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Can you post the covid prevention supplement protocol as well in this thread one more time? Trying to compare notes and dosages but they're scattered across threads. Thx!

TonyKulernus says

After prepping my body for 2 days with your original list, do you recommend taking anything on the day of the injection? Maybe half of the list?

Take the original list on the day of the shot as well because you want to maintain that supersaturated state ...

4000 mg Flax Seed Oil (mostly used as a lipid based solvent so fish oil, olive oil, coconut oil can substitute)
4000 mg Turmeric with Bioperine (I use the fresh root all grounded up w/ peppercorn & olive oil)
3000 mg Quercetin Phytosome (This is a LOT!)
3000 mg Ascorbate (Vitamin C in salt form)
2000 mg Allisure Allicin (Active ingredient in Garlic, fully isolated) --- Make sure of the Allisure trademark
1000 mg R-Lipoic Acid (Thioctic Acid which recycles all antioxidants including Glutathione)
1000 mg Enteric Coated Aspirin [ cycle with White Willow Bark ]
200 mg Zinc

1000 mg of N-Acetyl-Cysteine is also good but the R-Lipoic Acid serves as a substitute or an adjuvant.

and the day after.

And then, if you feel nothing, scale down the daily doses but whatever you do, don't stop the Quercetin Phytosome & Allisure Allicin for at least a month.

I still take, as a daily regimen

1000 mg Flax Seed Oil (or Fish Oil or Coconut Oil)
500-1000 mg Turmeric with Bioperine
250-500 mg Quercetin Phytosome (half in morning, half in evening)
500 mg Ascorbate (sometimes less because fresh fruits have plenty of it)
100 mg Allisure Allicin (if I feel anything, pop in a 400+ mg capsule just in case)
200 mg R-Lipoic Acid (that's plenty for a person w/o adult onset diabetes)
200 mg Enteric Coated Aspirin 1 day, then White Willow Bark for 3 days, then a day off, and repeat
25 mg Zinc daily, regardless of circumstances

This is why I don't ever get sick.

TonyKulernus says

One even got hospitalized for COVID 2 months after the injection.

Yes, because the vaccine is a joke which codes for yesteryear's S-protein, rendering the immune system overstimulated for the wrong thing. And then, w/o my list of supplements, the body is incapable of fighting off what's a simple process of limiting cell perfusion and proliferation of an ordinary virus along with the associated cytokine response in the lungs when that viral proliferation is out of control.

Seriously, I have a BS in Applied Chemistry and much of this is commonsense to me, not rocket science, but we have Beavis & Butthead running the show.

@Rin

Thanks for all of the advice, Rin. Saturday Oct 2 is the big day. I'm taking smaller amounts of the protocol now, to do a little prep before i start the full protocol. I will post an update when I can.

Been spending all week updating all of the beneficiaries on my financial accounts. I made it a point to ask each customer service rep whether or not they have been inundated with calls requesting the same thing. EVERY TIME, the answer is YES. It has been like 5 out of 5 now.

I’m very interested to hear about the result of this. Keep us posted.

Oh yeah, a little bit of my background before I begin ... to see if you want to change or modify dosages:

Age: between 35 to 40 years old
Weight: 190 to 200 lbs .... recently lost 20 to 25 lbs since March.
Cardio Ability: 2 mi run with 12 min/mi pace ... so i'm not the best cardio shape
Strength: (5 sets of 5) Squat: 190 lbs, Bench: 115 lbs, Deadlift: 205 lbs .... still can improve strength
Diet: Keto for the most part, 1day/wk cheat day with carbs, 1 day/wk with 22 hour fast ... but not this week because I need food to take with the supplements

Day 1 of protocol:

woke up 7:00 am, full of anxiety wondering to myself when will this clown world end. Took 2 tablets of the R-Lipoic-Acid (480 mg) + 1000 mg of NAC on empty stomach. Try to go back to sleep, instead, read zerohedge on phone. Fall further into despair. Kind of think that the R-Lipoic-Acid and the NAC are doing some good for my brain, but probably placebo effect and wishful thinking. Finally, get out of bed ... take 1000 mg of Quercetin Phytosome 20 mins before breakfast. (I think that is how you are supposed to do it.) Take about a 3rd of the protocol with breakfast

Still wasting time bullshitting with financial accounts, and making sure beneficiaries are updated.

