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zzyzzx says

Lol great t-shirt Buscemi is sporting here.

ThreeBays says

Onvacation says

Facts become conspiracy theory and the truth becomes subjective. They call political theatre science while ignoring experts that don't confirm their biases.

It's obvious to any thinking person from the circumstantial and direct evidence that the virus was developed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology. The world's response shows that the world's leaders knew from the beginning that this was a manmade biological weapon.

Wrong... the facts are facts. The theories are theories. "the virus was developed at the Wuhan Institute of Virology" is a theory not a known fact.

The facts we have are that NIH funded research into bat coronaviruses, right? It's OK to suspect that could have been secretly used to fund gain-of-function, and that's in the hypothesis territory.

The bat/we market natural origin has been thoroughly disproved, so there's an 80%-100% chance it came from the lab, depending on whether you can come up with any other "possible" explanations. It's pretty much a given at this point, the lab workers (and then nearby residents) infections, unnatural genome sequence etc.

mell says

The bat/we market natural origin has been thoroughly disproved

First, let's look at how a virus, like the flu, moves from animal to human:

https://www.scienceabc.com/pure-sciences/how-do-viruses-reach-humans-from-animals.html

Excerpt: "Viruses also develop mutations in similar ways. A virus that affects a pig might get a mutation that allows it to cause sickness in humans. However, it won’t be able to do this unless a number of mutations accumulate. Once the mutation becomes powerful enough to cause a disease, it will then be able to infect both pig and human cells. This is precisely how the swine flu virus, better known as the H1N1 virus, evolved to cause an illness that could be transferred from pigs to humans."

Ok, so before the advent of Patient 0, there's a population of infected bats, which then allows for the animal to human transmission to occur.

Given the fact that there were people combing the city of Wuhan, wouldn't this critical volume of bats have been recovered and then, studied in a genomics lab?

It does make sense that the Chinese govt would have provided this evidence to clear its name of any possible shenanigans. Otherwise, it automatically implicates the CCP of an alleged coverup in their same-city viral research facility.

ThreeBays says

mell says

The bat/we market natural origin has been thoroughly disproved

Can you point to the data / facts that disprove this so categorically?

edit: thanks @Rin

Why "bat/pangoline market" hypotesis needs to be disproven while at the same time "lab leak" needs to be proven?

Let's flip it around: prove the fucking "bat wet market" line and then disprove the "lab leak theory".

Aaaaand go!

ThreeBays says

mell says

The bat/we market natural origin has been thoroughly disproved

Can you point to the data / facts that disprove this so categorically?

edit: thanks @Rin

There were no bats or pangolins sold at that market. Might as well make shit up and say it came from Aliens.

As for genetic research, here's a paper from India ...

The original paper from India; it was retracted, awaiting version 2 for added comments and explanations.

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2020.01.30.927871v1

Excerpt.High Level Observation: "The finding of 4 unique inserts in the 2019-nCoV, all of which have identity /similarity to amino acid residues in key structural proteins of HIV-1 is unlikely to be fortuitous in nature. "

Excerpt.After Looking at the Data: "Although, the 4 inserts represent discontiguous short stretches of amino acids in spike glycoprotein of 2019-nCoV, the fact that all three of them share amino acid identity or similarity with HIV-1 gp120 and HIV-1 Gag (among all annotated virus proteins) suggests that this is not a random fortuitous finding. In other words, one may sporadically expect a fortuitous match for a stretch of 6-12 contiguous amino acid residues in an unrelated protein. However, it is unlikely that all 4 inserts in the 2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein fortuitously match with 2 key structural proteins of an unrelated virus (HIV-1)."

Excerpt.SomeConcludingThoughts: "Further, 3D modelling suggests that atleast 3 of the unique inserts which are non-contiguous in the primary protein sequence of the 2019-nCoV spike glycoprotein converge to constitute the key components of the receptor binding site. Of note, all the 4 inserts have pI values of around 10 that may facilitate virus-host interactions. Taken together, our findings suggest unconventional evolution of 2019-nCoV that warrants further investigation."

