You don't think that the flop had anything to do with it , do you?
I don't think so, not directly anyway. From what I could gather, he had a previous wife who took a lot of money in the divorce. Maybe he was afraid of going through the same thing again. But this is pure speculation.
he had a previous wife who took a lot of money in the divorce. Maybe he was afraid of going through the same thing again. But this is pure speculation.
This is perhaps true, however, a DA's office doesn't prosecute based upon a speculative theory because otherwise, it would be swamped with more cases than hours in the year.
It's highly feasible that she had a large life insurance on her and thus, given a suspicious accident, they would have enough of a probable motive to prosecute and gain a conviction, given the fact that jurors can be swayed by spousal abuse stories with the payout-in-the-end, as the coup de grace.
California fertility doctor, Eric Scott Sills, convicted in killing of wife seven years after claiming she 'fell down stairs' following an argument when she posted a nude photo of herself online when she lost a bet over Donald Trump's 2016 election chances.
Dr. Eric Scott Sills, 58, was arrested in April 2019 over the 2016 killing, amid tension with his late wife Susann Sills
Susann, 45, was found at the foot of the stairs in what prosecutors Tuesday labeled 'a staged accident' at their San Clemente home on November 16, 2016
He now faces a sentence of up to 15 years to life, after sticking to the story he provided to local cops in a frantic 911 call to cops the morning of the murder
Well that's quite the range. Sad overall. Feel bad for the kids. If they stay local it will be a burden unfortunately. I don't know if it's better to know the truth or believe the lie in this case. But if 12 people agreed to convict then it was the right decision and enough evidence.
Patrick, get ready for the Dateline or whatever murder mystery show phone call. It's coming. Sad this happened over silly banter and a guy couldn't control his anger. I don't recall if I interacted directly often with TD, but read enough of her comments to know she was a cool, thoughtful person in an online realm of men. It was bold.
Did a detective contact anyone else with suspicious questioning. One called me asking what did I mean by comments and if I had been in California on or around that time. Some lefty from this site sent him my way. Asking about what we talk about on Patnet. I just kept saying how we were all happy Trump won. Knowing how Left bent LEOs are the days it was probably burning his ass that I wasn't the guy. The guy was so intimidating that I waited for a conviction before posting this.
Never contacted, and I would not say anything to them anyway. Never yammer yourself into a legal tar baby, they are not your friends.
A lot of people in the DC Lubyanka probably wished they had turned those FBI agents away at the door. They are only looking for sacrificial victims to their false flag. I would presume they are all Gestapo criminals until proven otherwise, and even then, stay STFU.
FBI are unprivileged enemy combatants representing the corrupt foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC, and they hold no Constitutional jurisdiction or extradition rights over state residents. California has no jurisdiction, either, until it can prove decisively that it has rectified its election fraud situation, has expunged and imprisoned the illegal appointees, and is back to holding free and fair elections throughout the state
Patrick, get ready for the Dateline or whatever murder mystery show phone call.
I've already had two reporters from the toxic mainstream corporate press try to contact me. I detest them for their continuous lies, so I'm not going to help them.
They are lying again already, with several stories lying that she posted her tits on patrick.net because the "lost a bet" about Trump winning the Republican nomination in 2016. The truth is the opposite - she posted her tits as a kind of celebration that Trump got the nomination.
They won't print anything that shows that Susan Sills supported Trump, because they are so completely without integrity.
Did a detective contact anyone else with suspicious questioning.
Yes, a detective called me with a lot of questions about 5 years ago. He was polite enough, but said that if I didn't answer his questions he was going to get a subpoena. I was happy to help him anyway, because it really looked like she was murdered.
Not that there was much I could do to help him, but explain about this site and Susan's role on it.
she was a cool, thoughtful person in an online realm of men. It was bold.
Absolutely!
