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Flatten the Curve


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2020 Jul 15, 3:31am   29,570 views  720 comments

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As the numbers of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths surge to record levels in multiple epicenters, local and state officials are struggling with whether and how much to reverse the rollback of restrictions on individuals and businesses. For example, following a gradual reopening over about a month, on Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced the reintroduction of statewide restrictions that would again shut down bars, all indoor dining, family entertainment, zoos and museums following a surge in coronavirus cases. The governors of Florida, Texas, and Arizona, all now epicenters of infection, have also slowed or reversed reopening, but their actions have been tepid. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is even insisting on opening schools in the face of record-high numbers of infections.

These officials would do well to recall the observation of The Great One. No, not Dr. Tony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health—the other one, hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, who once explained, “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.”

Anticipating what’s coming is important in confronting an infectious disease, especially one whose dynamics are what many infectious disease experts consider their worst nightmare. COVID-19 is highly infectious, has a lengthy incubation period (during which asymptomatic infected persons can unwittingly shed virus and infect other people), and causes serious, sometimes fatal illness.

Those unusual characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, and the idiosyncrasies and spectrum of presentations of the illness—from pulmonary symptoms (including pneumonia and pulmonary fibrosis) to a range of non-respiratory manifestations, (including loss of sense of smell or taste, confusion and cognitive impairments, fainting, sudden muscle weakness or paralysis, seizures, ischemic strokes, kidney damage, and, rarely, a severe pediatric inflammatory syndrome) mean that we are on a steep learning curve.

The problem is: if we react too slowly to changing circumstances, we can fall off a metaphorical cliff.

There’s an old brain teaser that perfectly illustrates this point. Consider a pond of a certain size, on which there is a single lily pad. This particular species of lily pad reproduces and duplicates itself once a day, so that on day 2, you have two lily pads. On day 3, you have four; on day 4, you have eight; and so on. Here’s the teaser: if it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely, how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway?

The answer? 47 days. In just 24 hours, between day 47 and day 48, the lily pads would double in size and overtake the pond. Moreover, on day 40, the pond would still appear to be relatively clear; just eight days from the pond being completely covered, you’d hardly know the lily pads were there.

If the same thing happens with a virulent and highly contagious infectious agent, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you don’t know you’re in trouble until you wake up one morning to find that you’re overwhelmed. Like the lily pad example, the daily number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. was 18,577 on June 15th—just three weeks later, on July 10th, the number had shot up to 66,281.

Dr. Anthony Fauci
Dr. Anthony Fauci

FLATTENING THE CURVE TO BEAT THE IMPENDING CLIFF

From early in the pandemic, the public health mantra worldwide has been: “flatten the curve.” That important concept, which was in vogue several months ago, seems largely forgotten today.

In the above graphic from the University of Michigan, the blue curve is the viral equivalent of the lily pads, suddenly covering the pond. It represents a large number of people (shown on the vertical axis) becoming infected over a short time (horizontal axis), and, in turn, overwhelming our health care system with people who need hospitalization, or even an Intensive Care Unit (ICU).

People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

If, however, political officials, individuals, and communities take steps to slow the virus’s spread, the cases of COVID-19 will stretch out across a more extended period, as depicted by the flatter, yellow curve. As long as the number of cases at any given time doesn’t bleed past the dotted line marking the capacity of our nation’s health care system, we’ll be able to accommodate everyone who is very sick.

Curve-flattening has fallen out of focus in recent months, in part because some political leaders reopened too aggressively and prematurely, basing policy on their constituents’ “pandemic fatigue,” instead of on the advice of epidemiologists and infectious disease experts.

But it’s still critical to avoid the pattern of the blue curve, not only to spare hospitals and ICUs—which are especially under stress in parts of Arizona, Florida, and Texas—but also so that we can continue the gradual reopening of the nation’s businesses and schools. Reopening relies on curve-flattening. As the NIH’s Dr. Tony Fauci says frequently, public health and economic considerations are not in opposition but are opposite sides of the same coin; we can’t fully restart and resume commerce until the pandemic is under some measure of control. People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

That means we need to start anticipating and stop playing catch-up—as the governors of Florida, Arizona, and Texas have been doing, relying on a combination of magical thinking, Happy Talk, and too-little-too-late remedies, instead of aggressive, evidence-based public health policies.

