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Bitcoin Misinformation


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2020 Nov 10, 10:01am   136,931 views  2,177 comments

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In my opinion, it’s a colossal pump-and-dump scheme, the likes of which the world has never seen. In a pump-and-dump game, promoters “pump” up the price of a security creating a speculative frenzy, then “dump” some of their holdings at artificially high prices. And some cryptocurrencies are pure frauds. Ernst & Young estimates that 10 percent of the money raised for initial coin offerings has been stolen.

The losers are ill-informed buyers caught up in the spiral of greed. The result is a massive transfer of wealth from ordinary families to internet promoters. And “massive” is a massive understatement — 1,500 different cryptocurrencies now register over $300 billion of “value.”

https://www.vox.com/2018/4/24/17275202/bitcoin-scam-cryptocurrency-mining-pump-dump-fraud-ico-value

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676   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 11, 6:28am  

‘Prepare to lose all your money’ — regulator’s blunt warning on bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies

The U.K.’s financial regulator on Monday issued a very blunt warning about the rise of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies.

The warning was prompted by firms “offering investments in cryptoassets, or lending or investments linked to cryptoassets, that promise high returns,” the Financial Conduct Authority said.

The regulator said it had five concerns: Consumer protection, price volatility, product complexity, charges and fees, and marketing materials. “There is no guarantee that cryptoassets can be converted back into cash. Converting a cryptoasset back to cash depends on demand and supply existing in the market,” the regulator said.

The market cap of bitcoin and other cryptocurrencies topped $1 trillion last week, according to CoinDesk. Bitcoin BTCUSD, -13.01% over the last 12 months has gained 330%.

Bitcoin, ethereum ETHUSD, -19.25% and other cryptocurrencies tumbled on Monday, with double-digit percentage declines.
677   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 11, 6:29am  

WookieMan says
Eric Holder says
WookieMan says
Eric Holder says
Blue says
Bitcoin down to 35k at the movement,


Nooooooo!

Wait until is goes to $0 USD ;)


And then back up the truck? =))

Go big or go home. Back up one of these:



Could easily fit a couple hundred thousand flash drives in there for sure.


R u sure bigger ones are not available? Don't want to settle for inferior shit, you know....
678   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 11, 6:52am  

Onvacation says
stick to real stuff

Absolutely! Thats the problem with matchbox cars and physical coins. They take up space, may collect dust and can easily be counterfeited. The Chinese can manufacture those things for a few pennies and you barely can tell a difference to what you think is the original.
With precious digital gold coins (Bitcoin) its different. There is no double-spending and counterfeiting with Bitcoin. Bitcoin is the real deal.
679   Onvacation   2021 Jan 11, 8:10am  

Eric Holder says
“There is no guarantee that cryptoassets can be converted back into cash. Converting a cryptoasset back to cash depends on demand and supply existing in the market,”

Also known as the greater fool theory.
680   Onvacation   2021 Jan 11, 8:11am  

G36 says
They take up space, may collect dust and can easily be counterfeited.

Where as with Ethereum you literally have nothing to lose.
681   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 11, 9:20am  

Onvacation says

with Ethereum you literally have nothing to lose.

Well, there is still some risk. No investment is a sure bet. But your upside potential with Ethereum is enormous! It think it will do great in 2021!
It was only 700 on Dec 28th. Its close to 1k as of now! Wow!
682   Onvacation   2021 Jan 11, 3:05pm  

To summarize so far:
Bitcoin is a scam
It has no store of value.
It consumes all incoming money.
It requires an INCREDIBLE amount of power just to maintain it.
It is not used in transactions.
It is incredibly volatile.
The only way to get your money out is if someone else puts their money in.
It is used to collect ransom, launder money, pay off nefarious characters. (lol)
683   Onvacation   2021 Jan 11, 3:06pm  

If you are in crypto in spite of knowing all of the above you are a gambler that doesn't care about the harm it causes to the environment and the rubes that think it is "digital gold". Or you are the rube.
684   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 11, 3:21pm  

Bitcoin is nothing other than a chain letter or pyramid scheme. It's based on thin air so don't be caught without a chair.
685   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 11, 3:53pm  

Bitcoin haters seem active today. Bitcoin Is up 100% since a month ago :)
We finally corrected today, which was very needed to push this bull market forward in a sustainable way! Its not healthy for Bitcoin to just go up in a straight line.
Smart money has made big investments in Digital Gold (Bitcoin) and retail is coming in hot! Check out those google Bitcoin search trends I have been talking about for a while now!
I am pretty sure the 2017 Bitcoin google trends will soon just be a blip on the chart.

686   Misc   2021 Jan 11, 4:02pm  

Coinbase has over 35 million members. Recently it has been adding over 1 million new members per month. These are not sophisticated investors. The median account size is less than $1000.

While a drop from $40k to $35k per bitcoin is a "nothingburger" to a long term Holdr, for a Starbucks barrista, who cash advanced $4k to buy into Bitcoin at $40k on his credit card; the loss is staggering.

Of course the price could go up from here, Bubbles have a way of expanding far beyond what people think possible.
687   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 11, 4:58pm  

@Misc

That Starbucks barista made out like bandits if he invested left over money from his paycheck in Bitcoin in the recent years! Congrats to that guy!
Bitcoin is up over 12,000,000% over the past 10 years. Depending on when the barista got in, he might be rich!

Coinbase also offers services to institutions not just retail. Rumor has it, Coinbase facilitate the hundreds of million dollar purchase of Bitcoin by Michal Saylors Microstrategies!

