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Flatten the Curve


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2020 Jul 15, 3:31am   36,296 views  720 comments

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As the numbers of cases, hospitalizations, and deaths surge to record levels in multiple epicenters, local and state officials are struggling with whether and how much to reverse the rollback of restrictions on individuals and businesses. For example, following a gradual reopening over about a month, on Monday, California Gov. Gavin Newsom announced the reintroduction of statewide restrictions that would again shut down bars, all indoor dining, family entertainment, zoos and museums following a surge in coronavirus cases. The governors of Florida, Texas, and Arizona, all now epicenters of infection, have also slowed or reversed reopening, but their actions have been tepid. Florida Governor Ron DeSantis is even insisting on opening schools in the face of record-high numbers of infections.

These officials would do well to recall the observation of The Great One. No, not Dr. Tony Fauci of the National Institutes of Health—the other one, hockey legend Wayne Gretzky, who once explained, “I skate to where the puck is going to be, not where it has been.”

Anticipating what’s coming is important in confronting an infectious disease, especially one whose dynamics are what many infectious disease experts consider their worst nightmare. COVID-19 is highly infectious, has a lengthy incubation period (during which asymptomatic infected persons can unwittingly shed virus and infect other people), and causes serious, sometimes fatal illness.

Those unusual characteristics of the SARS-CoV-2 virus, which causes COVID-19, and the idiosyncrasies and spectrum of presentations of the illness—from pulmonary symptoms (including pneumonia and pulmonary fibrosis) to a range of non-respiratory manifestations, (including loss of sense of smell or taste, confusion and cognitive impairments, fainting, sudden muscle weakness or paralysis, seizures, ischemic strokes, kidney damage, and, rarely, a severe pediatric inflammatory syndrome) mean that we are on a steep learning curve.

The problem is: if we react too slowly to changing circumstances, we can fall off a metaphorical cliff.

There’s an old brain teaser that perfectly illustrates this point. Consider a pond of a certain size, on which there is a single lily pad. This particular species of lily pad reproduces and duplicates itself once a day, so that on day 2, you have two lily pads. On day 3, you have four; on day 4, you have eight; and so on. Here’s the teaser: if it takes the lily pads 48 days to cover the pond completely, how long will it take for the pond to be covered halfway?

The answer? 47 days. In just 24 hours, between day 47 and day 48, the lily pads would double in size and overtake the pond. Moreover, on day 40, the pond would still appear to be relatively clear; just eight days from the pond being completely covered, you’d hardly know the lily pads were there.

If the same thing happens with a virulent and highly contagious infectious agent, like the SARS-CoV-2 virus, you don’t know you’re in trouble until you wake up one morning to find that you’re overwhelmed. Like the lily pad example, the daily number of confirmed COVID-19 cases in the U.S. was 18,577 on June 15th—just three weeks later, on July 10th, the number had shot up to 66,281.

Dr. Anthony Fauci
Dr. Anthony Fauci

FLATTENING THE CURVE TO BEAT THE IMPENDING CLIFF

From early in the pandemic, the public health mantra worldwide has been: “flatten the curve.” That important concept, which was in vogue several months ago, seems largely forgotten today.

In the above graphic from the University of Michigan, the blue curve is the viral equivalent of the lily pads, suddenly covering the pond. It represents a large number of people (shown on the vertical axis) becoming infected over a short time (horizontal axis), and, in turn, overwhelming our health care system with people who need hospitalization, or even an Intensive Care Unit (ICU).

People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

If, however, political officials, individuals, and communities take steps to slow the virus’s spread, the cases of COVID-19 will stretch out across a more extended period, as depicted by the flatter, yellow curve. As long as the number of cases at any given time doesn’t bleed past the dotted line marking the capacity of our nation’s health care system, we’ll be able to accommodate everyone who is very sick.

