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Harvard epidemiologist opposed to "vaccine" mandates because they erode trust in all vaccines. Start at 20 minutes in.

He does not recommend that children get the jab.

Harvard Epidemiologist Martin Kulldorff on Vaccine Passports, the Delta Variant, and the COVID ‘Public Health Fiasco’
“Those who are pushing these vaccine mandates and vaccine passports … they’re doing so much more damage to vaccine confidence than anybody else,” says Dr. Martin Kulldorff, one of the world’s leading epidemiologists.

In this episode, we sit down with Dr. Kulldorff for a deep dive on COVID-19 immunity, vaccines, the Delta variant, and why he believes the global COVID response has been the “biggest public health fiasco in history.”

Dr. Martin Kulldorff is a professor of medicine at Harvard Medical School and a biostatistician and epidemiologist at the Brigham and Women’s Hospital. He helped develop the CDC’s current system for monitoring potential vaccine risks, and he is also one of the co-authors of the Great Barrington Declaration, which argued for “focused protection” of the most vulnerable, instead of lockdowns.

One good quote at 31:00:

If someone who had covid or the vaccine for covid tests positive for covid, that's what you would expect to happen. So there should be no headlines about that.

mich says

zzyzzx says

THANKS some good news for the day! Just keeps getting more Orwellian every day! My health insurance now says you have to have or negative test to even get treatment! Time to cancel and pay out of pocket.

Switch insurance companies now.

https://www.lifesitenews.com/news/forcing-citizens-to-take-covid-vaccine-entirely-unlawful-says-irish-doctor/

Forcing citizens to take COVID vaccine ‘entirely unlawful,’ says Irish doctor
‘If someone gave me … ten million dollars, I would not take that vaccine,’ Dr. Dolores Cahill said at the Truth Over Fear Summit.

From Dec 2020. I'd like to hear more from her, but can't find her online.

zzyzzx says

Maybe they’re learning from Spirit Airlines poor example. Seems like their troubles HAVE to be caused by employees revolting.

Shaman says

zzyzzx says

Maybe they’re learning from Spirit Airlines poor example. Seems like their troubles HAVE to be caused by employees revolting.

Just heard about this on broadcast radio. They gleefully talked about how the antivaxxers would be forced to jump through painful hoops until the FDA comes to their senses and approves the jab so they would be forced to take it.

I think a lot of this can be explained as a massive revenge murder-suicide for electing Trump.

FDA can't approve it according to its own guidelines. If FDA approves, it is the depth and thoroughness of the corruption. CDC, WHO, HMOs, NIH, Medical Schools, medical journals, so why not FDA being Mengele as well? As long as you are destroying credibility, why stop at FDA?

Ceffer says

FDA can't approve it according to its own guidelines.

Do you know which guidelines specifically?

Patrick says

I think a lot of this can be explained as a massive revenge murder-suicide for electing Trump.

Except if it is as dangerous as we fear, they are taking out a lot more dems than Trump'ers. I have some in-laws (Progressives? Liberals? Socialists? COMMUNISTS!) that managed to sneak ahead in the line because it was so cool to be one of the first to get the jab. They were desperate to get "back to normal" after almost a year into lockdown and figured the jab was their passport back.

They're still waiting as far as I know. My "antivaxxer conspiracy theories" have kind of alienated them.

Patrick says

Ceffer says

FDA can't approve it according to its own guidelines.

Do you know which guidelines specifically?

The one that will end the emergency use authorization of the experimental biologic agent because the Wuhan has effective (very effective) treatments.

Oh that, lol:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

Favorable outcome on viral load and culture viability using Ivermectin in early treatment of non-hospitalized patients with mild COVID-19 – A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial
View ORCID ProfileAsaf Biber, Michal Mandelboim, Geva Harmelin, Dana Lev, Li Ram, Amit Shaham, Ital Nemet, Limor Kliker, Oran Erster, Eli Schwartz
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081

They are going to have to suppress this study too.

Patrick says

Oh that, lol:

https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

Favorable outcome on viral load and culture viability using Ivermectin in early treatment of non-hospitalized patients with mild COVID-19 – A double-blind, randomized placebo-controlled trial
View ORCID ProfileAsaf Biber, Michal Mandelboim, Geva Harmelin, Dana Lev, Li Ram, Amit Shaham, Ital Nemet, Limor Kliker, Oran Erster, Eli Schwartz
doi: https://doi.org/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081

They are going to have to suppress this study too.

