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Eric Holder
2020 Feb 29, 10:47pm
Eric Holder
2020 Feb 29, 10:47pm
Heraclitusstudent says
More often. Way, waaay more often. Use a hand sanitizer if more practical.
wash your hands 4 times a day.
More often. Way, waaay more often. Use a hand sanitizer if more practical.
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just_passing_through
2020 Feb 29, 10:54pm
just_passing_through
2020 Feb 29, 10:54pm
I already do all of that and am a hand washing maniac. Except for the bars.
Eating pizza at lunch yesterday. Some greasy haired lady next to me just coughs all over her table. No attempt to cover it.
Happened several times this afternoon when I made a quick trip to the local grocery.
People here in California are nasty.
Eating pizza at lunch yesterday. Some greasy haired lady next to me just coughs all over her table. No attempt to cover it.
Happened several times this afternoon when I made a quick trip to the local grocery.
People here in California are nasty.
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WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 5:20am
WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 5:20am
just_dregalicious says
I don't get people that cough and sneeze like ass hoes. I'm the guy that will pull my shirt up over my mouth and still covers with my hand holding the shirt. Common decency is dead I guess.
Hstudent, I'm going to completely ignore you and go a on a 10 day cruise to the Caribbean. Not a joke. Should be interesting, though sanitation is usually pretty solid on any boat I've been on. I'm guessing the hand sanitizing devices will be quadrupled from the previous cruises I've been on though.
Eating pizza at lunch yesterday. Some greasy haired lady next to me just coughs all over her table. No attempt to cover it.
I don't get people that cough and sneeze like ass hoes. I'm the guy that will pull my shirt up over my mouth and still covers with my hand holding the shirt. Common decency is dead I guess.
Hstudent, I'm going to completely ignore you and go a on a 10 day cruise to the Caribbean. Not a joke. Should be interesting, though sanitation is usually pretty solid on any boat I've been on. I'm guessing the hand sanitizing devices will be quadrupled from the previous cruises I've been on though.
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MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Mar 1, 5:49am
MisdemeanorRebel
2020 Mar 1, 5:49am
If you wash your hands for 30+ seconds, upteen times a day, kiss your natural lipid/skin oil protection barrier bye-bye.
Prepare to get dry hands that cut easily or have microabrasions, allowing more viruses to enter your bloodstream.
Prepare to get dry hands that cut easily or have microabrasions, allowing more viruses to enter your bloodstream.
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WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 6:03am
WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 6:03am
NoCoupForYou says
I wash my hands, but I'm not a stickler on it. Usually every #1 or 2 break. I'm of the mindset that I'll get sick either way. Hence why I don't care much about Corona virus. I understand I could potentially spread it to someone else, so I do have concern there. But what are you going to do? We're all meeting the same ending. Enjoy life. Everyone here has likely killed someone indirectly and they don't even know it (not on purpose of course). So it seems senseless to get overly worked up about it.
If you wash your hands for 30+ seconds, upteen times a day, kiss your natural lipid/skin oil protection barrier bye-bye.
Prepare to get dry hands that cut easily or have microabrasions, allowing more viruses to enter your bloodstream.
I wash my hands, but I'm not a stickler on it. Usually every #1 or 2 break. I'm of the mindset that I'll get sick either way. Hence why I don't care much about Corona virus. I understand I could potentially spread it to someone else, so I do have concern there. But what are you going to do? We're all meeting the same ending. Enjoy life. Everyone here has likely killed someone indirectly and they don't even know it (not on purpose of course). So it seems senseless to get overly worked up about it.
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theoakman
2020 Mar 1, 6:33am
When I have to teach Chemistry, I have to wash my hands approximately 15 times a day. I buy pure shea butter in bulk. I usually have to put that along with moisturizer on my hands each time I wash to prevent my skin from cracking all over in the winter. I used to use vaseline but the shea butter has a higher melting point so it's not super greasy.
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HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 7:20am
HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 7:20am
Eric Holder says
Hand sanitizer is useless against viruses, and pretty much anything else. If someone invented a bleach based hand sanitizer gel, that would be different.
Heraclitusstudent sayswash your hands 4 times a day.
