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1   Tenpoundbass   2020 Dec 12, 10:38am  

This could be, why systematically every entity that should be stepping up and doing the right thing are not.
It also could be why the State Legislature is having public hearings to air all of the election dirty laundry, so nobody is caught by surprised.
Why would Judges and Legislatures become the target of all of the rage, by putting a hand on the scale over the election, if Ratcliffe is going to issue a damning report and Trump is going to cast a drag net and put down the coup anyway?

So basically our Republic hinges on Daniel Ratcliffe's report and what actions happen after that.

The Judges and Politicians don't want their houses firebombed by the Commie Terrorists.
So I don't expect none of them to weigh in.
2   Onvacation   2020 Dec 12, 12:37pm  

TrumpingTits says
EOs are not laws and it won't stop the Electors from voting on Tuesday.

No, but if true (too many bombshell duds to trust anymore), it will be direct evidence of fraud.

Sadly, if true it would probably already be public knowledge.

This could be a huge Trumpian five dimensional chess type rat trap and he's just waiting for the vermin to gather before he springs it on him. That would be the MOAB of bombshells.

Hope springs eternal.
3   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 12, 12:41pm  

I agree with this hypothesis. All of this could be to garner public support and to get the message out there. If the courts don't resolve it, then the EO report comes out and who else would decide the result/remedy of that report, but SCOTUS and/or state legislatures.
4   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 12, 2:59pm  

election2020 says
Body language is very important read.
Either Trump is different, But the way he is behaving doesn't look like he lost election, whereas Joe Biden has a kind of fear where he is ready to go to jail.

Harris hasn't resigned from her senate seat. I don't see whole lot of confidence from Biden day-2-day activities that he think he is going to be president.(No real happiness).
I see uncertainty in them about their win. he never claimed that he won 80M+ votes... It looks like cheating algorithm ran out of control.

By the way if Trump have proof and EO is invoked, Game over for Biden.
If they have no Fraud proof and trying to win only on constitutional basis, Game over for Trump.
Common sense would dictate that Trump has the proof because he knew this was coming. The EO itself, Tweeting earlier this year about foreign countries printing ballots, etc. He HAS to have a ton of intelligence that lays it all out. This isn't some wild theory but I believe this EO could be HUGE.
5   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Dec 12, 3:46pm  

election2020 says
Either Trump is different, But the way he is behaving doesn't look like he lost election, whereas Joe Biden has a kind of fear where he is ready to go to jail.


Not just body language.

You don't have Cohen-Watnick getting rid of the long know "Fletcher-Prouty Secret Team" relationship between CIA and Spec Ops without specific Presidential Approval for every op.
https://prouty.org/

You don't have Pompeo announcing huge new Espionage Cases against CHY-na

You don't clean house of long time Insiders like Kissinger and Half-bright from the Pentagon Civilian Advisory Board.

Lame Ducks who lost a 2nd term don't do these things. Presidents who expect a 2nd term do.

And it's a great time to do it, with all the media distracted by other things.

And Biden is having a very hard time filling the big Seats. Nobody wants to take them yet.
6   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Dec 12, 4:28pm  

Shaman learned me this week that this only means 10% destroyed: decimated
7   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 12, 4:53pm  

I just hope it's Ratcliffe who gets up in front of America with everyone watching, and reads a summary of the report. I have dreams of this day. Imagine the world's reaction.
8   Tenpoundbass   2020 Dec 12, 5:02pm  

election2020 says
Also If he win left will be decimated. I want him to work for constitution and not try Putinism.

One of my refrain from Trump is dictatorial tendencies.


If Trump wasn't so Civic minded by the book and following the Constitution to the letter. He would have just put all of the BS down in his first few years.
He wanted everything to play out in the open with transparency, realizing that the truth will set you free. I don't think he actually planned it, that the more he leaned into their weaponizing the system against him, the more they would reveal their crusty skid marked droors.

He's done nothing but indulged the process, no matter how badly the Left perverted it, and made new rules.

