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REpro
2020 Jul 4, 11:43pm
REpro
2020 Jul 4, 11:43pm
In other words: If Prop 16 passes, it will again allow the state to discriminate in hiring and education.
Means: Will allow to discriminate smart people on favor of people easy to manage, following and obey.
Means: Will allow to discriminate smart people on favor of people easy to manage, following and obey.
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Ceffer
2020 Jul 5, 2:44am
Ceffer
2020 Jul 5, 2:44am
Shit. Why do they need a Prop, they have been doing it for over 50 years without a Prop. or abolishment of 209. If you hadn't noticed, the Great Socialist Paradise of CrummyFornia doesn't care about legality or illegality to do whatever the fuck it pleases by fiat most of the time.
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SunnyvaleCA
2020 Jul 6, 12:46am
Al_Sharpton_for_President says
What will this mean for the Lakers?The six starters for the Lakers will be: 2 Latinos, 2 Caucasians, 1 Asian and 1 Black. 3 of the 6 will also be women. Unless the entire league changes, I don't see a bright future for the Lakers. I think the slogan is: "Get woke, go broke."
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Shaman
2020 Jul 6, 8:11am
Shaman
2020 Jul 6, 8:11am
I would say this hasn’t a prayer of passing. Latinos are the actual majority in California and stand to lose with this bill. Whites won’t gain or lose. Asians will lose. Blacks will gain.
If most of the whites and all the blacks vote for this it still won’t have enough to pass.
If most of the whites and all the blacks vote for this it still won’t have enough to pass.
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Karloff
2020 Jul 6, 8:22am
Karloff
2020 Jul 6, 8:22am
It's so "progressive", though.
Is that how these people view progress? We MUST change something? "Now that we have equality on the books, it's time to change that."
Is that how these people view progress? We MUST change something? "Now that we have equality on the books, it's time to change that."
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SunnyvaleCA
2020 Jul 6, 10:21am
Shaman says
I don't see how Latinos lose if this passes. Latinos are somewhat underrepresented at UC schools, so they'll be getting more spots. But remember, giving in one little bit means just a further barrage of demands. At Berkeley, for example, Latinos are just shy of 15% but why not demand that the number be pushed to 40% at each UC school? That's a big change. And demands for changes in faculty too.
Latinos are the actual majority in California and stand to lose with this bill.
I don't see how Latinos lose if this passes. Latinos are somewhat underrepresented at UC schools, so they'll be getting more spots. But remember, giving in one little bit means just a further barrage of demands. At Berkeley, for example, Latinos are just shy of 15% but why not demand that the number be pushed to 40% at each UC school? That's a big change. And demands for changes in faculty too.
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Al_Sharpton_for_President
2020 Jul 6, 10:38am
Al_Sharpton_for_President
2020 Jul 6, 10:38am
The problem is that any white resistance to these types of schemes is RACISM. But non-white insistence on set asides based solely on demographics is OK. And no one sheds any tears for white under-representation, and so white folks have no defense. Can't argue for fairness which equals RACISM, can't argue for color-blind meritocracy, which equals RACISM. Frankly, can't argue at all, so just shut up and go away.
Prop 16 will repeal Prop 209 of 1996. 209 prohibits the state from discriminating by race, sex, or ethnicity with respect to public employment, public contracting, and public education.
In other words: If Prop 16 passes, it will again allow the state to discriminate in hiring and education.
Here's the Wiki for Prop 16: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2020_California_Proposition_16
I've been following the discussion on my local NextDoor.com board. Most of the discussion seems to center around admissions policies of the UC school system, which already uses "economic background" and "hardship" as considerations. One claim at NextDoor is that ACA 5 was specifically intended to allow UC student population to closely follow the race/ethnicity of California as a whole; this would cut the 36% of those identified as Asian back to 15%.