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WineHorror1 says

How do you fight propaganda? With propaganda maybe?

Just be aware of it. That kills it.

Nobody is a fool for being tricked. We all are at times. We are given a steady stream of BS and that's just the way it is. MORE (and sloppier) propaganda is actually a good thing. People simply didn't believe propaganda was created for American consumption just 20 years ago. These same people are now complaining about how horrible the media "has become." The media hasn't changed. It's always been bullshit, but the general person is becoming aware of it.

The Church Committee was in 1975, that revealed the existence of Operation Mockingbird. If you do a quick search for "mockingbird" you'll find it mentioned.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Church_Committee

"The most shocking revelations of the committee include Operation MKULTRA involving the drugging and torture of unwitting US citizens as part of human experimentation on mind control; COINTELPRO involving the surveillance and infiltration of American political and civil-rights organizations; Family Jewels, a CIA program to covertly assassinate foreign leaders; Operation Mockingbird as a systematic propaganda campaign with domestic and foreign journalists operating as CIA assets and dozens of US news organizations providing cover for CIA activity."

But go see "Operation Mockingbird" in Wikipedia:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Mockingbird

"Operation Mockingbird is an alleged large-scale program of the United States Central Intelligence Agency (CIA)"

It's not "alleged", it is. Isn't it weird to see contradictions in Wikipedia? Operation Mockingbird is CIA project to inject propaganda into our "news" media. Anderson Cooper is obvious part of this effort - he's got no journalistic credentials, and he's HIGHLY paid, and was an intern for the CIA, and he's a Vanderbilt. I wouldn't be surprised to learn that Cooper isn't even a homosexual (that's how cynical I am), but uses that as a shield. Why do you think we have so many "minorities" in the "news"? It's just a shield for them. If you criticize Rachael Maddow it's not because she's lying, it's because you hate lesbians.

Wikipedia is propaganda itself. These aren't mistakes, these are purposeful lies. If you try to correct the articles, you'll find you can't. Mockingbird is controlled by the intelligence agencies as well. Even if you have PROOF of an "error" in Wikipedia, Wikipedia won't accept it because they are exclusively dependent on "reliable sources" - in other words, our "free press".

You can't, and never will be able to, stop propaganda from happening. Mockery defangs it though.


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Dore may be on the left, and I think he's a bit naive to have many of the opinions he does, but he's made a name for himself just making fun of the propaganda. In another few years, it will be a MINORITY opinion that anything in the corporate media is true. If you think Joy Reid, Sean Hannity, Rachel Maddow, etc are going to finally be shamed into telling the truth, that's never going to happen. Their job is to take anything they are given, and a viewpoint, and promote that. They are fully aware they are propagandists.

If the propaganda goes away, they will regain trust of the populace, and the populace will go back to believing their "authorities". Paradoxically, it's better to have propaganda be obvious and blatant - if goes away, people will forget that it was around and it will be reintroduced when people have their guard down. To me, it's been obvious for decades, but it's a real challenge to convince somebody that believes "the news", that it is false - or it was. It's was tremendously difficult. "They wouldn't lie about THAT!" - sure they would and they do. They'd prefer to call you crazy to your face than to to face up to being tricked.

richwicks says

Just be aware of it. That kills it.

Both sides are using some propaganda. My point is, if people are susceptible to it, we've got to use it also. We just have to do it better while at the same time destroying their propaganda.

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

Just be aware of it. That kills it.

Both sides are using some propaganda. My point is, if people are susceptible to it, we've got to use it also. We just have to do it better while at the same time destroying their propaganda.

It's fine to use propaganda, PROVIDED it's not a lie. If you lie, you undercut your credibility. If you're WRONG you undercut your credibility.

It's VERY common that you are fed false information to undermine your credibility. That's why you have to suspicious about everything. The truth always makes sense, reality always does, but lies, unless you have a REALLY GOOD lie, there's a contradiction in there somewhere.

The propaganda system is breaking down. Just help collapse it. It's not enough just to counteract it, we have to destroy it.

