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2021 May 9, 10:24pm   81,874 views  629 comments

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https://sebastianrushworth.com/2021/05/09/update-on-ivermectin-for-covid-19/

Back in January I wrote an article about four randomized controlled trials of ivermectin as a treatment for covid-19 that had at that time released their results to the public. Each of those four trials had promising results, but each was also too small individually to show any meaningful impact on the hard outcomes we really care about, like death. When I meta-analyzed them together however, the results suddenly appeared very impressive. Here’s what that meta-analysis looked like:



It showed a massive 78% reduction in mortality in patients treated with covid-19. Mortality is the hardest of hard end points, which means it’s the hardest for researchers to manipulate and therefore the least open to bias. Either someone’s dead, or they’re alive. End of story.

You would have thought that this strong overall signal of benefit in the midst of a pandemic would have mobilized the powers that be to arrange multiple large randomized trials to confirm these results as quickly as possible, and that the major medical journals would be falling over each other to be the first to publish these studies.

That hasn’t happened.

Rather the opposite, in fact. South Africa has even gone so far as to ban doctors from using ivermectin on covid-19 patients. And as far as I can tell, most of the discussion about ivermectin in mainstream media (and in the medical press) has centred not around its relative merits, but more around how its proponents are clearly deluded tin foil hat wearing crazies who are using social media to manipulate the masses.

In spite of this, trial results have continued to appear. That means we should now be able to conclude with even greater certainty whether or not ivermectin is effective against covid-19. Since there are so many of these trials popping up now, I’ve decided to limit the discussion here only to the ones I’ve been able to find that had at least 150 participants, and that compared ivermectin to placebo (although I’ll add even the smaller trials I’ve found in to the updated meta-analysis at the end).

As before, it appears that rich western countries have very little interest in studying ivermectin as a treatment for covid. The three new trials that had at least 150 participants and compared ivermectin with placebo were conducted in Colombia, Iran, and Argentina. We’ll go through each in turn. ...

What we see is a 62% reduction in the relative risk of dying among covid patients treated with ivermectin. That would mean that ivermectin prevents roughly three out of five covid deaths. The reduction is statistically significant (p-value 0,004). In other words, the weight of evidence supporting ivermectin continues to pile up. It is now far stronger than the evidence that led to widespred use of remdesivir earlier in the pandemic, and the effect is much larger and more important (remdesivir was only ever shown to marginally decrease length of hospital stay, it was never shown to have any effect on risk of dying).

I understand why pharmaceutical companies don’t like ivermectin. It’s a cheap generic drug. Even Merck, the company that invented ivermectin, is doing it’s best to destroy the drug’s reputation at the moment. This can only be explained by the fact that Merck is currently developing two expensive new covid drugs, and doesn’t want an off-patent drug, which it can no longer make any profit from, competing with them.

The only reason I can think to understand why the broader medical establishment, however, is still so anti-ivermectin is that these studies have all been done outside the rich west. Apparently doctors and scientists outside North America and Western Europe can’t be trusted, unless they’re saying things that are in line with our pre-conceived notions.


And HCQ falls into that same bucket. Even worse - to admit HCQ works would be to admit Trump was right about something.

Liberals would rather that millions die than that Trump be allowed to be right about anything. They hate Trump more than they love their fellow humans.

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31   porkchopXpress   2021 Aug 14, 8:50am  

WineHorror1 says
Mom took 2 doses of HCQ and no more
She needs to take zinc with HCQ since HCQ is the vehicle to get zinc into the cells to kill the virus.
32   GNL   2021 Aug 14, 10:25am  

porkchopexpress says
WineHorror1 says
Mom took 2 doses of HCQ and no more
She needs to take zinc with HCQ since HCQ is the vehicle to get zinc into the cells to kill the virus.

My sister and I put both of them on a daily regimen of Quercetin, D3, C and Zinc also. There are 5 of us kids and we are not all on the same page. My parents live with my sister and she is, I would say, in charge although she would not say that. I gave what I had to the cause (Ivermectin and HCQ) and voiced my opinion. We shall see what happens. So far, so good. They are mostly tired. Dad had a fever and went to Urgent care yesterday. He is now home and was given a blood thinner in case he has blood clots (no, they did not take the clot shot).
33   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 14, 1:21pm  

WineHorror1 says
I believe this is what they have been offered..


