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The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell saysThe only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa
prodigy saysResorting to personal attacks is basically admitting you have run out of evidence to back up your assertions.
No. Now you need to try and keep up with what just happened: I basically wiped floor with your and your weak sause political bullshit by pointing to a real scientific study.
Now go and fuck yourself again.
prodigy saysThe problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell saysThe only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa
That can be said for many dangerous viruses going around anywhere in the world and if you combine all the casualties from other acquired infections they eclipse covid.
A virus just as bad or worse burns through the population on a regular basis. What is different about covid-19?
prodigy saysRemember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.
So you're back to everyone being locked down.
Well I'm open to whatever works.
This isn't a political issue for me.
Onvacation saysprodigy saysRemember, one can have no symptoms and still carry and pass the virus.
So you're back to everyone being locked down.
The problem is with people that may have high viral loads but never show any symptoms.
mell saysThe only true fact is that nobody knows when someone is most contagious, but it is either once they show symptoms or just shortly before because you need a high viral load to show inflammatory symptoms and vice versa
What Sweden does is working. No economic shutdown and comparable mortality.
Swedish mortality rate is way above average
I think we will be seeing negative ramifications for years to come. The BLM riots are just one of many ramifications.
And as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.
prodigy saysAnd as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.
Minority of rioters? Lol. Haven't heard that one yet.
Well one sees what one wants to see.
google the pictures.
WookieMan saysprodigy saysAnd as with any public protest, the minority of rioters take advantage of it.
Minority of rioters? Lol. Haven't heard that one yet.
Rioters are rioters. There's no minority was the point. Public protests and rioters are completely different things. Rioters cannot be a minority of public protest. They are rioters.
Seriously?
protests consist of peaceful people ( usually the majority ), and people that cause physical destruction of property and attack law enforcement ( usually the minority )
I know this. You know this. Your post is just disingenuous
So aren't all the "peaceful" protesters being disingenuous going around claiming that America has a systemic racism and police brutality problem?
Only an infinitesimally small percent of black people killed each year is done by cops.
Isn't it disingenuous to claim the major reason why the African American community is so dysfunctional is due to cops and not generations of black boys running around with no fathers?
Seriously?
protests consist of peaceful people ( usually the majority ), and people that cause physical destruction of property and attack law enforcement ( usually the minority )
I know this. You know this. Your post is just disingenuous.
WookieMan saysRioters are rioters. There's no minority was the point. Public protests and rioters are completely different things. Rioters cannot be a minority of public protest. They are rioters.
I think what is unknown is how much viral load one needs to pass on the virus.
Covid 19 is much more contagious than your average run of the mill virus.
The WHO is covering their ass by saying 'there is more study needed to determine if an asymptomatic person who never develops symptoms can still pass on the virus'
It is a NOVEL virus, so nothing is written in stone yet...
prodigy saysI think what is unknown is how much viral load one needs to pass on the virus.
Why do you think that?
prodigy saysCovid 19 is much more contagious than your average run of the mill virus.
How do you know?
prodigy saysThe WHO is covering their ass by saying 'there is more study needed to determine if an asymptomatic person who never develops symptoms can still pass on the virus'
So they don't know.
prodigy saysIt is a NOVEL virus, so nothing is written in stone yet...
So nobody knows.
What we do know is that we were told to lockdown for two weeks so we don't overwhelm the hospitals with THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE! This has morphed into a new normal that benefits nobody but the owners.
It's clear that many people are willfully ignorant or scared stupid.
Opinions are being formed and updated as new data flows in on the N.O.V.E.L Corona Virus.
And in the USA, millions did not die.
See? It worked...
Onvacation saysWhat we do know is that we were told to lockdown for two weeks so we don't overwhelm the hospitals with THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE! This has morphed into a new normal that benefits nobody but the owners.
It's clear that many people are willfully ignorant or scared stupid.
Swedish mortality rate is way above average
PeopleUnited saysWhat Sweden does is working. No economic shutdown and comparable mortality.
prodigy saysAnd in the USA, millions did not die.
See? It worked...
Onvacation saysWhat we do know is that we were told to lockdown for two weeks so we don't overwhelm the hospitals with THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE! This has morphed into a new normal that benefits nobody but the owners.
It's clear that many people are willfully ignorant or scared stupid.
No. Millions WERE going to die.
prodigy saysAnd in the USA, millions did not die.
See? It worked...
Onvacation saysWhat we do know is that we were told to lockdown for two weeks so we don't overwhelm the hospitals with THE MILLIONS THAT WERE GOING TO DIE! This has morphed into a new normal that benefits nobody but the owners.
It's clear that many people are willfully ignorant or scared stupid.
No. Millions WERE going to die. We shut down for two weeks to STOP HOSPITALS FROM BEING OVERWHELMED BY THE MILLIONS DYING AT THE SAME TIME. They called it "flattening the curve ". By coincidence it started right after TRUMPS FOREVER IMPEACHMENT.
Be smarter. They don’t have the same level of testing we do. Because of the lack of lockdowns it is probable that a higher percentage of their population has gotten infected and never knew it, therefore the data is under reporting cases. What matters in the end is fatalities per 100,000 population.
https://www.statista.com/statistics/1104709/coronavirus-deaths-worldwide-per-million-inhabitants/
In that regard Sweden is already looking good only about 100 deaths per million population different than us, and remember their population has likely already been exposed to the virus whereas here in USA most people have NOT yet been exposed.
Sweden 110 more deaths per million than USA.
So much for the effect of herd immunity...
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