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Efficacy of hydroxychloroquine against Wuhan virus


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2020 Mar 21, 10:47am   12,689 views  290 comments

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152   socal2   2020 Apr 1, 11:01am  

Heraclitusstudent says
He definitively pulls A LOT of stuff out of his ass.
“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)


Sure - Trump talks out of his ass alot and is prone to exaggeration.

But I will take a President who makes aspirational comments trying to keep the country calm WHILE he is taking ACTIONS of shutting down our borders compared to these crazy SJW Democrats who were going around aping Communist China's propaganda calling Trump a racist and xenophobe. Worse, long after Trump shut down travel from China, dopey Democrats were encouraging people to go out and celebrate the Chinese New Year and to take mass transit.

Have you not seen all of the videos of Pelosi, Deblasio, Biden, and all of the Media morons over the past few weeks? Have you seen all of shit reporting by CNN, MSNBC, NYTimes, Bloomberg and WAPO praising China's response?

If so, how do you think the Democrats have a leg to stand on or think it is comparable to the Trump quotes above?

Trump is far from perfect, he is just 10X better than anyone in the bonkers Democrat party who constantly put political correctness in front of our nation's health.
153   rdm   2020 Apr 1, 11:02am  

Onvacation says
“We have it totally under control. ... It’s going to be just fine. ”
"One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.” (Feb 28)
"it will go away. Just stay calm. It will go away. ” (March 10)

Are any of these statements incorrect?


My guess: you don't live in New York City.
155   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 1, 11:15am  

Heraclitusstudent says
Countries all over the world follow medical protocols.

Admit once and for all that Trump had, and has no proof whatsoever it works. What he did in essence is like recommending garlic as a cure.


Anyone notice the reports of Doctors, Nurses, and people on the frontline of the medical field dying in larger numbers than the rest of the population, has dropped off?

I think two reasons. The Medical professionals were talking Ibuprofen before it was known it turns Covid19 into Lung AIDS, and before the Trump Pills were validated by Frenchie and the good Jewish Doctor in New York.

It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.
156   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 1, 11:18am  

BTW when my Sister text messaged me last week about the Ibuprofen realization, when I googled it, about 6 Fact Checking Websites called it a Hoax, but Drugs.Com confirmed it, and explained the Scientific reason behind it.
157   rdm   2020 Apr 1, 11:34am  

socal2 says
Trump is far from perfect, he is just 10X better than anyone in the bonkers Democrat party who constantly put political correctness in front of our nation's health.


Give me one example of this from Biden?

Unless you think his constant refrain to listen to the scientists is PC.
158   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 1, 11:38am  

Heraclitusstudent says
He's been clinging at any hope that justifies denial of the situation and putting his head in the sand.

And this was just one of straws he was grasping at.
Anyone with a tiny bit of integrity would recognize that. - Not personality cult members obviously.



y'all got anymore of them Trump Pills?

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/2020/03/31/michigan-democrat-governor-asks-feds-for-hydroxychloroquine-to-treat-coronavirus-four-days-after-banning-use/#more-187992
159   Rin   2020 Apr 1, 12:10pm  

Tenpoundbass says
It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.


After this whole thing blows over by the middle of the summer, ppl like Fauci will be known for the type of bureaucratic cockblockers that they really are.

He had his chance, on the international stage, to show that he was more than a corporate/govt/academic shill but failed at his job, which wasn't to protect the profession (from liabilities) but to protect the public.
160   socal2   2020 Apr 1, 12:17pm  

rdm says
Give me one example of this from Biden?


For real?

Here is Biden's big Coronavirus speech from a few weeks ago criticizing Trump's travel ban from China and Europe........calling Trump a xenophobe..........saying it wouldn't stop the virus.

Keep in mind, Slow Joe Biden was saying this 6 weeks after Trump banned travel from China and the WHO finally got around to calling this a Pandemic. Even after we figured out that the Coronavirus was extremely contagious and deadly, Biden was putting Political Correctness in front of America's health.