I really don't understand how people say he has dictatorial tendencies, he's a brash asshole, we can all agree to. But he's no Dictator, but he will ultimately do the right thing.

And sometimes you have to Dictatorate or be Dictatorated. against. Trump is having to play by their rules, he's not making this shit up. They are the ones that keep taking the game off the rails. The guy that ran and won on "Make America Great Again" will never be thrown out in a shady corrupt election so, the Establishment can pivot to Communism, and make Trump supporters suffer. (Their own words, I'm not making that part up!)

They already have plans to be oppressive nasty dictators starting with stringing up Trump and his family and everyone that supported him. (Again their words, I'm not making that up.)


This really is a case of chose your Dictator, or one will be chosen for you. "Nah We're Good! We'll stick with the one we GOT!"
9   Onvacation   2020 Dec 12, 5:07pm  

election2020 says
One of my refrain from Trump is dictatorial tendencies.

Propaganda.

Trump says, "You're Fired!" and then sends you off with a nice severance package.

A dictator would smile at you a certain way and they (not assuming genders Kamala) henchmen would throw you in the gulag.
10   Onvacation   2020 Dec 12, 5:20pm  

And you've seen her smile that way.
11   ignoreme   2020 Dec 12, 5:33pm  

If Trump had the evidence it would be out there already. Sorry.
12   Booger   2020 Dec 12, 5:38pm  

ignoreme says
If Trump had the evidence it would be out there already. Sorry.


It's not out there due to massive censorship.
13   Robert Sproul   2020 Dec 12, 6:43pm  

The "assessment"and presentation to the President by Ratcliffe, she is saying, happens within 45 days.
So, like, by next Thursday right?
14   clambo   2020 Dec 12, 8:38pm  

I hope Trump uses his power like Abe Lincoln did.
I'm so pissed at the losers trying to fuck us up.
It's bad enough that my taxes support the losers.
16   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2020 Dec 13, 12:03pm  

I'm just glad booger turned me on to the emergency clown nose about 14-15 months ago:

https://www.metoperashop.org/shop/emergency-clown-nose-13550

I got them for the whole family last Christmas. They thought it was strange and didn't know what they were for. Now they do and we are prepared!
17   Bd6r   2020 Dec 13, 1:54pm  

@TPB, you are an insufferable optimist. It is over and the best we can hope for is Senate blocking Biden's handlers stupid agenda.
18   mell   2020 Dec 13, 1:59pm  

Dbr6 says
@TPB, you are an insufferable optimist. It is over and the best we can hope for is Senate blocking Biden's handlers stupid agenda.


There's a good chance many more were in on this and I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans retain the majority despite election fraud. Maybe a stalemate was planned all along by the interested parties who don't want any (more) regulation to pass (or removed) that could impact them.
19   Bd6r   2020 Dec 13, 2:11pm  

mell says
There's a good chance many more were in on this and I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans retain the majority despite election fraud. Maybe a stalemate was planned all along by the interested parties who don't want any (more) regulation to pass (or removed) that could impact them.

The way how this can benefit us is that R wing of uni-party is now pissed off because they were cheated out of victory and they will not cooperate with D's, thus resulting in a stalemate which is best as stupid new laws are not passed. Government paralysis will benefit all of us.
20   AD   2020 Dec 13, 2:13pm  

election2020 says
1) Massive fraud has happened based on math and circumstances and stonewalling alone.


Factor out undocumented immigrants voting in California due to lax controls there thanks in part to Bill Clinton's Motor Voter Law.

Dems cheated enough in Atlanta, Philadelphia, Phoenix, Milwaukee, Detroit and Las Vegas.

AUDIT THE VOTES. Do not recount since recounting does not filter fraudulent votes.

There needs to be a paper trail. First, check the number of votes per polling place compared to the number of legal voters that showed up to vote.

Check the paper ballots that were placed in the vote counting machines. Determine the chain of custody for those ballots. Make sure they are authentic ballots that each legal voter submitted.