After breakfast is digested, take another 1 tablet of R-Lipoic-Acid (240 mg) + 1000 NAC ... on what I am hoping is empty stomach. Go for a run/walk around the lake with shirt off. This is California, so sun is still out and it is still warm. 4.85 miles over 1h 11 mins. Eat lunch, and another 3rd of the protocol.

Stressed out, call IRL friend who is frequent poster on this forum. Tell him for the 10th time that everyday I wake up hoping that this nightmare clown world will end. He says it is not that bad and that things are getting better in terms of people waking up. That is just means that they will apply the screws tighter and tighter. I do not want to get caught in the collateral damage.

Make zoom appointment with Cardiologist. Earliest available is Monday. Fuck, that is 2 days after the shot. Oh well, guess he wont have the opportunity to advise against Rin's protocol. Should I request for that d-dimer test? I'm thinking that all the supplements that I am taking are just going to block any clotting action and it will be negative anyway.

Have dinner, eat the last 3rd of the protocol. Still have 1 more dosage of R-Lipoic-Acid and NAC later tonight.

I kind of think my immune system is starting to feel like a bad ass? But it also could just be all in my head.

TonyKulernus says

Try to go back to sleep, instead, read zerohedge on phone.

Haha - classic! I either do that or start premarket trading or both at the same time when I can't go back to sleep. Good luck!

TonyKulernus says

I kind of think my immune system is starting to feel like a bad ass? But it also could just be all in my head.

BTW, is Allisure Allicin, somewhere in that batch. Because for me, the high Allisure (along with the others synergistically) makes my immune system feel 'bad ass'.

mell says

Haha - classic! I either do that or start premarket trading or both at the same time when I can't go back to sleep. Good luck!

I consider it then don't because trading while groggy is like trading while drunk.

Update: Day 2 and Vaxx Day
Also, wanted to add that my height is 5' 10" .... so my BMI would put me at "overweight".

Day 2:
I followed the same protocol as Day 1. I took it easy and did not work out. I did sunbathe for 30 mins for vitamin D. Unfortunately, I did open up zerohedge and sanity took a dip when California became first state to mandate experimental mRNA vaccines for students to return to school AND a bill to introduce proof of vaccination for domestic flights. Two clown world happenings in one day. Call IRL friend on this board again, and he says I will never be able to go back to being a normie after realizing how fucked up the world really is. Not good for mental health.

Anyway, in addition to Rin's protocol, I also grew and ate my own broccoli sprouts for more glutathione. I have one of those zojirushi on-demand hot water dispensers. It dispenses water at 75F, and i will throw the brocolli sprouts in there when it cools down a few degrees to around 72F, and leave it in there for 10 mins, then take out the broccoli sprouts and just eat it like that semi cooked. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z7buU-PK7_I

Second supplement that I added was medicinal mushrooms pills. I took 6 tablets of Host Defense My Community per day. I usually start take these if I have something important coming up and I really do not want to be sick. These are Paul Stamet's brand of mushroom supplements. He is one of the top mycologists in the world. But I think that garlic and quite possibly Allisure Allicin may have some anti-fungal properties. So, I am not sure if I am counter acting any immune system benefit that these expensive mushrooms pills are providing to me.

Third supplement that I have been taking is extra virgin cod liver oil + high vitamin butter oil. This is a recommendation from the Westin A Price foundation, which many doctors in the medical establishment consider quackery. However, this is the one supplement that I have ever taken and had noticeable effects. I took it for about a week, and one morning, I rubbed my nose after waking up, and it was oily. Then I walked to the bathroom mirror, and my forehead was also oily and shiny. It was like holy shit, I am getting my skin back from 10 years ago. My face had gradually stopped producing oil since entering my mid thirties, but I seem to have gotten a little bit of youth back. I think it is also helping to clear up the Keratosis Pilaris on my shoulder.


