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41   richwicks   2021 Feb 4, 9:31pm  

indc says
Maybe you ask him if he is a khalisthani and let us know his response :)


I doubt he is. He's American of Indian/Sikh descent. I've never regarded him as anything else.
42   indc   2021 Feb 4, 10:09pm  

richwicks says
indc says
Maybe you ask him if he is a khalisthani and let us know his response :)


I doubt he is. He's American of Indian/Sikh descent. I've never regarded him as anything else.


Its a joke. please dont ask him that. I dont want to put you at risk.
43   Patrick   2021 Feb 4, 10:20pm  

In case you are interested, here is an authentic blog about American farming life:

https://plowingthroughlife.com/

Very Christian, very heavy food, very honest people.

Well, I know there are Sikh farmers too and others, but this woman seems very typical of the majority of US farmers to me. I have some cousins who still are farmers in rural Illinois where my grandfather was from.
45   indc   2021 Feb 5, 8:45am  

election2020 says
You may also like reading this:
https://www.kalw.org/post/drought-and-debt-punjab-california-unearthing-green-revolution#stream/0


I read the article and I dont see anything in there which talks about farm bills.
Just more reason for the farms to be better handled which is done in these new farm bills.

Now here is a message from farm minister of India.
https://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/india/no-one-ready-to-say-what-is-black-in-farm-laws-agriculture-minister-tomar/articleshow/80708419.cms

India has been feeding and trading foods with much of asia for millenia. They dont need any handouts from govt. The previous laws were from british times when they kept the farmers as slaves.

@election2020 you did not even share any article which explains what is bad about farm laws.
46   indc   2021 Feb 5, 9:09am  



47   indc   2021 Feb 5, 10:05am  

@election2020, still waiting for your article explaining the problems in the farm bills.

And all your videos of police brutality are after jan 26th. You think police will give you any respect after what your ilk did on jan 26th. I am sharing what happened on jan 26th. If you protest peacefully no one will bother you. If you become an assho** to govt you will not be spared.

You can see what happened in capitol protests, now they are going after people just going to capitol hill even if they did not do anything illegal there. And there is no one to protect them because what they did is illegal.
48   KgK one   2021 Feb 5, 10:40am  

Finally figured out why only sikh n haryana people are more active in protests vs other 90% of hindu farmers.
Its not only issue for sikhs.

Rest of the country farmers mostly hindo90%, have small land n no money to live many weeks without income. So they can't travel to capitol n March.

Farmers in those 2 states have large enough land n money that they can stop farming n protest.

Opening market helps bring in global corporations so country can improve manufacturing. China opened market n allowed other companies now they have advanced significantly.

Do 80% of farmers continue to barely live off small land or move on to better jobs in industry. I don't think farming is profitable for 80% small farmers.
49   richwicks   2021 Feb 5, 7:25pm  

indc says
Its a joke. please dont ask him that. I dont want to put you at risk.


I wouldn't ask him that, but if I were to ask, I would ask him if he knows what a khalisthani is and if he affirmed he knew what one was, what he thinks about the movement and regardless of his answer, I would only thank him for his opinion in answering my curiosity. I would diffuse the question by asking for goals and justifications and what the conflict is about. This would lead him to believe it's just curiosity within his religion and political opinion. I'd make no judgement.

But from those answers, if he gave me definitive answers, I'd know with a 99% probability. I know how to be very diplomatic.

However, I wouldn't intrude. If my vet was an outright terrorist, as far as I'm concerned, it's none of my goddamned business. I paid him to be a competent vet, and he was. The only thing I care about when I pay to have a job done, is ability for that job. Nothing more.
51   Patrick   2021 Feb 6, 10:30pm  

Thanks @election2020

You didn't need to delete them, but let's just keep this one active.
52   indc   2021 Feb 6, 10:42pm  

election2020 says
Patrick says
Thanks @election2020

You didn't need to delete them, but let's just keep this one active.


@patrick
I may retire this with a new thread with "detailed information" about Khalistan,Khalsa,Hindooo and "farmer discussion" at some time.
It is very confusing matter with left/right/farmer/sikh issues mixed up.

There may be some Modi's Hindoos who are on "paid tweets" (In India it is famous that they are paid 5-10 cents per tweet), so I don't have to repeat.


