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PeopleUnited says

"...none of us here knew her before the televised faint"

Did she faint or did she drop dead? There is a difference!

Back in December 2020 the amount of toxin in the vaccine was huge!

Besides, you are ignoring the medical science here: All vaccines and medications are unsafe until we have scientific proof that they are safe and effective. The Covid vaccines do not have such a proof and in fact they are untested and experimental. This is not medicine and this is not science!

Besides, you are conveniently ignoring the evidence we have here:

Grab a cup of coffee and see what probably happened to Tiffany Dover - Warning !! Graphic Images!!

https://odysee.com/@Spike:4/WARNING--GRAPHIC-IMAGES-GLOBAL-DEPOPULATION-IN-FULL-SWING-AS-ADULT-DEATH-SYNDROME-SKYROCKETS:8

The_Deplorable says

Did she faint or did she drop dead? There is a difference!

Yep, and if she died literally thousands of people who knew her would know it. Did big pharmacy kill or pay off all those people too?

Just imagine if one of your co-workers suddenly disappeared. You would be silent? I wouldn’t!

I would tell what I know, even it it was simply that she disappeared and now a body double is wearing her uniform and name badge!

NuttBoxer says

PeopleUnited says

and every single one of them had an online obituary and funeral home memorial site.

How many of them were the first healthcare worker to get jabbed on live TV?

TIFF was not the first health care worker to get the poison injections. https://www.businessinsider.com/photos-first-us-coronavirus-vaccine-administered-to-healthcare-workers-2020-12?op=1

PeopleUnited says

The_Deplorable says

Did she faint or did she drop dead? There is a difference!

"Yep, and if she died literally thousands of people who knew her would know it."

Not if the media does not report it. Remember, the Globalists and Big Pharma control the media.

PeopleUnited says

TIFF was not the first health care worker to get the poison injections.

She was the first person I know of that got jabbed, passed out on live stream, and then disappeared for two years.

@PeopleUnited Do you think the jabs are safe and effective?

Onvacation says

PeopleUnited says

TIFF was not the first health care worker to get the poison injections.

She was the first person I know of that got jabbed, passed out on live stream, and then disappeared for two years.

PeopleUnited Do you think the jabs are safe and effective?

To butt in, I doubt Dover is dead.

If the point was to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, they would have injected her with saline and make damned certain she didn't pass out.

HOWEVER, if this was to make it appear that passing out from a vaccine was normal, and then to make a bunch of people look crazy for saying she died, they would have done this as well.

Never put anything past the government in terms of deceiving the public. They CONSTANTLY undermine people who are right. Got questions about 9/11? Well, that's why Judy Woods exists. She ONLY exists to make anybody that questions the official story of 9/11, look nuts.

I doubt Dover is dead, and frankly, I don't really care if she is or isn't. It's difficult to prove, and there's very real people who have died from the vaccine. Lisa Shaw died from that injection - so why even talk about about Dover? Who cares?

Here, I'll start a new thread.

Tiffany is the human cannonball who never hit the net and never returned.

Onvacation says

PeopleUnited says

TIFF was not the first health care worker to get the poison injections.

She was the first person I know of that got jabbed, passed out on live stream, and then disappeared for two years.

PeopleUnited Do you think the jabs are safe and effective?

Nope. Not safe, nor effective. But making up stories about dead people who are actually still alive does disservice to all the people legitimately injured or killed by the jabs. And there are plenty of those. It’s best to tell their stories since it can be verified.

richwicks says

If the point was to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, they would have injected her with saline and make damned certain she didn't pass out.

Exactly, and they would have chosen a guinea pig for the fake vaxx that doesn’t have a history of fainting with vasovagal episodes.

The_Deplorable says

Not if the media does not report it. Remember, the Globalists and Big Pharma control the media.

Every single person in the hospital she works at, which is likely at least 1,000 people, would know she disappeared suddenly and was replaced with a body double.