Now pretty much the entire fucking world has travel bans in place.

www.youtube.com/embed/aAdzW-mRKTk
161   Ceffer   2020 Apr 1, 12:18pm  

COVID 19 BECAUSE TRUMP!

No other reasons or explanations required!
162   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 1, 12:30pm  

rdm says
My guess: you don't live in New York City.
Heraclitusstudent says
He definitively pulls A LOT of stuff out of his ass.
So does the Washington Post. Pretty Clear what Bezo's priority was:

163   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 1, 12:36pm  

Rin says
Tenpoundbass says
It's also telling that Half pint Fauci has not reported one single statistic from his fictitious clinical trial he announced two weeks ago.


After this whole thing blows over by the middle of the summer, ppl like Fauci will be known for the type of bureaucratic cockblockers that they really are.

He had his chance, on the international stage, to show that he was more than a corporate/govt/academic shill but failed at his job, which wasn't to protect the profession (from liabilities) but to protect the public.



His bullshit half assed answers about Clinical trials over time, in terms of months or even years. Was total bullshit, this isn't a chronic long term condition. Covid19 has more in common with hand grenades than it does with AIDS, MS, Diabetes or any other prolonged diseases. Pull the the pin throw it, either the damn thing explodes or it doesn't.
You don't need a year long study to know if they work or not.


This is off label use we're talking about here, and FDA has already studied the long term health and impact from those Drugs, when they approved it for Malaria and a few other things it treats.

Trump is genius how he is stepping in all of the right shit piles to keep exposing these Deep state establishment critters. How does he know they will always willingly with impunity step forward and admit what a Globalist Ass Clown working against the Tax payer and abusing their office, every time?
164   Onvacation   2020 Apr 1, 12:45pm  

rdm says

Give me one example of this from Biden?

Well, Corn-pop was a bad dude.
165   rdm   2020 Apr 1, 12:48pm  

socal2 says
Now a month later, CNN is reluctantly admitting that Trump was correct.
socal2 says
Here is Biden's big Coronavirus speech from a few weeks ago criticizing Trump's travel ban from China and Europe........calling Trump a xenophobe..........saying it wouldn't stop the virus.


For real?
That all you got to go up against Trumps continual blathering of misinformation and a way late, inadequate Federal response? He said the travel bans were not enough, not much if any PC. And do you disagree with anything else in the speech, was it factual? That travel bans may slow the virus but not stop it (this is true) and need to be put in place on a scientific basis rather than political. Never mentioned Trumps name. If we had used the travel bans and the several months they may have bought us constructively, rather than doing almost nothing, we would be in much better shape.

Fact of the matter is Biden wrote a piece for USA today back in January that pointed out the shortcomings of Trumps response, we would be in a much better position today if Biden's ideas had been followed rather than Trumps magical thinking of an April miracle.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/
166   socal2   2020 Apr 1, 1:30pm  

rdm says
And do you disagree with anything else in the speech, was it factual? That travel bans may slow the virus but not stop it (this is true) and need to be put in place on a scientific basis rather than political


Biden admits that travel bans would slow the spread, but he would not enact a ban because he would piss off his benefactors in China or put a stigma on Chinese Americans?

The only one acting politically on this issue is Biden and the Democrats putting our country's heath at peril.

rdm says
Fact of the matter is Biden wrote a piece for USA today back in January that pointed out the shortcomings of Trumps response, we would be in a much better position today if Biden's ideas had been followed rather than Trumps magical thinking of an April miracle.
https://www.usatoday.com/story/opinion/2020/01/27/coronavirus-donald-trump-made-us-less-prepared-joe-biden-column/4581710002/


An Op-Ed from Biden that spreads the lie that Trump disbanded the Pandemic team and cut the FDA and CDC?
https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/feb/28/michael-bloomberg/did-donald-trump-fire-pandemic-officials-defund-cd/
https://www.factcheck.org/2020/03/dems-misconstrue-trump-budget-remarks/
168   WookieMan   2020 Apr 1, 2:07pm  

ThreeBays says
If HCQ was real, why are the only studies and 'evidence' bening presented by con artists?

