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US cities that defunded their police are continuing to experience historic crime waves


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2021 May 26, 9:08am   40,907 views  332 comments

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https://notthebee.com/article/us-cities-that-defunded-their-police-are-now-experiencing-historic-crime-waves?source=patrick.net

U.S. cities that virtue signaled by defunding their police departments are seeing record crime levels, forcing many city leaders to rethink their basic levels of intelligence.

Here's what has happened in a few cities that voted to slash police budgets:

Homicide grew by 44% in New York, which had 1,531 shootings and 462 murders in 2020.
Homicides also increased 36% in L.A. to 350, leading the police chief to say "a decade of progress" has been erased.
Minneapolis, the center of the "Defund the Police" movement, saw a 46% increase in murders.
Oakland, California has seen a staggering 314% increase in homicides.
Portland, Oregon has seen murders triple.
Austin, Texas has had a 26% increase in aggravated assault reports.
Chicago saw a 65% increase in homicides from June 2020 to February 2021, despite arrests dropping 53%.
Philadelphia hit a 30-year-high with homicides in 2020, with 499 people murdered.
Even smaller cities like Louisville, Kentucky had a record high of 173 murders and is on track to surpass that this year.
The New York Times reported that many such cities are now expanding their police budgets to try to deal with these outcomes that absolutely no one could have seen coming.


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146   Patrick   2022 Oct 4, 10:11am  

Democrats have many weaknesses as their failures have become obvious to all, but I think the biggest one is their toleration of and even support for violent crime.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/i-wanted-to-leave-california-before-it-was-cool/

Perhaps the thing that has pushed me over the edge is that my elected leaders don’t care about my safety.


We should all be pointing out that the Democratic Party is the party of violent crime.
150   WookieMan   2022 Oct 22, 7:46am  

NuttBoxer says

My Mom said they have record car theft in Denver since it was reclassified as a misdemeanor. Sounds like Denver is a year behind San Francisco, who'd of thought we'd ever say that.

I go to Denver annually every year outside 2 years during covid. Since 2016, although had a few layovers overnight hotel stays as well. From my short visits it seems like there's more of a bad element there from my last visit. I usually meet up with some buddies and do a Red Rocks show run with one of our favorite jam bands.

Have a bunch of past high school classmates that moved out there. Some of my IL friends go out there to ski snowboard. Most were clean outside of booze and pot. Two of the guys living out there are now on heroin. So car theft would make sense if that drug scene is ramping up for formerly normal white guys from the midwest.

I think Denver just grew way too fast with the whole legal pot stuff and fracking. With so many legal pot states now, I just don't see the migration into CO continuing at its previous pace. Much of the migration into the Denver area was druggies and potheads that weren't generally good members of society. And not that potheads cannot be good citizens, but the hardcore ones are lazy bums. As mention before, I'm into jam bands, but never got that much into pot. The element you see at shows, especially Red Rocks is interesting to say the least. Lot o drugs.

That airport can suck a horses cock as well. If you board or deplane at the wrong gate it's possible to lose two pounds of weight with the walking just to get to the god damn baggage claim even taking the train. And the baggage claim takes FOREVER there. Last time there back in September, I think I logged 2 miles of walking in just the airport. Being hyperbolic about the weight loss, but that's a poorly designed airport.
151   clambo   2022 Oct 22, 8:04am  

People are voting with their feet; lots of people are escaping NYC, NJ, CT, MA cities and moving south.
There was once a large migration northward of blacks from the South after the Civil War.
Today there's a large migration of whites southward, to escape taxes, snow, assholes, and CRIME by blacks and other brown skinned people.
152   just_passing_through   2022 Oct 22, 8:10am  

clambo says

There was once a large migration northward of blacks from the South after the Civil War.


And a lot of migration South after AC and refrigeration were invented. Not many people lived in the South at the time of the civil war because the heat and humidity are pretty unbearable without those. That's how the South wound up with so many Republicans, not some mythological party flipping the dems like to claim.
153   WookieMan   2022 Oct 22, 12:20pm  

just_passing_through says

Not many people lived in the South at the time of the civil war because the heat and humidity are pretty unbearable without those.

I don't mind it actually. IL can be just as humid and hot. I like sweating. Going to Mexico in November. Free steam room and sauna at the resort. I'll usually do a morning session around 5-6am to burn of the booze from the night before. Then drink a bunch of water to rehydrate from beer and sweating and do a couple laps walking around the resort. Then start drinking at 8-9am after a shower. Mimosa then switch to beer.

This is vacation mode, not what I do daily. If staying on resort that day the post lunch nap is critical. Just 1 hour. Then back at it. Off resort I pace myself much better. I used to get college level crazy on vacation in my 20's and even 30's. I've got the formula down now. Last vacation puke was 2020 during covid in TN. I honestly was depressed with the covid shutdown shit so I just got hammered one night. One bout of hurling and I felt better. I had fun, but that was probably the worst vacation mentally I've ever had. Other issues with the people we traveled with as well that set it off poorly.

