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Heraclitusstudent says

socal2 says

Trump didn't just pull this out of his ass.

He definitively pulls A LOT of stuff out of his ass.
“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)

He's been clinging at any hope that justifies denial of the situation and putting his head in the sand.

And this was just one of straws he was grasping at.
Anyone with a tiny bit of integrity would recognize that. - Not personality cult members obviously.

WTF does this have to do with Trump? I'm still amazed people. It's a virus. A. Virus.

Trump's reaction has been fine. The governors reactions have been fine. Not sure what people think a single individual is going to do for you in times like this. Take care of yourself and hope for the best. If you die, you die. Hopefully you lived life to the fullest. A meteor could hit my house and kill me right now and I'd be satisfied with my life.

People gotta stop with this faux reliance on the POTUS. Scary how much people think one person matters. It's like high school and popular kids. Get over it.

Heraclitusstudent says

“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)

Are any of these statements incorrect?

I accidentally liked your post but I did not click it again to unlike as I do like you.

Onvacation says

Maybe the feds should weld all of our doors shut like they did in Wuhan. Would that be enough?

So it's either misinformation, late responses and magical thinking out loud or welding the doors shut? Can't conceive of anything in between? Sad

Onvacation says

Maybe the feds should weld all of our doors shut like they did in Wuhan. Would that be enough?

So it's either misinformation, late responses and magical thinking out loud or welding the doors shut? Can't conceive of anything in between? Sad

Heraclitusstudent says

Not personality cult members obviously.

Do you really think all of the Trump's supporters blindly love him like Obama's did?

rdm says

So it's either misinformation, late responses and magical thinking out loud or welding the doors shut? Can't conceive of anything in between? Sad

OK. What do YOU think Trump should do about the virus?

rdm says

So it's either misinformation, late responses and magical thinking out loud or welding the doors shut? Can't conceive of anything in between? Sad

What would you and your experts response be?

socal2 says

Now a month later, CNN is reluctantly admitting that Trump was correct.

But they did admit it, no? Has Trump ever admitted he was wrong? Or perhaps he really is the "infallible plenipotentiary"?

Heraclitusstudent says

He definitively pulls A LOT of stuff out of his ass.
“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)

Sure - Trump talks out of his ass alot and is prone to exaggeration.

But I will take a President who makes aspirational comments trying to keep the country calm WHILE he is taking ACTIONS of shutting down our borders compared to these crazy SJW Democrats who were going around aping Communist China's propaganda calling Trump a racist and xenophobe. Worse, long after Trump shut down travel from China, dopey Democrats were encouraging people to go out and celebrate the Chinese New Year and to take mass transit.

Have you not seen all of the videos of Pelosi, Deblasio, Biden, and all of the Media morons over the past few weeks? Have you seen all of shit reporting by CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, Bloomberg and WAPO praising China's response?

If so, how do you think the Democrats have a leg to stand on or think it is comparable to the Trump quotes above?

Trump is far from perfect, he is just 10X better than anyone in the bonkers Democrat party who constantly put political correctness in front of our nation's health.

Onvacation says

“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)

Are any of these statements incorrect?

My guess: you don't live in New York City.

rdm says

My guess: you don't live in New York City.

New Yorkers were foolishly listening to their Democrat leadership.

Go party in China Town!

https://twitter.com/tomselliott/status/1245385767729463297?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1245385767729463297&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Ftwitchy.com%2Fsarahd-313035%2F2020%2F04%2F01%2Fneed-a-reminder-that-dems-give-really-terrible-coronavirus-advice-this-oughta-do-it-video%2F

Heraclitusstudent says

Countries all over the world follow medical protocols.

Admit once and for all that Trump had, and has no proof whatsoever it works. What he did in essence is like recommending garlic as a cure.

Anyone notice the reports of Doctors, Nurses, and people on the frontline of the medical field dying in larger numbers than the rest of the population, has dropped off?

I think two reasons. The Medical professionals were talking Ibuprofen before it was known it turns Covid19 into Lung AIDS, and before the Trump Pills were validated by Frenchie and the good Jewish Doctor in New York.

It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.

BTW when my Sister text messaged me last week about the Ibuprofen realization, when I googled it, about 6 Fact Checking Websites called it a Hoax, but Drugs.Com confirmed it, and explained the Scientific reason behind it.

socal2 says

Trump is far from perfect, he is just 10X better than anyone in the bonkers Democrat party who constantly put political correctness in front of our nation's health.