Vaxx Day:
Continued with the protocol. And most of the day was filled with dread. Appointment was at 4:00 pm at Kaiser. Went there, and I did not even receive anything to sign about waiving my rights away. WTF. All of the EUA disclosures and possible risks were given as a PDF right after making the appointment. Which I believe that most people would gloss over. The nurse did not explain anything to me. She just had me confirm my name and date of birth and what vaccine I was taking. She could tell that I did not want to be there and was quite nervous. I said that I only needed this vaccine so I can travel to see my wife and kids in another country. She administered the injection. It didn't hurt that much. I was stressed, but imagining a slew of adenoviruses getting murdered upon arrival by Quercetin, Zinc, and Vitamin C offered a little bit of respite.

It is 1:00 AM PST now .... 9 hours post injection. I do not feel anything yet. My friend who took the J&J said the fever kicked for him 12 hours later. So, if that were to happen to me, it will kick in at 4:00 AM. So far, no fever, no arm soreness. It is weird, and this may be psychosomatic, but I do feel some kind of low grade dull pain in my right testical once in a while. It comes and goes. I would put it as a 1 or .5 out of 10 for pain. It is more like an annoyance. And it could be all just in my head because of my reading into the side effects.

Will update tomorrow.

Regarding Allisure Allicin. Yes, it is in the mix for me. It is fucking expensive. And I ended up buying 2 bottles of the 450 mg strength. First, I bought the cheapest one which was sold by an Amazon 3rd party. The seller had a lot of positive feedback. But, when I read reviews, some of them said watch out for fakes, so I bought another bottle which was shipped and sold by Amazon.com which was priced higher. It turns out that the bottles were different. I thought the 3rd party one was fake. I called up the US number on the bottle, it turns out that there are more than 1 manufacturer for this, and the 3rd party Amazon seems to be the US version and the shipped and sold by Amazon.com one seems to be the UK version. The tablets look and smell identical. So, I believe that both are legitimate.

I know it's too late now and you're most likely fine bit did you ask the nurse to aspire? Always ask to aspire! Sounds like the protocol is working.

We’re on the edge of our seats. Update please.

TonyKulernus says

Regarding Allisure Allicin. Yes, it is in the mix for me. It is fucking expensive. And I ended up buying 2 bottles of the 450 mg strength. First, I bought the cheapest one which was sold by an Amazon 3rd party. The seller had a lot of positive feedback. But, when I read reviews, some of them said watch out for fakes, so I bought another bottle which was shipped and sold by Amazon.com which was priced higher. It turns out that the bottles were different. I thought the 3rd party one was fake. I called up the US number on the bottle, it turns out that there are more than 1 manufacturer for this, and the 3rd party Amazon seems to be the US version and the shipped and sold by Amazon.com one seems to be the UK version. The tablets look and smell identical. So, I believe that both are legitimate.

IMHO the best source for allicin is here:
https://www.allicin.co.uk/product/13/23/allimed___100_capsule_pack

Allimed has 450 mg of Allicin per capsule, and this is a 100 capsule pack.

This just out on J&J:
https://www.zerohedge.com/covid-19/jj-vaccine-possibly-linked-two-more-serious-health-conditions-eu-regulator-finds

J&J Vaccine Possibly Linked To Two More Serious Health Conditions, EU Regulator Finds

“The PRAC has concluded that there is a possible link to rare cases of venous thromboembolism (VTE) with COVID-19 Vaccine Janssen,” the committee meeting highlights stated.

“Very low levels of blood platelets can be associated with bleeding, and have serious health consequences,” the committee said.

10:30 AM - 18.5 hours post injection

I am still alive. Weird testical pain/annoyance is kind of on an off. I would say, that the pain level is .5 out of 10 ... and it is on 33% of the time, and off 66% of the time when I do not think about it. It really may be psychosomatic. Same thing with lower stomach ... there is 1 out of 10 discomfort once in a while that last for 20 or 30 mins then goes away. This might also be due to my mental state as well. Still no sore arm... only a little bit of annoyance at the injection site. Fever has not kicked in. Did we beat this, Rin?

