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https://www.newsweek.com/nurse-asks-doctors-warn-about-possible-covid-like-symptoms-vaccine-1553272

Shaman says

Already had two nurses die from the vaccine.
So far it’s being hushed up, but the word will get out once the vaccine fatalities mount.
If you get this vaccine you’re a fool.

Word will get out when they find a way to blame Trump.

Shaman says

If you get this vaccine you’re a fool.

Yup. My neighbor that's a nurse just got it about an hour or two ago. I'll report back on reactions if there are any. Round 1 dose. We'll see. I'll risk it. Not old enough to risk the other end of a brand new vaccine #death. For geezers it might make sense. I ain't touching it. CV-19 simply isn't that deadly in my age range by a long shot. I'd die in a car accident before Covid in the next 10 years.

Shaman says

Already had two nurses die from the vaccine.
So far it’s being hushed up, but the word will get out once the vaccine fatalities mount.
If you get this vaccine you’re a fool

Death certificate or verifiable source... or you are just spreading dangerous rumors.

WookieMan says

porkchopexpress says

I got COVID this week. Moderate flu symptoms for 2 full days...mostly recovered now.

Get well dude. Everyone is getting it now. It's like the hip thing to do. Just stay away from granny.

All my buddies that have gotten it were asymptomatic or had a minor 2 day bout of it like you mention. 1 guy had it bad but was a heavy pot head (smoking) and doc told him to quit while he had the rona. Between his lungs and not being able to get high and having withdrawals (yes, it can happen with modern weed) his case was rough. He's also a bit of a pussy and 50-60lbs overweight for his height. He was down for about 10 days not functioning. No hospital stay though. 35 years old for perspective.

I think I'm approaching over 30 now of known people that have had it. I'm younger(ish) but it's really been a nothing burger for my peers that have gotten it age ~28 to 45. ...

Thanks. I'm still in the first week and have a bit of brain fog/dizziness, and no smell/taste. I'm just going to use this holiday break to fully recover and take it easy. I'm really into fitness and weight lifting, so it'll be hard to recover but I'm ready for the challenge.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Death certificate or verifiable source... or you are just spreading dangerous rumors.

People die daily from vaccines. You think this one is infallible or something? Won't kill anyone? And no, I'm not anti-vax, just this one for now.

I'm more worried about other side effects that you have to live with the rest of your life. We literally have zero long term studies on it. I'm sure Biden will blame Trump when it comes out the vaccine has some side effects. But hey, just trust it.

WookieMan says

People die daily from vaccines. You think this one is infallible or something?

Not sure where the information is that people die daily from vaccines. VAERS stats show most vaccine deaths are children under 1. Deaths of adults from vaccines is a rounding error... and bad covid outcomes are definitely higher than a vaccine complication. Since kids don’t really have bad reactions to covid but are most likely to have bad vaccine reactions. I do believe children shouldn’t be required to get a covid vaccine. I’m a stats guy.... covid complications long term are as unknown as the vaccine.

porkchopexpress says

Thanks. I'm still in the first week and have a bit of brain fog/dizziness, and no smell/taste. I'm just going to use this holiday break to fully recover and take it easy. I'm really into fitness and weight lifting

I’m curious I’d you were taking Vitamin D, Zinc/quercetin and /or vitamin C supplements? Before you contracted covid?

I’ve read Vitamin D levels are very important in warding off covid.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Not sure where the information is that people die daily from vaccines.

7B+ people.... you don't think one dies a day from getting a vaccine? Any vaccine? Across the globe? Vaccines can and will kill people and potentially cause other problems. It's a calculated risk with a very, very low rate of issue. But it still happens. My kids have gotten every vaccine recommended. They won't get this one. Neither will I. Not worth it at this point in time. It's not a deadly virus for those under 60. Those that died under 60 likely had some other health issue.

BoomAndBustCycle says

porkchopexpress says

Thanks. I'm still in the first week and have a bit of brain fog/dizziness, and no smell/taste. I'm just going to use this holiday break to fully recover and take it easy. I'm really into fitness and weight lifting

I’m curious I’d you were taking Vitamin D, Zinc/quercetin and /or vitamin C supplements? Before you contracted covid?