Check the mail in ballots to make sure they have signatures that match what is on file for the LEGAL registered voter. This will ensure that the voter submitted it and it was not submitted by someone else.

Above all, make sure every ballot was submitted by a legal registered voter. That each voter is a US citizen and legal resident of the state.

And make sure that each voter only voted once !!!!

....
21   mell   2020 Dec 13, 2:22pm  

Dbr6 says
mell says
There's a good chance many more were in on this and I wouldn't be surprised if the Republicans retain the majority despite election fraud. Maybe a stalemate was planned all along by the interested parties who don't want any (more) regulation to pass (or removed) that could impact them.

The way how this can benefit us is that R wing of uni-party is now pissed off because they were cheated out of victory and they will not cooperate with D's, thus resulting in a stalemate which is best as stupid new laws are not passed. Government paralysis will benefit all of us.


Possible - even the strong threat of secession is a positive. The RINOs may realize that they can't win anymore no matter how much they suck up to the leftoids.
22   Patrick   2020 Dec 13, 8:00pm  

ad says
undocumented immigrants


You mean illegal immigrants, right? That's the best term to use when referring to people who broke US law to enter the country illegally.
23   Tenpoundbass   2020 Dec 13, 8:05pm  

Dbr6 says
@TPB, you are an insufferable optimist.


You'll be begging for optimism if Sith Biden and Cruella Di Harris gets in there.
24   AD   2020 Dec 13, 8:08pm  

Patrick says

You mean illegal immigrants, right? That's the best term to use when referring to people who broke US law to enter the country illegally.


Okay Patrick, what does the Californian state government do to prevent illegal immigrants from voting ?

What percentage of California residents are illegal immigrants ? Give your estimate please.

...
25   Patrick   2020 Dec 13, 8:15pm  

ad says
Okay Patrick, what does the Californian state government do to prevent illegal immigrants from voting ?


Nothing as far as I can tell.

ad says
What percentage of California residents are illegal immigrants ? Give your estimate please.


About 25%.

https://www.frontpagemag.com/fpm/2019/08/more-10-million-illegals-california-alone-lloyd-billingsley/
26   AD   2020 Dec 13, 8:56pm  

Patrick says

About 25%.


Wait a minute Patrick. Joe Biden and Dems have been saying there are about 11 million illegal immigrants in the USA.

If 25% of California are illegal immigrants, then that is about 10 million. So almost all the illegal immigrants are in California ?

Or perhaps the 11 million is a ruse number to give a false sense of security ?

...
27   REpro   2020 Dec 13, 10:28pm  

Just the fact that some states recently purchased foreign voting computers from Dominion (Canada), they just broke the law as allowing foreign interfere.
28   REpro   2020 Dec 13, 10:41pm  

Patrick says
ad says
undocumented immigrants


You mean illegal immigrants, right? That's the best term to use when referring to people who broke US law to enter the country illegally.


Lets be clear about it.

Illegal immigrants as Patrick said are people who broke the law to enter the country illegally and also who overstay their visa or other rights to stay and currently are unlawfully present.

Undocumented immigrants are people who are "formally accepted" but not in possession of proof who they are. E.g. No passport, No driver license or birth certificate. On Ellis Island if someone had no documents "name was given" by custom officer. Great example: slaves.
29   clambo   2020 Dec 13, 11:02pm  

The correct term is : illegal alien.
Alien=foreign, not from here.

Immigrant means someone legally here.

Migrant is someone coming here (e.g. caravan from Guatemala)

Undocumented is what I am when CHP pulls me over and I forgot my wallet.

I lived in Mexico before California, I got here in 1982, I am bilingual, and I know a lot of illegals from Mexico and elsewhere.

If you pity them, feel sorry for them, support them, want them here, you are 1. A fool 2. You profit from them.
30   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Dec 14, 12:50pm  

mell says
Possible - even the strong threat of secession is a positive. The RINOs may realize that they can't win anymore no matter how much they suck up to the leftoids.