Woke up at 2:30 AM .... a little bit freaked out. Left arm had pins and needles feeling. This happens once in a while normally when I sleep on the floor on my son's play mat. (I do this because it is better for my back.) It happens because if I lay down against the hard floor, sometimes I'm cutting off blood supply to either arm or leg. However, I recently have not been getting this feeling because of all of the weight that I have recently lost. So, when it came back again last night, it was a bit disturbing. The pins and needles feeling seemed to be subsiding slower than normal too. (again, maybe because of my mental state) I moved back to my normal bed because I know I wont have problems cutting off my own circulation on a mattress. Quickly, go on phone and look up symptoms of blood clots in arm, in leg, in lungs, anywhere. Usually, a serious blood clot can look like swelling or bruising with a lot of pain and elevated heart rate. Heart rate on garmin watch said 60 bpm, which is about normal during sleep.... so my heart was not freaking out. Does it not know what is going on? Still wondering if it was it a mini clot? I dont know. I went back to sleep on mattress for the rest of the night, and had moderately restful sleep until 8ish.

Side note, starting yesterday, I did notice that going on Rin's protocol did seem to have an effect in thinning out my blood. I can kind of tell when I am picking at the small little pimples on my shoulder. The blood is a little bit redder and does not clot as fast. Sorry for the gross visual, but this is an interesting observation that I have made.

I am planning to go 75% of Rin's protocol today to start tapering off. I'll swap out the Asprin with White WIllow Bark. After reading about the 2 new adverse events that porkchopexpress has posted, I am now thinking about adding 1 tablet of Nattokinase and going to the japanese store to pick up a few servings of real Natto as well. Apparently, from what I have read, Nattokinase removes all of the vitamin K2, and that is because the K2 actually supports blood clotting. But natto as a whole food does have the natural vitamin K2 in tact. And I agree with Rin that consuming natto as a whole food is probably better than just the supplement.

I just wish clown world would end.

Oh yeah, one more comment I wanted to add. Yesterday at the injection, the nurse asked me which arm do I want to be injected. I did not give an answer right away. She asked which hand do I write with so she could put it in the other arm. In my mind, the logic was "Well, my heart is on my left side of the body, so let's go with my right arm. That is more distance that the spike protiens need to travel before they give me myocarditis."

Then after getting the injection she said to move my arm around to help get things to circulate. My first thought was "Do the opposite that the government tells me to do." So for the whole day, I tried to keep my arm stationary and below my heart level. Not sure if that was helpful or detrimental, but this seems to be the best advice in the age of clown world.

Ok Tony, it's Monday afternoon, PST to EST, how are things going?

Update 2:00 PM - 1 day, 21 hours post injection

Physically, I am ok so far, except for being hyper aware of any pain, discomfort or weirdness going on. Mentally, I am not ok, as I am anticipating what is coming down the pipeline as far as mandates, the economy, supply chains, shortages. Testical discomfort seems to have subsided by 90%..... it was only a .5 out of 10 anyway, so not something to be super worried about, but still weird to notice. Lower abdomen discomfort seems to have subsided by 90% also. This was only a .5 out of 10. Injection site discomfort has actually increased since yesterday. I can feel discomfort when applying pressure to the area. Like when I lie in bed on my side or rub it. I would say discomfort when touching it is about 2 out of 10. It is like if you asked a 6 year old kid to punch you in the upper deltoid as hard as he could and you took the punch without flexing or defending. And the discomfort would be the same level as that punch a few hours later. So, not too bad. I did not have swollen arms, or have entire arm disabled. I did not experience any fatigue. (I think? I have been taking it easy thus far.) Still no fever.

I had a telehealth appointment with a cardiologist in Missouri. I did let him know at the beginning that I was very concerned with the adverse side effects of the gene therapy shots. He had the opinion that the virus is more dangerous than the vaxx. In his practice, he has seen many people with blood issues and heart issues due to the virus, but no one because of adverse events. This was surprising to me. He also said mRNA vaccines have been in development for 15 years already, and so they are not an unknown technology... we just haven't used it widespread in humans until now. Hearing this was irritating to me to no end.