I’ve read Vitamin D levels are very important in warding off covid.

I did already take a multi-vitamin every day anyway, and I got decent time in the sun each week since I live in SCAL. So, I don't think my Vitamin D levels (or other vitamin levels) were deficient, but what do I know.

"Oh no! All of the ICU beds in Marin County are full! Panic!"

There are like a dozen of these articles now, but they don't emphasize the fact that there are a grand total of 29 ICU beds in Marin County, and they try to run at 75% of capacity in normal times. So 8 additional people in the ICU would cause them to run out, out of a population of 260,000.

I heard the NPR report on this. I think they made a mistake by reporting the spokeperson for the Marin County hosiptal. But only intelligent people who are already doubting the scam would have paid attention. They reported 100% capacity, 40% of which are COVID patients and also that there are 29 beds. The spokeperson also said that this is typical occurrence in a bad flu season.

Speaking of flu, where did all the flu go this year? Did it magically become COVID?

https://www.sandiegocounty.gov/hhsa/programs/phs/documents/InfluenzaWatch.pdf

Just heard that Newsom had sent lieutenant governor Eleni Kounalakis to attend CCP Belt and Roads Initiative, which exists to extend CCP style policies and governing style to other countries.

Wonder why this Covid MindFuck feels the way it does? CCP tutelage is alive and well with Newsom.

http://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1278519/pg1
Surgical masks used as part of torture regimen.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Shaman says

Already had two nurses die from the vaccine.
So far it’s being hushed up, but the word will get out once the vaccine fatalities mount.
If you get this vaccine you’re a fool

Death certificate or verifiable source... or you are just spreading dangerous rumors.

Truth. I can't find anything to back up these rumours.

The nurse from Tennessee who fainted is said to be fine. She just wants to hide from the publicity for a while. Her hospital says she is not dead just wants some privacy.

BoomAndBustCycle says

spreading dangerous rumors.

Why dangerous?

Onvacation says

Why dangerous?

Because it scares people from getting the vaccine and delays herd immunity.

A lot of you guys must not get out much or have friends if you still don’t know anybody who has covid or was hospitalized from it. I’ve had the flu and never lasted more than 2 days. Many healthy 30 year olds I know were sick for a week- 2 weeks. That alone proves to me it’s definitely worse than the flu.

I do think treatments have improved dramatically if you catch it early which is why deaths have slowed compared to number contracting it. But I have family who are nurses and doctors and they are hiring everywhere... if people weren’t sick they wouldn’t be so busy.

Patrick says

"Oh no! All of the ICU beds in Marin County are full! Panic!"

There are like a dozen of these articles now, but they don't emphasize the fact that there are a grand total of 29 ICU beds in Marin County, and they try to run at 75% of capacity in normal times. So 8 additional people in the ICU would cause them to run out, out of a population of 260,000.

They can always get one of those respirators out of storage, put it in a room, and slap an ICU sign on the door.

They can find some nurses or people to watch them.

BoomAndBustCycle says

Because it scares people from getting the vaccine and delays herd immunity.

The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid-19, it just lessens the symptoms. I think it’s perfectly reasonable if you are not in a high risk group to have a wait and see attitude about getting the vaccine.

We will only get to heard immunity if we end the lockdowns.

ignoreme says

The vaccine doesn’t prevent you from getting Covid-19, it just lessens the symptoms.

It does the same thing as all other mRNA vaccines. It introduces a protein that Covid has into your system. (Scientists isolated this protein, sequence and reverse engineered it over the past 8 months). Said protein can’t infect you with the virus but it’s foreign to your system and your body attacks it. (You may feel sick while your immune system does this), then when the real covid virus with the same protein enters your body... the memory cells from your body attacking the vaccine introduced protein are quicker and more prepared to attack and kill covid before it can do damage. That’s my layman understanding of the vaccine.

