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by GlocknLoad     💰tip   follow   2021 Mar 16, 2:46pm  

I have about $50,000 in a 401k that I just found out is sitting in cash. Through some mistake on my part, it is not currently invested. What would you do with it?
1   BayArea   2021 Mar 16, 2:49pm  

Push into into the market and forget it

Rebalance annually

I would do a 70/30 split between a run of the mill S&P500 index fund and a long treasury.

If you have interest in the market, you get get more elaborate from there...
2   Ceffer   2021 Mar 16, 2:50pm  

I thought that everybody knew that squandering retirement on Bitcoin is a sure fire bet.
3   RWSGFY   2021 Mar 16, 4:54pm  

Hookers and blow - accept no substitute!
4   Blue   2021 Mar 16, 4:59pm  

BayArea says
Push into into the market and forget it

Rebalance annually

I would do a 70/30 split between a run of the mill S&P500 index fund and a long treasury.

If you have interest in the market, you get get more elaborate from there...

Great suggestion. The split might vary based on age. Try 1/4 or 1/3rd international, all are total stock, total bond indexes which is almost crash proof.
5   Patrick   2021 Mar 16, 5:02pm  

My latest thinking is to look at https://companiesmarketcap.com/page/10/ and look at companies smaller than in 20 billion market cap. Maybe much smaller.

Then I'll pick one I've heard of that has a nice green "up and to the right" graph over the last few years (not just 30 days), and invest in that.

Or I'll pick several.

The idea is that if the company gets that big and is growing, it's probably not going to die, and has a good chance of getting much bigger in coming years.
6   Rin   2021 Mar 16, 5:19pm  

GlocknLoad says
I have about $50,000 in a 401k that I just found out is sitting in cash.


I'd say, at least for the next 4-5 years, go conservative.

Look up the State St dividend ETF, SPYD, which separates the cap gainers (i.e. Tesla, Amazon, Google, etc) of the S&P500 from those which give regular dividends, and among its holdings, pick your favorite companies and split your monies into some 10 to 12 of them and set your account to reinvest the dividends automatically.

That's it and only check on your portfolio on a monthly basis.
7   clambo   2021 Mar 16, 5:33pm  

Primecap Odyssey Growth Fund
Vanguard Dividend Growth
T. Rowe Price New Horizons, Blue Chip Growth
Fidelity Contrafund, Blue Chip Growth

Any of these and of course others are good.
8   rocketjoe79   2021 Mar 16, 5:45pm  

Hookers, Booze and Drugs. Taxes don't matter after you're dead.
9   Onvacation   2021 Mar 16, 5:54pm  

Yams and belt-fed are always good investments.
10   zzyzzx   2021 Mar 16, 5:55pm  

Is it too late to buy GameStop?
11   GlocknLoad   2021 Mar 16, 6:22pm  

BayArea says
S&P500 index fund

Is this what Buffet has been recommending for decades?
12   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2021 Mar 16, 6:27pm  

Put it into stocks.
13   GlocknLoad   2021 Mar 16, 6:38pm  

Rin says
Look up the State St dividend ETF, SPYD, which separates the cap gainers (i.e. Tesla, Amazon, Google, etc) of the S&P500 from those which give regular dividends, and among its holdings, pick your favorite companies and split your monies into some 10 to 12 of them and set your account to reinvest the dividends automatically.

This...https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US105G0&p=State+St+dividend+ETF&_guc_consent_skip=1615944747
and
This...https://search.yahoo.com/search?fr=mcafee&type=E211US105G0&p=SPYD&_guc_consent_skip=1615944818
?
Are you saying the FANG stocks are not in those? How can I know what stocks are in them to pick from? Dividend stock investing sounds like a good idea with reinvestment. You'd be investing for dividends over growth, correct? Is that what you're advising? Dividend over growth?
14   GlocknLoad   2021 Mar 16, 6:39pm  

Is there dividend mutual fund? Would it be smart to split the 50k between a dividend mutual fund and a growth mutual fund?
15   clambo   2021 Mar 16, 7:46pm  

Dividend mutual funds are also called “equity income funds” , besides “dividend growth “.
Vanguard, T. Rowe Price and Fidelity have both “dividend growth “ and equity income funds.
I think that if you wish maximum capital appreciation over time, then a growth fund is best.

Arguably the best fund managers today are Primecap, but T. Rowe Price and Fidelity have good funds as does Vanguard.

Another good type of fund is “Blue Chip Growth “, a bit more aggressive than equity income funds but still huge companies.

I got my mother in 50% Fidelity Contrafund and 50% Fidelity Blue Chip Growth 25+ years ago, and she made a bundle, lived off the proceeds, then left me some of it, and they’re both going strong. I’m holding them, and my Health Savings Account is in Fidelity Contrafund.
16   HunterTits   2021 Mar 17, 4:30pm  

Ceffer says
I thought that everybody knew that squandering retirement on Bitcoin is a sure fire bet.

