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prodigy saysScientific method is initiated based on opinions.
Are you saying that there are not enough opinions that eyes are the gateway for the virus to even warrant a scientific study? Doesn't it undermine it even fucking further?
You're grasping for straws and we both know it.
I'm saying I would like to read an opposing opinion from someone that has the same or better credentials than the doctor who posted the original opinion.\
Not trying to prove or disprove anything. Trying to gather evidence.
So you know more than "webMD.com"?
"How the Infection Spreads
The new coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2, gets passed on primarily through droplets from a cough or a sneeze. These particles most often enter through your nose or mouth as well as your eyes. "
https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/covid-19-and-your-eyes#1
NBC News contributor never had COVID
This illustration provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in January 2020 shows the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). This virus was identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China. (CDC via AP)
By MICHAEL GRAHAM |
PUBLISHED: July 14, 2020 at 1:10 a.m. | UPDATED: July 14, 2020 at 1:11 a.m.
A frightening NBC News report that a medical contributor caught COVID-19 through his eyes while simply sitting on an airplane has been debunked by multiple tests results. Unfortunately, the network has yet to correct the story.
In May, NBC medical contributor Joseph Fair, a self-styled “virus hunter,” told the Today Show about his experience with the virus. “If it can take me down, it can take down anybody,” he said.
According to Fair, he caught the virus on a commercial flight out of New Orleans. “I had a mask on, I had gloves on, I did my normal wipes routine… but obviously, you can still get it through your eyes,” Fair told the Today Show from his hospital bed. “And, of course, I wasn’t wearing goggles on the flight.”
"I don’t have any of those underlying conditions, I’m 42 years old. So you wouldn’t think, clinically, that I would be one of those people that would get so very ill,” Fair said, adding: “Those people that are young and think they’re invincible or people that just don’t think it’s going to affect them that greatly even if they do get it. I can say that my own experience was the complete opposite.”
What Fair, Todd and NBC News didn’t tell the audience is that before he made this claim, Fair had already tested negative for COVID-19 at least five times. Fair followed that up with an antibody test to detect if he’d ever had the virus. The results were negative.
But it wasn’t until July 7, nearly two months after his initial appearance, that both Fair and NBC revealed the results of his antibody test. Fair now claims his illness “remains an undiagnosed mystery.”
Not only was Fair’s suggestion that he caught the virus through his eyes pure speculation (and in the view of some medical professionals, irresponsible to boot), but his COVID infection has been repeatedly debunked. And still NBC News has yet to take the incorrect report of his “coronavirus infection” off their website.
No studies but a lot of conjecture.
prodigy saysSo you know more than "webMD.com"?
"How the Infection Spreads
The new coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2, gets passed on primarily through droplets from a cough or a sneeze. These particles most often enter through your nose or mouth as well as your eyes. "
https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/covid-19-and-your-eyes#1
remind me what we are debating about...
And how did we morph from we must shut down the economy for two weeks or the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed by THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE REGARDLESS?,
Onvacation saysAnd how did we morph from we must shut down the economy for two weeks or the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed by THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE REGARDLESS?,
Anyone?
Onvacation saysAnd how did we morph from we must shut down the economy for two weeks or the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed by THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE REGARDLESS?,
Anyone?
Thanks for helping prolong the shutdown going into august...
Who are you thanking?
All we’ve done is prolong this thing. Masks are lawfully not enforceable anyway.
If masks mattered we all could have been cutting up shirts in March.
oh wait..... the persons that was 100% wrong is now right.
Fuck the PPE excuse for hospitals.
I can put rubber bands on a paper towel and go anywhere.
You’re being lied to and I think you like it or you’re intentionally pushing a narrative for whatever reason suites you.
Everyone not wearing a mask due to politics and not wanting to make their boy look bad.
Worked out great for the pizza guy...
https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/herman-cain-businessman-gop-presidential-candidate-dies-coronavirus/story?id=72076546
WookieMan saysWho are you thanking?
This is propaganda. The guy had colon cancer and underwent aggressive chemotherapy. A flu may have knocked him out as well.
How many public figures are paraded around when they die at an old age of any infection with the headline in bold mentioning the trigger illness?
All of them when it will generate clicks.
Headlines are all about clicks, nothing else.
cnn inhales the libby clicks.
fox inhales the redneck clicks
they all get rich off the clicks.
mell saysHow many public figures are paraded around when they die at an old age of any infection with the headline in bold mentioning the trigger illness?
Agreed.
So why did he risk catching the covid 19 flu by not wearing a mask at trumps huge outdoor gathering?
He is high risk, so kind of stupid to put himself in that situation. Covid 19 is a bug, like the flu.
Not sure what the "propaganda" angle is. A 100% cotton, 600 thread facemask may have prevented him from inhaling a lethal dose for someone with his problems.
Unless he was just tired of the problems he had and just didn't give a damn.
mell saysThis is propaganda. The guy had colon cancer and underwent aggressive chemotherapy. A flu may have knocked him out as well.
Maybe so but I assume he was what in his 70s and wanted to live the rest of his life to the fullest without fear. This is why we have liberty which includes the liberty to define the risks we're willing to take. From my experience in CA the majority of people not wearing a mask are older men. Maybe they are tired of their wives and like to go out with a blast of a great golfing match with their buddies. Maybe it's because men take greater risk in general, esp. those who give zero fucks who lived their life.
Also another thing to consider is the testing defining the hotspots. I just saw that SF has done 250k tests or about a quarter to a third of their population. They must have ramped up very aggressively so I assume the "surge" in cases are many asymptomatic and mild ones as hospitalizations have held steadily. So this is actually a good thing then and they should consider opening up more instead of closing down.
But saying masks are not effective at reducing infection rates does not jive with available worldwide data.
We shut down for 2 weeks.
Millions did not die.
The hospitals did not get overwhelmed in cali
More data was collected in the 2 week shutdown for the N.O.V.E.L corona virus, and it was determined more time was needed, in addition to near total compliance with facemasks and social distancing.
Masks are lawfully not enforceable anyway.
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