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2020 Sep 28, 1:38pm   3,420 views  141 comments

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The poisoning of the well is:
https://www.politico.com/news/2020/09/28/why-the-debate-is-crucial-for-trump-and-biden-422319#431

Hunter Biden's whacky deals with Russian Oligarchs, Chinese Communist Officials, and Ukrainian Corrupt Officials = "Going after Biden's Family" nevermind it involves the actions of a 30-40 year old Hunter Biden while his father was in charge of these foreign portfolios under Obama.

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41   MAGA   2020 Sep 29, 6:58pm  

Anyone mention BLM?
42   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 6:59pm  

Trump pretty much did by saying "law and order" over and over.

It's true, Biden will not mention "law and order".
43   ignoreme   2020 Sep 29, 6:59pm  

Wow, Trump just smoked Biden on law and order and CW changed the subject for him.
45   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:02pm  

Even if I didn't like Trump, I'd vote for him solely because he banned government funding for "racial sensitivity training".

That was one of the of the best things Trump ever did. Wonderful!
46   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:05pm  

Woot, Chris Wallace mentioned the BLM terrorists!
47   MAGA   2020 Sep 29, 7:06pm  

Patrick says
Even if I didn't like Trump, I'd vote for him solely because he banned government funding for "racial sensitivity training".

That was one of the of the best things Trump ever did. Wonderful!


The military has plenty of that training for the troops.
48   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:06pm  

That's sad.

The military should teach the troops that we are all just Americans, not divide us by race.
49   mell   2020 Sep 29, 7:07pm  

That was brilliant! Name one law enforcement group supporting you
50   Bitcoin   2020 Sep 29, 7:08pm  

Name one law enforcement group that supports you :)

His answer: we dont have time

lol fuckin lol
51   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:08pm  

Yup, zing!
52   ignoreme   2020 Sep 29, 7:10pm  

Antifa is an idea not an organization! Fuck you
53   clambo   2020 Sep 29, 7:13pm  

Biden said "here's the deal" 3 times I think.
edit: he got to 5
Biden said he will raise taxes on 1. individuals 2. corporations
54   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:15pm  

Now why didn't Trump point out his statement in the "very fine people" hoax, that he "totally condemned" the white supremacists? He said it before and the press edited it out.

He must have calculated that not saying it again helps him somehow, but I don't see how.

The media will no doubt pounce on it, and draw attention to it, but of course they won't quote it all in context, just like the selectively edited the transcript of his comments about Charlottesville.
55   ignoreme   2020 Sep 29, 7:20pm  

Sure wish CW would have followed up on Antifa support with Biden as hard as he’s following up with Trump on Global Warming
56   theoakman   2020 Sep 29, 7:21pm  

Wallace is trying to save Joe by changing the subject whenever Joe starts to punt. But thank god, Trump interrupts to keep it going.
57   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:21pm  

You can't expect fair moderation from the media. But to be honest, I thought it would be worse.
58   ignoreme   2020 Sep 29, 7:22pm  

Next question after grilling trump on global warming. Biden would you like to do a commercial for your energy plan.
59   mell   2020 Sep 29, 7:23pm  

Trump is debating CW and sleepy Joe but that was expected.
60   richwicks   2020 Sep 29, 7:23pm  

This debate is boring. No actual issues brought up.
61   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:24pm  

I think it's useful for people who would not watch Trump normally to get to see him.
62   Patrick   2020 Sep 29, 7:29pm  

I think the important thing is that Trump stood up against 'racial sensitivity' training.

My bet is that the large majority of people are sick of shit like that. They just want to be Americans.
63   mell   2020 Sep 29, 7:30pm  

TrumpingTits says
Patrick says
I think it's useful for people who would not watch Trump normally to get to see him.


Doesn't help for them to see him in the Narrative of their bullshit gaslighting, like 'racial sensitivity' training.


True but it may help to see the bias. He has to debate both
64   mell   2020 Sep 29, 7:46pm  

Media immediately naming Biden the winner but stock futures shot up. Hmmmm
65   GreaterNYCDude   2020 Sep 29, 7:46pm  

Here's my instant anaylisis.

1) Biden did better than I had expected. He looked straight on at the camera and addressed the American people several times. He also did a better job trying to stick to the issues raised.

2) Trump was Trump. No surprise. He did well and kept his composure for the most part.

3) Them talking over each other didn't bother me all that much.

4) I thought Chris Wallace was going to lopse his cool and tell them both to shut the F up at one point.

(All I could think of was... If you two kids can't behave I'm turning this car around.)

5) I hope like heck we have a winner.... this could get ugly. Many states are in a statistical tie as of this morning.