Jesus, I'm in tangent mode lately. Sorry. TMI?
156   Patrick   2022 Oct 30, 7:19pm  

https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-11371201/LA-mom-speaks-husband-daughter-stabbed-death-Kohls-parking-lot.html


Heartbroken LA mom speaks out after her husband and daughter were BOTH stabbed to death in Kohl's parking lot during 'random' attack by homeless man
160   richwicks   2022 Dec 1, 2:01pm  

WookieMan says

That airport can suck a horses cock as well. If you board or deplane at the wrong gate it's possible to lose two pounds of weight with the walking just to get to the god damn baggage claim even taking the train.


I love the Denver Airport. Go to Chicago or NYC and see if you complain then. Midway, O'Hare, or JFK are infinitely worse. Not only are their poorly laid out, everybody that works there is a fucking asshole.
161   WookieMan   2022 Dec 1, 2:45pm  

richwicks says

WookieMan says


That airport can suck a horses cock as well. If you board or deplane at the wrong gate it's possible to lose two pounds of weight with the walking just to get to the god damn baggage claim even taking the train.


I love the Denver Airport. Go to Chicago or NYC and see if you complain then. Midway, O'Hare, or JFK are infinitely worse. Not only are their poorly laid out, everybody that works there is a fucking asshole.

Midway is fine. My home airport. You can get in and out in under 2 minutes from the furthest gate. MDW just finished updates and is much nicer than 3-4 years ago. Denver, like ATL is a shit hole of trains to get you anywhere. Even without checked bags just assume an hour to get out of the fucking building. I'll agree O'hare is shit. Midway is a good airport though. Maybe I'm biased. I also have my car there, so no dealing with that shit.

Worst airports I've been to is Kansas City and St. Louis. Pure shit. St. Thomas, USVI is shit structurally, but the people are at least nice. Cleveland was a shitty airport too. I just hate Nashville, so no good vibes there. Birmingham, AL was surprisingly nice. Miami is a shit hole. FLL is fine. I don't like Tampa, shit layout. Orlando nondescript. Pensacola, FL is small, yet well run. TX airports can eat shit. PHX Skyharbor is fine. I like Spokane, WA a lot. BZN is a favorite. Not a fan of any CA airport. DEN is a shit hole though. Wheels hit the ground you're looking at 1-2 hours to get out of that fucking labyrinth.

30-40 airports under the belt. Midway is an above average airport and I'm hyper critical of Chicago bull shit. They got Midway right. The community around it, not so much.
162   richwicks   2022 Dec 1, 2:55pm  

WookieMan says

Midway is fine. My home airport. You can get in and out in under 2 minutes from the furthest gate. MDW just finished updates and is much nicer than 3-4 years ago.


OK, if it's your HOME airport, I can see why you don't see what I do.

It's very common in a layover to be dropped off at a gate, where you have to fucking run to get to the next gate to make your transfer. It's a nightmare. I won't fly through it.

In Denver, you just hop onto the train, they have "people movers", it's easy. I lived in Boulder for a bit, that wasn't a problem at all either. I love that airport. For transfers it's great, for living there, it's acceptable. It's easy to find your next gate, and even if it's at a different terminal, no problem. I can't say I remember having difficulty getting to luggage.

The nicest airport I've been to was in was Atlanta. I misread my time on my flight at a bar, and I apologized to the waitress making my food, paid for it, and left explaining I had to get to gate X - I underestimated the time, said "please let the staff enjoy the food I ordered, I need to run, my flight has been boarding at gate X and I just didn't realize the time, sorry."

Well, they delivered it to me on my plane. No shit. There was no need to do it, it was incredibly nice for them to go out of their way, and I can't sing the praises of them enough. Such a nice thing to do, and unnecessary. I'll never shit on Atlanta's airport.
165   Patrick   2022 Dec 17, 4:01pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/researchers-blame-climate-change-violent-crime-surge/




The study assessed police records on shootings from 2015 to 2020.

The scientists said that the number of shootings increases when the temperature gets hotter.

They concluded that this means climate change is to blame for urban gun violence.
166   Patrick   2022 Dec 26, 9:02pm  

https://www.thehebrewconservative.com/2022/12/26/are-our-elites-uneasy/


Are certain elements within the elite beginning to feel uncomfortable?

The question occurred to me upon encountering this piece in the NYT:




Quote: “[…] there is broad agreement among police chiefs that the dwindling of the law enforcement talent pool is directly, though not exclusively, linked to the murder of Mr. Floyd [!] by the Minneapolis police and the widespread protests and unrest that followed.”

Are certain elements within our well-heeled urban elite so terrified of the violence and filth that are now the reality in our major cities, that the NYT is now allowed to address it? Can we now discuss the inadequacy of our urban police departments and even the hushed-up yet well-documented Floyd effect?



168   Patrick   2022 Dec 27, 12:50pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/buffalo-citizens-celebrated-christmas-by-looting-a-family-dollar

https://slaynews.com/news/buffalo-store-owners-stop-looters-with-firearms-after-historic-storm/

I think it might be the same Lebanese crowd, both Christian and Muslim, who run the stores in Buffalo like they do in Detroit. They came from a war zone, so they're not too afraid of American inner cities.
172   DhammaStep   2022 Dec 27, 3:02pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

Patrick says


https://notthebee.com/article/retailers-lost-nearly-100-billion-to-shoplifting-in-2021-amid-skyrocketing-theft-rates-during-the-pandemic


same retailers supported blm and all that lefty stuff. its only fair they enjoy fruits if their support.