I wonder if we'll see defections from RINOs to Dems.
31   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Dec 14, 3:11pm  

Blah blah blah. I'm not going to believe any of this until I see it. The only election outcome I think likely is that absolutely nothing will happen and Biden will be declared by the fake-news to be the "clear and uncontested winner." (Yes, actually declared "uncontested" winner because, as you know, 100s of signed affidavits by first-hand witnesses to fraud is nothing like any "evidence" of fraud, supposedly.) Everything will be swept under the carpet. The only people who will be "investigated" for "election corruption" will be the Trump supporters. And of course Trump will be persecuted for the rest of his life.
32   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Dec 14, 3:12pm  

Nevada votes Trump Electors

Pennsylvania GOP votes Trump Electors. Georgia Also.
https://www.foxnews.com/politics/republican-electors-pennsylvania-georgia-vote-for-trump

The Media is reporting that the Democrat MINORITY in these states selected Biden Electors as the headline/lede.

So far NV, GA, PA, WI, MI (attempted, locked out of state house by Gov?), and NM (!?) GOP nominated Trump Electors.

The AG of PA is fucking livid but powerless: The executive of the states have NO (BUPKES, NIL, ZILCH) Electoral College selection authority. Can't even veto.
33   MisdemeanorRebel   2020 Dec 14, 3:14pm  

HISTORIC AND UNPARALLELED - PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and NM all had GOP electors cast votes for @realDonaldTrump. That preserves @POTUS’ right to remedy fraud with his own electors.

— Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) December 14, 2020
34   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Dec 14, 3:17pm  

election2020 says
If you believe in that, You have seen nothing.
They try to install Biden, They will get Hitler.
You can't sweep fire under the carpet.

I've seen hours of testimony. All very plausible. I am convinced there was massive election fraud of a nature easily sufficient to overturn the will of the people. But that's not going to stop the steal. They'll install Biden and they'll get one of the biggest sell-outs of USA citizens ever, but so many of the citizens are brainwashed, they won't realize it until they finally figure out society has collapsed around them.
35   SunnyvaleCA   2020 Dec 14, 3:40pm  

election2020 says
Let us talk on January 21st. US would have been tyranny long back if the DNA was [sic] not free.
Not sure about DNA being free, since it's bound individually to each person. Anyway, I'll mark this post and "eat my shorts" if Trump is still in office at the end of the day on the 21st.
36   porkchopXpress   2020 Dec 14, 3:55pm  

Fixing this MUST happen now. Otherwise, our country is lost forever.
37   REpro   2020 Dec 14, 4:27pm  

clambo says
The correct term is : illegal alien.
Alien=foreign, not from here.

Immigrant means someone legally here.

Nop.
Per Dictionary :
immigrant - "a person who comes to live permanently in a foreign country." Nowhere is said is living legally.
Per Webster:
Definition of illegal alien/immigrant
: a foreign person who is living in a country without having official permission to live there
38   Tenpoundbass   2020 Dec 14, 4:30pm  

porkchopexpress says
Fixing this MUST happen now. Otherwise, our country is lost forever.


There's always time to do it right.
39   astronut97   2020 Dec 14, 4:31pm  

NoCoupForYou says

HISTORIC AND UNPARALLELED - PA, GA, MI, WI, AZ, NV, and NM all had GOP electors cast votes for @realDonaldTrump. That preserves @POTUS’ right to remedy fraud with his own electors.

— Bernard B. Kerik (@BernardKerik) December 14, 2020

This hasn't actually happened in the real world. Time to face reality, Trump has lost the election.
40   Onvacation   2020 Dec 14, 4:35pm  

election2020 says
Globalists will be averse to civil war as they have lot more to lose from war than nationalists as they own lot more wealth unless china want to throw hat in for globalists.

Like bitcoin, stocks and bonds, and cash?

I don't know how long you have been following this bastion of free speech, but it is commonly known around here that when cannibal anarchy hits the only wealth that counts is yams, ammo, and access to drinking water.

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