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And I don't think he is but I am still not sure that Trump is not a globalist actor. But I am still on his side for there is no other side for me to be on.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

I am 100% certain that she hurt the "election fraud case" with her unhinged theories more than anyone else and provided zero proof.

You're arguing like a progressive that thinks public opinion is more important than facts.

Russia never intervened on trumps behalf in 2016 but many people think that Russian collusion was a fact.

There is a ton of evidence, the Navarro report has a good summary, for 2020 election fraud. Perhaps Sidney repeated disinformation. Maybe she was a Democrat plant.

The progressives have been burning down the country for decades. The neocons have been selling out the country and oppressing the people for longer.

The people. We the people are under occupation by an illegitimate regime. It's clear to me that a set of very bad globalist actors have been screwing the people for a long time now. We are at war. At this point it's just ...

Navarro report was good.
So was many mathematicians providing statistical proof of fraud.
Also the guy asking for "barcode" based verification had solid explanation I can get behind.
The work done by Arizona republics was admirable and full of proof.
But "kooks/plants" got hold of narrative to distract and they succeeded.

Onvacation says

And I don't think he is but I am still not sure that Trump is not a globalist actor. But I am still on his side for there is no other side for me to be on.

You never know. Although his 4 year administration was big FU to globalists.
When he started I also thought of him as Dem plant.

Actually we should stop thinking about person, But more about actions... Trump was relatively good global peace promoting president.
As a personality, I didn't like him.

For the ones on repeat hate :)... Miri/Piri is in our blood.
https://twitter.com/butterfly0o0o0/status/1375626323876405251
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CsA6g1YAd4w

SIDNEY POWELL IS NOT DONE YET!

Onvacation says

SIDNEY POWELL IS NOT DONE YET!

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

The whole system is corrupt and broken. Trump was the peoples choice to run the executive branch but a cabal of domestic and foreign actors stole the presidential and who knows how many congressional elections.

We all know it. We have all seen the evidence.

The FBI says there is not enough evidence to have changed the election but they never looked. The department of justice is corrupt from top to bottom. These people are now passing laws and executive orders to dismantle our republic.

We are living under a fascist dictatorship without direct citizen representation. Our rights are being stripped one by one. If you think I am being hyperbolic did you ever think people would be arrested for not wearing a mask in public?

What can we do?

Lots of good points in that video!

Most importantly, the recent press is complete, outright, bald-faced lies. Sidney Powell did not say what the press quoted her as saying. See https://www.sidneypowell.com/

Biden supposedly won George by 11,000 votes, but in Georgia 400,000 ballots "cannot properly be accounted for".

There was also an algorithm in the voting machines to shave votes (as the machine manual admits they can do) so they weighted Biden votes at 1.26 and Trump votes at 0.74 and this was done across the country.

There was also specific flipping of votes in multiple states and cities. They needed only six key Democratic stronghold cities to flip the election.

The Dominion algorithm was written in Serbia, The voting machines were connected to the internet in violation of law.

Counting stopped simultaneously in six states because Trump voters turned out in such high numbers it broke the fraudulent weighting algorithm. That is, Trump was winning in spite of Biden ballots being multiplied by 1.26 and Trump votes multiplied by 0.74. So they needed to stop the counting and resort to massive quantities of fraudulent mail in ballots as a backup form of fraud.

Hundreds of thousands of fake ballots were trucked to various locations to be on hand when needed.

This was a coordinated and well-funded operation from start to finish, but it is not known who was in charge. There was evidence of substantial hacking from China.

The FBI has refused to investigate.

In Antrim County, Michigan there is hard evidence of votes being flipped.

The Department of Justice has refused to look at the issues. The word came from high up that nothing would be done, even though they have the evidence.

Trump was never in control of his own Justice Department. People around him disobeyed presidential orders. Powell is disappointed that Trump allowed this to happen. It would have taken action in only six cities to correct the fraud, but the Department of Justice ordered all their agents to stand down and stop investigating.

Trump was surrounded by people who told him to stop contesting the fraud and that he would not be allowed not enforce the law and follow the Constitution. Trump should have fired those people but did not. It's very strange that he did not.

The GOP was part of the swamp. The massive RINO population in the GOP and even in the Trump campaign were not interested in investigating and following the Constitution.

The GOP raised hundreds of millions of dollars for "investigation" but most of that money disappeared.

No one in power will even allow debate about the election fraud now.

Tech moguls were heavily involved in the fraud. Zuckerberg donated $400 million to voting activities in exactly the six cities with the most fraud. Trump and Powell were kicked off Twitter.

It was an accident that Trump won in 2016. They had voter machine fraud then too, but they did not account for Trump's surprising popularity.

The virus was great cover for mail in ballot fraud.