It's rumored that Zbigniew Brzezinski said that there was a threat of a "great awakening" that people would realize that they were constantly lied to in order to control them and he feared this. It doesn't matter if that's true or not if Brzezinski said this or not. This is what needs to be done, people's complete awareness of what is done. People are always going to lie to other people, they are always going to gaslight us - even when it becomes totally ineffective.

Our propaganda is the most effective propaganda that this world has ever seen. We're a free nation, with a free press, with free people, with free speech - right? Wrong. This is ingrained into us for a decade and 1/2 in public school. The only way to actually be a free nation is be aware of our enslavement and be constantly on guard against it. The price of liberty is eternal vigilance and it always will be. That can't change, ever.

richwicks says

It's fine to use propaganda, PROVIDED it's not a lie. If you lie, you undercut your credibility. If you're WRONG you undercut your credibility.

I'm listening. I'm just saying we need to use everything we can. Propaganda is powerful. The biggest problem is we have no national voice/outlets.

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

It's fine to use propaganda, PROVIDED it's not a lie. If you lie, you undercut your credibility. If you're WRONG you undercut your credibility.

I'm listening. I'm just saying we need to use everything we can. Propaganda is powerful. The biggest problem is we have no national voice/outlets.

The problem is that there ARE national voices and outlets. THAT'S the problem. Single point of attack. That's both their strength and their weakness.

Do you really appreciate what kind of power we all have now? I can literally talk to a Syrian or a Libyan now. I can talk to a Ukrainian. You can too. There are no experts, there are no authorities. There never has been.

Propaganda doesn't necessarily have to be false, but when it is, 99.9% of the time it's malicious in some way. Just don't be malicious.

Do you know why we know about the Waukesha parade massacre? It's NOT because of our national media - I'm certain they'd want to get that out of the headlines ASAP - and watch, in 2 months this story will be talked about just as much as Ahmaud Arbery is or Dawit Kelete - remember them? Notice what falls off the radar. Our "news" is still driving what is discussed and what isn't. That's the next pillar to fall. They almost always determine what can be discussed, that's ending.

richwicks says

Do you really appreciate what kind of power we all have now? I can literally talk to a Syrian or a Libyan now. I can talk to a Ukrainian. You can too. There are no experts, there are no authorities. There never has been.

Until our ability to do this is taken away. Plus, imo, there is no national coverage like endless radio, TV, Hollywood and politicians that are in lockstep with each other. They outweigh us in this fight.

WineHorror1 says

richwicks says

Do you really appreciate what kind of power we all have now? I can literally talk to a Syrian or a Libyan now. I can talk to a Ukrainian. You can too. There are no experts, there are no authorities. There never has been.

Until our ability to do this is taken away. Plus, imo, there is no national coverage like endless radio, TV, Hollywood and politicians that are in lockstep with each other. They outweigh us in this fight.

They'll become irrelevant.

And they can't take the Internet away.

Censorship is a sign of weakness, not of strength. Conformity is also a weakness. Sure, they can all march in lockstep together, in the wrong direction.

Is it better to have 100 companies with 100 employees working on the same problem or 1 company with 10,000 employees working on the same problem? It's the first one, they come up with dozens if not 100 solutions. The big company only comes up with one solution, hoping that it's optimal but it's not. TV, Hollywood, and Politicians are one massive company, and they are making a very poor solution.

The reason why socialism doesn't work isn't really socialism, it's centralization that kills it. In the USSR one path was chosen and that's how the WHOLE COUNTRY did it. SOMETIMES it worked, and often it was a disaster.

Today, one guy in his basement can reach a million people. Youtube tried to cut off people like that, and what happened? Bitchute, Odyssey, Rumble, BrandNewTube, Brighteon .... There's 100's thousands of guys that just want to speak their mind and out of that, there's a few dozen who know what they are talking about.