Antibodies are pretty safe as far as I know. For example that's what lots of cancer drugs are: antibodies matched with the cancer to guide the immune system to go in for the kill.

As opposed to chemotherapy which is basically just poison that one hopes kills the weaker cancer cells more than the normal cells.
34   GNL   2021 Aug 14, 3:21pm  

just_passing_through says
WineHorror1 says
I believe this is what they have been offered..


Antibodies are pretty safe as far as I know. For example that's what lots of cancer drugs are: antibodies matched with the cancer to guide the immune system to go in for the kill.

As opposed to chemotherapy which is basically just poison that one hopes kills the weaker cancer cells more than the normal cells.

Doesn't it sound like the vax delivered in a different way?
35   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 3:39pm  

No injections at all for me thanks, not until Fauci has been tried for mass murder at least.

Equal opportunity.
36   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 14, 6:55pm  

Nope, totally different thing. Read up on humanized monoclonal antibodies if you're interested in the tech. It's not mRNA, spike protein or any of that crap.

They gave this to Trump when he had the coof.

It's expensive as all hell.
37   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 6:58pm  

What I'm saying is that I no longer trust any injections.

Our criminal "public health" officials may decide to put the clot-shot under a different label, "for you own good" you know.

Clearly anyone who trusts "public health" officials at this point is naive to a life-threatening degree
38   PeopleUnited   2021 Aug 14, 7:21pm  

just_passing_through says
Nope, totally different thing. Read up on humanized monoclonal antibodies if you're interested in the tech. It's not mRNA, spike protein or any of that crap.

They gave this to Trump when he had the coof.

It's expensive as all hell.


Here is one example. https://www.accessdata.fda.gov/drugsatfda_docs/label/2018/125377s096lbl.pdf
And a government approved fact sheet about monoclonal antibodies.

It is true they are expensive. They are also not without risk and thus we would only give them to those who have a serious illness. Trump did get them (not the kind cited above but an experimental formulation for treating his Wuhan flu), and promised that everyone who needed them would also get them. But obviously that did not happen. Sometimes I think Trump has no idea what he is saying, we probably don’t have the capacity to create enough monoclonal antibodies to treat everyone with the coof. The good news is that your chances of a bad outcome if infected are small.

There are protocols online for treatment based on stage of infection/severity of disease.
Scroll down to the middle of the page for the charts.
https://www.survivalistboards.com/threads/treating-covid-with-ivermectin.956864/page-38#post-20915284
Here is another reference. https://covid19criticalcare.com/covid-19-protocols/i-mask-plus-protocol/

This is not medical advice, just sharing some sources of info for those who are interested in seeing what others have published.
39   GNL   2021 Aug 14, 9:13pm  

Got to tell ya, I do not know what to believe. Too much information. Too much disagreement between every source. Too many lies and too much censorship.
40   Patrick   2021 Aug 14, 11:39pm  



So will they remove the emergency authorization for the jab now that there is a proven effective alternative treatment?

Any bets?
41   DhammaStep   2021 Aug 15, 5:48am  

PeopleUnited says
Trump did get them (not the kind cited above but an experimental formulation for treating his Wuhan flu), and promised that everyone who needed them would also get them. But obviously that did not happen. Sometimes I think Trump has no idea what he is saying, we probably don’t have the capacity to create enough monoclonal antibodies to treat everyone with the coof.


It didn't happen because of shenanigans, mate. It's been nonstop shenanigans. So few people got the treatment, just another crime to add to the list.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/why-monoclonal-antibody-covid-therapies-have-not-lived-up-to-expectations/

His administration even ordered half a million doses for use during the "pandemic" which, just like the hospital ships, barely saw use.
42   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 15, 12:27pm  

WineHorror1 says
Got to tell ya, I do not know what to believe. Too much information. Too much disagreement between every source. Too many lies and too much censorship.


Was on my phone so didn't type much. I suspect they offered 'the good stuff' to your parents due to their age. As it should be. Nothing is ever 100% safe for everyone. One might have an allergic reaction to whatever the antibodies are injected with for example. But we make antibodies naturally. These are just synthetic, recognized by your body as human and target the virus or it's proteins.