Strangely, the Orange County DA asked me twice whether I really knew that patrick.net is mostly men, making me admit that I don't really know that for sure, since all I have for users is email addresses. Why would she think it isn't mostly men? Just from the way we talk, user names, and the fact that people were quite interested in seeing her breasts it seems pretty obvious to me.
Now that I think about it, when I had Google Analytics long ago, it told me the site was well over 75% men.
Not that there was much I could do to help him, but explain about this site and Susan's role on it.
I'm just sad. It moved me when she passed. For once I'm not happy about being right. I guess we learned that some people take our bull shit seriously in their world. I like shooting the shit, but didn't see this coming. I just hope all the kids do well. They didn't go to bed thinking this would be their life. It sucks.
I recall her stating that she had two kids. Her husband also had two additional Adult children from a previous marriage per the daily mail article linked above.
It really is a sad story. Hard to believe a guy could be so cruel, calculating and reckless.
He destroyed her, took his kids mother away, destroyed his career and now is going to prison. For what? Jealousy? TDS?
It just is crazy how reckless and vindictive some people can be.
It is also crazy that Patnet played a role in her murder. She was a Trump supporter which is interesting. Does anyone recall her reasons for supporting Trump?
As for her and the murderer, I suspect that they had had more trouble than just a silly/stupid online post. It’s hard to believe it was a happy marriage considering how it ended.
But now this little forum is famous for hosting a murder victims too! If there weren’t feds watching the site before 2016, there certainly are now. I have my suspicions about a few posters here and there. And there are probably plenty of watchers that never post, they just lurk.
Did anyone read about the kid who leaked all this classified documents “discord leaks?” It is amazing the stuff that goes on online and how stupid people are online. What was that kid thinking? Of course he is going to get caught!!!
When the NWO globalists finally take over completely this site will be Shut down. They can’t allow a place where people speak their minds to exist. In the new world order only approved speech is free speech. All unapproved speech is insurrection in their totalitarian fake democracy.
God bless those children, and protect them from the evils of this world as much as possible. It is a reminder that every day is precious, we all will pass on someday.
I recall her stating that she had two kids. Her husband also had two additional Adult children from a previous marriage per the daily mail article linked above.
She did have 2 kids who were twins with Dr Sills, and she also had two step children who were the children of Dr Sills.
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"She was an alumna of George Mason University and was awarded an MBA (International Studies) from University of Miami in 2000. She is survived by her husband, Dr. E Scott Sills and their twins, Mary-Katherine Estelle Sills and Eric Scott Sills II"
It really is a sad story. Hard to believe a guy could be so cruel, calculating and reckless.
It is and it isn't about a guy being cruel. Some people just have that in them. I couldn't physically harm another person myself. When I hurt myself and am in pain I puke. Trauma is disgusting and I couldn't do it to someone else unless it involved an intruder or someone trying to physically hurt my family. My wife can piss me off till my heart is about to explode, but I ain't laying a hand on her in anger.
she posted her tits as a kind of celebration that Trump got the nomination.
Shit! I didn’t realize that. So this is the site that she posted her tits on?
Yup. I believe multiple people have been contacted by authorities, obviously including Patrick. I know some of my comments were quoted in news articles. It's fucked up and sad.
This is the second site/forum I belong to that has had a member either murder or be murdered. That being said, both PatNet and the other site have been inspirational.
RIP Turtledove. I'm glad justice has finally been done.
now that case is settled, which police department was it in Patrick? i’ll go file a PRR for the case information. this story saddens me too, she was a cool member here. and then one day out of nowhere post about her being dead was chilling.
typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.
Towns/cities don't have courts. Always county, state or federal. It was Orange County for sure if you want to dig in. You're probably gonna have to FOIA it though. Police really have no role outside of initial on site investigation. Basically witness to what happened. Patrick's testimony would be county level.
typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.
Towns/cities don't have courts. Always county, state or federal. It was Orange County for sure if you want to dig in. You're probably gonna have to FOIA it though. Police really have no role outside of initial on site investigation. Basically witness to what happened. Patrick's testimony would be county level.
i want to read the police reports. but yeah for testimony is another records request.
i want to read the police reports. but yeah for testimony is another records request.
