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NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

I don’t have time... but I suggest someone do a side by side county by county analysis of a swing state and compare 2016 vs 2020 for anomalies. Overall the samples I’ve done have shown slight gains by Biden even in red counties.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

The fraud was committed in areas least suspect as you state above. The red counties likely have rampant voter fraud. You cheat where you think you're least likely to get caught. Cheating in Philly would be retarded. Some redneck location though, hey it's easy. And it is. Just because the cheating didn't happen where you'd think it would, doesn't mean it didn't happen.

I'll state again, that I'd be fine with Biden. He doesn't hurt me or cause me emotional fuckery like the left. But both parties should be on board with investigating cheating. There's no disputing that.

BoomAndBustCycle says

NoCoupForYou says

Pennsylvania basically adopted a two-method voting system, and this year it's entirely novel.

But Trump did better in Philly even with the mail in ballots which makes your fraud statistic highly suspect! If Philly is so corrupt with fraud... he would have done worse than 2016.

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim, whether Trump did better or not by a few percent doesn't matter if you blow up the total numbers. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out.

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

BoomAndBustCycle says

mell says

You just have to blow up the total votes in a bi-den heavy county, esp. densely populated city where an accurate census is difficult. This is how it was done I don't see anything suspect with that claim. They just now need to dig for evidence of additional votes not belonging to anybody (alive) or double/triple/quadruple-voted.

They need to do in in every county that Trump won 65% or more of the vote also. The numbers of dead voters on either side will cancel out. I actually suspect a lot of double voting in red states. Trump suggested it to the meth heads.

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den, an old white male campaigning from his basement - got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you. Also those counting glitches are pretty much proof for themselves - there should NEVER EVER be a reversal in votes, and NEVER EVER EVER a reversal where the exact same amount is added to the other candidate. Votes are either VALID and COUNTED or INVALID and NOT COUNTED. IF there is a recount or partial recount/audit it is possible some - later deemed invalid - votes are taken away after all have been counted. never on election night.

BoomAndBustCycle says

porkchopexpress says

How do you know that? Did you perform analysis?

No more than any subject in this site is actually analyzed.

lol

mell says

Trump did not magically get 10 million more voters like bi-den did who didn't campaign it all. If there was fraud in red counties, it was at a minimal scale. If you think bi-den got 10MM more votes than Hillary in 2016 then yes, there is no widespread fraud for you.

I just basically did with statistics showing a fairly clear lack of fraud in Philly. Add up the fraud in those Trump counties and it can be a lot when combined. Trump got 10 million more votes than himself in 2016. That’s what happens in record turnout years! Not sure what your trying to prove.

Trump got the most votes in history of a president... 2nd to Biden. He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

There are more registered democrats than republicans in the US... big turnout always hurts republicans.

BoomAndBustCycle says

He did really well... Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Come on dude. 10M+ votes. With Trump getting an additional ~7M votes. Where is almost 20M voters come from? It's not turnout as '16 was more contentious than this year.

It's not rocket science to realize the numbers don't add up this year. That doesn't mean that Trump didn't cheat either FYI. The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Biden just edged him out due to record turnout.

Nothing was proven, I explained that if you blow up the numbers in a county heavily favoring your candidate then you can win the election with a few counties. That is what is being alleged. I will give you that PA had the biggest advantage for Ds in early voting, so it's reasonable to assume the same advantage for most mail-in ballots. But that advantage was blown away percentage wise when the rest of those ballots were allegedly counted overnight. Benford's la simply precludes such a distribution. To me it's clear that WI and MI were stolen (80/20 if not 90/10 chance of Trump win by early voting analysis) when looking at basic math/statistics, PA obstructed the process enough to cast enough doubt over the legitimacy that it needs to be recounted/revoted. It's possible Biden won PA, but not more than a 50/50 chance to me. Nobody is saying there's enough proof yet, but the proof keeps mounting and I'd say there's enough to invalidate the election. I'd favor a whole redo of the election with federal ballots only (watermarked) and stringent ID requirements in place.

WookieMan says

The numbers don't add up though from previous years. Population grows, but 20M people? No chance.

Have we ever had a nationwide lockdown that scared the shit out of and affected everyone in the US? Have we ever had 4 years of a president spewing shot on Twitter everyday? Have we ever had 200 million Americans glued to Facebook arguing daily about politics?

I’m surprised the turnout wasn’t higher!

Record turnout of fraud. Keep in mind that this is on a percentage basis, so don't bother making the argument that "the population grew".