Yeah, the CCP should have produced its batch of infected bats.

FuckCCP89 says

ThreeBays says

mell says

The bat/we market natural origin has been thoroughly disproved

Can you point to the data / facts that disprove this so categorically?

edit: thanks @Rin

Why "bat/pangoline market" hypotesis needs to be disproven while at the same time "lab leak" needs to be proven?

Let's flip it around: prove the fucking "bat wet market" line and then disprove the "lab leak theory".

Aaaaand go!

Literally think this was a last ditch effort by the Chinese. They couldn't get Trump impeached by our own government and said fuck it, let this bad boy out. The theatrics at the beginning of building a hospital in 10 days or whatever is a clear sign it was all bull shit. Even a 3rd world country hospital uses concrete. You're not grading land, laying substrate, concrete and putting weight on it that quick and housing patients. Running oxygen lines, electric, etc. It was a joke and Western media fucking drank the koolaid.

Construction is not necessarily a thing you can just throw people at and it goes faster. That's when my bull shit beacon went off.

WookieMan says

Literally think this was a last ditch effort by the Chinese.

mell says

There were no bats or pangolins sold at that market.

FuckCCP89 says

Let's flip it around: prove the fucking "bat wet market" line and then disprove the "lab leak theory".

Guys, the paper I'd cited from India, clearly shows the improbability of it being a natural, spontaneous eruption.

If anything, if we had an independent forensic expert squad, think NCIS (plus Crossing Jordan) w/ a military attache, to go to Wuhan and find the population of bats in the lab or in the region and determine the types of variants of their natural bio-load of Corona or SARS types of viruses and get 'em sequenced, chances are, it'll point nearly 100% to it being man-made.

And ThreeBays is a troll for this topic.

Rin says

to go to Wuhan

Of course, I'm certain the PRC has burned the corpses of every bat, within a 50 mile radius of Wuhan, to prevent any forensics from occurring in the future, using the guise of public health safety.

WookieMan says

Literally think this was a last ditch effort by the Chinese. They couldn't get Trump impeached by our own government and said fuck it, let this bad boy out.

I think it was a cooperative effort to oust Trump by the Chinese and the treasonous American elite which profits mightily at the expense of the US working class from that half trillion of manufactured imports from China each year.

And Fauci had it all set up and ready to go.

Booger says

This makes sense, because the "vaccines" don't seem to change case numbers at all.

The only effects the "vaccines" have are fatal blood clots, heart inflammation, and some instant deaths from anaphylaxis.

https://patrick.net/post/1339616/2021-06-10-the-vaccine-does-literally-nothing-to-prevent

Booger says

The unvaccinated will be required to wear masks.

The idiocy is stunning.

I'm going to stay in the control group of "unvaccinated".

Onvacation says

I'm going to stay in the control group of "unvaccinated".

You'll be doing an invaluable service to the public at large!

Rin says

The original paper from India; it was retracted,

For good reason too. The HIV sites (last I looked in early 2020) didn't appear unusual. You can blast or blat that part and you get the phone book back. Tons of micro-organisms (not just viri) have similar sequences.

They were laughed at by maybe 1000 bioinformaticians.

Perhaps 4 of them IS an issue but I wouldn't call that a smoking gun or anything.

Now then the gcc(n) IS problematic as are multiple +charge AA stuck together (4 I think?). The former tends to cause DNA to break (see: fragile-X syndrome) and so isn't found in nature (for long) and the latter is just energetically unlikely. Those are smoking guns. But that's not what that paper was about. Throwing out the term HIV at the time I thought was just meant to scare people. This isn't HIV we're talking about.

From patriots.win:

The japanese Govt Released Shocking Internal Phizer Documents under a FOIA type request showing where the Nanoparticle Lipids settle in the body Measured at 2 to 48 hours.