Point is it's not a vaccine and not mRNA and doesn't contain or cause your body to make any spike protein. Instead these latch on to the virus and or spike protein to disable it and then other immune cells come in and turn the virus into food.

In the 90s a guy I worked with at a biotech company started his own antibody side business in his garage.
43   Patrick   2021 Aug 15, 12:31pm  

just_passing_through says
Point is it's not a vaccine and not mRNA and doesn't contain or cause your body to make any spike protein.


How do you know what's in it?

Just trust Fauci?
44   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 15, 12:33pm  

@WineHorror1 another way to do the same thing is to use:

https://www.mayoclinic.org/tests-procedures/convalescent-plasma-therapy/about/pac-20486440

That's a natural way to use antibodies to fight covid. You just use the blood from someone who recovered that has antibodies in it. There just isn't a ton of that stuff around so there are people who make it synthetically.

I think they save the convalescent blood for the most at-risk people as well.
45   GNL   2021 Aug 15, 12:40pm  

Patrick says
just_passing_through says
Point is it's not a vaccine and not mRNA and doesn't contain or cause your body to make any spike protein.


How do you know what's in it?

Just trust Fauci?

I'm leaning toward believing the worst outcome from all this is we become an extremely low trust society.
46   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 15, 12:47pm  

Patrick says
How do you know what's in it?

Just trust Fauci?


In the past I would have laughed at that but nowadays who the hell knows. Maybe they'll put the vax in our drinking water next.
47   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 15, 12:50pm  

Another way to explain it is the whole point of the vax is to get your body to make antibodies against the coof. It's not the antibodies that are bad. They are good.

Think of them like post-it notes. Imagine you're a virus and suddenly post-it notes start sticking to you all over. They get in your eyes. They get in your nose so you can't breath. Slows you the hell down.

Along comes a terminator who looks for things covered in post-it notes. That's how it knows what to target. It finds you and blows you away.
48   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2021 Aug 15, 1:07pm  

WineHorror1 says
I'm leaning toward believing the worst outcome from all this is we become an extremely low trust society.


Definitely true for me. I was never antivax but now I don't even want the flu vaccine. I don't trust those fuckers.
49   GNL   2021 Aug 15, 1:31pm  

just_passing_through says
Maybe they'll put the vax in our drinking water next.

I believe anything is possible now.
51   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 15, 2:49pm  

Rando Internet Horse Supply Store (.21oz per pack, 3 total)


Amazon Price
52   Robert Sproul   2021 Aug 16, 9:05am  

For anyone interested, I finally found a source for ‘mectin that is easy to navigate and with easy payment options. Not the cheapest prices, but not gouging Westerners like some sources seem to be set up to do. Pay with PayPal, as I did, or credit card instead of cumbersome bank transfer boondoggles. I ordered a full compliment of FLCCC recommended early treatment medications. Free shipping over 200 bucks. Response was within hours and order fulfillment in 1 day. Now I wait for 20-30 days for delivery. I will report at that time.
https://www.genericcures.com
54   zzyzzx   2021 Aug 20, 8:43am  

Video tutorial on how to use the horse paste:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AexpeCn08n0
55   RWSGFY   2021 Aug 20, 8:45am  

zzyzzx says
https://www.tractorsupply.com/tsc/product/durvet-ivermectin-paste-187-608-g
$6.49


Sold out in all stores around me. Not available for delivery either.
57   Robert Sproul   2021 Aug 31, 2:51pm  

Robert Sproul says
For anyone interested, I finally found a source for ‘mectin that is easy to navigate and with easy payment options. Not the cheapest prices, but not gouging Westerners like some sources seem to be set up to do. Pay with PayPal, as I did, or credit card instead of cumbersome bank transfer boondoggles. I ordered a full compliment of FLCCC recommended early treatment medications. Free shipping over 200 bucks. Response was within hours and order fulfillment in 1 day. Now I wait for 20-30 days for delivery. I will report at that time.
https://www.genericcures.com

Follow up.
Order came in 2 weeks, well packaged, looks super legit. Apparently some packages have been getting intercepted by USPS, which shows them to be among the forces arrayed trying to KILL US. This package was marked "pharmaceuticals, personal use" and had no problem.
Somebody said "eew India drugs" and I pointed out that most drugs, or at least precursor chemicals, come from India. My household is not on any regular medications but my wife keeps and uses a steroid rescue inhaler (due to childhood asthma coming back with last years wildfire smoke season [I gotta get out of here]) which are costing us a hundred bucks with discount coupons. These guys are selling them for $15 so I might order some up.
58   mell   2021 Aug 31, 3:22pm  

Patrick says

original link


Awesome interview. That man knows what he is talking about.
59   AmericanKulak   2021 Aug 31, 4:00pm  

The good news about Mail Order Pharma being common is that now the government no longer considers ordinary meds in the mail to be suspicious, and can't possibly open and inspect them all.
60   Robert Sproul   2021 Aug 31, 4:32pm  

mell says
That man knows what he is talking about.