We know who does paid tweets. Ri Ri.cough cough
53   Tix2fun   2021 Feb 6, 10:56pm  

Not sure why he refers Hindu as Hindoo.
54   Tix2fun   2021 Feb 7, 12:23am  

What is the basis of all this what you are saying and spreading hatred against Hindus , just because of new farm law. You believe in the slur by a religion who beheaded your guru. You need to remember Sikhism, Jainism and Buddhism were born in an country where Hindu lived for century and these religion have been allowed to co-exist unlike any other countries where minority religion are never allowed to increase in the population. Let’s take the example of Pakistan after the independence there were 24% Hindus and now there are only 1% Hindus. Even external religion like Islam, Christianity , Parsi, Jews have coexisted and thrived and population has grown. So I feel your hatred towards 100% Hindu is totally unjustified. I am not here to influence you or change your perception or prejudice, I know you will continue on your agenda to divide india.My background I have full respect for all the region I have studied in a Christian convent school, I had Muslim, Jain , Parsi, Jews and Sikh friends. I have visited all the worship places of each religion (except for Parsi fire temple, they do not allow non-parsis ) and have full respect for different god, beliefs system and gurus. First temple I visited after my wedding was holy Golden Temple. We all still coexist and will for many more century and I am proud to be HINDU who like to peaceful coexist , not spread hatred, and we like respect for other religions. For any democratic countries there will be policy issues protest and differences but your agenda of spreading hatred towards Hindoooo is just not something expected from a person who truly loves India and have lived in India. Indian already made a mistake of agreeing to division but rest be assured there will not be any more division in future.
55   Tix2fun   2021 Feb 7, 8:09am  

You have lost it man you did not get my point at all, if hindoo were bad and cruel the way you have been projecting no new religion would have survived or allowed to spread. I have very well read history and aware of what has happened, I am aware of the built up, I know the number of Hindus and Sikhs in Punjab being killed from 1975- 1990 by Khalistan separatists and their killing of well known woman Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in 1984 and what followed is no one is proud of what congress party workers did to our innocent Sikh friends in Delhi. A once prosperous state of Punjab lost its eminence, due to external sponsored terrorist movements and now hearing all young Punjabi are pushed into drugs and alcohol addiction. Your agenda will never succeed. Every country has its share of problems and dark spot in history , look at USA but let me tell you no one will succeed to divide 2 biggest democracy of the world India and USA. Both these countries are great and symbol of true democracy and freedom it gives to their citizens to speak , protest and live peacefully. But no one will accept violence and separatist viewsq. I would suggest you focus on farm law debate rather than painting all 100% Hindu as bad. Every community and religion has bad apples including hindu, Sikhs,Islam & other religion but we don’t paint or blame the overall community or spread hatred towards the full community.

Hindus have faced extreme atrocious and genocides in past by British colonial whites or Persian mogul invaders for multiple centuries we don’t carry the hatred of past generations and blaming or hating the current generation of British and Persians. You need to evolve and learn to forgive and coexist.

Election2020 says
“ You canNOT spread hatred against Nazism/fascism and Hindooo. You can only exterminate them and provide justice to its victims”

Your statement to exterminate me speaks a lot about your mental non-cow dung hatred filled brains & your school of thought, as mentioned before no one can change.

For me all Indians and Americans are my friends and to answer your question if I have Nazi friends . I can say people like you who thinks of exterminate me are my friends with Nazi ideology . You definitely need help and find some inner peace and heal first before having an objective debate.

Have a good day my friend.
56   Rin   2021 Feb 8, 10:08am  

Tix2fun says
killing of well known woman Prime Minister Indira Gandhi in 1984


I know of Assamese ppl, yes, a 1000 miles from New Delhi/UP and the Punjab region, who wanted Indira Gandhi dead since the 70s. Unfortunately, they died of old age.

The fact that she lived so long and was taken out by some Sikh co-conspirators only shows how beaten down the Assamese ppl were by her martial law over their entire state (which is partitioned today). Realize, that region is now in an eternal state of economic depression and lawlessness (outside of the major towns/cities). I know some of their children and grandchildren, born abroad, who can't even visit the region to see their distant relatives because they're dubbed foreigners and need some official invite to get through the checkpoints.

