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G36 says

i paid small transaction fees (you call it miner fee).

Do you even know how bitcoin works?

Not expecting a cogent answer.

G36 says

every time i have moved Digital gold (Bitcoin) from an exchange to my Trezor i paid small transaction fees (you call it miner fee).
I love miners.....thanks for mining Bitcoin dear miners! I dont mind if you increase your fees by 10x. Without miners we would not have Bitcoin at 50K and we sure as hell would not have the alt coin market skyrocket because without Bitcoin the Altcoin market would be dead.

Miners for president! Go miners! We love you!

i would actually pay 20x more fees. they are sooo low, that even a 20x wouldnt be noticeable.

peak FOMO

Mining pools should get medal of honors.

You do know that the miners don't get the exchange fees but work for new " coins"? Don'tcha?

The fees are paid by the next greatest fool to the exchanges.

Have you found the next greater fool yet to buy your matchbox car? that you paid 10k for?

Hope you took some profits. It's a long way down.

I havent taken any profits in BTC yet. Simply because we didnt hit 400k yet. Its only at 51k....i agree....it will take a few more weeks to get there.
Cardano, i will probably sell at around $10 bucks....i bought it at an avg of 10 cents.....just like those numbers....from 10 cents to $10 dollars :)

G36 says

I havent taken any profits in BTC

We know.

Onvacation says

G36 says

I havent taken any profits in BTC

We know.

Of course! Why should i have spent my precious digital gold coins at a price of say 40k....when just a few days later its at 50k.....why should i spend my precious coins at 51k if I believe it will go to 400k? Its smart money. Dumb money (Wookieman) will buy my precious digital gold coins when I sell at 400k.

G36 says

Dumb money (

Also known as the greater fool. How do you know it's not you?

if you pull a 3x in BTC and 10x in Cardano in just under 6month, you can call yourself smart money. (G36)

If you buy a matchbox car for 10grand and cant find a greater fool, you can call yourself dumb money. (you might know who I am referring to)

G36 says

if you pull a 3x in BTC and 10x in Cardano in just under 6month, you can call yourself smart money. (G36)

SO,
You are smart money?

You do know ya have to sell to profit, don'tcha?

Onvacation says

G36 says

if you pull a 3x in BTC and 10x in Cardano in just under 6month, you can call yourself smart money. (G36)

SO,
You are smart money?

absolutely. I even bought Bitcoin before Tesla :)

G36 says

I even bought Bitcoin before Tesla

Another great example. Though both are overpriced, Tesla is real. Crypto is bits on a stick that you must find a greater fool to buy. Whereas Tesla is an ongoing business with cars and things.

See the difference?

It's kinda like that overpriced hot wheel car you keep bringing up, it's real. Your bits on a stick, not so real.

Onvacation says

G36 says

I even bought Bitcoin before Tesla

Another great example. .

I know! That's why I am smart money....and you are dumb money for paying 10grand for a matchbox car. You will never find a greater fool to pay you back what you invested. @onvacation

I thought you were older.

Buy the dip!

Onvacation says

Buy the dip!

Always!

Is Bitcoin at risk of another drop below $40K in a historically corrective March?
https://cointelegraph.com/news/is-bitcoin-at-risk-of-another-drop-below-40k-in-a-historically-corrective-march

Bitcoin (BTC) has seen a corrective week as the price dropped from $58,000 to $44,000 in a matter of days. This dropdown caused a panic reaction across the markets as the euphoria was immediately halted.

For instance, the Crypto Fear and Greed Index plunged to monthly lows of 56 after being above 90, or "extreme greed" for an entire month.

However, such a panic reaction is unwarranted because corrections appear frequently in a bull market as a "reset" before continuation. This is organic and healthy and offers a good opportunity for traders and investors to buy the dip.

BUY THE DIP!

It's amusing how these guys talk about support and resistance levels as if it were a stock or something real.

This now paints a clear picture of the critical levels to watch. Ideally, the support zone between $42,500-$44,000 has to hold for further upward momentum. If it fails, further weakness can be expected toward the $37,500-$39,000 level.

But if the $42,500-44,000 support zone holds, higher prices can be expected once Bitcoin breaks above the resistance between $50,000 and $51,000.

Bitcoin is an extremely power hungry speculative investment dependent on the next greater fool (dumb money) in order for the last fool to profit. There is nothing there, no dividends, no capital (all consumed by miners), no store of value, nothing. Now if you have no scruples you can trade and make money but HODLing is unscrupulous and foolish.

Does anyone think all 2,200,000,000,000,000 Satoshi's could ever be sold for a profit?

Beware the scam!

It is what it is.

Onvacation says

It is what it is.

its fascinating:

https://www.investopedia.com/ask/answers/061915/how-does-block-chain-prevent-doublespending-bitcoins.asp#:~:text=The%20blockchain%20which%20undergirds%20a,double%2Dspending%20on%20its%20own.&text=Bitcoin%20was%20the%20first%20major,a%20common%2C%20universal%20ledger%20system

"Bitcoin was the first major digital currency to solve the issue of double spending. It did so by implementing this confirmation mechanism and maintaining a common, universal ledger system. In this way, the bitcoin blockchain retains records of time-stamped transactions going back to the founding of the cryptocurrency in 2009."

Brilliant

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/51-attack.asp

Huh, whats a 51% attack and how often does it occur?

Answer: It never has and never will. Just a hypothetical like aliens arriving on earth.

mmmkay, why do Bitcoin haters mention it?

