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Automan Empire says

Are you in favor of making and enforcing "anti-pedophilia" laws with the same standards and punishments whether the people involved are gay or straight?

Hell to the yes!

I don't care if some man who rapes little boys claims not to be a homosexual, he still needs to be castrated.

rd6B says

HeadSet says

other steps to reduce government interference

he should reduce government interference by meaningfully cutting spending, which will be more efficient reduction of gov't controls

Agree. Hopefully, that will be on the agenda.

marcus says

You have to know I'm not with the far left sjws and pc crowd when they go over the top. But you are seriously reaching when you fantasize that sjws are going to be backing tolerance of pedophiles. Sure the term exists among some mental health people that believe in decreasing the stigma (maybe reflecting their own sympathy). You're not going to hear wide sjw backing pedophile tolerance anytime soon.

Again, not that I back most sjw nonsense these days. It's just that this is a pure and total political fantasy on your part. Dream on.

Marcus, do you realize this line of reasoning doesn't really work well for you given what has ultimately turned out about almost everything you've opined on?

Who do you think Pedos are more aligned to?

When was the last time we heard about reducing stigma of sexuality and what ended up ultimately happening? Why do you think the end goal is different here?

NoCoupForYou says

When was the last time we heard about reducing stigma of sexuality and what ended up ultimately happening? Why do you think the end goal is different here?

Goal ? The word goal implies an organized effort.

By your absurd reasoning there could be no such thing as true progress, becasue anything done in the name of progress could be a mistake and if that occurred it would definitely lead to infinite mistakes that are of course of greater and greater magnitude. How does it work with sexuality ? Because society has largely been convinced that homosexuality is okay, or at least that it should be tolerated, (which you have determined was a mistake), that therefore taboos against necrophelia, pedophilia, and Zoophilia are all inevitably be next ?

One social cultural norm changes and therefore everything is up for grabs ? (you wish - becasue it would feed more dishonest arguments demonizing the left !)

Remember Iwog and his argument about the legal age of consent ? I would argue that Iwog was not arguing for pedophilia. I disagreed with him, about sixteen year olds having legal freedom to make such decisions, but on the other hand, I don't think every mature man that has ever found a sixteen year old girl sexually attractive is a pedophile.

Why do I bring this up ? Because not only do I know that there is not going to be a movement of acceptance of pedophilia, I'm quite sure that even the laws of consent are very unlikely to be challenged, and in my opinion, where they would be most likely to be challenged would be in conservative states.

On top of state laws relating to age of consent, there are federal laws protecting teens from predators. None of these are going to be challenged in the slightest, even if you can find three people on the internet that think they should be. Why ? For a bunch of reasons, but the biggest is that so many people are parents or can relate to the concerns of parents. This is a democracy.

How can you argue that tolerating behavior between consenting adults is a slippery slope towards tolerance of adults preying on young people whose minds aren't even fully developed yet ?

I doubt you even see the degree to which your argument here is an argument against democracy. This is consistent with the take a lot of Americans have on Trump cucks. Actually I know that as afraid of democracy as you might be, you know there is no such movement. It's just more of your lies in an effort to paint the good guys as being the actual bad guys.

You do this shit constantly.

marcus says

You do this shit constantly.

I sure do.

When was the last time you were fundamentally right about something?

That's not a personal attack, it's pointing out the value of your predictions/arguments.

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That's kind of a childish reaction to being wrong.

When right wing extremist assholes who find lying easier than breathing insist I'm always wrong, it's as close as possible to confirmation that I'm right as you can get.

TO you, my thinking the president deserved to be impeached or that he deserved to be investigated makes me somehow wrong ? I never predicted he would be removed from office.

I did predict he wouldn't be elected. And he did lose the popular vote, for what that's worth. But yes, I had no idea there were as many people that were that clueless and so totally devoid of the kind of virtues that would have made voting for Donald Trump impossible.

marcus says

Kind of a childish reaction to being wrong.

Not really.

Let me go back to my question you didn't answer:

NoCoupForYou says

Who do you think Pedos are more aligned to?

NoCoupForYou says

NoCoupForYou says

Who do you think Pedos are more aligned to?

It's a stupid question. I don't believe the people you imagine exist actually do exist.

You think there are people out there that want sexually abusing children to be an accepted or tolerated practice ? If such people do exist, I would say that just lobbying for that should get them on some list of identified sex criminals.

Perhaps you're thinking of people that have sexually abused a child, and regret it and know it's wrong, but "want to be understood" or that it wasn't their fault becasue they couldn't help it. So they want less stigma. Sure they might try to get understanding from the kind of psychologists (that they need to be talking to) that are likely democrats, but they won't get it from the public at large. This is deeply ingrained primal right versus wrong thing. The consequences and the stigma obviously need to be harsh and negative, to help such people control their sick impulses.

Over 95% of democrats are going to be on the same page about this. Zero tolerance. It's another one of your, "lets take this one sicko whacko I read about on the internet," and say that it's where democrats are headed.

You still dodged my question.

Are Pedos voting GOP or Democrat?

There are people who wanted to make it a forced subject in CA schools. Yes those people do exist, they have pride parades too.

Btw Epstein was big proponent of decriminalizing pedophilia, he frequently stated that it’s normal in other cultures. Very clear example yet again.

marcus says

You think there are people out there that want sexually abusing children to be an accepted or tolerated practice ? If such people do exist, I would say that just lobbying for that should get them on some list of identified sex criminals.

https://notthebee.com/article/washington-schoolboard-president-owns-an-all-ages-sex-toy-shop---how-is-this-ok