Give me one example of this from Biden?

Unless you think his constant refrain to listen to the scientists is PC.

Heraclitusstudent says

He's been clinging at any hope that justifies denial of the situation and putting his head in the sand.

And this was just one of straws he was grasping at.
Anyone with a tiny bit of integrity would recognize that. - Not personality cult members obviously.

y'all got anymore of them Trump Pills?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/31/michigan-democrat-governor-asks-feds-for-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus-four-days-after-banning-use/#more-187992

Tenpoundbass says

It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.

After this whole thing blows over by the middle of the summer, ppl like Fauci will be known for the type of bureaucratic cockblockers that they really are.

He had his chance, on the international stage, to show that he was more than a corporate/govt/academic shill but failed at his job, which wasn't to protect the profession (from liabilities) but to protect the public.

rdm says

Give me one example of this from Biden?

For real?

Here is Biden's big Coronavirus speech from a few weeks ago criticizing Trump's travel ban from China and Europe........calling Trump a xenophobe..........saying it wouldn't stop the virus.

Keep in mind, Slow Joe Biden was saying this 6 weeks after Trump banned travel from China and the WHO finally got around to calling this a Pandemic. Even after we figured out that the Coronavirus was extremely contagious and deadly, Biden was putting Political Correctness in front of America's health.

Now pretty much the entire fucking world has travel bans in place.

www.youtube.com/embed/aAdzW-mRKTk

COVID 19 BECAUSE TRUMP!

No other reasons or explanations required!

rdm says

My guess: you don't live in New York City.

Heraclitusstudent says

He definitively pulls A LOT of stuff out of his ass.

So does the Washington Post. Pretty Clear what Bezo's priority was:

Rin says

Tenpoundbass says

It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.

After this whole thing blows over by the middle of the summer, ppl like Fauci will be known for the type of bureaucratic cockblockers that they really are.

He had his chance, on the international stage, to show that he was more than a corporate/govt/academic shill but failed at his job, which wasn't to protect the profession (from liabilities) but to protect the public.

His bullshit half assed answers about Clinical trials over time, in terms of months or even years. Was total bullshit, this isn't a chronic long term condition. Covid19 has more in common with hand grenades than it does with AIDS, MS, Diabetes or any other prolonged diseases. Pull the the pin throw it, either the damn thing explodes or it doesn't.
You don't need a year long study to know if they work or not.


This is off label use we're talking about here, and FDA has already studied the long term health and impact from those Drugs, when they approved it for Malaria and a few other things it treats.

Trump is genius how he is stepping in all of the right shit piles to keep exposing these Deep state establishment critters. How does he know they will always willingly with impunity step forward and admit what a Globalist Ass Clown working against the Tax payer and abusing their office, every time?

rdm says

Give me one example of this from Biden?

Well, Corn-pop was a bad dude.

socal2 says

Now a month later, CNN is reluctantly admitting that Trump was correct.

socal2 says

Here is Biden's big Coronavirus speech from a few weeks ago criticizing Trump's travel ban from China and Europe........calling Trump a xenophobe..........saying it wouldn't stop the virus.

For real?
That all you got to go up against Trumps continual blathering of misinformation and a way late, inadequate Federal response? He said the travel bans were not enough, not much if any PC. And do you disagree with anything else in the speech, was it factual? That travel bans may slow the virus but not stop it (this is true) and need to be put in place on a scientific basis rather than political. Never mentioned Trumps name. If we had used the travel bans and the several months they may have bought us constructively, rather than doing almost nothing, we would be in much better shape.

Fact of the matter is Biden wrote a piece for USA today back in January that pointed out the shortcomings of Trumps response, we would be in a much better position today if Biden's ideas had been followed rather than Trumps magical thinking of an April miracle.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

rdm says

And do you disagree with anything else in the speech, was it factual? That travel bans may slow the virus but not stop it (this is true) and need to be put in place on a scientific basis rather than political

Biden admits that travel bans would slow the spread, but he would not enact a ban because he would piss off his benefactors in China or put a stigma on Chinese Americans?

The only one acting politically on this issue is Biden and the Democrats putting our country's heath at peril.

rdm says

Fact of the matter is Biden wrote a piece for USA today back in January that pointed out the shortcomings of Trumps response, we would be in a much better position today if Biden's ideas had been followed rather than Trumps magical thinking of an April miracle.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/

An Op-Ed from Biden that spreads the lie that Trump disbanded the Pandemic team and cut the FDA and CDC?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/28/michael-bloomberg/did-donald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/dems-misconstrue-trump-budget-remarks/

ThreeBays says

If HCQ was real, why are the only studies and 'evidence' bening presented by con artists?