Biden never even campaigned because he knew he didn't need to.

Amy Coney Barrett was pressured to recuse herself from any investigation of election fraud even before she was appointed.

We have witnessed the complete institutional failure of every institution to enforce the rule of law.

The Chinese boasted that they controlled everyone in DC except Trump.

The same machines developed to cheat in Venezuela were used to cheat here.

The virus restrictions are designed to destroy the middle class because they fear an independent strong middle class could resist the globalists.

See https://defendingtherepublic.org/ for evidence from Venezuela

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Onvacation says

What can we do?

@Onvacation Posting that video was one good thing to do. Spread it widely.

Another good thing to do is civil disobedience. Take off your mask in a store! Never wear a mask outdoors.

Buy a box of sidewalk chalk and write "China Owns Biden" at major pedestrian crossings. Come up with other slogans as well.

Maybe wear this t-shirt in public: https://www.bonfire.com/masks-do-work/?productType=bacf6cd6-b53d-469c-ab96-02afe5b15f71

Campaign to adopt the Israeli voting system.

Vote for people like Tom Cotton and Rand Paul.

What else?

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

@election2020 Did you watch the video?

The Justice Department has prohibited its members from bringing justice to the public.

Patrick says

The virus restrictions are designed to destroy the middle class because they fear an independent strong middle class could resist the globalists.

I think the oligarchs made a mistake here.

They have indeed destroyed a lot of the middle class, but that just gives newly unemployed people a lot of time to read sites like this one and to think about who did this to them and why.

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Lawyers don't convict people, courts do.

Do you actually believe Sidney Powell is a democrat plant?

Patrick says

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

@election2020 Did you watch the video?

The Justice Department has prohibited its members from bringing justice to the public.

If the "courts" refuse to hear it , You make it public and say "lawyers" are done in this country and let the revolutionaries take over.
If no revolutionary show up, Then it is done deal.

If courts cease to exist , Lawyers are not needed.
It is a con game if still some lawyers trying to litigate.

Onvacation says

election2020 says

Once she convict someone or provide proof of "German Servers" , I will take back this thread.

Lawyers don't convict people, courts do.

Do you actually believe Sidney Powell is a democrat plant?

On technicality you are right.
But the Govt has brought no case as violation of law/constitution.
FBI etc. refused to bring case in spite of govt operated by victim of this fraud Trump.

Sidney Powell is effectively trying to convict(by forcing judge's hand) in a court which she says is not listening.
Can somebody who thinks logically explain to me what is the purpose of this exercise?
If US started to operate like Hindoo India then Sidney Powell is democratic plant. It is how it works over there.

Patrick says

Posting that video was one good thing to do. Spread it widely.

Another good thing to do is civil disobedience. Take off your mask in a store! Never wear a mask outdoors.

Buy a box of sidewalk chalk and write "China Owns Biden" at major pedestrian crossings. Come up with other slogans as well.

Maybe wear this t-shirt in public: https://www.bonfire.com/masks-do-work/?productType=bacf6cd6-b53d-469c-ab96-02afe5b15f71

Campaign to adopt the Israeli voting system.

Vote for people like Tom Cotton and Rand Paul.

What else?

Also ad blocking!

Use Brave browser and plug-ins to block all ads from Google, Facebook, and Twitter, and spread the knowledge of how to do this.

Patrick says

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

Thanks Patrick. Not sure why anyone should "give it up already" when we're talking about the future of this country. Cowardly.

Patrick says

WineHorror1 says

Oh for Christ sakes, give it up already.

@WineHorror1 Please watch the video.

You are wrong to suggest that anyone give up.

The election was clearly stolen, and the Constitution was violated. If you give up, you give up on the country and the rule of law.

I'm with you on this but facts simply don't matter. We've entered a new paradigm. The media controls the message and with targeted hep, the outcomes. I truly believe we are and have been experiencing a revolution.

Onvacation says

What can we do?

Hey @Onvacation you have a lovely sailboat with a big sail.

What would it cost to make a sail with "CHINA OWNS BIDEN" written as big as possible on it?

Patrick says

What would it cost to make a sail with "CHINA OWNS BIDEN" written as big as possible on it?

Lettering is cheap, but I would worry about the bullets.

When a disputed election happen anywhere in world, There are huge rallies lead by "cheated person".
Here Trump is sleeping like a overdosed sailor as If He was part of same scheme.
Where is leadership?
May be He has too many crimes to hide.

Sidney Powell etc. are just to distract. Overall their contribution is to make "election fraud" disappear by presenting "fantacy stories" for distraction.
Where is another crazy who made republicans lose Georgia election? ... Mr Lin Wood.