Court reports of testimony will be better. Police reported it was an accident. They didn't press charges literally until they read comments here and seemingly admitted as much to the media. So what you'd get from local police is gonna be vanilla unless for some reason they redacted their records.
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How do you know her name?
I don't think so, not directly anyway. From what I could gather, he had a previous wife who took a lot of money in the divorce. Maybe he was afraid of going through the same thing again. But this is pure speculation.
This is perhaps true, however, a DA's office doesn't prosecute based upon a speculative theory because otherwise, it would be swamped with more cases than hours in the year.
It's highly feasible that she had a large life insurance on her and thus, given a suspicious accident, they would have enough of a probable motive to prosecute and gain a conviction, given the fact that jurors can be swayed by spousal abuse stories with the payout-in-the-end, as the coup de grace.
Dr Eric Sills is accused of murder Susan Sills :-(
Yeah, I remember Turtledove (Susan) and miss her also on Pat.net
.https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/latimes/name/susann-sills-obituary?id=8815015
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Dr. Eric Scott Sills, 58, was arrested in April 2019 over the 2016 killing, amid tension with his late wife Susann Sills
Susann, 45, was found at the foot of the stairs in what prosecutors Tuesday labeled 'a staged accident' at their San Clemente home on November 16, 2016
He now faces a sentence of up to 15 years to life, after sticking to the story he provided to local cops in a frantic 911 call to cops the morning of the murder
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-12884283/California-fertility-doctor-convicted-wife-murder.html
Well that's quite the range. Sad overall. Feel bad for the kids. If they stay local it will be a burden unfortunately. I don't know if it's better to know the truth or believe the lie in this case. But if 12 people agreed to convict then it was the right decision and enough evidence.
Patrick, get ready for the Dateline or whatever murder mystery show phone call. It's coming. Sad this happened over silly banter and a guy couldn't control his anger. I don't recall if I interacted directly often with TD, but read enough of her comments to know she was a cool, thoughtful person in an online realm of men. It was bold.
The argument part is new news to me.
A lot of people in the DC Lubyanka probably wished they had turned those FBI agents away at the door. They are only looking for sacrificial victims to their false flag. I would presume they are all Gestapo criminals until proven otherwise, and even then, stay STFU.
FBI are unprivileged enemy combatants representing the corrupt foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC, and they hold no Constitutional jurisdiction or extradition rights over state residents. California has no jurisdiction, either, until it can prove decisively that it has rectified its election fraud situation, has expunged and imprisoned the illegal appointees, and is back to holding free and fair elections throughout the state
I've already had two reporters from the toxic mainstream corporate press try to contact me. I detest them for their continuous lies, so I'm not going to help them.
They are lying again already, with several stories lying that she posted her tits on patrick.net because the "lost a bet" about Trump winning the Republican nomination in 2016. The truth is the opposite - she posted her tits as a kind of celebration that Trump got the nomination.
They won't print anything that shows that Susan Sills supported Trump, because they are so completely without integrity.
Yes, a detective called me with a lot of questions about 5 years ago. He was polite enough, but said that if I didn't answer his questions he was going to get a subpoena. I was happy to help him anyway, because it really looked like she was murdered.
Not that there was much I could do to help him, but explain about this site and Susan's role on it.
Absolutely!
Strangely, the Orange County DA asked me twice whether I really knew that patrick.net is mostly men, making me admit that I don't really know that for sure, since all I have for users is email addresses. Why would she think it isn't mostly men? Just from the way we talk, user names, and the fact that people were quite interested in seeing her breasts it seems pretty obvious to me.
Now that I think about it, when I had Google Analytics long ago, it told me the site was well over 75% men.
I thought it would be close to 98%.
I'm just sad. It moved me when she passed. For once I'm not happy about being right. I guess we learned that some people take our bull shit seriously in their world. I like shooting the shit, but didn't see this coming. I just hope all the kids do well. They didn't go to bed thinking this would be their life. It sucks.