Did they pay off the entire hospital? What about her kids and her husband? Do they like living with the new fake Tiff, or did they get replaced or paid off too? When do the replacements and payoffs become too much to contain the situation? Or is she still alive and the only thing that was faked was stories of her death?

PeopleUnited says: "Every single person in the hospital she works at, which is likely at least 1,000 people, would know she disappeared suddenly and was replaced with a body double."

Yes, the people at the hospital knew she disappeared and the media ignored them. They do that all the time!

And no, she was not replaced with a body double.

PeopleUnited says: "Did they pay off the entire hospital?"

No need to do that. They were simply threatened with termination if they mentioned Tiffany.

Remember Tiffany Dover disappeared almost 3 years ago. And now you expect us to believe some fantasy from NBC News 3 years after her disappearance?

The_Deplorable says

PeopleUnited says: "Every single person in the hospital she works at, which is likely at least 1,000 people, would know she disappeared suddenly and was replaced with a body double."

Yes, the people at the hospital knew she disappeared and the media ignored them. They do that all the time!

And no, she was not replaced with a body double.

PeopleUnited says: "Did they pay off the entire hospital?"

No need to do that. They were simply threatened with termination if they mentioned Tiffany.

Remember Tiffany Dover disappeared almost 3 years ago. And now you expect us to believe some fantasy from NBC News 3 years after her disappearance?

Turnover rate at hospitals is huge. At least a few of the employees who left would have spilled the beans if she was dead.

I don’t expect you to believe anything. But if you want to claim someone is dead, at least offer some witnesses that can attest to the person dying. Not one person who knows her claims she is dead, nor that she was missing.

By the way, the freaks have claimed the photo taken n the hospital the week after she fainted had a body double in it. That’s bs too, because she is in the photo. But others claim it was a body double who did the interview. Believe it if you want. But if you want to say she is dead at least offer some witnesses who can attest to that.

richwicks says

If the point was to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, they would have injected her with saline and make damned certain she didn't pass out.

This the outlook of the conspiracy defeatist. Assuming these people are not so arrogant they would risk someone dropping dead on live TV to push their agenda. They are not God, they make mistakes all the time, and they fucked up big with this one.

Tiffany's deader than the hand written letter.

NuttBoxer says

richwicks says

If the point was to prove the vaccine was safe and effective, they would have injected her with saline and make damned certain she didn't pass out.

This the outlook of the conspiracy defeatist. Assuming these people are not so arrogant they would risk someone dropping dead on live TV to push their agenda. They are not God, they make mistakes all the time, and they fucked up big with this one.

Pick battles you have a slum dunk in.

Who cares about Dover. You have Lisa Shaw, you have Maddie de Garay. You have Eric Clapton, even Justin Bieber and his wife.

Why worry about a disputed case?

I don't have to understand the full complexities of how 9/11 was done, I just have to be able to explain it well enough so you are reasonably certain our government did it. Why engage in speculation?

Their side lies and misdirects, our side never can, and in fact propagandist infiltrators are injected into our side to discredit us. That's who Judy Woods is.

When something is so obviously out of the ordinary, for people to try and pretend nothing happened is beyond ridiculous. If we have to turn off our brains, stop using logic and reason, then fuck it, we're all screwed.

I'm not going to dumb myself down to try and justify such a naive, irrational conclusion. I've know my opponent too well to believe Tiffany is fine.

NuttBoxer says

When something is so obviously out of the ordinary, for people to try and pretend nothing happened is beyond ridiculous.

Yeah, it IS weird, I will admit, however, weirdness is injected purposely to get people to focus on the wrong thing.

For example, a plane didn't hit the Pentagon, a missile did. That's bullshit. When you see "the small hole", that's because the picture is on the 2nd story. They recovered the black box from that, PLENTY of people saw it, and Flight 77 had to go somewhere, why wouldn't they use a plane?

Lunacy is injected into everything to discredit the people who believe they see government malfeasance. Tiffany Dover might be just one of those, so ignore it. We already have proof the vaccines can kill and we don't need Tiffany Dover at all to demonstrate it. We can't know she's dead, so just ignore that case. Why obsess about it?