This looks like a whole scheme including COVID stuff is to tell people "You have no say" to indicate clearly that dictatorship is coming and get used to it.
I will blame "democrat idiots" for following communists and "republican idiots" for following snake salesman on republican side. Time will tell... who are these? You can trust nobody.

I have no doubt that:

1. the machines were rigged to skew the vote
2. there were truckloads of ballots shipped in late at night when the machines were not enough to override the popular will to elect Trump

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

Patrick says

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Trump did have people he trusted looking into it (Barr, Durham). But Trump did not realize these phonies were part of the deep state, just like Graham.

Patrick says

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

They probably showed him some things that they do to people and reminded him of how fragile the life of loved ones are.

Trump, willing actor for the deep state or patriot in over his head?

Patrick says

I have no doubt that:

1. the machines were rigged to skew the vote
2. there were truckloads of ballots shipped in late at night when the machines were not enough to override the popular will to elect Trump

But it is very strange that Trump just gave up when he could have fired the DoJ and FBI heads who were explicitly blocking investigation into the massive election fraud.

Did they threaten Trump, or promise him something?

I think the problem was like Karl Denninger put it in one of his posts, not sparing Trump with criticism. If Trump would have intervened he had to go all-in, i.e. pot commit. That means pulling all measures necessary incl. the military and with the help of the forces seize all material that would prove the clear interference. That's a huge matzeball. If any of this went wrong and he would get stopped out and doubts would emerge about whether his claims were factual and can be proven he could have well landed in jail for a long time or even before a tribunal. That's a huge gamble hardly anybody would take on. Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden. Obviously the dems have a great opp here to cement the fraud but at the end of the day if the country goes to shit just bad enough they will be ousted.

mell says

Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden.

Viva la resistance!

It's not about Trump. It's about our republic. We have all seen that the democrats want the country to be ruled.

Libertarians, like me, just want to be left alone to be successful. I don't mind paying taxes, "render unto Caesar", but I do not want the government to waste our wealth on all the stupid counterproductive shit they do. And I certainly don't want to "give up" my RIGHTS for safety.

Fuck those perverts that want to rule the world.

Onvacation says

mell says

Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden.

Viva la resistance!

It's not about Trump. It's about our republic. We have all seen that the democrats want the country to be ruled.

Libertarians, like me, just want to be left alone to be successful. I don't mind paying taxes, "render unto Caesar", but I do not want the government to waste our wealth on all the stupid counterproductive shit they do. And I certainly don't want to "give up" my RIGHTS for safety.

Fuck those perverts that want to rule the world.

I don't think Trump is all do-gooder. In fact he is an original real state mobster. However he is more American than all of those globalists ever will be, and he knows he owes his fortune to the freedoms of this country, and maybe he even has a but of remorse for some people he screwed in the past as you don't become a billionaire by playing nicely all the time. I do believe he loves the US and hates to see the way it's going and I also believe he has enough type a narcissism to wanting to tackle such a shitshow where others would have taken the easy way out - he likes to be remembered. Overall he is a net positive for this country, and not everyone is an actor or shill, there are a lot of gray areas. Trump is as American as it can get and people understand the country will go to shit if it turns into a globalist-marxist freedom-depriving hellhole.

mell says

Overall he is a net positive for this country, and not everyone is an actor or shill, there are a lot of gray areas. Trump is as American as it can get and people understand the country will go to shit if it turns into a globalist-marxist freedom-depriving hellhole.

Agreed!

The fact is Trump could have done more, but I am happy with what he did do. He exposed the utter corruption of the entire government. Many we used to think were on the side of the American people have been exposed as public enemies.

Yes, that seems like a reasonable appraisal of Trump to me.

I'm happy we got him for four years. I was sure they'd kill him in his first year.

Trump permanently changed politics in the US, exposing the hate the media has for the public, and how deep the swamp goes.

A lot of people were red-pilled by Trump.

mell says

If Trump would have intervened he had to go all-in, i.e. pot commit. That means pulling all measures necessary incl. the military and with the help of the forces seize all material that would prove the clear interference. That's a huge matzeball. If any of this went wrong and he would get stopped out and doubts would emerge about whether his claims were factual and can be proven he could have well landed in jail for a long time or even before a tribunal. That's a huge gamble hardly anybody would take on. Maybe he decided it would be better to stage a come back and build an resistance media and voice and win over more people as the country deteriorates under xiden. Obviously the dems have a great opp here to cement the fraud but at the end of the day if the country goes to shit just bad enough they will be ousted.

I completely agree with this. The nuclear option was REALLY risky and I think Trump knew a big part of the public would hate him for it. It would appear as a military coup for an outcome he didn't like.

porkchopexpress says

I completely agree with this. The nuclear option was REALLY risky and I think Trump knew a big part of the public would hate him for it. It would appear as a military coup for an outcome he didn't like.