This is the legacy of Indira Gandhi, the worst female PM (but actually a dictator) in the modern history of a so-called democracy. And no, countries like Bangladesh or some backwater in Central or East Africa don't count as modern democracies.

The fact that both her and her son, Rajiv Gandhi, are dead is the reason why India has hope of achieving what every other British colony has done since the Suez Canal crisis and that's that of true independence. Unfortunately, that would make India's time 1991 (post-Nehru dynasty), whereas for Bahrain, it was in 1972.

And the handover of Hong Kong was not independence.
57   Rin   2021 Feb 8, 11:54am  

election2020 says
Turkish thugs(Hope now I am correct on origins of thugs)


For Central Asia, as oppose to Anatolia, "Turkic" is probably a better word than Turkish since Anatolia did attempt to rid the nation of clerical power and introduce a secular state when the founder of post-Ottoman/modern Turkey, Ataturk, assumed power after the collapse of the Sultanate.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atat%C3%BCrk%27s_Reforms

Unfortunately, thanks to dictator Erdogan, that promise is over and we have Pakistan's Mediterranean cousin state.

In terms of Central Asia, only the Soviets removed those dirtbags so in effect, the forces of the clerics are only being held back by another type of gangster.
58   Patrick   2021 Feb 9, 10:54pm  

I find those pictures very touching actually. I'm glad American farmers care about what's going on over there.
59   KgK one   2021 Feb 10, 12:18pm  

https://youtu.be/TJrP-6n7ghI
Good video with more info on farmers.

In India riots are common. India has been under and influence from socialism causing it to stay poor. As it opens up, more international industry will move in and help raise many out of poverty.

Obligatory note for election2020 , yes sikh farmers have more cows, so they also have lot of cow piss and dung in their brain. Don't get me started on sikh jokes, they are same as polish jokes
60   KgK one   2021 Feb 10, 12:20pm  

https://youtu.be/bwxVn6dfDB4
Updated link above. Posted wrong link sbove
61   KgK one   2021 Feb 10, 9:50pm  

Election Do u understand definition of racism. Believing that your race is better than other. Or thinking whole race thinks same way.

Khasla n sikh started few hundred years ago, bulk of which is Hindus. N when muslim tried to kill all Sikhs ,Hindus 4 out of 5 sikh troops helped defend them.
While almost every sikh got killed/raped/converted in pakistani Punjab (20 million to 0), Sikhs population has steady increased in india Punjab. Show me any fact that proves they are treated any different than other various of hindu. Hinduism has so many variations. Some even consider buddhism next phase of Hinduism.

Whatever u say about hindu applies to Sikhs, stop bad mouthing both. I know enough of Sikhs n hindos, almost all prefer peace. There are lot of female godesses, n no one one ever supports violence n rape. Per 1000 person, rape is less than usa.

Your issue is with farm laws, then defend n fight for that. Looks like Lot of Hindus are also fighting it also, forget badmothing only culture that helps sikhs.

After this i am going to give up on you. Think too emotionally.
62   indc   2021 Feb 11, 3:48pm  

https://twitter.com/BharadwajSpeaks/status/1359984924678254594

This rascal who calls himself "Jung Nihang" is the same guy who plays victim card that and claims everybody falsely calls him a khalistani. And at the same time he glorifies terrorist Bhindranwale. Beware of such dangerous two faced snakes who try to act like objective folk.

And we have election2020(sikhguy) on patnet.
63   indc   2021 Feb 11, 6:25pm  

devadasi = married to god.
Nuns = married to god.

Any proof of them being raped in temple or you pull it out of your as*.
64   Rin   2021 Feb 11, 7:02pm  

Though I'm not in "the know" about this discussion, I'm giving election2020 his props because unlike a lot of responders to this, he's not hung up on the whole Mogul as some Persian scum.

No, he's actually read my posts and realized that they're descended from barbaric Turkmen, Timur's lineage, and adopted a lot of Persian court and linguistic customs to appear to be civilized as oppose to barbarians to the rest of the world.

And thus, he's now calling 'em Turkic scum because he's realized the veracity of that statement.