More often. Way, waaay more often. Use a hand sanitizer if more practical.
Hand sanitizer is useless against viruses, and pretty much anything else. If someone invented a bleach based hand sanitizer gel, that would be different.
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Y
2020 Mar 1, 7:27am
Y
2020 Mar 1, 7:27am
boiling water and shea butter sounds like the ticket...
theoakman says
theoakman says
I buy pure shea butter in bulkHeadSet says
Hand sanitizer is useless
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RWSGFY
2020 Mar 1, 8:23am
RWSGFY
2020 Mar 1, 8:23am
HeadSet says
R U sure about that?
'Alcohol-based hand sanitizers are clearly a very useful and important method to prevent most bacterial and viral infections, with rare exceptions," says Aaron E. Glatt, MD, executive vice president of Mercy Medical Center, Rockville Centre, Long Island, N.Y. He is a spokesman for the Infectious Diseases Society of America.
Hand sanitizers won't work, Glatt says, against the infection caused by C. difficile, a bacterium that can lead to life-threatening inflammation in the colon.
Hand sanitizer is useless against viruses, and pretty much anything else.
R U sure about that?
'Alcohol-based hand sanitizers are clearly a very useful and important method to prevent most bacterial and viral infections, with rare exceptions," says Aaron E. Glatt, MD, executive vice president of Mercy Medical Center, Rockville Centre, Long Island, N.Y. He is a spokesman for the Infectious Diseases Society of America.
Hand sanitizers won't work, Glatt says, against the infection caused by C. difficile, a bacterium that can lead to life-threatening inflammation in the colon.
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just_passing_through
2020 Mar 1, 10:14am
just_passing_through
2020 Mar 1, 10:14am
NoCoupForYou says
True but if you have naturally oily skin not so much. Also use Dawn dish soap. Now lately, the past year I've been tinkering with a new marine fish tank. Well, I've been using vinegar and citric acid to clean stuff. Not to mention constantly mixing salt (I have a brutal stocking quarantine) I have instant old man hands. I do wear gloves most of the time though.
If you wash your hands for 30+ seconds, upteen times a day, kiss your natural lipid/skin oil protection barrier bye-bye.
True but if you have naturally oily skin not so much. Also use Dawn dish soap. Now lately, the past year I've been tinkering with a new marine fish tank. Well, I've been using vinegar and citric acid to clean stuff. Not to mention constantly mixing salt (I have a brutal stocking quarantine) I have instant old man hands. I do wear gloves most of the time though.
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HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 10:53am
HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 10:53am
The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
Yes, and from the same Web MD article where it looks like you got your quote:
In the study, published in the American Journal of Infection Control, CDC researchers looked at the use of hand sanitizers by the staff in 91 long-term care facilities. In those where the staff were equally or more likely to use the hand sanitizers over soap and water for routine hand hygiene, the chance of an outbreak was nearly six times greater.
The problem is, Purell makes good money of the sale of this product. No idea why they do not make a bleach based product.
HeadSet saysHand sanitizer is useless against viruses, and pretty much anything else.
R U sure about that?
'Alcohol-based hand sanitizers are clearly a very useful and important method to prevent most bacterial and viral infections, with rare exceptions," says Aaron E. Glatt, MD, executive vice president of Mercy Medical Center, Rockville Centre, Long Island, N.Y. He is a spokesman for the Infectious Diseases Society of America.
Hand sanitizers won't work, Glatt says, against the infection caused by C. difficile, a bacterium that can lead to life-threatening inflammation in the colon.
Yes, and from the same Web MD article where it looks like you got your quote:
In the study, published in the American Journal of Infection Control, CDC researchers looked at the use of hand sanitizers by the staff in 91 long-term care facilities. In those where the staff were equally or more likely to use the hand sanitizers over soap and water for routine hand hygiene, the chance of an outbreak was nearly six times greater.
The problem is, Purell makes good money of the sale of this product. No idea why they do not make a bleach based product.
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Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 11:24am
Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 11:24am
WookieMan says
Took me a long time to get the double meaning in "ass hoe" after the "China is ass hoe" meme came out.
There's the funny Chinese accent interpretation, but there is also the "anal whore" interpretation.