@Bitcoin
17   HunterTits   2021 Mar 17, 4:36pm  

Indexed universal life insurance (IUL) is considered a permanent life insurance policy as opposed to term life insurance which is temporary. IUL is considered permanent because it’s is meant to remain in force until the day you die.

18   theoakman   2021 Mar 17, 4:47pm  

GlocknLoad says
Is there dividend mutual fund? Would it be smart to split the 50k between a dividend mutual fund and a growth mutual fund?



Altria has been my best dividend paying stock over the years.
19   Rin   2021 Mar 17, 5:48pm  

GlocknLoad says
How can I know what stocks are in them to pick from?


I was thinking more of State Street SPDR which has a lower expense of 0.07%

You can download the Excel sheet of all their holdings on State Street Global Advisor's web site

https://www.ssga.com/us/en/institutional/etfs/funds/spdr-portfolio-sp-500-high-dividend-etf-spyd

Look for the download link just below the Top 10 Holdings section, it also gives the percentages & no of shares held.

Ticker Symbol: SPYD
Holdings: As of 16-Mar-2021

Name Ticker
HollyFrontier Corporation HFC
Valero Energy Corporation VLO
ConocoPhillips COP
Hanesbrands Inc. HBI
Hewlett Packard Enterprise Co. HPE
People's United Financial Inc. PBCT
Seagate Technology PLC STX
Lumen Technologies Inc. LUMN
Vornado Realty Trust VNO
Exxon Mobil Corporation XOM
Regency Centers Corporation REG
Omnicom Group Inc OMC
Marathon Petroleum Corporation MPC
Simon Property Group Inc. SPG
Fifth Third Bancorp FITB
Xerox Holdings Corporation XRX
Invesco Ltd. IVZ
Lincoln National Corporation LNC
Federal Realty Investment Trust FRT
Equity Residential EQR
Interpublic Group of Companies Inc. IPG
Iron Mountain Inc. IRM
Altria Group Inc MO
American International Group Inc. AIG
Regions Financial Corporation RF
Kraft Heinz Company KHC
SL Green Realty Corp. SLG
U.S. Bancorp USB
Chevron Corporation CVX
Phillips 66 PSX
MetLife Inc. MET
Huntington Bancshares Incorporated HBAN
Boston Properties Inc. BXP
Welltower Inc. WELL
AvalonBay Communities Inc. AVB
ONEOK Inc. OKE
Walgreens Boots Alliance Inc WBA
LyondellBasell Industries NV LYB
Kimco Realty Corporation KIM
Citizens Financial Group Inc. CFG
Ventas Inc. VTR
Truist Financial Corporation TFC
FirstEnergy Corp. FE
Western Union Company WU
Franklin Resources Inc. BEN
Principal Financial Group Inc. PFG
KeyCorp KEY
Prudential Financial Inc. PRU
Evergy Inc. EVRG
Unum Group UNM
Public Storage PSA
Comerica Incorporated CMA
Dow Inc. DOW
Philip Morris International Inc. PM
Leggett & Platt Incorporated LEG
International Business Machines Corporation IBM
Williams Companies Inc. WMB
Realty Income Corporation O
M&T Bank Corporation MTB
Healthpeak Properties Inc. PEAK
Entergy Corporation ETR
Consolidated Edison Inc. ED
Baker Hughes Company Class A BKR
Kinder Morgan Inc Class P KMI
Newell Brands Inc NWL
Amcor PLC AMCR
AT&T Inc. T
Pinnacle West Capital Corporation PNW
Duke Energy Corporation DUK
International Paper Company IP
Broadcom Inc. AVGO
Dominion Energy Inc D
Exelon Corporation EXC
Southern Company SO
PPL Corporation PPL
Edison International EIX
AbbVie Inc. ABBV
Pfizer Inc. PFE
Verizon Communications Inc. VZ
Gilead Sciences Inc. GILD

Sure, the above isn't all the dividend stocks in the market, but it's a good start.

And if you want to trim the list, avoid those which been nothing but bullish for the past 4 years with no corrections along the way.
20   clambo   2021 Mar 17, 5:59pm  

Permanent life insurance is interesting for a couple of reasons.

You can get one that invests in stocks, like mutual funds which are called sub accounts.

As it grows in value, you don't get a 1099.

Later you can take out $ tax free; it's considered a loan against the policy. It's paid back when you die.

I don't have time for it to grow and I don't have a partner so if I do, I will get a small policy and give her $ each year (up to $14,000 isn't reported).

Sorry to comment off the subject.
21   HunterTits   2021 Mar 17, 6:33pm  

clambo says
it's considered a loan against the policy


And as such, it counts as debt not income as far as the IRS is concerned.

Also as you said: https://patrick.net/post/1338471/?c=1740502

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