And likewise, while he's not completely in accordance with my concept that perhaps Sikhism, is a sort of post-ancient Persian Buddhism, residing on the border between two ancient nation-states, at least he's aware of the fact that Sikhs, as a whole, have a different p.o.v than the mainstay Hindu-India where the Sikhs try to assimilate and mend nationalities and differences than in putting 'em into separated castes.

And yes, that is the 'spirit' (or essence) of the ancient, pre-Islamic /Zoroastrian Persian Empire where ppl like the eastern Medes & the northwestern Persians could assimilate and form one nationality instead of simply killing each other over differences. So with that in mind, I believe that Sikhs have the best of the old Persia in them as a group.

The Zo's in Mumbai, however, have lost that spirit and thus, are a bunch of bigots living within India but rejecting ppl around them as 'Non-Zo'.
65   Rin   2021 Feb 11, 7:10pm  

In conclusion, if the ppl of Azerbaijan, Iran, and Afghanistan could collectively reject Islam then you'll see an amazing civilization re-emerging on this earth.

Surely unlikely, but at least we can hope.

Those ppl know that Arabia is not their ancestry and thus, have every intrinsic motivation to reject its claim to their culture.
66   indc   2021 Feb 11, 7:53pm  

election2020 says
indc says
devadasi = married to god.
Nuns = married to god.

Any proof of them being raped in temple or you pull it out of your as*.


Cow dung brain Hindoooo, The proof was in link.
Nuns and Priests not marrying have proven to be problematic for Christians.

Southern India's devadasi system, which 'dedicates' girls to a life of sex work in the name of religion, continues despite being made illegal in 1988


Nope, in the article he was just conflating 2 points. There were people who were taking girls to sex trade in name of making them devdasi. And there were devadasis at their volition. There was no proof priests were trading girls for sex. Like we know in patnet people on left are good at making fake narratives.

Like you said in another comment if people are talking about caste we should not give any value to what they are saying. And you can be called McSikhi because you bring the same points that christian missionaries and some here in patnet before you showed up here. Dont worry you and your ilk will slowly disappear once India shows her true potential. Your pop justin trudeau had to ask cow piss drinker and cow dung brain filled modi for vaccine. HAHAHA
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67   Patrick   2021 Feb 11, 9:12pm  

Rin says
In conclusion, if the ppl of Azerbaijan, Iran, and Afghanistan could collectively reject Islam then you'll see an amazing civilization re-emerging on this earth.

Surely unlikely, but at least we can hope.


I hope Iran reverts to Zoroastrianism It is a fine old religion, and not dead yet. They could do it.
68   indc   2021 Feb 12, 8:09am  

Justin trudeau just admitted India handled the farmers protests the right way. Where will you khalisthani go now. commifornia. HAHAHA
69   Bd6r   2021 Feb 12, 8:42am  

Patrick says
I hope Iran reverts to Zoroastrianism It is a fine old religion, and not dead yet. They could do it.

Another interesting one is Bahai faith. I know quite a few Iranians who are Bahai's, and seems this particular religion (so far) is more tolerant than most others, including Christians.
70   indc   2021 Feb 12, 9:06am  

Rb6d says
Patrick says
I hope Iran reverts to Zoroastrianism It is a fine old religion, and not dead yet. They could do it.

Another interesting one is Bahai faith. I know quite a few Iranians who are Bahai's, and seems this particular religion (so far) is more tolerant than most others, including Christians.


Any religion which is just starting will show its tolerant. Even christians were peaceful in the beginning, once power got to their head and started the evil behavior.
71   Patrick   2021 Feb 12, 7:55pm  

indc says
Any religion which is just starting will show its tolerant. Even christians were peaceful in the beginning, once power got to their head and started the evil behavior.



Even Islam started out as a religion of peace. Then they lost a few battles and said "Fuck that, kill all the non-believers!"

Muslims like to quote Mohammed's "peaceful" verses in the Koran, but they always fail to mention that those verses were all from the earliest days, before Muslims turned genocidal against all non-Muslims.
72   indc   2021 Feb 13, 9:35am  

https://twitter.com/BobBlackman/status/1357755699162398720

You can check the replies to his tweet.


73   indc   2021 Feb 13, 9:41am  

Patrick says
indc says
Any religion which is just starting will show its tolerant. Even christians were peaceful in the beginning, once power got to their head and started the evil behavior.