Actually Covid should have made the turnout lower. Plus bi-den not campaigning. Also it's almost completely irrelevant who is at the helm wrt Covid at this point. Presidents have said outrageous shit and bloopers since forever, no reason for record turnout. The majority of the additional record turnout are likely fraudulent mail in ballots. We will have to thoroughly investigate to determine what was fraud and what wasn't and then tally up again.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.seattletimes.com/nation-world/postal-worker-admits-fabricating-allegations-of-ballot-tampering-officials-say/%3famp=1

Already the postal worker is recanting his fraud storylines. Wonder if Richard Hopkins got a nice fat check or just spent too much time on theDonald.win

BoomAndBustCycle says

Already the postal worker is recanting his fraud storylines. Wonder if Richard Hopkins got a nice fat check or just spent too much time on theDonald.win

No he did not.
www.youtube.com/embed/BbcgsJ4BDxc

And now the audio of part of the USPS Interrogation is released; it's clear that the postal inspector wasn't the least interested in investigating the claim, only trying to strongarm Afghan Combat Vet Hopkins into recanting, threatening him that he would cause chaos. In fact, the guy flat out says he came on behalf of "two senators" and others. All behavior from the media and career officials reeks of trying to rush a steal in and then clamp unity over it, make the coup stick early is the best way to gain control.

Back to the election:
If there was record Turnout, why was the Philly vote total in 2020 not much different than 2016? Stories on election day about how cities had lower turnout than normal; that's how Reps flipped two seats in Metro Miami Area. Most other cities were recorded as have lower turnout than normal.

To believe the media narrative, you'd have to think that the hatred of Trump was so great that it caused Record Turnout, but that Deep Dark Blue areas where hate for Trump was supposed to be massive, only voted about the same as 2016.

My guess is that they had to make up for shitty in-person voting in Philly by manufacturing mail-ins, but the real steal was the "Glitches".

In PA we know Jo Jorgenson (L) was 2.3% at one point in the night with tens of thousands of votes, and then a few minutes later she was listed as having half as many votes and back to 1.2% - and Biden got the exact difference she lost. There's video of this somewhere, I think on this very forum.

Since libertarian voters are widely scattered, that this was some kind of tabulation feeding error or something is all but impossible. There would only be about 2 Libertarian votes in a lot of 100. It's not like they could have put them in backwards or something. It HAD to be either a Manual or Algo to move blocks of Libertarian votes to Biden because Libertarians are not found in Blocks like Reps in Rural Areas or Dems in big cities. There's no place in Pennsylvania where libertarian voters are the majority of any precinct, city, or county.

Which is evidence that the algo was assigned to flip votes to Biden when certain threshholds were hit.

NoCoupForYou says

If there was record Turnout, why was the Philly vote total in 2020 not much different than 2016?

Philly was a bit of an anomaly... i think the riots the weekend before the election turned off some voters. Maybe even scared some away from the polls. Other blue cities had larger turnouts than 2016... and EVERY purple county had larger turnouts by 10-20% margin. It’s pretty easy to compare the numbers... if I had time I’d make a spreadsheet. Anyone want to volunteer?

NoCoupForYou says

No he did not.

So Hopkins thinks he overheard someone say they forgot to postmark a ballot for Nov 3rd? That’s all his proof. I think he did recant it.... maybe got nervous, 2nd guessed his own memory. Then, saw his $136k in Gofundme funds go POOF and disappear and backtracked. Oh well, we shall find out soon enough.

BoomAndBustCycle says

nd EVERY purple county had larger turnouts by 10-20% margin.

Purple counties tend to be somewhat larger than rural counties, not remotely as big as the solid blue city counties though. Mine is considered purple, but only has 105k people. You would need a fuck ton of purple counties across the country to come anything close to the turnout we had. 20M more voters..... That's not a logical explanation of turnout.

This election season was very blah. Lots of other distractions. I'm not seeing how that would create more turn out. Biden not campaigning. Hell Trump took a week off with Covid. More and more people have cut the cable. So you choose your programming and you see substantially less political ads and media talking about the election. Anecdotal but there was exponentially less social media push for my peers this election. I know and work in Wisconsin and am slightly familiar with Michigan. Not a chance Biden flipped it.

The other states I don't know or have a feel for. But you're saying the entire state of Florida population wise was extra voters this year? FL and CA would have to vote twice to hit the 20M+ number, our two largest voting states. Mail in voting doesn't explain that either. The numbers don't add up with 330M population and 1/4 eligible voters not even registered and 1/4 of total population being kids. Even record registration and turnout doesn't explain the increase. Turnout out would have had to be 90% of registered voters. That did not happen.

BoomAndBustCycle says

But if you dig into the red counties... Biden performed better than Clinton in most of them... those hundreds to thousands of votes add up over time.

Agree, the fraud was really clever this time. While everyone was looking at the D counties they hacked the voting machines in the red ones.

https://www.pscp.tv/va_shiva/1BdGYYjgkgQGX

ignoreme says

Agree, the fraud was really clever this time. While everyone was looking at the D counties they hacked the voting machines in the red ones.