Curve-flattening has fallen out of focus in recent months, in part because some political leaders reopened too aggressively and prematurely, basing policy on their constituents’ “pandemic fatigue,” instead of on the advice of epidemiologists and infectious disease experts.

But it’s still critical to avoid the pattern of the blue curve, not only to spare hospitals and ICUs—which are especially under stress in parts of Arizona, Florida, and Texas—but also so that we can continue the gradual reopening of the nation’s businesses and schools. Reopening relies on curve-flattening. As the NIH’s Dr. Tony Fauci says frequently, public health and economic considerations are not in opposition but are opposite sides of the same coin; we can’t fully restart and resume commerce until the pandemic is under some measure of control. People won’t shop for non-essentials, fly, go to restaurants, theaters, and athletic events, or send their kids to school, when numbers of new cases are soaring.

That means we need to start anticipating and stop playing catch-up—as the governors of Florida, Arizona, and Texas have been doing, relying on a combination of magical thinking, Happy Talk, and too-little-too-late remedies, instead of aggressive, evidence-based public health policies.

Arizona Governor Doug Ducey, for instance, has offered no strategy for blunting the spike in COVID-19 cases other than to keep repeating that there were enough hospital beds to treat those who fall ill. And yet, ICU beds and ventilators in use by suspected and confirmed COVID-19 patients in Arizona both hit new records on July 12th and were under stress, according to data reported by hospitals to the state.

On July 10th, a physicians group gathered outside Florida Governor DeSantis’s mansion in Tallahassee to urge him to issue an order mandating the use of face masks statewide, which arguably should have been done months ago. Masks have long been considered essential to slowing the spread of COVID-19, but, inexplicably, the Governor resisted. And only on July 10th did Texas Governor Greg Abbott finally mandate the wearing of face masks, and demand the prohibition of large gatherings and the closing of bars across the state.

Elected officials must heed Wayne Gretzky’s admonition and stay ahead of the coronavirus, in order to lower its rate of transmission. That’s the only way to slow the rise of new cases.

Evidence-based policies, such as requiring masks in public, prohibiting large indoor gatherings, and indoor dining at restaurants, are important. But as we’ve seen with California, even aggressive imposition of those kinds of strictures has not been sufficient—in large part because many people, especially younger ones, have failed to comply. As California allowed businesses and public places to reopen, bars, boardwalks, and beaches became crowded with large numbers of maskless patrons. It’s no wonder, then, that as of July 13th, hospitals in the state reported a 27.8% increase in hospitalized patients over the previous 14 days and a 19.9% increase in ICU patients over that same period. In fact, as a result of noncompliance, many local governments in the Golden State have had to coordinate with law enforcement agencies to issue citations and explore civil alternatives through code enforcement, environmental health, or other local government personnel.

Of course, the need for heightened consequences for noncompliance is unfortunate, but it will help to re-flatten the curve. That will spread out the demands on hospitals, which must have sufficient space, supplies, and healthy staff to care for all those who need hospital-level care—whether for COVID-19, a stroke, trauma, emergency surgery, or childbirth. It’s strong, but necessary, medicine—which possibly could have been avoided with more intense efforts to get the public to comply with wearing masks, social distancing, and frequent hand-washing.

If politicians properly understood their role in flattening the curve, they wouldn’t have to resort to policing and ticketing. They would instead launch a tsunami of public service announcements from all manner of dignitaries and celebrities, including prominent politicians, actors, rock stars, and athletes—maybe even The Great One himself—demonstrating how we can anticipate instead of falling behind the curve.

That non-coercive strategy could be a winner.


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Written By
Henry I. Miller, M.S., M.D.
Henry I. Miller, a physician and molecular biologist, is a Senior Fellow at the Pacific Research Institute. He was the founding director of the FDA’s Office of Biotechnology.


https://humanevents.com/2020/07/14/flattening-the-curve-is-still-the-right-answer/

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297   RWSGFY   2020 Jul 27, 2:08pm  

prodigy says
Why did you not copy the link?


