masks and other protections, stop traveling. Other measures like closing school cut contagion links.
And the more deaths, the tougher the measures.
105   marcus   @   2020 Jan 30, 10:57pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
And the more deaths, the tougher the measures.


Right. And the death rate doesn't seem high at all, low in fact. What is it 2 point something percent ?

For that reason I wouldn't be surprised to see the number of infected continue to rise exponentially for a while. The very young, very old and people with weakened immune systems need to be protected for a while. If I was in one of those categories, or a caretaker for someone in one of those categories, I would be very careful until this passes.
106   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 31, 7:14am  

107   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 31, 7:17am  

108   zzyzzx   @   2020 Jan 31, 7:31am  

110   Patrick   @   2020 Jan 31, 9:29am  

@HEYYOU try logging out, and then logging in to https://patrick.net instead of https://www.patrick.net
111   Ceffer   @   2020 Jan 31, 10:16am  

It's the "DIE, BOOMFUCK, FUCKING DIE ALREADY" virus.
113   HeadSet   @   2020 Jan 31, 10:28am  

RC2006 says
Look at this creepy shit,

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1223218977570078721


Next year it will be a drone saying "Why are you out with my girlfriend!!"
114   RC2006   @   2020 Jan 31, 10:33am  

HeadSet says
RC2006 says
Look at this creepy shit,

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1223218977570078721


Next year it will be a drone saying "Why are you out with my girlfriend!!"


Next year they will have gun mounts and be shooting people.
115   Al_Sharpton_for_President   @   2020 Jan 31, 11:09am  

P.F. Chang picked a terrible time to launch their Crispy Bat Wings in Spicey Civet Sauce entree.
116   RWSGFY   @   2020 Jan 31, 11:34am  

RC2006 says
HeadSet says
RC2006 says
Look at this creepy shit,

https://twitter.com/globaltimesnews/status/1223218977570078721


Next year it will be a drone saying "Why are you out with my girlfriend!!"


Next year they will have gun mounts and be shooting people.


Dealing with the recoil would be a bitch.
117   HeadSet   @   2020 Jan 31, 12:17pm  

Dealing with the recoil would be a bitch.

Hellfire missiles, then. Its been done.
118   RC2006   @   2020 Jan 31, 12:44pm  

Maybe this would be better for infected people.
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119   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 9:14am  

This whole thing is still a nothingburger compared to the flu. I almost think it's deliberately hyped to stoke fear in the markets and then set up for a sharp rebound after retail sold for cheapies. I expect a rebound this coming week
120   Heraclitusstudent   @   2020 Feb 1, 4:57pm  

mell says
This whole thing is still a nothingburger compared to the flu. I almost think it's deliberately hyped to stoke fear in the markets


If you think about it, they could crush the pandemic by taking radical measures as soon as they found the virus: stop all in/out from China regions without 2 weeks quarantine, close schools and stop economic activities without full protection gears. This would have avoided contamination outside the region and saved lives. But the rub is a large hit to economic activities due to added frictions. Which is why they resisted radical measures initially.

This is starting to happen: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-infecting-global-economy-220135978.html
Economic activities are put on old, stores are closed, people stay home. This hurts the economy and will hurt profit.
121   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 5:49pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
mell says
This whole thing is still a nothingburger compared to the flu. I almost think it's deliberately hyped to stoke fear in the markets


If you think about it, they could crush the pandemic by taking radical measures as soon as they found the virus: stop all in/out from China regions without 2 weeks quarantine, close schools and stop economic activities without full protection gears. This would have avoided contamination outside the region and saved lives. But the rub is a large hit to economic activities due to added frictions. Which is why they resisted radical measures initially.

This is starting to happen: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/coronavirus-infecting-global-economy-220135978.html
Economic activities are put on old, stores are closed, people stay home. This hurts the economy and will hurt profit.


Agreed. I think the drastic measures are right, even if it is just to prevent damage to your own economy. An dit seems to be working with only 132 confirmed cases worldwide outside of China. Still people will rush and buy their iphones when the stores open again with even longer lines. We had situations like this - for various reasons - many times before and it hardly made a dent, compared to a real organic recession or finanicial crisis.
122   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 6:21pm  

Growth rate currently roughly at 15%-20% if you believe official numbers. Pretty much all cases in China.
123   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   @   2020 Feb 1, 6:57pm  

mell says
only 132 confirmed cases worldwide outside of China.


That was an hour ago. Now it's up to 164.
124   Heraclitusstudent   @   2020 Feb 1, 8:38pm  

14380 cases, 304 deaths in China.
125   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 8:47pm  

just_dregalicious says
mell says
only 132 confirmed cases worldwide outside of China.


That was an hour ago. Now it's up to 164.


I think it was from even earlier. The rest of the world will soon have China completely isolated. It's tougher for the bordering countries though.
126   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 8:51pm  

Also some are probably recovering by now so you can't just keep counting up. ROW still seems fine but not China. Also surprising Hong Kong has been largely spared and theres no reports of health worker transmissions (outside China).
127   mell   @   2020 Feb 1, 9:00pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
14380 cases, 304 deaths in China.


Looks like still 20%-25% steady growth then.

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