The vaccines may have killed 100,000 Americans, maybe 1,000,000 - who knows? But we're all supposed to worry about this one nurse. Who gives a shit? Damar Hamlin literally DIED on a football field - something that's never happened before in professional football.

NuttBoxer says

I'm not going to dumb myself down to try and justify such a naive, irrational conclusion.

Why draw a conclusion at all????

NuttBoxer says

I've know my opponent too well to believe Tiffany is fine.

Do you?

Tiffany Dover passed out, then disappeared on December 2020. Are you positive that it wasn't setup to normalize this kind of reaction, and then to discredit people claiming she was dead, purposely fuel that speculation, and then have her show up alive?

If you tell a normie that she's dead, the normie if they don't just dismiss you out of hand, are going to go to Google, look her up, see that the "news" reports she's alive, and then think you're a nutcase and will then ignore anything you have to say about anything outside of the narrative for the rest of their lives.

So why are you concentrating on Dover? Concentrate on Lisa Shaw. She's fucking dead and there's no question as to what killed her.

richwicks says

Damar Hamlin literally DIED on a football field

He did not die.

HeadSet says

richwicks says

Damar Hamlin literally DIED on a football field

He did not die.

Yeah, he did.

He was revived, but when heart stops, you're dead. He was resuscitated from death, twice.

richwicks says

when heart stops, you're dead

Cool, so Frankenstein was right - you can reanimate the dead with electricity. Happens all the time with AED paddles.

richwicks says

So why are you concentrating on Dover?

Because this is the "Where is was Tiffany Dover?" thread. She was one of the early Guinea pigs. Her disappearance contributed to my decision to avoid the jab.

She fainted, purportedly from some condition unrelated to the jab, while talking on a live feed shortly after she was injected. She didn't speak again until recently. Once again we were left to speculate about something that could have been explained with a simple video from Tiffany where she stated, "I'm alive and well! Y'all stop cyber stalking me."

HeadSet says

richwicks says

when heart stops, you're dead

Cool, so Frankenstein was right - you can reanimate the dead with electricity. Happens all the time with AED paddles.

Well, if there isn't too much tissue degradation. Your brain starts to experience irreversible damage in as little as 4 minutes. I think Damar was technically dead for 5 minutes before he revived, and I was surprised he didn't experience brain damage, but he may have. No EMT..

Damar was dead in the most basic sense. His heart and respiration stopped. The EMT’s resuscitated him, I think they had to restart his heart again at the hospital. He is lucky to be alive, considering he took the poison injections. Tiff is lucky too!! Unless you want to take a giant risk with literally no reward, keep your sleeves rolled down.

The fact that we are still talking about Tiff is proof that propaganda is more effective than truth. If Tiffany was dead her story would have died with her.

Damar Hamlin is less obvious, but too much fucking weird shit around him too to believe the mainstream propaganda outlets narrative. Look, if they can convince you dead people are really alive, a delusion on that scale means they can make you believe almost anything.

Tiffany is deader than Biden's 2024 campaign.

NuttBoxer says

Tiffany is deader than Biden's 2024 campaign.

We don't know, and it doesn't matter. Concentrate on people that have been provably killed by the vaccine. The most famous one is Lisa Shaw.

https://www.patrick.net/post/1379334/2023-05-15-where-s-lisa-shaw

The reason Tiffany Dover is constantly brought up is there's controversy about her, something to argue about. With Lisa Shaw, there's no controversy. Autopsy says he died of complications from the AstraZeneca which created blood clots leading to an aneurysm.

You want to actually convince people the vaccines are dangerous, use Lisa Shaw's death, not the weirdness around Tiffany Dover.

https://www.patrick.net/post/1379334/2023-05-15-where-s-lisa-shaw

I don't use either. I have plenty of 1st and 2nd hand stories from people I know and trust. Family, friends, neighbors.