What's the point of copying the whole post when there is a link to it in the "blockquote" section?
298   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 9:08pm  

So one opinion for, and zero against.
Can you calculate who's ahead?

FuckCCP89 says
prodigy says
So the date is late may. Any other links that disprove the eye as a virus entry point?


Any peer-reviewed studies proving it yet? It has been 2 months already.
299   Onvacation   2020 Jul 27, 9:10pm  

MrEd says
So one opinion for, and zero against.
Can you calculate who's ahead?

Certainly not the American people.
300   MrEd   2020 Jul 27, 9:11pm  

LOL assert some bullshit and declare a post was altered, all in an effort to save face.
Are you chynese?

just_adhom_preaching says
MrEd says
You’re is a contraction of the phrase you are. Easy enough to remember. Here’s how it looks in a few sentences:


MrEd says
You do realize how bad this makes you look.
What degrees did you say you had? ROTFLOL


It was the several posts above that which you have now apparently edited you lying horse face doggy soldier.
301   RWSGFY   2020 Jul 28, 4:25am  

MrEd says
So one opinion for, and zero against.
Can you calculate who's ahead?


Wear your buttplug proudly then.
304   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 9:16am  

How about offering a rebuttal link instead of throwing insults?
I'd like to read an opposing link to balance the argument.
FuckCCP89 says
MrEd says
So one opinion for, and zero against.
Can you calculate who's ahead?


Wear your buttplug proudly then.
305   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jul 28, 9:56am  

Piece of the Whitecoat Interview:

Won't be long until Leftists demand Cloudfare, etc. take down bitchute:

https://www.bitchute.com/video/HeC0tHZDX7dk/
306   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Jul 28, 10:02am  

Quinnipac - one of the worst polls - oversampled Dems by 8 points. Additionally, it's almost certainly registered voters/all adults. If you didn't vote in 2016, you're highly unlikely to vote in 2020 either. Likely voters the only voters that matter.

This is all push poling. Nobody is excited for Biden, Trump supporters are more enthusiastic than ever, and of course the Media is colluding with Biden hiding in his basement.

Biden has serious troubles with very short, very friendly interviews and barely survived the debates. He only won the primary by having the frontrunners drop out hours before Super Tuesday, with Klobuchar strangely just before winning Minnesota, her home state. At least she would have stayed in to demonstrate her political prowess for the benefit of internal influence in the Dem Party - but she was told, with Buttigieg, to get out.

Too bad there is no physical Dem Convention, or it would make 1968 look pacific.
307   Onvacation   2020 Jul 28, 10:14am  

prodigy says
How about offering a rebuttal link instead of throwing insults?
I'd like to read an opposing link to balance the argument.

Rebuttal? He offered a butt plug? What else do you want?
308   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 10:26am  

A cogent answer?

Onvacation says
prodigy says
How about offering a rebuttal link instead of throwing insults?
I'd like to read an opposing link to balance the argument.

Rebuttal? He offered a butt plug? What else do you want?
309   Onvacation   2020 Jul 28, 10:31am  

The death rate has fallen flat. The unemployment curve is what needs flattening

Why are we still on lockdown?
310   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 10:35am  

prodigy says
How about offering a rebuttal link


If there is no peer-reviewed study establishing eye route for infection how can there be a link to it? Unless you accept /dev/null as such.
311   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 10:43am  

If there is no peer reviewed study showing the eye as an entry point for covid 19 infection, then how about another opposing opinion?
Something, anything rebutting the opinion in question.

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
How about offering a rebuttal link


If there is no peer-reviewed study establishing eye route for infection how can there be a link to it? Unless you accept /dev/null as such.
312   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 10:47am  

Looks like an upward trend to me.

Onvacation says
The death rate has fallen flat. The unemployment curve is what needs flattening
313   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 10:48am  

prodigy says
If there is no peer reviewed study showing the eye as an entry point for covid 19 infection, then how about another opposing opinion?