Especially since the swamp would have been responsible for the execution and success of any voting investigation. As if McConnell, Pence and the other Republicans weren't in on the fix.

By the way, has there been any investigation or explanation for the under the table votes in Georgia?

Onvacation says

By the way, has there been any investigation or explanation for the under the table votes in Georgia?

I wish I knew where to look to find out whether there was an investigation, and if not, why not.

GA situation. An audit was approved I believe but SoS is battling it.
https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/04/hiding-georgias-secretary-state-raffensperger-petitioning-court-requesting-state-not-hand-ballots-audit/

AZ situation. An audit was approved by election board is fighting it
https://uncoverdc.com/2021/04/01/az-senate-chooses-independent-team-of-experts-for-maricopa-election-audit/

From Sidney Powell:

This week is critical for the Arizona Forensic Audit. The Senate must exercise its powers granted by the Arizona Constitution to take over the Maricopa Tabulation Center to audit the network, the internet connected devices, the voting machines, and the original paper ballots and envelopes.

To many Arizonians, the Maricopa Tabulation Center was where the crime of the century took place and continues today, unexamined. Forensic evidence must be gathered there with an audit to prove or disprove the alleged fraud. The audit must not take place in a rented warehouse or a hotel conference room! The ballots must stay where they are not trucked across town for $150,000!

Send the link to this shared document to all your friends and families. Share everywhere!

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1c-z4XIicID6AVqYK8suttkw6FgVqaDTR788DtThp74Q/edit?usp=sharing

Freedom loving people everywhere, help Arizona hold our elected officials accountable for a legal, free, and fair election in 2020. Contact our Senators and encourage them to fully and boldly exercise the power over elections as granted by the Constitution!

We desperately need the Israeli voting system.

Voting should be at each local school.
Ballots should all be physical, never electronic and never by mail unless a person is in the hospital or in the military.
The ballots should be re-counted on the spot by members of each political party and that local number published immediately.
The local numbers should all be available for the public to add up themselves.

Patrick says

We desperately need the Israeli voting system.

Benny Gantz won the last election in Israel. Israel's election system is as corrupt as the United States. Do Israelis want to be in forever conflict like the United States now is? If they do, they vote for Netanyahu who is being indicted on corruption charges - provided he's not PM.

The US has adopted Israel's entire political system. Continual war, censored press, oligarchs run the nation, corporations are directly supported by the state. The US has become is much more like Israel today, than it was 30 years ago.

Patrick says

We desperately need the Israeli voting system.

Voting should be at each local school.
Ballots should all be physical, never electronic and never by mail unless a person is in the hospital or in the military.
The ballots should be re-counted on the spot by members of each political party and that local number published immediately.
The local numbers should all be available for the public to add up themselves.

And add the Iraqi system of dipping your finger in ink after voting to stop all of those double voting scambodians!

Onvacation says

Patrick says

We desperately need the Israeli voting system.

Voting should be at each local school.
Ballots should all be physical, never electronic and never by mail unless a person is in the hospital or in the military.
The ballots should be re-counted on the spot by members of each political party and that local number published immediately.
The local numbers should all be available for the public to add up themselves.

And add the Iraqi system of dipping your finger in ink after voting to stop all of those double voting scambodians!

Doesn't matter if you dip your finger if ballots can be created on the fly.

Ballots must be associated with the voter. We're both in "high tech" no reason that a QR code of the voter's own making can't be created on the fly to allow validation of the voting system. A random number generated below 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 can be generated, that is associated with the the ballot, only known to the voter - random sampling can confirm the vote then. Here's the QR code of that number:



I told you I work with Tox - you know how an ID is generated? It's (basically) a random number, which nobody in the world is likely to recreate - 1 in many many trillions. Essentially, even with the birthday problem, nobody in 4 or 8 or a trillion people will generate the same number as another. There is no need for a central authority because nobody creates the same number as another - it's statistically impossible. This problem is solved, and has been solved for 20 years.

We do not have a legitimate voting system. It is trivial to secure it, but it isn't, because we don't have a legitimate voting system. There is absolutely no attempt to secure the voting system because the people who are in power, were not elected. They don't want to fix it, if they did, they'd be hung. We have been in a dictatorship for a long time, only now are people starting to suspect it. It's taken forever.

richwicks says

A random number generated below 1,208,925,819,614,629,174,706,176 can be generated, that is associated with the the ballot, only known to the voter

But then someone can hold a gun to your head and make you prove how you voted. And if you voted the "wrong" way, they blow your head off.

I could see the FBI hunting down people who voted the wrong way, since they are so corrupt now.

Or a milder version: to get a job or insurance, you have to prove you voted the "right" way.

The point of totally secret ballots is to prevent this kind of intimidation or round-up of dissenters. How to guarantee voter security?