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, for instance, has offered no strategy for blunting the spike in COVID-19 cases other than to keep repeating that there were enough hospital beds to treat those who fall ill. And yet, ICU beds and ventilators in use by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients in Arizona both hit new records on July 12th and were under stress, according to data reported by hospitals to the state.

On July 10th, a physicians group gathered outside Florida Governor DeSantis’s mansion in Tallahassee to urge him to issue an order mandating the use of face masks statewide, which arguably should have been done months ago. Masks have long been considered essential to slowing the spread of COVID-19, but, inexplicably, the Governor resisted. And only on July 10th did Texas Governor Greg Abbott finally mandate the wearing of face masks, and demand the prohibition of large gatherings and the closing of bars across the state.

Elected officials must heed Wayne Gretzky’s admonition and stay ahead of the coronavirus, in order to lower its rate of transmission. That’s the only way to slow the rise of new cases.

Evidence-based policies, such as requiring masks in public, prohibiting large indoor gatherings, and indoor dining at restaurants, are important. But as we’ve seen with California, even aggressive imposition of those kinds of strictures has not been sufficient—in large part because many people, especially younger ones, have failed to comply. As California allowed businesses and public places to reopen, bars, boardwalks, and beaches became crowded with large numbers of maskless patrons. It’s no wonder, then, that as of July 13th, hospitals in the state reported a 27.8% increase in hospitalized patients over the previous 14 days and a 19.9% increase in ICU patients over that same period. In fact, as a result of noncompliance, many local governments in the Golden State have had to coordinate with law enforcement agencies to issue citations and explore civil alternatives through code enforcement, environmental health, or other local government personnel.

Of course, the need for heightened consequences for noncompliance is unfortunate, but it will help to re-flatten the curve. That will spread out the demands on hospitals, which must have sufficient space, supplies, and healthy staff to care for all those who need hospital-level care—whether for COVID-19, a stroke, trauma, emergency surgery, or childbirth. It’s strong, but necessary, medicine—which possibly could have been avoided with more intense efforts to get the public to comply with wearing masks, social distancing, and frequent hand-washing.

If politicians properly understood their role in flattening the curve, they wouldn’t have to resort to policing and ticketing. They would instead launch a tsunami of public service announcements from all manner of dignitaries and celebrities, including prominent politicians, actors, rock stars, and athletes—maybe even The Great One himself—demonstrating how we can anticipate instead of falling behind the curve.

That non-coercive strategy could be a winner.


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Henry I. Miller, M.S., M.D.
Henry I. Miller, a physician and molecular biologist, is a Senior Fellow at the Pacific Research Institute. He was the founding director of the FDA’s Office of Biotechnology.


https://humanevents.com/2020/07/14/flattening-the-curve-is-still-the-right-answer/

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218   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:00pm  

Im sorry did you prefer an anecdote instead?
219   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:00pm  

MrEd says
Why use anecdotes when the real thing will do?

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.kxan.com/news/coronavirus/5-year-old-dallas-boy-dies-from-covid-19/amp/
Onvacation says
MrEd says
Kids have died from covid19.


Please provide link. Anecdote accepted.

Proves my point. People who die from covid-19 have comorbidities.
220   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:18pm  

This post has diagnosed the meat and potatoes of the situation we find ourselves in.
Mask deniers can put forth all the offbeat arguments they can think up, but the proof is in the pudding. Countries with low to nonexistant covid cases have all implemented successful mask wearing with social distancing. No vaccines or medical miracles needed.
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.
Now, the only reason anyone would not comply is because they like the death and destruction.
And the only reason they feel this way is because granny really did beat the shit out of them during their childhood.
If they are as tough as they say they are, they need to get over....ahhh their pussys, fergettaboutit..
prodigy says

www.youtube.com/embed/RkB0k81oNiI
221   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:21pm  

CDC thinks opening schools will save children:

the harms attributed to closed schools on the social, emotional, and behavioral health, economic well-being, and academic achievement of children, in both the short- and long-term, are well-known and significant. Further, the lack of in-person educational options disproportionately harms low-income and minority children and those living with disabilities. These students are far less likely to have access to private instruction and care and far more likely to rely on key school-supported resources like food programs, special education services, counseling, and after-school programs to meet basic developmental needs.[4]

Aside from a child’s home, no other setting has more influence on a child’s health and well-being than their school. The in-person school environment does the following:

*provides educational instruction;
*supports the development of social and emotional skills;
*creates a safe environment for learning;
*addresses nutritional needs; and
*facilitates physical activity.

https://www.cdc.gov/coronavirus/2019-ncov/community/schools-childcare/reopening-schools.html

Very few children have dyed from covid-19. Almost all (probably all) that have have had comorbidities. According to the CDC 236 school age kids have dyed from covid-19, including college age kids. They don't list comorbidities these kids may have suffered
222   Tenpoundbass   2020 Jul 26, 6:22pm  

The Bogus Rona Data is more flawed than the Al Gore Global Warming Data, and just as cooked up.
It's almost as bad as the more than two Gender argument I mean data.
223   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:23pm  

MrEd says
Still waiting for your constitutional infringement sentence.
Do you have anything?