They don't outweigh us in this fight at all. Not even close. Their power is all illusion. If everybody in the country said "I'm no longer paying taxes", that ends. If 20% of the country said that, it would end.

richwicks says

They don't outweigh us in this fight at all. Not even close. Their power is all illusion. If everybody in the country said "I'm no longer paying taxes", that ends. If 20% of the country said that, it would end.

I love your confidence. Hope you're right.

Direct statements blaming the vaccine for heart damage in a new study in the well regarded peer reviewed journal Circulation:

"Abstract 10712: Mrna COVID Vaccines Dramatically Increase Endothelial Inflammatory Markers and ACS Risk as Measured by the PULS Cardiac Test: a Warning"
"We conclude that the mRNA vacs dramatically increase inflammation on the endothelium and T cell infiltration of cardiac muscle and may account for the observations of increased thrombosis, cardiomyopathy, and other vascular events following vaccination."
https://www.ahajournals.org/doi/10.1161/circ.144.suppl_1.10712

In a sane world this would trigger......something. Reporters demanding answers, other scientists initiating urgent new research.
Immediately stopping all the Mad Jabbing.

joshuatrio says

There is a correlation between areas with the highest vax rates and highest covid rates of death.

Correct.

Singapore did not have any significant death rate until almost everyone was vaxxed:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/singapore/#graph-deaths-daily

Booger says

That's so good I'm going to post it to https://patrick.net/post/1342067/2021-10-22-another-attempt-at-explaining-the-psych

Patrick says

joshuatrio says

There is a correlation between areas with the highest vax rates and highest covid rates of death.

Correct.

Singapore did not have any significant death rate until almost everyone was vaxxed:

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/country/singapore/#graph-deaths-daily

Incorrect.

Singapore was not open to the rest of the world until they were nearly fully vaxxed.

When they opened to the rest of the world then Covid came in.

Patrick says

Booger says

That's so good I'm going to post it to https://patrick.net/post/1342067/2021-10-22-another-attempt-at-explaining-the-psych

Booger is the king of memes.

Misc says

Singapore did not have any significant death rate until almost everyone was vaxxed:

This remains true.

Patrick says

Misc says

Singapore did not have any significant death rate until almost everyone was vaxxed:

This remains true.

While true it obscures the facts behind what really caused the populous to come down with Covid.

The Vaxx did not cause the disease to spread. Opening the country to the rest of the world did.

If the vaxx worked, they would not be getting ill.

Patrick says

If the vaxx worked, they would not be getting ill.

The Vaxx does work. It doesn't stop every case, but lessens the severity dramatically.

Compare Singapore's death rate per million vs other country's.

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/#countries

Singapore's death rate did not decline because of the vaxx in the least. Consider the absurdity of watching a death rate rising directly with vaxxing and then claiming that the vaxx is lowering the death rate.

And it fits with the experience of every other country. More vaxxing leads to more death. This is even true in the US. We now have more deaths in 2021 than in 2020, because of the vaxx.

But Singapore always had a low per million rate because it is a highly developed place with relatively healthy people. It would be even lower if they used ivermectin, etc.

And now most of the population has latent heart and venous injuries from the vaxx, so you will likely see cardio-related deaths rise.

Patrick says

Singapore's death rate did not decline because of the vaxx in the least. Consider the absurdity of watching a death rate rising directly with vaxxing and then claiming that the vaxx is lowering the death rate.

But Singapore always had a low per million rate because it is a highly developed place with relatively healthy people. It would be even lower if they used ivermectin, etc.

And now most of the population has latent heart and venous injuries from the vaxx, so you will likely see cardio-related deaths rise.

Again, the Covid death rate did not increase until they opened the country up to the rest of the world. Singapore's government understood that there would be deaths from allowing others into the country, but they decided that the country had achieved herd immunity based on the percentage of the population that had been vaxxed. There would be some instances of Covid leading to death, but it would not sweep through the country's populous.

The statistics I mentioned above bear this out.

There are cases of the vaxx causing injuries and death. These are very rare. There have been over 3.3 billion vaccinated world-wide. If even 1% of those vaccinated had problems with the vaxx, the morgues would have been certainly overwhelmed as would the hospital systems.