It was a bit amusing to see here in NYC how it actually played out for the businesses. Most independently owned stores that had BLM signage are long gone now. While the big chains are still standing of course, now with more security. The independent business owners didn't get the memo that it was for ESG bucks, not actual virtues I guess.
173   HeadSet   2022 Dec 27, 4:07pm  

DhammaStep says

Most independently owned stores that had BLM signage are long gone now

To be fair, many businesses displayed that black square to avoid looting.
174   Onvacation   2022 Dec 27, 4:56pm  

HeadSet says

To be fair, many businesses displayed that black square to avoid looting.

We saw how did that worked out for them.
177   Patrick   2023 Jan 8, 3:12pm  

https://www.wsj.com/articles/subway-mta-bart-public-transit-new-york-boston-san-francisco-11673198418


Public Transit Goes Off the Rails With Fewer Riders, Dwindling Cash, Rising Crime
When riders stop taking subways and buses, it’s harder to keep up service. ‘It’s becoming a vicious cycle.’

Several of the nation’s largest urban mass-transit systems are at a crossroads, with ridership still depressed three years into the pandemic and federal aid running out.

While offices have largely reopened and travel has resumed, many commuters are only coming in a few days a week. That shift has left subways, buses and commuter trains operating at well below capacity—particularly on Mondays and Fridays. ...

In a consumer survey conducted by New York’s Metropolitan Transportation Authority this spring, roughly 60% of subway riders said they are riding less due to safety concerns. Major transit crimes were up 30% last year compared with 2021, according to police.


(paywall)

Crime on public transit, mostly black crime, is why America is such a car-centric culture. Cars offer a bit of protection from your fellow citizens.
179   Misc   2023 Jan 11, 10:53pm  

Next thing you know, the BART police will strike for better working conditions.

They do work?????? Don't they ????
181   GNL   2023 Jan 17, 10:21pm  

Patrick says


https://nitter.pussthecat.org/DarnelSugarfoo/status/1575699099071881216


Rosie's NATO Application
DarnelSugarfoo
16h
We're not a proper country anymore. Not even close.





This is what happens when you can't knock a bitch out.
182   Patrick   2023 Jan 27, 11:10pm  

https://public.substack.com/p/warning-the-anti-police-movement


“The rules of the game changed,” said Lande. He pointed specifically to a California law that further limits when the police can use force.

“Let’s say you see a guy, he’s just robbed a bank, he’s got a gun, he’s running now into the preschool,” said Lande. Once upon a time, that would have been enough to justify using force. Now you’ve got to be confident that a crime is “imminent”—and sometimes you’ve only got milliseconds to figure that out.

If you get it wrong, and if the skin color of the cop and the victim suit the narrative that cops are propping up the institution of white supremacy and wantonly snuffing out black bodies, you could be prosecuted as a murderer.

“It’s not tenable for my family,” Lande said.

In response, cops started quitting their jobs. A 2021 survey showed that police departments nationwide saw resignations jump by 18 percent—and retirements by 45 percent—over the previous year, with hiring decreasing by five percent. The Los Angeles Police Department has been losing 50 officers a month to retirement, more than the city can replace with recruits. Oakland lost about seven per month in 2021, with the number of officers sinking below the city’s legally mandated minimum.

Chicago has lost more cops than it has in two decades. New Orleans is backfilling its shortfall of officers with civilians. New York is losing more police officers than it has since such figures began being recorded. Minneapolis and Baltimore have similar stories. St. Louis—one of the most dangerous cities in America—has lost so many cops that there’s a seven-foot-tall, 10-foot-wide pile of uniforms from outgoing officers at police headquarters called “Mount Exodus.” ...

“When I was a cop, we were afraid we might mess up and get in trouble,” said Peter Moskos, a former Baltimore police officer who teaches at the John Jay College of Criminal Justice in New York. “But you had to do something wrong. Now cops are getting in trouble for doing exactly what they’re supposed to do.” ...

The consequence has been a surge in crime. As it turns out, police weren’t the threat to black lives that we were assured they were. Their absence was the real threat. ...

Why did the killing of black people increase rather than decrease in the two years after the killing of George Floyd and the mainstream acceptance of Black Lives Matter? Because the news media, Black Lives Matter, and the progressive politicians who support them demoralized, disempowered, and in some cases, defunded the police. Officers, in turn, responded by pulling back from routine police, quitting or retiring early, or moving to less dangerous kinds of work, including in other cities. And without police, criminals became emboldened. ...
183   Misc   2023 Jan 28, 1:21am  

Just hire Blacks as cops to replace them, like they did in Memphis.
184   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2023 Jan 28, 8:54am  

im seriously getting to a point that i think we should not have police.

everything is a crime in this country, too much government. maybe we should just drop all policing, all of it. our culture is shit. lawyers everywhere, lawsuits all the time, everything a crime or assault… fucking sick if it all.

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