I like this Urso dude, watched the vid and scrolling his twitter feed.
Dr. Urso
@richardursomd
·
Aug 7
During the epidemic, 49,000 Americans under the age of 18 have died of all causes. Only 331 from COVID, almost all with comorbidities. Fewer kids died of COVID-19 than heart disease, “malignant neoplasms,” suicide, homicide and birth defects, which killed hundreds of times more.
61   Rin   2021 Aug 31, 7:00pm  

People, the shithead is back! The Great Anthony Fauci is telling you ... not to take Ivermectin

https://www.ibtimes.com/what-ivermectin-dr-fauci-warns-against-taking-horse-drug-covid-treatment-amid-tragic-3283389

Tony says: "And it could potentially have toxicity, as you just mentioned, with people who have gone to poison control centers because they’ve taken the drug at a ridiculous dose and wind up getting sick," he explained. “There is no clinical evidence that indicates that this works."

Rin responds to Tony: "Hey dickweed, you've had your chance. Now, go back to your hole in Brooklyn and die of natural causes, because by law, I can't advocate anyone to take your life. Dude, you're useless and let's face it, you've made America's great NIH into the National Banana Republic Institute of Health, the N(BR)IH!"
62   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 9:01pm  

Robert Sproul says
Order came in 2 weeks, well packaged, looks super legit. Apparently some packages have been getting intercepted by USPS, which shows them to be among the forces arrayed trying to KILL US. This package was marked "pharmaceuticals, personal use" and had no problem.

Put my order in. $110 with shipping for 100 pills. The PayPal payee seemed a little sketch, some Indian dudes name, but I went for it anyway. For all I know it might be a box of sugar pills.

Reminds me of buying black-market Quaaludes in the '70s.
63   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 9:02pm  

Also stops scabies. Not sure what that is and don't want to look it up.
64   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 9:12pm  

I think the apple-flavored horse ivermectin is rather tasty. But I won't taste it again unless it seems necessary.
65   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 9:49pm  

Calling Dr. Rin @Rin please

When (if) I get my Ivermectin when and if and how much and how often should I take these little pills.




I understand any advise you give me is not from a licensed doctor, (who the fuck wants to listen to those murderous fucks), and will take full responsibility for any decisions I make.

Thanks
66   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 9:50pm  

Didn't want to do the horse paste.
67   porkchopXpress   2021 Aug 31, 10:26pm  

Onvacation says
Calling Dr. Rin @Rin please

When (if) I get my Ivermectin when and if and how much and how often should I take these little pills.

I understand any advise you give me is not from a licensed doctor, (who the fuck wants to listen to those murderous fucks), and will take full responsibility for any decisions I make.

Thanks
Just follow the FLCCC protocol at covidcriticalcare.com
68   Patrick   2021 Aug 31, 10:47pm  

I couldn't find the dosage at https://covid19criticalcare.com/

But I've previously calculated that for my weight of about 190 lbs I should take about 20 milligrams, or maybe slightly less.

For many things it's a one-dose and you're done thing, but I've seen protocols for the Fauci Flu where it was given twice: once, then again after skipping a day. So say on Monday and Wednesday.
69   Onvacation   2021 Aug 31, 10:50pm  

Patrick says
I should take about 20 milligrams.

Of horse paste?
70   porkchopXpress   2021 Aug 31, 10:51pm  

Patrick says
I couldn't find the dosage at https://covid19criticalcare.com/

But I've previously calculated that for my weight of about 190 lbs I should take about 20 milligrams, or maybe slightly less.
https://covid19criticalcare.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/11/FLCCC-Alliance-I-MASKplus-Protocol-ENGLISH.pdf

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