Your demands make no sense. If certain hypotesis has no scientific proof it is false until such proof is obtained.
314   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 11:06am  

What is the harm of asking ( not demanding ) an opposing opinion so the merits of each opinion can be discussed?

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
If there is no peer reviewed study showing the eye as an entry point for covid 19 infection, then how about another opposing opinion?


Your demands make no sense. If certain hypotesis has no scientific proof it is false until such proof is obtained.
315   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 11:09am  

prodigy says
What is the harm of asking ( not demanding ) an opposing opinion so the merits of each opinion can be discussed?

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
If there is no peer reviewed study showing the eye as an entry point for covid 19 infection, then how about another opposing opinion?


Your demands make no sense. If certain hypotesis has no scientific proof it is false until such proof is obtained.


WTF? The opinion stated above is not enough? Here it is again: "eye route is bullshit because it has not been proven via proper scientific methods".
316   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 11:18am  

That's your opinion.
I'm talking about another opinion from a verified doctor, to oppose the original opinion from a verified doctor.

Eric Holder says
WTF? The opinion stated above is not enough? Here it is again: "eye route is bullshit because it has not been proven via proper scientific methods".
317   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 11:21am  

prodigy says
That's your opinion.
I'm talking about another opinion from a verified doctor, to oppose the original opinion from a verified doctor.


So scientific method is out of fashion now? Nice to know.
318   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 11:30am  

Scientific method is initiated based on opinions.
For starters, one forms an opinion that testing medicine A on malady B might be worth initiating a trial.
With enough supporting opinions a trial based on the scientific method is initiated.

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
That's your opinion.
I'm talking about another opinion from a verified doctor, to oppose the original opinion from a verified doctor.


So scientific method is out of fashion now? Nice to know.
319   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 11:36am  

prodigy says
Scientific method is initiated based on opinions.


Are you saying that there are not enough opinions that eyes are the gateway for the virus to even warrant a scientific study? Doesn't it undermine it even fucking further?

You're grasping for straws and we both know it.
320   Onvacation   2020 Jul 28, 12:17pm  

Eric Holder says
You're grasping for straws and we both know it.

I don't think he does.

Their are at least two sides to this horrible mess. One says it's a horrible pandemic that warrants the cost of trillions of dollars, millions of lifes ruined, tens of thousands of businesses closed forever, and fascistic new rules placed on the population. The other side thinks it's a bad cold.

Confirmation bias can be found on the Internet by both sides.
321   Onvacation   2020 Jul 28, 12:21pm  

We can civilly debate each other and use facts and evidence to back our OPINION. I think it is important that we keep an open mind to the other side.

It's my opinion that covid-19 is a really bad cold and the government is severely overreacting.
322   prodigy   2020 Jul 28, 12:28pm  

I'm saying I would like to read an opposing opinion from someone that has the same or better credentials than the doctor who posted the original opinion.
Not trying to prove or disprove anything. Trying to gather evidence.

Eric Holder says
prodigy says
Scientific method is initiated based on opinions.


Are you saying that there are not enough opinions that eyes are the gateway for the virus to even warrant a scientific study? Doesn't it undermine it even fucking further?

You're grasping for straws and we both know it.
323   Eric Holder   2020 Jul 28, 12:53pm  

prodigy says
I'm saying I would like to read an opposing opinion from someone that has the same or better credentials than the doctor who posted the original opinion.
Not trying to prove or disprove anything. Trying to gather evidence.
\

Google is youre friend. You aren't banned there, are you?
324   Onvacation   2020 Jul 28, 1:04pm  

prodigy says
So you know more than "webMD.com"?

"How the Infection Spreads
The new coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2, gets passed on primarily through droplets from a cough or a sneeze. These particles most often enter through your nose or mouth as well as your eyes. "
https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/covid-19-and-your-eyes#1

No studies but a lot of conjecture.