Religion and peaceable assembly.
224   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:26pm  

MrEd says
Appears mask deniers have neither.

You can always spot a branch covidian. They wear masks outside and in their cars, even if there is no one within 6 yards of them.
225   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:28pm  

MrEd says
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.

By this logic we will have to mask and social distance forever.
226   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:31pm  

No more sports. No more concerts. No more school.
Life is dangerous. Those afraid of living should mask up and self quarantine. It's for your own good.
227   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 6:33pm  

@MrEd thanks for the civil debate. I learn a lot here on patnet. I hope you do too.
228   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:52pm  

Yeah usually it's blue #7 or Red#9
Onvacation says
Very few children have dyed from covid-19.
229   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:54pm  

I agree, because it'll be a cold day in hell before 165 million people agree with the other 165mil.
Onvacation says
MrEd says
IF THE LITTLE FUCKER CANT MOVE FROM HOST TO HOST IT WILL DIE OUT WITHIN WEEKS.
BUT THIS ONLY WORKS IF EVERYBODY WEARS THE FUCKIN MASK AND SOCIAL DISTANCES.

By this logic we will have to mask and social distance forever.
230   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:55pm  

Such a simple low tech complete solution, thats unattainable.
231   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:57pm  

Maybe if we make pelosi and trump hate masks we could get everybody on board, happy and healthy.
232   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 6:59pm  

One masks up now, so they can live later.
Onvacation says
No more sports. No more concerts. No more school.
Life is dangerous. Those afraid of living should mask up and self quarantine. It's for your own good.
233   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 7:00pm  

MrEd says
Yeah usually it's blue #7 or Red#9
Onvacation says
Very few children have dyed from covid-19.

Exactly!
234   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 7:01pm  

You can't assemble and pray outside wearing a mask 6 feet apart? Why not?
Onvacation says
MrEd says
Still waiting for your constitutional infringement sentence.
Do you have anything?

Religion and peaceable assembly.
235   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 7:02pm  

Sounds like you're on the sinking titanic.
OnVacation says
No more sports. No more concerts. No more school.
236   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 7:05pm  

MrEd says
You can't assemble and pray outside wearing a mask 6 feet apart? Why not?

You can't riot 6 feet apart? Why not?
237   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 7:11pm  

Not the feds. Thats MLB
Onvacation says

MrEd says
You can't assemble and pray outside wearing a mask 6 feet apart? Why not?

You can't riot 6 feet apart? Why not?
238   MrEd   2020 Jul 26, 7:13pm  

Outdoors seated in one spot for an hour vs outside moving for hours
Stationary position can keep you in the infected cloud long enough to get a megadose your immune system can't tamp down.
Onvacation says
MrEd says
You can't assemble and pray outside wearing a mask 6 feet apart? Why not?

You can't riot 6 feet apart? Why not?
239   Onvacation   2020 Jul 26, 7:19pm  

MrEd says
get a megadose your immune system can't tamp down.

Like snorting anthrax?
240   SoTex   2020 Jul 26, 9:42pm  

MrEd says
Try to keep up.


I'm laughing at you because I'm looking back at the people playing you for a fool. You're comments to people above me are like a kid: I know you are so what am I?

Moral of the story: Don't huff anthrax from plastic bags!

Who would have thought?

I guess my molecular biology, biochemistry and bioinformatics background is just plain worthless. You sure out science'd me and the rest on here!

The ironic thing is I have covid for the 2nd damn time despite wearing an N95 mask during my very infrequent trips out, the hand washing, quarantining of mail, washing of items from the store and other typical semi-germophobe tendencies. Maybe my mask was defective!? Yeah, that's it! Or maybe I sleep walk and lick public toilets when doing so.

I have a mild form of cystic fibrosis as well. That's a concerning co-morbidity for a respiratory virus. I'm mid-40s and fine.