Yup. Steal or cheat from those that don't believe it will happen to them. My red flag went up when the polling people were people I've never seen or recognized in my community for my in person vote. I keep forgetting to message those guys and ask why they weren't there.

I think that video will click with people here, but it's going to be over the head of most Dems unfortunately.

Really good video ignoreme. Close to finishing it.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Have we ever had a nationwide lockdown that scared the shit out of and affected everyone in the US? Have we ever had 4 years of a president spewing shot on Twitter everyday? Have we ever had 200 million Americans glued to Facebook arguing daily about politics?

Have we ever had an election where EVERYONE is given at least one ballot to turn in?

Onvacation says

Have we ever had an election where EVERYONE is given at least one ballot to turn in?

The thing people ignore with mail in, is that I'd guess anyone 35 and under doesn't even have stamps in their house. They're also not afraid of Covid, so in person is no biggie. Sounds extreme, but us younger people mail literally nothing. Zilch. UPS, USPS, FedEx, etc for returns on shipped items, but we literally don't need postage stamps right now.

35-50 there might be an uptick, but even that demo doesn't mail much. It's mainly older folks that mail stuff and they tend to lean conservative. Trump might rub them the wrong way, so that's a factor. But nothing adds up from this election.

WookieMan says

I think that video will click with people here, but it's going to be over the head of most Dems unfortunately.

It doesn’t matter. All it would take is for one non-corrupt election official or a judge to order a hand recount of all the ballots in one of the counties identified by the video to reveal the scam, the computer can’t change what is written on the paper.

You don’t even need to recount the entire county. A random sample of a few hundred ballots would also prove it.

ignoreme says

You don’t even need to recount the entire county. A random sample of a few hundred ballots would also prove it.

Who gives you the sample? Who is recounting it? How do you verify that it came from the county you're in?

There are a lot of unknowns. I feel like I'm generally unbiased even though it doesn't look like my guy will win. I can live with Biden. I can't live with an election system that is stuck in the 1980's at this point. Voting D or R is traceable to your address already. Not who you voted for, but party. Any of the multiple programmer types on this site could create a secure system in probably 10 hours or less. It's data processing and not complicated. There are mathematically waaaaay more votes than historically and statistically is possible. Mail is could be it, but that benefits both candidates. Nothing adds up.

This isn't about "choosing" to live with Biden. This is about having my vote stolen. This needs to play out completely. With people going to jail for fraud, if found. There have to be severe consequences, or it'll just happen again, and again.

rocketjoe79 says

This isn't about "choosing" to live with Biden. This is about having my vote stolen. This needs to play out completely. With people going to jail for fraud, if found. There have to be severe consequences, or it'll just happen again, and again.

I think it was stolen but nothing will come of it. Eventually the US will become instrument of world order or rotted down to nothing and broken up like Russia. The cancer has spread we are no longer one people, our future generation has been brainwashed, dumbed down, and contaminated.

Sadly, I suspect you're right, maybe for the rest of our lives.

On the other hand, it's never over!

Even Russia seems to have bottomed out and started climbing, economically and culturally.

Even Russia seems to have bottomed out and started climbing, economically and culturally.

Unfortunately, after decades of official atheism under the USSR, they were not able to reform Islam. Islam is a threat to Russia, especially with the ethnic Russians declining birth rate.

How many months has it been since oil traded at a negative $40 per barrel?

Obviously manipulated and a massive fraud occurred.

Over 11000 people have stepped forward according the the RNC to report cases of voter fraud. Does anyone here think for a moment that the FBI or anyone in the Federal government is going to investigate even one reported case of this?

BoomAndBustCycle says

Philly was a bit of an anomaly... i think the riots the weekend before the election turned off some voters. Maybe even scared some away from the polls. Other blue cities had larger turnouts than 2016... and EVERY purple county had larger turnouts by 10-20% margin. It’s pretty easy to compare the numbers... if I had time I’d make a spreadsheet. Anyone want to volunteer?

Here's the problem: In Person turn out was low, but mail in high

Why would riots have stopped people from mailing their ballots in weeks before, or the day before, the riots, etc.? Or during daylight hours?

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porkchopexpress says

BOOOOMMMM
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This is proof enough IMO but who knows how they'll twist it.
Mostly legal voting! lol

They also have Whistleblowers from Dominion.

mell says

This is proof enough IMO but who knows how they'll twist it.

I think the GA hand recount will prove all this. My working theory is some Dominion employee got a little crazy. This stuff is too obvious to think that it’s not going to come out.

Of course it could be another country like China. We don’t notice the fraud Biden gets elected. We notice it, causes huge domestic issues for Trump in his second term.

Mitch already reported no foreign interference. That was by design so the guilty can’t blame another country.