The Nanoparticle lipids are a "greasy" molecule that delivers the mRNA instructions into the cell. The body's own cells then produce the harmful spike proteins like a factory once the mRNA blueprint is inserted. So by tracking the concentration of the lipds in the body after the shot (blood , bone marrow , brain, ovaries etc..) we can determine what parts of the body will be inundated with these spike proteins.

The Shocking part is that in the first few hours nanoparticle lipid concentration is most prevalent i the blood , but after 48 hrs the ovaries have 12 times that concentration. After 48 hours the lipid concentration in the blood is only a fraction of what it was in the first hours. So this means that the Lipids and the mRNA they carry SETTLE IN THE OVARIES and turn them into a spike protein factory running wild.

Note the concentrations in different parts of the body at different time intervals, the ovaries are like a Magnet for this poison. it's also interesting that BONE MARROW ends up as the second highest concentrated settling area with only one fourth as much as the ovaries. Testicles were not notably affected.

Link to a helpful article with more info: https://trialsitenews.com/should-you-get-vaccinated/

Direct Link to the Confidential Pfizer PDF file: https://files.catbox.moe/0vwcmj.pdf

Johnson and Johnson forced to pull 60M vaccines.
https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2021/06/j-and-j-must-toss-60-million-vaccine-doses-from-troubled-plant.html

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/california-woman-who-got-both-moderna-vaccine-shots-dies-of-covid-19-officials_3854694.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

California Woman Who Got Both Moderna Vaccine Shots Dies of COVID-19: Officials

https://americasfrontlinedoctors.org/frontlinenews/dr-zelenko-calls-child-vaccine-mandate-coercive-human-experimentation-crimes-against-humanity/

“According to the CDC, healthy kids 18 or younger have a 99.998% rate of recovery from COVID-19 WITHOUT any treatment,” Zelenko told America’s Frontline Doctors (AFLDS). “There is NO medical necessity for any vaccines. Especially, an experimental and unapproved mRNA injection that has shown to have many dangerous side effects.”

He continued: “Any government or individual that forces or mandates children to get this experimental injection is in direct violation of the Geneva convention’s prohibition against coercive human experimentation.

“These are criminals of the highest order and must be brought to justice for crimes against humanity.”

hmmm Japan's vaccination rate lowest in G7: Here's why
https://japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/japan%27s-vaccination-rate-lowest-in-g7-here%27s-why

The Japanese are smart and have integrity.

ThreeBays says

https://japantoday.com/category/features/kuchikomi/japan%27s-vaccination-rate-lowest-in-g7-here%27s-why

From the article:

It almost goes without saying: much can go wrong. Will the vaccines cause blood clots? Allergic reactions? Will they work against emerging new strains of the virus? Uneasiness on those and other points is why Japan’s approval procedures are so slow, say critics – or so thorough, to give it a positive spin. By way of example, the Pfizer serum was still being tested two months after it had been approved in the U.S.

The Japanese sound smart to me. They want to test the experimental biologic agent before they jab everyone.

Onvacation says

The Japanese sound smart to me. They want to test the experimental biologic agent before they jab everyone.

There really is zero logic in taking any of it in the vast majority of people. We're talking 99%. You won't die from covid. Everyone can argue the topic, but the reality is, that covid is not that lethal at all in the grand scheme of life. Get it if you want, but it's not logical by any measure.

Yep. It's totally safe...

ThreeBays says

What you're missing is the Japanese have less cases because they all wear masks, ar1 more respectful of others around them, and maintain better hygiene than most Americans.

Japanese don't social distance though. Japan is very much an urban place (isn't it the highest density country?). Rarely are they 6' or even 3' apart. They are literally on top of each other. Yet we wear masks and are distanced as Americans and our cases are higher. So yeah, masks don't make a difference. Or is it social distancing that doesn't work? One or both don't work.

Even in hill billy country IL, businesses have hand sanitizer at the door. When I use a public restroom, everyone washes their hands. So not sure the hygiene point. Japanese I believe smoke more as well which isn't good for a respiratory illness. Cultures have differences, but they're all more similar than you've been led to believe.