Everything and everyone is a con artist in times like this. Trust nothing.
169   Bd6r   2020 Apr 1, 2:08pm  

ThreeBays says
If HCQ was real, why are the only studies and 'evidence' bening presented by con artists?

FDA is now participating in HCQ hoax:

https://www.fda.gov/media/136534/download

Based on the totality of scientific evidence available to FDA, it is reasonable to believe that chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate may be effective in treating COVID-19, and that, when used under the conditions described in this authorization, the known and potential benefits of chloroquine phosphate and hydroxychloroquine sulfate when used to treat COVID-19 outweigh the known and potential risks of such products.

I think our media libruls who bashed trump about this should apologize for it...but will never happen because ORANGEMAN BAD FOREVAH
170   WookieMan   2020 Apr 1, 2:14pm  

rd6B says
I think our media libruls who bashed trump about this should apologize for it...but will never happen because ORANGEMAN BAD FOREVAH

You know they're just going to say Trump ordered the FDA to do/say this. I'm no Trump fan boy, but he could cure cancer tomorrow and everyone would still be pissed off. It's become a joke at this point.
171   Bd6r   2020 Apr 1, 2:16pm  

and on a side note -
I have philosophical disagreements with trump with respect to fucking bailouts, but he has been such a paragon of intelligence relative to our media and libruls that I fail to see how his approval would not skyrocket when this is all over (unless economy collapses). He closed China border among librul screeching, he told people not to panic, now he is right about HCQ...being right over and over again, and media plants a minefield and then walks all over it themselves blowing their minuscule credibility leftovers to smithereens.
WookieMan says
You know they're just going to say Trump ordered the FDA to do/say this.

You're right, but fed bureaucracy does not work like that. They will not stick their necks out unless they are 120% sure about being right.
172   Rin   2020 Apr 1, 2:34pm  

WookieMan says
FOREVAH


Is that a Boston or a NY accent?

I think it's FOEVAH in Boston.
173   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Apr 1, 3:33pm  

Onvacation says
Do you really think all of the Trump's supporters blindly love him like Obama's did?

That's EXACTLY what the trumpsters are all doing in this thread.
174   socal2   2020 Apr 1, 3:45pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
That's EXACTLY what the trumpsters are all doing in this thread.


Because you all are putting up lame chicken-shit complaints and trying to polarize our country in a time of crisis.

- "He said he hoped the country would be open by Easter!"
- "He is hopeful and talking up hydroxchloroquine!"
- "He said Wuhan Virus!!!"

Of course Trumpers are going to circle the wagons over stupid complaints.

Besides, as of right now - the US is doing better than virtually every single modern Western European country in terms of deaths per capita - despite having a high population of obese and diabetic citizens and tens of thousands of Chinese flying into the country every single day up until Feb 1.
175   Heraclitusstudent   2020 Apr 1, 4:46pm  

That's all the fault of the infidels.
176   Onvacation   2020 Apr 1, 5:02pm  

Heraclitusstudent says
That's all the fault of the infidels.

You finally get it!
177   rdm   2020 Apr 1, 5:06pm  

socal2 says
Biden admits that travel bans would slow the spread, but he would not enact a ban because he would piss off his benefactors in China or put a stigma on Chinese Americans


Where does Biden say he wouldn't have enacted the travel ban(s)? Just make shit up, so we do just like the "media" one so complains about? That's the Trump play book

.socal2 says
An Op-Ed from Biden that spreads the lie that Trump disbanded the Pandemic team and cut the FDA and CDC?


Apparently reading comprehension is a problem too, don't know the difference between cut and proposed cuts? Which Trump absolutely did.

"He proposed draconian cuts to the National Institutes of Health (NIH), the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) and the Agency for International Development — the very agencies we need to fight this outbreak and prevent future ones."
178   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Apr 1, 5:16pm  

The most important chart. "IF ONLY WE HAD A NATIONAL HEALTH SERVICE!"

179   Bd6r   2020 Apr 1, 5:56pm  

Rin says
Is that a Boston or a NY accent?

I think it's FOEVAH in Boston.

