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Finally! ICE Going after the Employers of Illegal Aliens

By Patrick follow Patrick   2020 Aug 11, 10:05pm 464 views   9 comments   watch   nsfw   quote   share      


https://www.nationalreview.com/corner/going-after-the-employers-of-illegal-aliens/

One year ago, ICE raided multiple chicken plants in Mississippi, arresting hundreds of illegal aliens. Dozens of them have been convicted of various federal crimes, such as identity theft and document fraud.

But what about their employers? Simply arresting a bunch of illegals, and leaving it at that, is both unjust and ineffective. Unjust because it lets the other participant in the criminal transaction off the hook, and ineffective because employers can just hire another batch of illegal aliens and essentially write off the disruption as a cost of doing business.

That’s why it was so encouraging that ICE has just announced the first indictments against managers at some of the Mississippi chicken plants. Four people at two of the plants have been charged with a variety of crimes, including harboring illegal aliens, wire fraud, identity theft, and more. All four could potentially spend the rest of their lives in prison.

The reason it took a year to see these indictments (more of which will be forthcoming, I hope) is that, while knowingly employing illegal aliens is illegal, it’s hard to prove because of the word “knowingly.” It takes a long time to build a case that can stick, because there’s a lot of nudge-nudge, wink-wink, say-no-more in the hiring of illegals, providing legal deniability to the companies that employ them. Tysons was acquitted in a 2003 case because, while the lower-level managers were indisputably guilty, top corporate management had enough buffers between it and the button men in the field that it was able to beat the rap.

But by arresting and charging the illegals themselves, prosecutors gain leverage, and are able to offer leniency if the illegal workers rat out their managers. It’s similar to going after a narcotics organization — you want to get the dealers off the street, of course, but you also want to work your way up the chain. We’ll have to see whether this week’s indictments lead to charges against more senior management as well.

We saw this process at work at the Agriprocessors beef plant in Iowa, which was raided by ICE in 2008. Prior to that, state and federal regulators had persistent reports of abuses — related not only to immigration but also to wages, safety, animal cruelty, etc. — but never had enough evidence to act. Only when the ICE raid arrested nearly 400 illegal aliens, about 300 of whom ended up sentenced on felony charges, did the evidence start pouring in. Much of the management was charged with a variety of crimes, including harboring illegal aliens, child labor, ID theft, document fraud, bank fraud, mail fraud, money laundering, and more. Sholom Rubashkin, son of the owner and the plant’s day-to-day boss, was sentenced to 27 years in prison (though, appallingly, a bipartisan push in Congress persuaded President Trump to commute his sentence after serving only about eight years).


This is a clear failure on the part of President Trump. No one should ever be pardoned for employing illegals. @APOCALYPSEFUCKisShostakovitch should like this comment.

But even a few criminal convictions serve as an example. The fact that HR managers are facing decades in prison is sure to be featured prominently in HR newsletters, seminars, training materials, and the like. And, in fact, some meatpackers have taken steps to distance themselves from illegal labor. ...

The single most important step in ensuring that legal status becomes a broadly accepted labor standard (like child labor rules, for instance) is mandatory E-Verify, backed by routine audits and stiff penalties for non-compliance. Backsliding is always possible (as we’ve seen with the lamentable history of worksite immigration enforcement), but the more routinized and embedded it becomes, the harder it will be for some future administration to give the green light to employers to return to hiring illegal aliens.
1   clambo   ignore (5)   2020 Aug 11, 10:29pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

E-Verify would solve the problem completely; if all businesses were required to comply with this system, they would not be able to employ illegals.

Compliance could be in the form of fines per day per illegal employee; a notice could be sent to employers that they had a month to prepare for the inspection, etc.

The image of the faithful Mexican family man picking fruit to support his family back in Mexico is baloney; few Mexicans remain in farm work.

Think about it; millions of illegals are here, yet in the last 30 years have farms seen a quadruple in labor requirements?

No, the illegals start in farm work and leave; others never even start in farm work, just immediately working in restaurants and stores, construction, etc.
2   Misc   ignore (1)   2020 Aug 12, 2:38am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

I think it has more to do with quieting political interference than anything to do with prosecuting those hiring illegals. I thought I read somewhere that these chicken plants were part of Koch industries. Now the Koch brothers were famous for spending huge amounts of coin for political influence. This was primarily to GOPe senators and representatives. They were very libertarian: free trade, open borders, little taxes on the rich. Well, Obama didn't like them because the Republican senate thwarted all the progressive plans he had for America. Then Trump came with his Border Wall/America First agenda. Not only did the Kochs become never Trumpers; they even switched financial support to the Democrats. One of the brothers went so far as to have a heart attack and die after these raids he was so shocked. Nobody's heard a word out of the other brother since the raids. Biden with his anti-oil stance really can't stand the remaining Koch and Trump hates the twerp for going against him.

Knowing the amount of lawyers involved, you gotta be thorough when hunting billionaires.

I think the remaining Koch brother is who the Feds are after.
3   Al_Sharpton_for_President   ignore (5)   2020 Aug 12, 4:13am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

The folks who have lost jobs to illegals are not organized. This includes a disproportionate number of blacks.

And any objections are disarmed by the RACISM! and ANTI-IMMIGRANT! weapons.
4   Booger   ignore (8)   2020 Aug 12, 5:09am     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Finally! ICE Going after the Employers of Illegal Aliens

ERECTION INTENSIFYING!!!
5   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Aug 12, 12:24pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
The folks who have lost jobs to illegals are not organized. This includes a disproportionate number of blacks.


That's a core issue right there.
6   Al_Sharpton_for_President   ignore (5)   2020 Aug 12, 12:38pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Patrick says
That's a core issue right there.
Trump should hammer this home, how Americans, and disproportionately blacks, are screwed by wage lowering and job taking illegals. This message should also include hearing from the survivors of citizens mudered by illegals. And then the reference to record employment of blacks and Spanish Indians under Trump.
7   EBGuy   ignore (1)   2020 Aug 12, 1:10pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

But what about muh $5 rotisserie chicken! Turns out CostCo sourced their highly automated chicken processing plant gear from an OEM in Iceland (where labor is in short supply).
8   FuckCCP89   ignore (5)   2020 Aug 12, 1:28pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

EBGuy says
But what about muh $5 rotisserie chicken! Turns out CostCo sourced their highly automated chicken processing plant gear from an OEM in Iceland (where labor is in short supply).


Noooooooo!
9   Patrick   ignore (1)   2020 Aug 12, 8:46pm     ↓ dislike (0)   quote   flag        

Al_Sharpton_for_President says
Trump should hammer this home, how Americans, and disproportionately blacks, are screwed by wage lowering and job taking illegals. This message should also include hearing from the survivors of citizens murdered by illegals. And then the reference to record employment of blacks and Spanish Indians under Trump.


Absolutely.

I was talking to a black woman at the beginning of the year and said I thought illegals were taking jobs from blacks. She thought so too.

The the families of people murdered by illegals would probably be quite a powerful lobbying force.

It just takes some organization.

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