Either way I haven't tested positive for covid and have been extremely reckless by not "following" the science. Multiple flights, vacations, no mask since May 2020, maskless at restaurants since May 2020, gas stations, grocery stores, etc. Basically I've lived my normal life since May 2020 and nothing.

You're living in fear and that's sad. Covid won't kill you.

ThreeBays says

And they are jabbing people with the pfizer vax so, took longer to approve

When was it approved? By Whom?

You can keep throwing out bullshit and lies but the fact is all of the "vaccines" are experimental biologic agents that have already killed thousands and maimed tens of thousands of people in the USA alone.

ThreeBays says

What you're missing is the Japanese have less cases because they all wear masks, ar1 more respectful of others around them, and maintain better hygiene than most Americans.

And they aren't obese.

The US closing in on 600,000 dead supposedly with COVID-19. Most had one or more comorbidities. Almost 450,000 of the CCP virus dead were over 65. Let me rephrase that; 75% of the CCP's bioweapon's victims were over the age of 65 and 94% of the casualties had one or more deadly health conditions.

Old and fat, is it a wonder why our out of shape geriatric federal government fears the Wuhan?

Nobody wants to die. But a pill or a shot from the doctor is not the key to health.

ThreeBays says

What you're missing is the Japanese have less cases because they all wear masks, ar1 more respectful of others around them, and maintain better hygiene than most Americans.

Or maybe they just never lied about the numbers to begin with. That's the integrity part.

just_passing_through says

Now then the gcc(n) IS problematic as are multiple +charge AA stuck together (4 I think?). The former tends to cause DNA to break (see: fragile-X syndrome) and so isn't found in nature (for long) and the latter is just energetically unlikely.

The back-to-back nucleotide codons, CGG-CGG, which code for two Arginines, was the thrust of Dr Steven Quay's and Richard Mueller's claim that the species was lab modified.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-science-suggests-a-wuhan-lab-leak-11622995184

Quay's work, which seems to be based more upon statistical correlation, doesn't make for a smoking gun just yet.

https://zenodo.org/record/4477212

Funny... I had a dream last night that I transposed cgg.. I must have gc bias (har har bioinfo joke)

https://www.ntd.com/california-woman-who-got-both-moderna-vaccine-shots-dies-of-covid-19-officials_626326.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Patrick says

https://www.ntd.com/california-woman-who-got-both-moderna-vaccine-shots-dies-of-covid-19-officials_626326.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

An elderly woman in Napa County, California, who had received both Moderna vaccine shots died from COVID-19, county health officials said.

Did she really die of Covid, or more likely died from the jab and the officials are blaming Covid.

Like the guy around the corner who 'died of Covid' when Covid wasn't killing anybody and wasn't around anymore. He died of the jab and they called it Covid.

ThreeBays says

Patrick says

The only effects the "vaccines" have are fatal blood clots, heart inflammation, and some instant deaths from anaphylaxis.

You down-play the virus that's killed over 600k people and yet post all day about risks of the vaccine. It sounds like you hope the vaccine is bad... after all you've expressed your wish that "libs" would be harmed by the vaccine. In practice it wouldn't be just "libs" but literally a billion people in the world. Pretty sick to be honest.

Nobody is hoping the vaccines are useless and dangerous only, hopefully they provide some sort of protection with all the side effect they come with. But you're confused, what's sick is forcing people to take an unapproved, experimental biological agent for a cold/flu. That's not much different from what Mengele and the Nazis did.

ThreeBays says

You down-play the virus that's killed over 600k

Of which 564,000 had one or more comorbidities and 450,000 of these people were past standard retirement age.

We could have, and should have, let these old and sick people shelter in place while the rest of the herd goes on with life.

Not expecting a cogent rebuttal.

mell says

what's sick is forcing people to take an unapproved, experimental biological agent for a cold/flu. That's not much different from what Mengele and the Nazis did.

One covid death is a tragedy. Thousands of experimental biologic agent deaths are a statistic.