Misc says

These are very rare.

Have you noticed how very common the words "very rare" have become lately?

I personally know one dead from the vaxx and one who had myocarditis, badly injured.

What are the odds of that?

Misc says

Again, the Covid death rate did not increase until they opened the country up to the rest of the world.

Which demonstrates that the vaccines don't protect the population or provide immunity. That's the point.

I am vaccinated against polio - that means I cannot get polio - not that it's LESS LIKELY I get polio, it means I'm immune to it. I can hang out with a group of people who have polio and not worry about getting polio, because the polio vaccine works and it's effective.

Like very other vaccine that ACTUALLY works. The coronavirus vaccines don't work.

Misc says

Again, the Covid death rate did not increase until they opened the country up to the rest of the world.

But opening up the country does not explain the identical rise in deaths with vaxxing everywhere on earth, including the US. Israel is much more dramatic because they had more vaxxing.

I'm not saying that 1% of the vaxxed have died, but I am saying that there are significantly more dead from the vaxx than have actually died from the virus. Did you notice when Italy reduced their official death count from the virus by 97%?

https://summit.news/2021/11/04/italian-institute-of-health-drastically-reduces-its-official-covid-death-toll-number/

Also, just consider the profit motive. Think about it for a minute.

https://twitter.com/DowdEdward/status/1460769624237117443#m

Once you reach clarity, you cannot go back to pretending this is in any way OK. It's mass murder for profit.

People who use the words "very rare" talk about it based on statistics. There have been about 9800 people killed by the vaxx in the US. With a population of over 330 million, that makes it " very rare".

However, since only 27 deaths occurred from the Ford Pinto fiasco you can see the media bias.

For a while, there were more people in Singapore killed by the vaxx than by Covid, but the deaths per million statistics from above clearly show the benefits of the vaxx.

The under reporting of the vaccine injuries is legion, and part of the MSM fake news umbrella tyranny. Even in good times, the reporting is estimated at one percent of true incidents, and with Covid vax, it could be even a smaller percentage with all of the medical and societal denial.

As far as I know, the handful of people in my microcosm who have croaked or had severe illness proximate to the vax haven't reported it at all as such. Even if they wanted to, you hear of doctors who are also covering up attribution because they may have gotten money to administer the vax and just don't want to be fingered or blamed, so they gaslight. Or, they medicate even more trying to cover up the symptoms. It's an unholy mess, literally.

Like it was said, it is a pretty good walk away poison. The longer the person lasts (remember, they have succeeded in eliminating any blame in the first two weeks proximate to the vax. Yeah, that's not a bit suspicious) before manifesting symptoms, the greater the deniable spin.

The manufacturers are now trying to keep the complication reporting and specific injuries sealed for generations with their bought puppets in the legislative. That's sure indicative of good motives, too.

https://t.me/KanekoaTheGreat/2634

Misc says

they decided that the country had achieved herd immunity based on the percentage of the population that had been vaxxed.

Apparently they were wrong, unless you want to redefine herd immunity as "woulda been worse" rather than protected.

The Palace Centurions are opening ranks. Maybe somebody can relieve the world of the curse of Castro's Satan worshipping spawn.
https://t.me/c/1315127140/21619

Might as well just keep your sleeve rolled up for more "free" "vaccines":
"Currently, a total of 2612 vaccines are being investigated for a number of infectious diseases"
https://www.pharmacytimes.com/view/new-vaccines-in-the-pipeline-2020

I wonder if I could get rich by inventing a shirt with a pull-down flap over the deltoid. Makes it easier to get the upcoming quarterly jabs. "Fauci Fashion."

HeadSet says

I wonder if I could get rich by inventing a shirt with a pull-down flap over the deltoid. Makes it easier to get the upcoming quarterly jabs. "Fauci Fashion."

Makes me think of the "Johnie Zipper" character from the RPG "Wasteland 2".