Coinbase - for new users (That could be you Misc)
Coinbase Pro - for users like me
Coinbase Prime - Institutions
Coinbase OTC - big fish
688   Onvacation   2021 Jan 11, 5:52pm  

G36 says
Smart money has made big investments in Digital Gold

Want to debate any of the points I made above?
689   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 11, 6:59pm  

Bitcoin is no longer "overbought" on the RSI. Corrections are healthy and needed to shake out weak hands. A lot of people must have panicked today. Why? Dont they know each dip is an opportunity to load up the truck? Just look at the data!

This chart says it all.

690   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 11, 7:13pm  

personal
691   porkchopXpress   2021 Jan 11, 7:28pm  

I knew I had that coming, but my comment was funny as hell. Come on, Patrick...admit it.
692   Onvacation   2021 Jan 13, 9:11am  

So, with all those lost "coins" does it make the market cap go down, or the value of individual coins go up?

Trying to understand the concept of digital gold.
693   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 13, 9:13am  

Onvacation says
So, with all those lost "coins" does it make the market cap go down, or the value of individual coins go up?

Trying to understand the concept of digital gold.


What part of "Big Daddy to the Moon!" don't you understand?
694   Onvacation   2021 Jan 13, 9:38am  

Eric Holder says
"Big Daddy to the Moon!"

Do you DENY the coming asymptote of riches?
695   Onvacation   2021 Jan 13, 9:38am  

Onvacation says
So, with all those lost "coins" does it make the market cap go down, or the value of individual coins go up?

Not expecting a cogent answer.
696   Eric Holder   2021 Jan 13, 9:43am  

Onvacation says
Eric Holder says
"Big Daddy to the Moon!"

Do you DENY the coming asymptote of riches?


I wouldn't dare.
697   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 13, 9:49am  

Smart choice! You dont want to short Bitcoin in a bull market :) 2021 will be fun (for BTC holders).
All you gotta do it focus on the big picture.
698   Onvacation   2021 Jan 13, 4:42pm  



Is bitcoin gay?

Not that there is anything wrong with that.
699   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 13, 5:16pm  

Onvacation says


Is bitcoin



at 40k?

no, its still at 37k.

700   Onvacation   2021 Jan 14, 9:20am  

G36 says
at 40k?

no, its still at 37k.

Moon shot coming. Don't deny the asymptote!
701   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 9:43am  

Onvacation says
G36 says
at 40k?

no, its still at 37k.

Moon shot coming. Don't deny the asymptote!


Agreed! Dont short Bitcoin in a bull market! Dollar cost average and in the rare scenario of a dip....BUY!
702   Onvacation   2021 Jan 14, 9:47am  

G36 says
the rare scenario of a dip

Rare?
703   WookieMan   2021 Jan 14, 10:02am  

lol. And this isn't trolling? The typing contradiction continues as usual on a political and housing forum. Can't take the heat... says a lot.
704   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 10:03am  

Eric Holder says
WookieMan says
Bitcoin down to 35k at the movement,

And then back up the truck?
Go big or go home. Back up one of these:





@WookieMan,
I could not agree more. Jan 11th was a great opportunity to buy! In a bull market those opportunities are rare. Look how quickly the price recovered! Back up the truck on dips!
705   Onvacation   2021 Jan 14, 10:09am  

WookieMan says
And this isn't trolling?


I never claimed to not be a troll.

"It's all Bullshit. You just have to believe in your own bullshit".
Old saying that my brother or I made up, can't remember which.

I believe G thinks Bitcoin is "digital gold" I believe it is a scam. Bitcoin is highly volatile with 20% swings in single days. It's double fiat; once because it is valuable because SOME people think it is twice because it's value is based on the value of fiat money.
706   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 10:10am  

small correction,
G >knows< Bitcoin is digital gold.
707   Onvacation   2021 Jan 14, 10:12am  

G36 says
small correction,
G >knows< Bitcoin is digital gold.

Why?

Not expecting a cogent answer and please don't repost your silly chart.
708   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 10:28am  

Onvacation says
G36 says
small correction,
G >knows< Bitcoin is digital gold.

Why?



The traits of money show Bitcoin has many advantages over gold and FIAT.
709   WookieMan   2021 Jan 14, 10:31am  

G36 says
The traits of money show Bitcoin has many advantages over gold and FIAT.

This never ends. You use FIAT to buy gold or crypto. By default it is disadvantaged out the gate. If we ever enter a time where you need gold for goods and supplies or crypto to do the same, you've got bigger problems. Guns and ammo would have been the better investment.
710   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 10:33am  

@WookieMan
Thanks! Another good reason to buy crypto. You can buy a lot of ammo and guns with crypto gains. Just be prepared (to buy the dips) and buy ammo/guns when you take profits!
If you would keep your money in cash, you cant buy as much ammo and guns. cash doesn't appreciate 2x in 2 months :) My Bitcoin did!
711   WookieMan   2021 Jan 14, 11:16am  

G36 says
ou can buy a lot of ammo and guns with crypto gains.

You can also buy it with gains and income in tons of other areas. You don't know that though.
712   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 11:34am  

WookieMan says
G36 says
ou can buy a lot of ammo and guns with crypto gains.

buy it with gains


Absolutely @WookieMan
Bitcoin has been the absolute best performer by far. We agree.
713   Onvacation   2021 Jan 14, 1:55pm  

G36 says
when you take profits!

Not counting paper gains, how much have you actually profited from bitcoin? Was it this or last year's taxable event?
714   Bitcoin   2021 Jan 14, 2:24pm  

@Onvacation,
I am up over 2x on Bitcoin alone (see my screenshots). In just 2-3Month! Once I start selling,I will make sure I brag about it.

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