Answer: Cause they got nothing else left. Especially after Tesla invested 1.5B USD in Bitcoin :)

WookieMan says

https://www.investopedia.com/terms/1/51-attack.asp

Your "digital gold" could be destroyed overnight. What is there not to understand? It's remotely nothing like aliens. China is a country that could overnight shift its electric grid to mining, open up a bunch of warehouses to mine BTC with stolen IP/computer processing, and destroy the market after they've inflated it and stolen billions from the world.

I guess you missed the whole Gamestop fiasco? You're in a speculative and manipulated market. Enjoy the ride. It doesn't end well. Investing in something with zero underlying value or asset is pure stupidity. Trade the highs and lows, but it's not an investment. Not sure how much clearer I can be on that. If you'd just agree to that I'd move on from these threads. But you continually pump and spam the site.

If G ever has anything interesting or useful to say please quote for me. Sadly, he's my only ignore. Complaining to Patrick was the last straw. He don't need that hassle. Patrick's too nice sometimes.

Onvacation says

If G ever has anything interesting or useful to say please quote for me. Sadly, he's my only ignore. Complaining to Patrick was the last straw. He don't need that hassle. Patrick's too nice sometimes.

I'd agree. And maybe I'm causing more drama. But when people here that have actually invested in BTC and can have a conversation about it are ignoring him, that says a lot and is a huge red flag.

I've been on pump and dump sites. The DNA of his posts are identical. 95% of the time those people have no stake in the asset they're talking about and are paid to get referral traffic. The hysterical part is that crypto isn't even an asset. It's nothing. Penny stocks at least have to report. Crypto does nothing backing it and is completely unregulated. The wild west had more rules...

Congratulations to myself and other Bitcoin investors! March 13th is a significant day for us! Bitcoin has passed 60k for the first time in History!

He's a little too much for me. I made a conscious decision to acquire bitcoin in January. I hold gold/silver as an inflation hedge. I've been seeing the stages set for massive inflation through fiat worldwide for the better part of 15 years and it finally looks like it's about to come to fruition over the next 5 years.

What I've seen is that gold, by all indicators, should be higher, but the entire younger generation has instead, opted for crypto. Instead of gold getting a 10% bump in price, that trillion went into bitcoin. I always loved the design and idea but I never took the dip because I figured some other technology would come and make it obsolete, the bitcoin network would somehow be hacked, or the governments would eliminate it. None of that has happened and once Wall street gets their digs in, governments won't ban it, they want their taxes and their bribes and their cut. With respect to Ethereum, I am equally bullish and think that their network and applications have huge potential.

Once I came to those conclusions, I became a believer and a buyer. So, I realize, there is no way to effectively price this, but I figure, if it can replace gold or even grab half of its market share, that it's up 5x from here. Of course I recognize the downside risk and volatility, so I buy a little bit each week. I have no intentions of selling. The goal is to get 5% of my wealth into crypto by the end of the year, which in the grand scheme of things, doesn't break the bank. This is my humble attempt at civil conversation as a bitcoin bull.

Long term, I think the ability to tokenize all kinds of hard assets is going to give us a method to avoid currency depreciation and barter with various tokens instead of dollars. I think, ultimately, this technology is going to reign in the abuses of fiat.

theoakman says

I made a conscious decision to acquire bitcoin in January. I hold gold/silver as an inflation hedge. I've been seeing the stages set for massive inflation through fiat worldwide for the better part of 15 years and it finally looks like it's about to come to fruition over the next 5 years.

Awesome! Congrats @theoakman

theoakman says

Long term, I think the ability to tokenize all kinds of hard assets is going to give us a method to avoid currency depreciation and barter with various tokens instead of dollars. I think, ultimately, this technology is going to reign in the abuses of fiat.

I agree with this to an extent, but BTC is not the coin in my opinion. I won't get into crypto unless it's backed by an asset of some sort. Currently what is backing it is the USD and other fiat currencies. There's really no disputing this. That's why it's pegged to dollars. I also won't get into metals, but there is some value there if that's your jam.

I'm late 30's so I've got a lot of game to play. I also think it will be more beneficial to play the fiat game as I have been very successful in that realm. At the end of the day if life is a game and you want to win, $$$$$$ are what you need. Crypto can be traded to get you there. You can also do a ton of other things that get you more $$$$. If it gets devalued, make more. Not super complicated.

Regardless of recent circumstances the dollar won't become worthless as has been hyped for decades. Yes you may need more to purchase things, but generally that will come with income increases. At the end of the day it's how much you can earn, aka take money from other people. Crypto in my mind is just one way to take money from other people. I'm not willing to give it away. I'll keep doing what has been successful for me. I just think most people are extremely naive to what crypto is. Don't get burned is all I'll say. I'd trade it all day, but I wouldn't hold unless you traded and are playing with house money.

$58 billion has been transferred using bitcoin in the last 24 hours. A lot of ransoms and human traffickers have been paid off.

WookieMan says

theoakman says

Long term, I think the ability to tokenize all kinds of hard assets is going to give us a method to avoid currency depreciation and barter with various tokens instead of dollars. I think, ultimately, this technology is going to reign in the abuses of fiat.

I agree with this to an extent,

me too.
It makes sense for Tesla to invest 1.5B USD and for Microstrategy to invest 5B USD into Bitcoin.
While FIAT depreciates, Bitcoin has increased by 1,000% in the past 12 month

"Bitcoin hit a record $60,000 on Saturday, marking a 1,000% gain in the past year."
https://markets.businessinsider.com/currencies/news/bitcoin-price-surges-record-60000-stimulus-hopes-institutional-support-2021-3-1030188023