Or am I overthinking it?
ass hoes
Took me a long time to get the double meaning in "ass hoe" after the "China is ass hoe" meme came out.
There's the funny Chinese accent interpretation, but there is also the "anal whore" interpretation.
Or am I overthinking it?
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mell
2020 Mar 1, 11:28am
Of course water wins out to hand sanitizer since it flushes away microbes actively. HS is a clutch at best.
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Eric Holder
2020 Mar 1, 1:38pm
Eric Holder
2020 Mar 1, 1:38pm
HeadSet says
Yes, it's from the WebMD (it's a decent source) and they say that the hospital study you refer to is "one study for one virus" while the MD's opinion from the same article is a more broad statement.
There are chloride-based hand sanitizers on the market, BTW. Not exactly bleach, but somewhere in that zipcode.
Yes, and from the same Web MD article where it looks like you got your quote:
In the study, published in the American Journal of Infection Control, CDC researchers looked at the use of hand sanitizers by the staff in 91 long-term care facilities. In those where the staff were equally or more likely to use the hand sanitizers over soap and water for routine hand hygiene, the chance of an outbreak was nearly six times greater.
The problem is, Purell makes good money of the sale of this product. No idea why they do not make a bleach based product.
Yes, it's from the WebMD (it's a decent source) and they say that the hospital study you refer to is "one study for one virus" while the MD's opinion from the same article is a more broad statement.
There are chloride-based hand sanitizers on the market, BTW. Not exactly bleach, but somewhere in that zipcode.
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Eric Holder
2020 Mar 1, 3:14pm
Eric Holder
2020 Mar 1, 3:14pm
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
This goes w/o saying. The hand washing/hand sanitizer use debate is about what to do on top of it.
Carry a machine pistol and whip that sucker out and blast away at anyone who comes near you.
Keep shooting for a year.
Virus fixed.
This goes w/o saying. The hand washing/hand sanitizer use debate is about what to do on top of it.
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WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 3:20pm
WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 3:20pm
Patrick says
Maybe? I thought it was the mocking of the Chinese english speaking accent as you mention. For some reason I never thought about the anal whore angle, but that does make sense, lol.
There's the funny Chinese accent interpretation, but there is also the "anal whore" interpretation.
Or am I overthinking it?
Maybe? I thought it was the mocking of the Chinese english speaking accent as you mention. For some reason I never thought about the anal whore angle, but that does make sense, lol.
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Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 3:49pm
Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 3:49pm
APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostikovitch says
Let's be responsible about this. You should first wipe down the machine pistol with a solution of at least 60% alcohol, and only then blast away.
And wash your hands afterwards as well.
Carry a machine pistol and whip that sucker out and blast away at anyone who comes near you.
Let's be responsible about this. You should first wipe down the machine pistol with a solution of at least 60% alcohol, and only then blast away.
And wash your hands afterwards as well.
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Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 3:52pm
Patrick
2020 Mar 1, 3:52pm
BTW, I was just reading that zinc lozenges are at least somewhat effective in reducing the likelihood of catching a cold and probably help with warding off with other viruses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold
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RWSGFY
2020 Mar 1, 4:27pm
RWSGFY
2020 Mar 1, 4:27pm
Patrick says
Yes, it definitely works for me.
BTW, I was just reading that zinc lozenges are at least somewhat effective in reducing the likelihood of catching a cold and probably help with warding off with other viruses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold
Yes, it definitely works for me.
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WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 5:29pm
WookieMan
2020 Mar 1, 5:29pm
The_Weeping_Ayatollah says
It helps for sure. My issue (and maybe other can attest to this) is that it give me the runs. Could be from the sickness I suppose, but I've always noticed #2 going south when I intentionally take zinc.
I've been pounding vitamin D since the start of fall. I've had the healthiest winter of my life, including childhood. I usually get the seasonal depression type shit living in the shit hole that is IL and it was suggested I crank it up. I personally think it's helped big time with that, but also immune system. I haven't even had a runny nose this winter (knock on wood).
Patrick saysBTW, I was just reading that zinc lozenges are at least somewhat effective in reducing the likelihood of catching a cold and probably help with warding off with other viruses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold
Yes, it definitely works for me.