If you don't want 'a' virus wear a positive pressure suit.
241   Onvacation   2020 Jul 27, 4:57am  

just_adhom_preaching says

If you don't want 'a' virus wear a positive pressure suit.

Airborne viruses can enter through your eyes. Short of spacesuits or complete lockdown, including "essential" workers, this virus, like all viruses before it, will run its course. That was the whole idea behind "flattening the curve".

Now they want us to mask until all viruses are eliminated from the world; Idiots.
242   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:01am  

You are a person unable to comprehend an extreme example offered to drive home the point of the value of wearing a mask.
Most likely you cannot separate politics from biologics and adhere to mask denial as a way of supporting trump and, dare i say it, are addicted to Virtue Signalling your republican purity.
You, however, are not a fool. But portraying others as such only serves to confirm your unintentioned admittance that you've run out of legitimate debate ammo and must resort to personal attacks in a desperate attempt to maintain your patrick.net street cred.
It's ok, your not the first to tred down this path.
just_adhom_preaching says
I'm laughing at you because I'm looking back at the people playing you for a fool. You're comments to people above me are like a kid: I know you are so what am I?
243   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:04am  

On an anonomous internet thread yes you are correct.
Thanks for playing
just_adhom_preaching says
I guess my molecular biology, biochemistry and bioinformatics background is just plain worthless.
244   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:07am  

Assumption is the mother of all fuckups.
Be careful!
just_adhom_preaching says
You're comments to people above me are like a kid: I know you are
245   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:08am  

Your politics are affecting your medical evaluations.
just_adhom_preaching says
Moral of the story: Don't huff anthrax from plastic bags!
246   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:11am  

And maybe you are just making it up to support your position .
On an anonomous internet forum it's usually best to treat unverifible posts as bullshit until proven otherwise.
just_adhom_preaching says
The ironic thing is I have covid for the 2nd damn time despite wearing an N95 mask during my very infrequent trips out, the hand washing, quarantining of mail, washing of items from the store and other typical semi-germophobe tendencies. Maybe my mask was defective!?
247   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:12am  

Otoh, here is something that is actually verifiable.
www.youtube.com/embed/RkB0k81oNiI
248   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:17am  

Yes.
Onvacation says
MrEd says
get a megadose your immune system can't tamp down.

Like snorting anthrax?
249   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:20am  

Covid19 entering through the eyes, is not proven but is definitely worrisome. I have no idea of this risk versus virus entering through nose or mouth.
Any links offering more info on this would be appreciated.
Onvacation says
Airborne viruses can enter through your eyes. Short of spacesuits or complete lockdown, including "essential" workers, this virus, like all viruses before it, will run its course. That was the whole idea behind "flattening the curve".
250   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 6:23am  

If the virus eye entrance turns out to be true we must support everyone wearing goggles, under penalty of public shaming.
251   Onvacation   2020 Jul 27, 7:21am  

MrEd says
If the virus eye entrance turns out to be true we must support everyone wearing goggles, under penalty of public shaming.

How about a burka with sunglasses? Ridiculous? Yes.

The whole point of this thread is that we were originally going to shelter in place for two weeks to flatten the curve to spread out the MILLIONS WHO WERE GOING TO DIE! That has now morphed into "wear your mask until the covid-19 cold does not infect any more people."

Can you reconcile these two extreme views?

Not expecting a cogent answer.
252   RWSGFY   2020 Jul 27, 7:45am  

MrEd says
If the virus eye entrance turns out to be true


It won't. Enough with this bullshit already.
253   Onvacation   2020 Jul 27, 7:55am  

Never before have we tested so many people for the seasonal flu/ cold. If we had we would probably find similar results, many asymptomatic and lite symptom positive cases who quickly recover and relatively few deaths, most with comorbidities.
254   mell   2020 Jul 27, 9:12am  

MrEd says
If the virus eye entrance turns out to be true we must support everyone wearing goggles, under penalty of public shaming.


Now you're trolling lol
255   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 27, 11:16am  

MrEd says
If the virus ass entrance turns out to be true we must support everyone wearing buttplugs, under penalty of public shaming.


FIFY
256   prodigy   2020 Jul 27, 11:20am  

Why not just hold your shit until the dilemma is over??
Eric Holder says
MrEd says
If the virus ass entrance turns out to be true we must support everyone wearing buttplugs, under penalty of public shaming.


FIFY

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