Next one should be just as fun.
66   EBGuy   2020 Sep 29, 7:51pm  

Patrick says
Right! Now why won't Trump tell them to look at the WHOLE transcript so they can see that the "very fine people" hoax is in fact a hoax?

What's truly wild about the transcript is what's in between the "very fine people" and "i'm not talking about" sections. It makes Trump look like Nostradamus after the events of this summer.
www.youtube.com/embed/qV6eGYKKQOo
67   Ceffer   2020 Sep 29, 7:56pm  

20 legacy news outlet declare Biden the decisive winner of the debate!


HAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHA Splurt, Fart, Gasp!

Yeah, right.
68   RC2006   2020 Sep 29, 7:57pm  

We knew who the media would say the winner would be from the get go.
69   krc   2020 Sep 29, 7:59pm  

Patrick says
You can't expect fair moderation from the media. But to be honest, I thought it would be worse.


It was a pretty fair moderation I thought. I was worried from the beginning that people were setting a low bar for Biden. I think he did well given the low expectations with people seriously thinking he had dementia. Really - he has been doing public speaking for 48 years - even if he was in a coma he could debate.

The premise of the questions were of course to Biden's benefit: global warming, race, etc... Nothing on trade, peace in the middle east, etc... Media does set the agenda whether we like it or not. If you don't like it, go get in the arena (which Patrick has done with Patrick.net!).

I know most folks may not like Trump's attack on Hunter Biden, but it goes to a core root of corruption. The "Left" sets the rules yet they violate with impunity and use their status/contacts to preserve their power and wealth.
70   mell   2020 Sep 29, 8:00pm  

Futures now volatile. ZH has a decent summary at https://www.zerohedge.com/political/will-you-shut-man-debate-post-mortem
71   krc   2020 Sep 29, 8:04pm  

Trump is really not a great debater - he is a brawler.
He could have followed up on Biden's response when Biden said he didn't call on Portland to stop the violence. Trump didn't follow up on that or the law enforcement issue very well. Trump was also too impatient. And he went off on tangents instead of selling himself to the people.

Biden stumbled a bit but not enough to be of concern. His supporters will be reassured they are not electing someone without the mental capabilities to do the job.
72   just_passing_through   2020 Sep 29, 8:05pm  

MAGA says
I wonder what Bill and Hillary are doing this evening.


Drinking babies blood.
73   mell   2020 Sep 29, 8:07pm  

Yeah one thing I know though is Pence will smoke Cummala. Pence is an excellent debater. Also it's difficult to go into the psychology of it. What truly matters ate the swing states and Trump did a decent job mentioning them as much as possible and that they should see returned manufacturing, business and stay open.
74   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Sep 29, 8:12pm  

It was a lot of arguing, but yeah both done some dumb things. Biden was better at emotional appeals (although a lot of bullshit), Trump rambled too much on stuff that probably does not matter to an average voters (especially that 100 judges thing).
75   Ceffer   2020 Sep 29, 8:12pm  

I really didn't think Trump was that much of a brawler. He just wouldn't let crap slide at all, since he was debating an opponent and his co-dependant (moderator). If you have ever dealt with co-dependants, you know what a nightmare it can be, so Trump just had to address the foolishness as it arose.

I loved Biden's calling Antifa a 'social construct'. It shows that he can still gaslight instead of just sociopathically lie.
76   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   2020 Sep 29, 8:15pm  

I don't think this debate changed anyones mind in any direction. Biden had a really stupid answer about having a psychologist go with every police call... LOL thats just fairy land stupid.
77   krc   2020 Sep 29, 8:17pm  

Patrick says
I think the important thing is that Trump stood up against 'racial sensitivity' training.

My bet is that the large majority of people are sick of shit like that. They just want to be Americans.



Agree. But he didn't explain "why" very well. Sensitivity training is about creating an "allowed" racism against groups that are considered majority.
78   just_passing_through   2020 Sep 29, 8:17pm  

I thought Trump wasn't at his best and that fuck face biden did better than expected.

I emailed Fox News at: https://help.foxnews.com/hc/en-us/requests/new?ticket_form_id=360000064413

To let them know how shitty Chris is and in fact he's why I canceled cable and don't watch their leftist shit anymore.
79   just_passing_through   2020 Sep 29, 8:18pm  

NancyPelosiHaircut says
LOL thats just fairy land stupid.


hahahahah... I missed that!
80   just_passing_through   2020 Sep 29, 8:20pm  

I have a training coming up in 10 days that from the email sounds like a CRT. I interviewed at a company in SSF yesterday and they basically came out and said they are working up an offer at the end of it. (last of several interviews).

If this motherfucking training is a CRT training I'm going to have a shit load of fun!

I get to stay in SD but I'll likely be up in NorCal quite a bit. Might even overlap with a patnet meetup who the hell knows.

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