NBC News contributor never had COVID

This illustration provided by the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention in January 2020 shows the 2019 Novel Coronavirus (2019-nCoV). This virus was identified as the cause of an outbreak of respiratory illness first detected in Wuhan, China. (CDC via AP)
By MICHAEL GRAHAM |
PUBLISHED: July 14, 2020 at 1:10 a.m. | UPDATED: July 14, 2020 at 1:11 a.m.
A frightening NBC News report that a medical contributor caught COVID-19 through his eyes while simply sitting on an airplane has been debunked by multiple tests results. Unfortunately, the network has yet to correct the story.

In May, NBC medical contributor Joseph Fair, a self-styled “virus hunter,” told the Today Show about his experience with the virus. “If it can take me down, it can take down anybody,” he said.

According to Fair, he caught the virus on a commercial flight out of New Orleans. “I had a mask on, I had gloves on, I did my normal wipes routine… but obviously, you can still get it through your eyes,” Fair told the Today Show from his hospital bed. “And, of course, I wasn’t wearing goggles on the flight.”

"I don’t have any of those underlying conditions, I’m 42 years old. So you wouldn’t think, clinically, that I would be one of those people that would get so very ill,” Fair said, adding: “Those people that are young and think they’re invincible or people that just don’t think it’s going to affect them that greatly even if they do get it. I can say that my own experience was the complete opposite.”

What Fair, Todd and NBC News didn’t tell the audience is that before he made this claim, Fair had already tested negative for COVID-19 at least five times. Fair followed that up with an antibody test to detect if he’d ever had the virus. The results were negative.

But it wasn’t until July 7, nearly two months after his initial appearance, that both Fair and NBC revealed the results of his antibody test. Fair now claims his illness “remains an undiagnosed mystery.”

Not only was Fair’s suggestion that he caught the virus through his eyes pure speculation (and in the view of some medical professionals, irresponsible to boot), but his COVID infection has been repeatedly debunked. And still NBC News has yet to take the incorrect report of his “coronavirus infection” off their website.

If you could get covid through your eyes a lot of essential liquor and cannabis store employees would be droppin'.

https://www.sentinelandenterprise.com/2020/07/14/nbc-news-contributor-never-had-covid/
327   prodigy   2020 Jul 30, 10:19am  

one anecdote vs WEBMD.
Hmmm.

Onvacation says
No studies but a lot of conjecture.

href="/post/1333874&320#comment-1690936">Onvacation says

prodigy says
So you know more than "webMD.com"?

"How the Infection Spreads
The new coronavirus, named SARS-CoV-2, gets passed on primarily through droplets from a cough or a sneeze. These particles most often enter through your nose or mouth as well as your eyes. "
https://www.webmd.com/eye-health/covid-19-and-your-eyes#1
328   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 10:21am  

prodigy says
one anecdote vs WEBMD.
Hmmm

Remind me what we were debating about?
329   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 10:22am  

Oh yeah, can you get covid through the eyes?
330   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 10:23am  

And are masks effective?
331   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 10:29am  

And how did we morph from we must shut down the economy for two weeks or the hospitals were going to be overwhelmed by THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE REGARDLESS, to the new normal where schools, sports, restaurants, etc. (but not liquor or cannabis stores and Floyd riots) were shut down and masks, and maybe goggles and butt plugs, MUST BE WORN?
332   prodigy   2020 Jul 30, 10:35am  

remind me what we are debating about...
333   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 10:50am  

prodigy says
remind me what we are debating about...

Butt plugs and goggles.
334   prodigy   2020 Jul 30, 11:15am  

oh, that's why i left.
335   RWSGFY   2020 Jul 30, 11:42am  

prodigy says
remind me what we are debating about...


The lack of scientific proof wrt eyes being a gate for covid infection?
336   Onvacation   2020 Jul 30, 12:14pm  

prodigy says
, that's why i left.

Thanks for playing.

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