German English
182   joshuatrio   2020 Apr 3, 6:09am  

BOOM!!!! Here you go @patrick:

https://www.citizenfreepress.com/breaking/laura-ingraham-bombshell-infectious-disease-md-reveals-results-of-hcq-trials/

Looks like we got a fix! How soon before they roll this out and the media stops hiding it?
183   theoakman   2020 Apr 3, 6:48am  

rdm says
Biden
rdm says
Where does Biden say he wouldn't have enacted the travel ban(s)? Just make shit up, so we do just like the "media" one so complains about? That's the Trump play boo


"We have, right now, a crisis with the coronavirus,” Biden said in Iowa Friday. “This is no time for Donald Trump’s record of hysteria and xenophobia – hysterical xenophobia – and fearmongering to lead the way instead of science"


That's clearly the words of someone who would have supported a travel ban from China. Dems were against it from the get go, and they used the WHO statements as their justification. After the Europe travel ban, the EU was against it, as were the Dems. Sorry...the left was late to the party and probably would have cost more lives initially. That's a fact. Trump should have shut the borders Jan 1st...unfortunately, the information just wasn't out there to justify that at the time. No country was fast enough to stop the entry and spread...none...it caught everyone by surprise. But the right actions were taken and initially fought by some.
184   Patrick   2020 Apr 3, 7:51am  

Patrick says


from https://public-cdn.sermo.com/covid19/c8/be4e/4edbd4/dbd4ba4ac5a3b3d9a479f99cc5/wave-i-sermo-covid-19-global-analysis-final.pdf


That same report shows Span and Italy have the highest use of hydroxychloroquine, at about 75% of doctors using it, which may help explain why their graphs of deaths are now flat.

The US has only 25% of doctors using it, and our death rate is still rising.

The hate for Trump is literally costing innocent lives. #TrumpPills
186   RWSGFY   2020 Apr 3, 5:22pm  

ThreeBays says
Welp, France might have done something to include more deaths in their statistics.



Ahh here's the reason.

On April 2, France reported 884 additional deaths that have occurred in nursing homes over the past days and weeks


#fuckingmorons
187   Patrick   2020 Apr 4, 11:53pm  

Another common drug might also work:

https://www.breitbart.com/border/2020/04/04/common-anti-parasite-drug-may-kill-coronavirus-in-under-48-hours-say-researchers/

Researchers in Australia report that Ivermectin, an FDA-approved drug commonly used to treat parasites, appears to be effective in treating the SARS-COV-2 coronavirus (COVID-19). The drug is widely available and can be “repurposed” for this application, doctors said.

The ScienceDirect journal, Antiviral Research, published an article by a group of Australian researchers from Monash University in Melbourne reporting that Ivermectin appears to be effective at inhibiting the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.

The article states:

Ivermectin is an inhibitor of the COVID-19 causative virus (SARS-CoV-2) in vitro.
A single treatment able to effect ∼5000-fold reduction in virus at 48h in cell culture.
Ivermectin is FDA-approved for parasitic infections, and therefore has a potential for repurposing.
Ivermectin is widely available, due to its inclusion on the WHO model list of essential medicines.
188   Tenpoundbass   2020 Apr 5, 6:27am  

It is amazing how everyone is dancing around the truth and racing to come up with an alternative for Chloroquine, because I'll be damned if they'll allow that Pompous Frog to get all of the credit for saving the World.

These people all need to be locked up and fed nothing but baloney and processed cheese.
189   Patrick   2020 Apr 5, 10:49am  

https://www.acsh.org/news/2020/03/26/problem-remdesivir-making-it-14665

Here's the important point of this article:

Two of the experimental coronavirus drugs, chloroquine, and hydroxychloroquine are a breeze to synthesize.


There should never be any real shortages of those.
190   HeadSet   2020 Apr 5, 11:41am  

Two of the experimental coronavirus drugs, chloroquine, and hydroxychloroquine are a breeze to synthesize.

No bear bile needed?
191   Patrick   2020 Apr 5, 11:50am  

Cool dashboard of clinical trials:

https://www.quiverquant.com/covidtreatments/

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