First, post it on https://www.archive.org.

https://web.archive.org/web/*/https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.05.31.21258081v1

Second, download it. Archive the URL of the original link, and the URL of the archive link. 6TB is cheap today, you ought to get a RAID. Years later, you can see what still exists, and what has oddly disappeared because of a hard disk crash, or whatever pathetic excuse they come up with.

Worried you will be classified as that paranoid nut with a map with pictures, a bunch of thumbtacks, and strings connecting them taped to a wall? Don't. I learn a lot from what is suppressed.

We really live in a different time. We have enormous archival capability. This is why our news media is collapsing. We can see "journalist" X say one thing, and see the same mother fucker contradict themselves 1 year later. We can see them lie, even if we don't recognize the lie at the time. The criminal syndicate depends on us forgetting, and seriously, what human being can remember all this shit, and even if they do - how do they prove it? Archive it. It's a fun hobby!

I just took some horse ivermectin today, the apple kind, just out of curiosity. Just take a little squeeze from the end of the syringe. It was kind of bitter. Maybe it will de-worm me.

What I find most amazing is all the people out there who seem to have all the time in the world to comb through the archives and put up collages and montages of these liars being caught in the act over and over again. God bless'em.

richwicks says

post it on https://www.archive.org.

Wow, I didn't know it was possible to post anything there manually! I thought it was all spidered.

Thanks for the tip.

Ceffer says

I just took some horse ivermectin today, the apple kind, just out of curiosity. Just take a little squeeze from the end of the syringe. It was kind of bitter. Maybe it will de-worm me.

Any idea how many milligrams of ivermectin it was?

Patrick says

Booger says

Woot! This definitely looks true:

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/united-airlines-union-agree-against-mandatory-covid-19-vaccinations-pilots-2021-05-25/

Maybe there is more to this story that's not in the corporate media at all:

"Oh yeah, that vaxx you got, it doesn't work, so you have to have another one. And another. And another."

Cha-ching! says the Pfizer CEO.

I was never afraid of the virus. By the time I found out it was a manmade weapon it was obvious that it was taking out the old and sick (except congress unfortunately).

I am afraid of the jab; not so much for myself because I am not taking it. I am afraid for all my friends and relatives who have already been harmed and have unknown future harm.

I am afraid at this point it is a waiting game. But it's not a game.

https://twitter.com/Barrettdj/status/1425318928180551687

Some guy's son got myocarditis from the jab, but he's still going to give him the second jab.

Worst. Parent. Ever.

original link

Patrick says

richwicks says

post it on https://www.archive.org.

Wow, I didn't know it was possible to post anything there manually! I thought it was all spidered.

Thanks for the tip.

@Patrick - there's something important you must know for this site:

You must got to https://www.archive.org

NOT https://archive.org/index.php

And you will FREQUENTLY (like nearly all the time) be directed to the 2nd so you will need to manually enter in the site without index.php. You also have to bookmark what you archive, and also archive it offline. The site DOES censor, I think. Some politically censored stuff I swear has disappeared, but maybe it didn't?

Ceffer says

I just took some horse ivermectin today, the apple kind, just out of curiosity. Just take a little squeeze from the end of the syringe. It was kind of bitter. Maybe it will de-worm me.

@Ceffer

FFS! Better pair it down. Drugs are usually scaled by weight. A horse is 1000 lbs. You shouldn't eat any more than a 20th of it. The package I'm sure has something on it like "suitable for horses that are X lbs"

Another thing people are unaware of is that the drug may not be uniformly distributed in the food. I found this out when I asked why not just chop up pills for larger dogs to feed to my smaller dogs, because the cost of the drug was the same for both sizes of dogs. "Oh, don't do that, unless you CRUSH the pill and mix it up". Mash the bar into a bowl. Now it MIGHT be evenly distributed, but you can't be certain it is.

Ivermectin is most certainly a miracle drug. It's used all the time in veterinary medicine. It's a broad spectrum antiparasitic and seems to have other uses. It's commonly used for parasites in dogs in anything from heartworm to fleas. It's safe, and extremely effective.

But you can still OD on it.

Ivermectin is also a long lasting drug. Basically, my dogs got a shot of it, or some oral form, and they were done, for 6 months. It's not like any other drug in that you take it daily, you take is once like a year.

Talk to somebody that knows more about medicine than I do. Rin knows something about this shit. I just know enough to keep a dog healthy and alive until 16.

richwicks says

Ivermectin is most certainly a miracle drug. It's used all the time in veterinary medicine. It's a broad spectrum antiparasitic and seems to have other uses. It's commonly used for parasites in dogs in anything from heartworm to fleas. It's safe, and extremely effective.

