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So it’s a stable form of civilization.
Big deal. What’s it given the world? 40,000 years and we got some numbers and letters out of it. Give the Europeans 1,000 years and we have supercomputers. Indian fail.
And if that were to have occurred then it would be obvious to this guy that his neighbor was the United States of the Near East and not some Islamic backwater so that he can't fabricate these tales of ancient glory.
@indc Why did Ghandi hate Sikhs.
Hey NoCoup,
Let me give you another type of delusion, using the year 4000 AD as an analogy.
Someone discovers a 'book' or a 'disc' in a time vault. It's all about the Pilates exercises and how Joseph Pilates invented them by mixing gymnastics, isometric training, and Hatha Yoga back around the World War I time frame (~1915).
Since modern medicine will have all of that in its physical therapy program, some 4000 AD version of indc will say that Pilates was Indian or perhaps an Indian ex-pat in Germany or America because he brought Hatha Yoga into the modern world.
Well guess what? Pilates is the Zoroaster (Hint: Persian metaphor) of physical therapy who knew about Hatha Yoga, just like Zoroaster knew about Agni Yoga, but wasn't Indian.
So it’s a stable form of civilization. Big deal. What’s it given the world? 40,000 years and we got some numbers and letters out of it. Give the Europeans 1,000 years and we have supercomputers. Indian fail.
a source of cheap labor & tequila.
Just because Europe had looted technology, money and sciences. which they used in their development does not make them superior.
Just because Europe had looted technology, money and sciences. which they used in their development does not make them superior. Why do you think muslims were more willing to loot India than europe. Not because christian-europe was superior. India was much rich. Why do you think europe is being overrun by muslim-dogs now. Because all of that loot is in europe now. Dont worry your ancestor's land will go back to living in trees once muslims will have their full run and civilizations development will go back to land where it all started.
Muslims were more willing to loot India because it was backwards and easy to conquer.
You want to believe the persia which has 1 major river fell to muslim invasion in 15 yrs is source of all culture. India bent but not break since it had 12 major rivers. I would rather believe a culture's centrally based on 12 rivers than on 1 river.
Europe took tech like writing and algebra from Persia
indc saysJust because Europe had looted technology, money and sciences. which they used in their development does not make them superior. Why do you think muslims were more willing to loot India than europe. Not because christian-europe was superior. India was much rich. Why do you think europe is being overrun by muslim-dogs now. Because all of that loot is in europe now. Dont worry your ancestor's land will go back to living in trees once muslims will have their full run and civilizations development will go back to land where it all started.
Let’s take this point by pointy head.
1)Europe looted technology: sure! Europe took tech like writing and algebra from Persia and gunpowder from China. But then Europe invented many other things with that tech! Gunpowder was just used for fireworks in backwards China, but Europeans saw that explosive force and harnessed it for canons and firearms. ...
indc saysJust because Europe had looted technology, money and sciences. which they used in their development does not make them superior.
Who did we loot the steam engine, vacuum pump, rocket engines, automobiles, planes, computers, from? The card machine operated loom? The cotton gin?
"Oh, well, India came up with the 0 so everything in engineering/science after that was actually stolen from India"
Your point 2 and 3 are counter-intuitive. When Indians kings did not understand the muslim brutality then they are weak. When european rulers now dont understand the muslim brutality then governments are weak.
Shaman saysMuslims were more willing to loot India because it was backwards and easy to conquer.
And this was Timur's great grandson, Babur, who wasn't even wily enough as his more infamous ancestor, to hold onto his family's lands at Samarkand. His expedition into India, to conquer 'em and build the Mughal Empire, was because he couldn't reestablish Timur's former territorial influences so he sought out an easier target.
Which leads to the following ...
indc saysYou want to believe the persia which has 1 major river fell to muslim invasion in 15 yrs is source of all culture. India bent but not break since it had 12 major rivers. I would rather believe a culture's centrally based on 12 rivers than on 1 river.
Wow! So all those waterways were natural defenses?
The last Zoroastrian Per...
indc saysYour point 2 and 3 are counter-intuitive. When Indians kings did not understand the muslim brutality then they are weak. When european rulers now dont understand the muslim brutality then governments are weak.
You might say that Europeans have been infected by weak Indian philosophy that will end with them becoming the subjects of stronger minded invaders.
India is a place to loot.
It’s not a place to emulate.
Last but not least, after Rajiv Gandhi's assassination (hint: real independence), corporate America threw billions of dollars at India, so that Bangalore could built a Silicon Valley, to replace the one in California.
Instead, it turned into a body shop, producing shoddy work and in the end, the whole Bangalore Inc became a joke in outsourcing. No Microsofts nor Oracles grew from that environment. At best, it was bug fixing spots for those US based corporations which today, is being challenged by eastern Europe and other Asian countries.
What reigning global empire tosses money like that, to make someone else an IT empire? If Rome did that with Egypt, they would have handed Cleopatra over to Octavian without raising a sword.
In contrast to modern India, after the Meiji Restoration, Japan went from medieval to industrial/modern, in one generation. Same for South Korea, which was devastated from the 1950-53 conflict.
Is that the reason all the countries are trying to be in good books of hindus
India just not invent '0'. It gave whole number system to world
Rivers are not just fro defenses but for trade and civilization development. Even my 8 yr knows that. You need to read about ahom dynasty in assam. They stopped muslim invasion for 600yrs. And there was no china invasion from India's north-east for ever until the 1962 war.
Last but not least, after Rajiv Gandhi's assassination (hint: real independence)
1) You can't fight in war eating "carrots" while your enemy can have a loaf of meat and don't need anything for day.
2) They discriminates with own people and these same people are willing to aid enemy.
3) In general Hindu philosophy is really stupid and incoherent. They keep people busy in superstitions.
4) Hindu hate delegating power to people, They used to kill anyone except Brahman trying to educate themselves.
5) They will discriminate by birth, They feel only certain section can fight and otehr trying they will kill for crime of leaning how to use weapons.
A one-two punch and yes, Persia fell.
And likewise, Byzantine/Eastern Roman lost all of the Levant region & Egypt.
indc saysIndia just not invent '0'. It gave whole number system to world
that's the most basic sort of invention. Every people has some concept of numbers, even the most stupid. I'm not saying that Indians are the most stupid, just that most of the smart Indians were born after the Muslims subjugated them.
indc says
Rivers are not just fro defenses but for trade and civilization development. Even my 8 yr knows that. You need to read about ahom dynasty in assam. They stopped muslim invasion for 600yrs. And there was no china invasion from India's north-east for ever until the 1962 war.
Looks like you've missed the point about the China metaphor.
Yes, Assam held off the Mughals. My Assamese friends told me about that and at the same time, they don't see themselves as members of modern independent India as it shit upon their land for decades thanks to an Indira Gandhi. Not everyone believes in this 'united' India view of the world.
Now, my comparison was the Byzantine/Eastern Roman Empire fighting the Zoroastrian/Sassanid Persian Empire. That would be as if ALL of the Chinese army was ALREADY in Assam, not across the Himalayas, which is a mountain barrier. And then from Assam, they a...
taj-mahal
indc saystaj-mahal
Taj Mahal is Tejo Mahalaya a structure built in 11th century. World was fooled to believe that it was built by a Muslim. Muslims never built anything in the world. They only occupy, loot and destroy.
You dont know indian history so you have to make up stories of what India did not do. In 8th century after persia fell same forces tried to attack India.
World was fooled to believe that it was built by a Muslim. Muslims never built anything in the world. They only occupy, loot and destroy.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Periyar_E._V._Ramasamy
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