BoomAndBustCycle says

A lot of you guys must not get out much or have friends if you still don’t know anybody who has covid or was hospitalized from it. I’ve had the flu and never lasted more than 2 days. Many healthy 30 year olds I know were sick for a week- 2 weeks. That alone proves to me it’s definitely worse than the flu.

I've had a bunch of friends and my wife now knows into the 30-40's of people that have gotten Covid. I'd say 40-50 people combined. These are people we personally know and during normal times would see once a month on average. Ages 6-70. Only one had it "rough" because he smoked pot and the doc told him to quit. Literally an hourly smoker of the most high THC content stuff, so he had issues, though no hospital. Most didn't even know they had it or thought it was a sinus infection or allergies.

Anecdotal, but that's what you're doing. And if you've gotten an actual flu strain, it's highly unlikely that you have symptoms for only two days. The 5 or 6 times I've gotten a bad flu I've been out for a week physically with lingering effects for another week. Sniffles and cough. Sometimes all winter after I get it with a 1-2 month dry cough.

In my sample size, Covid has been less of a pain than the regular flu strains we're used to. Biggest beef, and I think this is psychological because of the media, is the loss or taste and/or smell. That happens with all other flu strains, but with Covid that was the biggest problem all our friends have complained out and was the only reason they knew they had it (confirmed positive test).

It does the same thing as all other mRNA vaccines.

What "other" mRNA vaccines? This Covid mRNA vaccine is the first one to be used outside lab or small testing clinics. mRNA vaccination is not the commonplace event that you try to imply with the casually stated "It does the same thing as all other mRNA vaccines."

HeadSet says

"It does the same thing as all other mRNA vaccines."

Fainting, nausea, sweating, flu-like symptoms, Bells palsy, sterilization, and death; but you never have to lose your sense of taste.

BoomAndBustCycle says

It does the same thing as all other mRNA vaccines. It introduces a protein that Covid has into your system. (Scientists isolated this protein, sequence and reverse engineered it over the past 8 months). Said protein can’t infect you with the virus but it’s foreign to your system and your body attacks it. (You may feel sick while your immune system does this), then when the real covid virus with the same protein enters your body... the memory cells from your body attacking the vaccine introduced protein are quicker and more prepared to attack and kill covid before it can do damage. That’s my layman understanding of the vaccine.

wrong. They introduce RNA into organism, and this RNA is used to produce protein of pathogen. Also, before 2020, no mRNA technology platform (drug or vaccine) had been authorized for use in humans. So this is a huge unknown and people are legitimately anxious.

An RNA vaccine or mRNA (messenger RNA) vaccine is a type of vaccine that uses a copy of a natural chemical called messenger RNA (mRNA) to produce an immune response.[1] The vaccine transfects molecules of synthetic RNA into immunity cells. Once inside the immune cells, the vaccine's RNA functions as mRNA, causing the cells to build the foreign protein that would normally be produced by a pathogen (such as a virus) or by a cancer cell. These protein molecules stimulate an adaptive immune response which teaches the body how to identify and destroy the corresponding pathogen or cancer cells.[1]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/RNA_vaccine

BoomAndBustCycle says

A lot of you guys must not get out much or have friends if you still don’t know anybody who has covid or was hospitalized from it.

I still don't know a single person who had it, much less anyone who was hospitalized from it.

Wife's second cousin tested positive but was fine and is back at work.

Rb6d says

They introduce RNA into organism, and this RNA is used to produce protein of pathogen.

Uh, foreign RNA injected into me?

Anyone ever see District 9?

Uh, foreign RNA injected into me?

Why not? You inject foreign DNA into your wife all the time.

Interesting fact: semen has immune suppressants in it exactly so that the foreign DNA does not get nuked by the woman's white blood cells on the way in.

Patrick says

Interesting fact: semen has immune suppressants in it exactly so that the foreign DNA does not get nuked by the woman's white blood cells on the way in.

???? White blood cells are only in the blood stream, and the sperm's travels from nut to vagina then through cervix and down the fallopian tube never enters the blood stream. Not saying you are wrong, just curious as to why semen needs immune suppressants.