It is dangerous to dogs with MDR1 gene mutation. Many shepherd breeds have it.

I just took a little bit of ivermectin, about a quarter to a third of an inch from one horse dose syringe. So far, so good. I can't feel that anything is different. I know you have to titrate the dose for human weight.

I didn't want to take it when viral and find out it made me feel worse due to drug incompatibility. I have some quercetin, too, and will try one of those. I already take the vitamins.

FuckCCP89 says

richwicks says

Ivermectin is most certainly a miracle drug. It's used all the time in veterinary medicine. It's a broad spectrum antiparasitic and seems to have other uses. It's commonly used for parasites in dogs in anything from heartworm to fleas. It's safe, and extremely effective.

It is dangerous to dogs with MDR1 gene mutation. Many shepherd breeds have it.

I don't know much about Shepherds. I fostered for Border Collies, Australian Shepherds (both too smart for me, not a good enough owner for them), Siberian Huskies (too aloof), and Samoyeds (perfect, if you don't mind the hair). Samoyeds are awesome:




They are as nice as they are gorgeous. They are the only breed that I can generally tell the sex of based on how they ACT. Females are more aloof and preening, males are more goofy. They are on the higher end of the spectrum of intelligence, and they are trouble if not given enough attention and enough to do.

They are gorgeous dogs but they shed a lot and they never stop shedding. As younger dogs, they are relatively easy to own, but older dogs never stop shedding no matter how much you comb them out. One of my friends in dog rescue used to use a leaf blower to blow out the coat to get out as much dead hair as possible. It looked like it was snowing. The birds then would pick up the hair and they'd build a cozy warm nest. You can knit their hair, it's finer than cashmere.

To own one properly, you have to learn to groom them. They will appear entirely clean when they are actually filthy. For example I judge the dog in the picture in need of a bath, but I'd have to feel the coat to be able to tell. I'd dump them in the bathtub and the water was basically black after I lathered them up and rinsed them out. You have to be very careful about rinsing out the coat because the SMALLEST amount of soap will lead to a hotspot fungal infection. I'd rinse them out once, refill the tub, and rinse them out again. Second rinse, the water is just grey and filled with hair. Pro tip - Clorox dissolves hair and WHEN you get a clog, dumping down some bleach will fix it. You should never cut their hair, except perhaps their belly in hot weather.

Ceffer says

I just took a little bit of ivermectin, about a quarter to a third of an inch from one horse dose syringe.

Seems to be tracking with my microcosm only worse. Never knew or heard except to second/third degree of separation of anybody who had Covid, but many incidents of suspicious death (three in my hood in SC) and adverse reactions to vaccines. I also think a lot of people are saying they are vaccinated who are not, to keep the heat off.
https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1292548/pg1

I'm no doctor but I think we need to stop calling this a vaccine. It's not. Vaccines stop specific illnesses. Smallpox. Measles. Etc.

The seasonal flu shot is not a vaccine. It just lessons the symptoms if you catch flu by boosting immunity. This is why you need a new one every year. Many choose not to get the annual flu shot and are perfectly fine. If they get flu they are robust enough to survive it with only minor inconvenience. Same logic should apply to Covid but the world's gone bat shit crazy.

The covid shot is more akin to a flu shot than a vaccine. When it first was rolled out they were clear it won't prevent covid, only lessen the severity.

The mRNA technology used in Pizer and Modertna only further muddied the waters as to what to call this since there is a gar shorter history of data for this approach, its efficacy and most importantly the long term effects, which are yet unknown.

Then again if covid was engineers in a lab l, we don't know the long term effect of catching covid either. This is a Hobson choice, unless you avoid social interaction for the rest of time.

Call it a vax.

Tom Hanks Son

https://twitter.com/CCoxley/status/1425822559996682240#m

Martin Kulldorff
@MartinKulldorff
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After the pandemic, a key challenge for scientists is how to regain public trust. It will require intense self-reflection, major reforms and many years.
12:04 PM · Aug 12, 2021

I'm not sure that "public health" officials can ever regain public trust after such massive criminality and propaganda obviously designed to maximize profits by killing people with the jab.

Hanging Fauci would be a good start, but that would require laws against genocide to be enforced, and the Biden administration seems determined to simply ignore laws which interfere with Big Pharma profits.