It helps for sure. My issue (and maybe other can attest to this) is that it give me the runs. Could be from the sickness I suppose, but I've always noticed #2 going south when I intentionally take zinc.
I've been pounding vitamin D since the start of fall. I've had the healthiest winter of my life, including childhood. I usually get the seasonal depression type shit living in the shit hole that is IL and it was suggested I crank it up. I personally think it's helped big time with that, but also immune system. I haven't even had a runny nose this winter (knock on wood).
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HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 8:48pm
HeadSet
2020 Mar 1, 8:48pm
I've been pounding vitamin D
That is the D you have been pounding? (Sorry, could not resist that setup).
That is the D you have been pounding? (Sorry, could not resist that setup).
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Mar 1, 8:52pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2020 Mar 1, 8:52pm
HEYYOU says
as well as racial guilt, would totally recommend it to the left.
Suicide is an option to avoid all illnesses.
as well as racial guilt, would totally recommend it to the left.
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Y
2020 Mar 1, 9:30pm
Y
2020 Mar 1, 9:30pm
I zinc I weel try zat...
Patrick says
Patrick says
BTW, I was just reading that zinc lozenges are at least somewhat effective in reducing the likelihood of catching a cold and probably help with warding off with other viruses.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zinc_and_the_common_cold
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just_passing_through
2020 Mar 1, 10:22pm
just_passing_through
2020 Mar 1, 10:22pm
Tenpoundbass says
Initial formulations were nasal sprays. I think they quit selling them because people lost their smell? Anecdotal but my dad mysteriously lost his after using them and it never came back.
They say Zinc will knock the cold and flu down.
Initial formulations were nasal sprays. I think they quit selling them because people lost their smell? Anecdotal but my dad mysteriously lost his after using them and it never came back.
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WookieMan
2020 Mar 2, 11:58am
WookieMan
2020 Mar 2, 11:58am
HeadSet says
Pounding harder than ever. Pound that D into the V. lol.
Never resist the setup either. Just do it. My veins are filled with stone cold vitamin D. I can handle it.
I've been pounding vitamin D
That is the D you have been pounding? (Sorry, could not resist that setup).
Pounding harder than ever. Pound that D into the V. lol.
Never resist the setup either. Just do it. My veins are filled with stone cold vitamin D. I can handle it.
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Heraclitusstudent
2020 Mar 2, 12:03pm
Heraclitusstudent
2020 Mar 2, 12:03pm
Patrick says
And please.... do disinfect your phones.
No point washing your hands if you're gonna drag your fingers in that pestilent sewage on your screen.
And wash your hands afterwards as well.
And please.... do disinfect your phones.
No point washing your hands if you're gonna drag your fingers in that pestilent sewage on your screen.
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mell
2020 Mar 2, 12:05pm
Heraclitusstudent says
Right - phones are laden with microbes, I usually am sloppy like most but I recently started wiping it a few times a day with disinfectant wipes or soap til the situation calms down.
Patrick saysAnd wash your hands afterwards as well.
And please.... do disinfect your phones.
No point washing your hands if you're gonna drag your fingers in that pestilent sewage on your screen.
Right - phones are laden with microbes, I usually am sloppy like most but I recently started wiping it a few times a day with disinfectant wipes or soap til the situation calms down.
This means the virus is propagating quickly.
So there is only 1 way to beat the pandemic: reduce this number "3" to less than 1 on average. Do that at the country level. And sustain this for a long time. Then the number of infected people will go down, until it can be fully controlled.
What that means in practice is obvious:
1 - avoid crowds or gatherings, avoid bars and cafes, work from home if possible. If you have a simple cold, do stay home. Skype your mom instead of visiting her. etc.... Basically stay at home and become a monk.
2 - when you do go out, avoid touching common surfaces, wash your hands 4 times a day. Stand away from other people as much as possible. Maybe wear a mask.
That's what we all have to do now. EVEN as the chance to actually get the virus today are VERY small.
It's a statistic game, and we are all counted.
If you think that is too disruptive, you need to think carefully about what the alternatives are.
The more it spreads, the higher the stakes will be.