Everything and everyone is a con artist in times like this. Trust nothing.

ThreeBays says

If HCQ was real, why are the only studies and 'evidence' bening presented by con artists?

FDA is now participating in HCQ hoax:

https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

Based on the totality of scientific evidence available to FDA, it is reasonable to believe that chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate may be effective in treating COVID-19, and that, when used under the conditions described in this authorization, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate when used to treat COVID-19 outweigh the known and potential risks of such products.

I think our media libruls who bashed trump about this should apologize for it...but will never happen because ORANGEMAN BAD FOREVAH

rd6B says

I think our media libruls who bashed trump about this should apologize for it...but will never happen because ORANGEMAN BAD FOREVAH

You know they're just going to say Trump ordered the FDA to do/say this. I'm no Trump fan boy, but he could cure cancer tomorrow and everyone would still be pissed off. It's become a joke at this point.

and on a side note -
I have philosophical disagreements with trump with respect to fucking bailouts, but he has been such a paragon of intelligence relative to our media and libruls that I fail to see how his approval would not skyrocket when this is all over (unless economy collapses). He closed China border among librul screeching, he told people not to panic, now he is right about HCQ...being right over and over again, and media plants a minefield and then walks all over it themselves blowing their minuscule credibility leftovers to smithereens.
WookieMan says

You know they're just going to say Trump ordered the FDA to do/say this.

You're right, but fed bureaucracy does not work like that. They will not stick their necks out unless they are 120% sure about being right.

WookieMan says

FOREVAH

Is that a Boston or a NY accent?

I think it's FOEVAH in Boston.

Onvacation says

Do you really think all of the Trump's supporters blindly love him like Obama's did?

That's EXACTLY what the trumpsters are all doing in this thread.

Heraclitusstudent says

That's EXACTLY what the trumpsters are all doing in this thread.

Because you all are putting up lame chicken-shit complaints and trying to polarize our country in a time of crisis.

- "He said he hoped the country would be open by Easter!"
- "He is hopeful and talking up hydroxchloroquine!"
- "He said Wuhan Virus!!!"

Of course Trumpers are going to circle the wagons over stupid complaints.

Besides, as of right now - the US is doing better than virtually every single modern Western European country in terms of deaths per capita - despite having a high population of obese and diabetic citizens and tens of thousands of Chinese flying into the country every single day up until Feb 1.

That's all the fault of the infidels.

Heraclitusstudent says

That's all the fault of the infidels.

You finally get it!

socal2 says

Biden admits that travel bans would slow the spread, but he would not enact a ban because he would piss off his benefactors in China or put a stigma on Chinese Americans

Where does Biden say he wouldn't have enacted the travel ban(s)? Just make shit up, so we do just like the "media" one so complains about? That's the Trump play book

.socal2 says

An Op-Ed from Biden that spreads the lie that Trump disbanded the Pandemic team and cut the FDA and CDC?

Apparently reading comprehension is a problem too, don't know the difference between cut and proposed cuts? Which Trump absolutely did.

"He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones."

The most important chart. "IF ONLY WE HAD A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE!"

Rin says

Is that a Boston or a NY accent?

I think it's FOEVAH in Boston.

German English

from https://public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19/c8/be4e/4edbd4/dbd4ba4ac5a3b3d9a479f99cc5/wave-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/apr/2/hydroxychloroquine-rated-most-effective-therapy-do/

BOOM!!!! Here you go @patrick:

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/laura-ingraham-bombshell-infectious-disease-md-reveals-results-of-hcq-trials/

Looks like we got a fix! How soon before they roll this out and the media stops hiding it?

rdm says

Biden

rdm says

Where does Biden say he wouldn't have enacted the travel ban(s)? Just make shit up, so we do just like the "media" one so complains about? That's the Trump play boo

"We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science"


That's clearly the words of someone who would have supported a travel ban from China. Dems were against it from the get go, and they used the WHO statements as their justification. After the Europe travel ban, the EU was against it, as were the Dems. Sorry...the left was late to the party and probably would have cost more lives initially. That's a fact. Trump should have shut the borders Jan 1st...unfortunately, the information just wasn't out there to justify that at the time. No country was fast enough to stop the entry and spread...none...it caught everyone by surprise. But the right actions were taken and initially fought by some.