This isn't about dangers of a shot, it's about the war for our minds, and it appears when it comes to fake resurrections, the wrong side is winning.

NuttBoxer says

This isn't about dangers of a shot, it's about the war for our minds, and it appears when it comes to fake resurrections, the wrong side is winning.

They're losing ground though.

Believe me, 30 years ago, NOBODY would have questioned the shot, just like they didn't question the Iraq War. 30 years ago, if I said "I don't trust the mainstream media", that was basically code to 99% of the population for me saying "I'm totally insane". That's how it would have been interpreted at the time. Seriously, literally. You could NOT say that.

If you want to attack the mainstream media where the war is taking place, there's Epstein who didn't kill himself, there's Russiagate which was a hoax, there's been Iraq, Libya, and Syria - all those wars were lied about. There was their constant bitching that Trump was mentally unfit for office, and now we have Biden.. Pick battles with these people you know you can easily win. Not Tiffany Dover.

A lot of people did question the Iraq war. True a lot of it was along party lines, but they were still right. And to be fair, the media was a bit more impartial, and actually did some reporting 30 years ago. The more overt the lying, the more people resist.

I don't waste time attacking government propaganda outlets, they're doing their job. I go after the people who listen to them. And the stuff you mentioned is all pretty low hanging fruit, easy wins at this point, which could be why you listed those. You start talking bio-digital convergence, you still get plenty of sideways glances. Not sure many people even know the real stories behind Waco or OKC. And the Franklin Coverup is still shrouded in mystery for most. And PizzaGate, dismissed almost as soon as it came out.

We've come a ways, but we still have a long ways to go. Main point though, like you said, more people are moving in the right direction.

NuttBoxer says

A lot of people did question the Iraq war. True a lot of it was along party lines, but they were still right. And to be fair, the media was a bit more impartial, and actually did some reporting 30 years ago.

The only people that did any honest reporting during the Iraq War back in the early naughts, was The Daily Show. Phil Donahue was fired because he questioned it. His show was the top rated show on MSNBC.

NuttBoxer says

The more overt the lying, the more people resist.

Good. I welcome the demise of the propaganda complex.

NuttBoxer says

You start talking bio-digital convergence, you still get plenty of sideways glances.

It's not going to happen. If it was possible to do this, blind people would be able to see again and paralyzed people could walk. We can directly stimulate nerves in animals, because they are expendable. It's not safe for human use. What Musk did to a bunch of monkeys, was torture them to death.

NuttBoxer says

And the Franklin Coverup is still shrouded in mystery for most.

Sure, but Epstein isn't.

You can't just dump them into the deep end. For most people, I can't say "9/11 was an inside job", BUT, I can point them to Emad Salem, that he was an FBI informant who warned the FIB that the WTC was about to be bombed in 1993, and prove it, THEN I can say "9/11 might be an inside job too, but it's more complicated", but I can walk them through it.

They have to be receptive first. So, you start with the lowest hanging fruit.

NuttBoxer says

We've come a ways, but we still have a long ways to go. Main point though, like you said, more people are moving in the right direction.

I found out about Emad Salem in something like 2000, and I remember being so pissed off about it, but NOBODY would believe me. I was just that crazy person trying to get anybody and everybody to please just look up Emad Salem, here's the video, here's the transcript. I just got completely ignored. I remember the frustration of that. It really does drive you crazy when everybody insists on being oblivious. I makes you question your own conclusions and thinking, it's like being gaslit.

When you're a 30 year old kid talking to a 40 or 50 year old, they just don't believe you.

I have a friend that is about 12 years younger than me, and I listen to him. He's very skeptical about vaccines, and he told me "If I told you I was skeptical of vaccines 15 years ago, you'd think I was a nutcase", and I told him - you're probably right. But he did convince me. Did you know in areas that use peanut oil as an adjuvent in vaccines there are people with peanut allergies? There are countries where they use sesame oil instead, and they have sesame allergies. I'm 51, when I was a kid "peanut allergies" didn't exist. The patent to use peanut oil is in 1964. Nobody older than me had peanut allergies, but I started to hear about it by the time I was in my teens, that's when the patent was expiring so more companies would be using it royalty free.