Even Islam started out as a religion of peace. Then they lost a few battles and said "Fuck that, kill all the non-believers!"

Muslims like to quote Mohammed's "peaceful" verses in the Koran, but they always fail to mention that those verses were all from the earliest days, before Muslims turned genocidal against all non-Muslims.


Completely agree. Even vedas mention many wars in them. But what happens after they mature will show the strength in that religion. Islam is still not there yet.

https://twitter.com/IndianHistory0/status/1360211734133239814
74   Rin   2021 Feb 13, 1:19pm  

Patrick says
Even Islam started out as a religion of peace. Then they lost a few battles and said "Fuck that, kill all the non-believers!"

Muslims like to quote Mohammed's "peaceful" verses in the Koran, but they always fail to mention that those verses were all from the earliest days, before Muslims turned genocidal against all non-Muslims.


All of that had already occurred in Saudi Arabia, before Abu Bakr emerged as the supreme Caliphate.

And thus, the Koran is little more than the narrative of the adventures of Mo and his buddies bludgeoning the other Saudi Arabians who didn't accept his religion.

Upon Mo's death, Abu Bakr, General Khalid Ibn Walid, and Umar (the 2nd Caliphate) took to the road, attacking both Persia and Byzantine and defeating both of them up to at least the perimeter areas around Anatolia which was rocky and harder to cross.

FYI, it wasn't called Saudi Arabia but it's the same territory with the same basic barbarians.
75   Patrick   2021 Feb 13, 3:10pm  

Rin says
attacking both Persia and Byzantine and defeating both of them


I've read that the only reason they were able to do that is that the Byzantines and Persians were badly damaged by fighting each other so long and taxing their people harshly to support those wars.

So the Muslims could just march in, promise the poor that their taxes would be only 2.5% of their wealth (which was about zero anyway), and the poor converted in large numbers and fought against their own elites.

Sorry to say it, but I think that kind of thing could ultimately happen in the US if the elite keeps fucking over the masses by outsourcing their jobs to China and importing slews of illegals to drive down wages.
76   Rin   2021 Feb 13, 3:53pm  

Patrick says
I've read that the only reason they were able to do that is that the Byzantines and Persians were badly damaged by fighting each other so long and taxing their people harshly to support those wars.


The plague of Justinian, which occurred nearly a century before the Islamic invasion, basically destroyed the reach of the Byzantine Empire so that in effect, that last border conflict with the Persians was the equivalent of WWI where the world's last two major empires had a final showdown which resulted in the decimation of their defenses to the south. And just like after WWI, none of the major European empires were ever the same.

Patrick says
I think that kind of thing could ultimately happen in the US if the elite keeps fucking over the masses by outsourcing their jobs to China and importing slews of illegals to drive down wages


If the US sticks to the "Spanish vs English" thing it'll be ok, however, if they let Islam build a successful beachhead stateside, then it's curtain call.

Realize, it only takes some 15% Muslim for a society to become immobilized by the power of Imams and their most ardent followers.
77   Patrick   2021 Feb 13, 8:29pm  

Muslims make up 8.3% of the population of France, totaling 5.4 million


France is probably fucked forever.
78   Rin   2021 Feb 13, 8:44pm  

Patrick says
Muslims make up 8.3% of the population of France, totaling 5.4 million


France is probably fucked forever.


As of this time period, Muslims make up some 3% of Quebec's population and thus, only "New France" (a.k.a old name for Quebec), assuming that other religions hold their ground, may be the only France left in the future.
79   Rin   2021 Feb 13, 8:49pm  

Rin says
only "New France" (a.k.a old name for Quebec), assuming that other religions hold their ground, may be the only France left in the future.


FYI, I'm studying French so I have no issues with a France speaking semi-republic/province north of me.

J'aime baiser beaucoup de Quebecoise!
80   Patrick   2021 Feb 14, 11:15am  

I agree that the Wahhabis are far worse than other sects of Islam.

But that is because they teach true Islam, exactly as Mohammed taught it, and following Mohammed's personal example of extreme intolerance and violence.

And ISIS is pretty much the same thing as Wahhabism. True Islam. Rape of captive women, beheading of those who do not submit to their absolute rule.

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