It took a while for them to build the case and make the arrest, then another few years for the trial.
Wheels of justice move slowly, so much for the idea of a speedy trial. Not to mention the appeals process.
I agree with WookieMan, feel bad for the family, especially the kids. No way you have a normal childhood with this playing out in the background.
She did not have kids. She was the step mother of Dr Sills' two children. But I agree that this still would have an impact on thim.
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Dan was the outlier
It really is a sad story. Hard to believe a guy could be so cruel, calculating and reckless.
He destroyed her, took his kids mother away, destroyed his career and now is going to prison. For what? Jealousy? TDS?
It just is crazy how reckless and vindictive some people can be.
It is also crazy that Patnet played a role in her murder. She was a Trump supporter which is interesting. Does anyone recall her reasons for supporting Trump?
As for her and the murderer, I suspect that they had had more trouble than just a silly/stupid online post. It’s hard to believe it was a happy marriage considering how it ended.
But now this little forum is famous for hosting a murder victims too! If there weren’t feds watching the site before 2016, there certainly are now. I have my suspicions about a few posters here and there. And there are probably plenty of watchers that never post, they just lurk.
Did anyone read about the kid who leaked all this classified documents “discord leaks?” It is amazing the stuff that goes on online and how stupid people are online. What was that kid thinking? Of course he is going to get caught!!!
When the NWO globalists finally take over completely this site will be Shut down. They can’t allow a place where people speak their minds to exist. In the new world order only approved speech is free speech. All unapproved speech is insurrection in their totalitarian fake democracy.
God bless those children, and protect them from the evils of this world as much as possible. It is a reminder that every day is precious, we all will pass on someday.
Good point. I checked https://www.legacy.com/us/obituaries/latimes/name/susann-sills-obituary?id=8815015
She did have 2 kids who were twins with Dr Sills, and she also had two step children who were the children of Dr Sills.
^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^
"She was an alumna of George Mason University and was awarded an MBA (International Studies) from University of Miami in 2000. She is survived by her husband, Dr. E Scott Sills and their twins, Mary-Katherine Estelle Sills and Eric Scott Sills II"
It is and it isn't about a guy being cruel. Some people just have that in them. I couldn't physically harm another person myself. When I hurt myself and am in pain I puke. Trauma is disgusting and I couldn't do it to someone else unless it involved an intruder or someone trying to physically hurt my family. My wife can piss me off till my heart is about to explode, but I ain't laying a hand on her in anger.
Shit! I didn’t realize that. So this is the site that she posted her tits on?
I believe it was cruel because it was premeditated.
Yup. I believe multiple people have been contacted by authorities, obviously including Patrick. I know some of my comments were quoted in news articles. It's fucked up and sad.
RIP Turtledove. I'm glad justice has finally been done.
Wow, what was the other one?
I would be interested in getting a copy of my testimony. Maybe you can just post it here.
this one? https://www.ocso.com/en-us/
typically it’s police that investigates within city limits, county is just jail. but i can be wrong. i’ll call records see what i find out.
https://orangecountyda.org/
Turnabout is fair play. Muh Principled Conservatism got us to maximum wokeness.
Any student complaining about a Rainbow Flag has probably gotten the same treatment 1000x already, but would never make the Press
Towns/cities don't have courts. Always county, state or federal. It was Orange County for sure if you want to dig in. You're probably gonna have to FOIA it though. Police really have no role outside of initial on site investigation. Basically witness to what happened. Patrick's testimony would be county level.
i want to read the police reports. but yeah for testimony is another records request.
Court reports of testimony will be better. Police reported it was an accident. They didn't press charges literally until they read comments here and seemingly admitted as much to the media. So what you'd get from local police is gonna be vanilla unless for some reason they redacted their records.
She married a freakish psychopathic looking guy, just say'in.
He's a doctor! though!
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