I think he's right, I think these food allergies are a result of vaccination. People have allergies to EGGS now, I never heard of that until recently, but they culture viruses in albumen - the white of the egg. Well guess what:

https://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-04-21/influenza-vaccine-made-inside-chook-eggs/8461002

When did the flu shot become a common thing that was "safe and effective"? About 20 years ago? They've been around for a long time, but I don't remember going into a store in my 20's or even 30's being offered a "free flu shot". Can't escape it now.

Do you know Thiomersal is STILL used in human vaccines? That's a preservative, based on mercury. It's not supposed to be, but it still is. I think technically it's banned, but it's still used. I remember hearing it was banned in the 1990's, but it's still being used. There's no law enforcement.

https://www.cdc.gov/vaccinesafety/concerns/thimerosal/timeline.html

Go look at 1999. They still use this shit. FDA is bullshit, and has been for a long long long long time.

NuttBoxer says

it's about the war for our minds, and it appears when it comes to fake resurrections, the wrong side is winning.

If you believe a person who is still living, working, raising her children, posting on social media and giving interviews is dead, You have lost the war for your own mind.

When you realize that the narrative of the false death is infinitely more useful to the powers that be in covering up vaxx injuries, you will realize that you have been a victim of vaxx doom porn.

Listen, the vaxx is dangerous. That is precisely why we need scientific proof of adverse effects, not rumors and insinuations. Show me how the vaccine killed her in 10 seconds and why we haven’t seen others aren’t dropping dead within seconds of the jab? If you think Tiff is dead, what made her dead while so many many many others lived?

richwicks says

You start talking bio-digital convergence, you still get plenty of sideways glances.

It's not going to happen. If it was possible to do this, blind people would be able to see again and paralyzed people could walk. We can directly stimulate nerves in animals, because they are expendable. It's not safe for human use. What Musk did to a bunch of monkeys, was torture them to death.

That's not what it is. Think creating sub-species. The point is not to benefit, but to enslave and de-humanize.

NuttBoxer says

That's not what it is. Think creating sub-species. The point is not to benefit, but to enslave and de-humanize.

The idea of combining our nervous system directly to a digital interface, is fantasy. That's what I'm pointing out.

We are NOWHERE near to doing this.

But that's precisely what the spike protein shots where. I've posted on this topic in the past, and the Charles Lieber connection is definitely worth a look if you haven't heard of him:

https://www.thelastamericanvagabond.com/charles-lieber-connection-from-nanotechnology-covid-19-technocracy/

They are attempting it now. They have definitely done something with/to Musk(neural net). Will they achieve their 2030 agenda? No, but they are trying...

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/one-year-monday-november-6-2023-c

💉 Well, who could possibly have seen this coming? The Cincinnati Enquirer ran a story late yesterday headlined, “Damar Hamlin not active for Buffalo-Cincinnati Sunday night game.”




Commotio-cordis survivor Damar Hamlin participated in practice this week and was not on the Buffalo Bills’ injured list. But he still didn’t play. When asked, head coach Sean McDermott said something complicated about Hamlin having flu symptoms, so there you go. I am not making up that lame excuse.

Hamlin has not played in seven of the Bills' eight games this season. Because … no reason. He’s just a bench decoration now.

Hamlin, LOL! An avatar on the payroll to make it seem like the movie was real.

Are team payrolls public? Wonder if there's been any significant change in salary, and if someone with that name is still getting paid.

This Tiffany Dover does not look like the NBC Tiffany Dover they showed us a few months ago. Here is a picture of the NBC Tiffany Dover:



Patrick says

https://www.instagram.com/tiffany_dover/p/CtFHRmyJIHG/?hl=en

Completely different person. Nobody's headshape changes like that.