Patrick says

Interesting fact: semen has immune suppressants in it exactly so that the foreign DNA does not get nuked by the woman's white blood cells on the way in.

Ugh.... I need to get a vasectomy. I don't do condoms and miss the days of baby making sex. lol. Want that again without having another baby.

Not sure why your comment triggered this thought, but it did. lol. Sorry, TMI I know, but I might get it scheduled.

HeadSet says

just curious as to why semen needs immune suppressants

From what I remember reading, it's because the vagina itself has some kind of immune response to it to keep women from getting infected with anything other than sperm.

It's an evolutionary dilemma. A woman needs to literally be infected with foreign DNA from the man for the species to continue, but this path could also carry disease.

Rb6d says

wrong. They introduce RNA into organism, and this RNA is used to produce protein of pathogen

Not totally wrong... just didn’t realize the protein is created by your own body via the mRNA instructions. It’s definitely newer tech, but every doctor and nurse in the world is going to get this vaccine so we are screwed as a society if anything bad happens when we have zero doctors and nurses left.

BoomAndBustCycle says

every doctor and nurse in the world is going to get this vaccine so we are screwed as a society if anything bad happens when we have zero doctors and nurses left.

Not every doctor. THere are plenty of doctors that want nothing to do with the vaccine for themselves or their patients.

BoomAndBustCycle says

when we have zero doctors and nurses left

Or worse: when they have mutated DNA that is then passed on, creating unforeseen genetic diseases in their children.

WookieMan says

Patrick says

Interesting fact: semen has immune suppressants in it exactly so that the foreign DNA does not get nuked by the woman's white blood cells on the way in.

Ugh.... I need to get a vasectomy. I don't do condoms and miss the days of baby making sex. lol. Want that again without having another baby.

Not sure why your comment triggered this thought, but it did. lol. Sorry, TMI I know, but I might get it scheduled.

I backed out a few years ago from getting one after researching the potential long-term effects. Scared the shit out of me. Horror stories.

Patrick says

BoomAndBustCycle says

A lot of you guys must not get out much or have friends if you still don’t know anybody who has covid or was hospitalized from it.

I still don't know a single person who had it, much less anyone who was hospitalized from it.

Wife's second cousin tested positive but was fine and is back at work.

I got it and started symptoms 2 weeks ago to the day. The only lingering things I have is a bit of a runny nose and diminshed smell and test, which is slowly coming back. I've been working out for a week now.

porkchopexpress says

I backed out a few years ago from getting one after researching the potential long-term effects. Scared the shit out of me. Horror stories.

I have a relative whose vasectomy wound got infected with one of those super-bugs, and it put him in the hospital for a week. Not fun.

I'm sure most people don't have that problem, but it sure put the fear of God in me when I heard it.

Patrick says

porkchopexpress says

I backed out a few years ago from getting one after researching the potential long-term effects. Scared the shit out of me. Horror stories.

I have a relative whose vasectomy wound got infected with one of those super-bugs, and it put him in the hospital for a week. Not fun.

I'm sure most people don't have that problem, but it sure put the fear of God in me when I heard it.

God dammit you guys. I finally got off the fence on this and now you've put me back on it. Shit. I've never researched the side effects, so I guess I need to start at ground zero and look into it. Figured it was a pretty basic thing. Unless it's a legit emergency, I have little faith in voluntary procedures anyway.

Onvacation says

BoomAndBustCycle says

every doctor and nurse in the world is going to get this vaccine so we are screwed as a society if anything bad happens when we have zero doctors and nurses left.

Not every doctor. THere are plenty of doctors that want nothing to do with the vaccine for themselves or their patients.

It's not even that. Some are being required to get it. My nurse friend was asked to promote on social media that she got it. She was anti weeks ago and then got it. I think there may be incentives being parlayed about. It was a complete 180 on what she was saying weeks ago.

Either way, most staff at hospitals are required to get the normal flu vaccine every year. So saying every doctor is getting it might be true, doesn't mean they want to or think it is effective. Typical flu vax is a blind shot in the dark each year as to what strain will be prevalent. Effectiveness is adequate at best.