Anyway, I went over the protocol and the results. He said he could not comment on whether or not that was the actual reason why I did not suffer any fever or sore arm, as many others got the vaxx and also do not feel anything afterwards. He knew they were high dosages, but he was not ready to believe that they had much of an effect on the vaxx. He could only go as far as to accept that those supplements aided my body in preparing for an immunization (poison) and having them would be better than not having them. He did not know why flaxseed oil was there. I just said that I read that it had some beneficial properties. I also mentioned that the goal was to destroy the adenovirus before it could hijack my cells to produce spike proteins, and said they were worthless because they are coded to LAST YEAR'S WUHAN STRAIN. He could not refute me on that point, which gave me some satisfaction.

I did ask about getting a d-dimer test. He said that it can tell you that clots are forming, however, clots forming can happen due to any multitude of reasons... like trauma or falling or many things, and if the d-dimer levels were elevated, then we would need to go on and run more tests to see what is causing elevated d-dimer levels. So, if the purpose was to see if the injection was causing it, it would just be a fruitless endeavor. And he also asked me what actions would I take if we did find elevated d-dimer levels.

This doc is really big on glutathione and mitochondrial support. So, he did approve of the supplements that supported glutathione production. He also was happy that I spend some time every day going out in the sun to get Vitamin D instead of relying on the supplement. One of his big focuses was on circadian rhythm, so he said to get some heavy duty blue light blockers to wear at night, and also to go out and get some morning sun in the day time, and also get some afternoon sunshine as well. He also mentioned that grounding and earthing was a thing that can help. It was the first time I have heard about it, and there are studies on it on pubmed. So that was interesting.

Here was his action plan to keep me safe as possible for the flight considering that I was paranoid about flying so soon after the shot and increased risk of blood clots on the plane:

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See every sunrise without anything between your eyes and the sun (no glasses/contacts/sunglasses/windows). This light helps set your circadian rhythms for the day. Goal 20 minutes daily.
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D-minder Pro app to track vitamin D and solar exposure
Goal Vitamin D level is 50-60
Timeshifter app to plan light environment and when to eat/sleep on plane
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Water:
- avoid tap water with fluoride (also avoid toothpaste with fluoride - Toms makes a fluoride free one)
- Spring, Glacial, Reverse Osmosis water are preferred since naturally fluoride free
- Drink at least 1/2 ounce of water per pound of body weight
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***Blue blocking glasses Information***
- Key time to use these glasses is after sunset when using technology with screens or when under artificial light. (If you have the "red" lenses then start wearing them at this time or within 1 hour of bedtime). Lenses should block up to 550 nm
- The "yellow" lenses are ideally to be worn during the daytime anytime you are inside and using technology with screens or when you are under artificial light. (These will be the "yellow" lenses). These lenses should block up to 450nm or 465nm
- There are companies that make "clip on" and wrap around glasses for those that wear prescription glasses
- There are links and discount codes for these companies on https://drtwyman.com
(Products & Supplements) tab
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Consider fasting on the plane or only eating a low carb diet to lessen oxidative stress and to help set circadian rhythms
Earthing/Grounding - Minimum of 20 minutes daily to lower inflammation and to improve blood flow
Recommend compression stockings on the plan. Knee high
Get up and walk around at least once per hour on the plane
While in the seat recommend that you pump your calves up and down a few times every hour
Medications/Supplements to be taken a few days prior, during, and after flying to Asia:

Aspirin no more than 325mg daily
CoQ10 300mg twice a day to lower oxidative stress
Vitamin C 3000mg twice per day
Liposomal gluathione 750mg twice per day

Neo40
1 tab twice per day
Improves endothelial function by increasing nitric oxide
https://www.humann.com/get_neo40-1/

TonyKulernus says

I need to get the J&J shot so that I can travel to see my wife and kids.

Is it worth your life?

TonyKulernus says

He also said mRNA vaccines have been in development for 15 years already, and so they are not an unknown technology... we just haven't used it widespread in humans until now. Hearing this was irritating to me to no end.

You missed an opportunity to ask him to name any other mRNA injection that has been in use in humans or animals outside of trials and also why he believes that the vaccines gives complete immunity to the companies making them.

TonyKulernus says

This doc is really big on glutathione and mitochondrial support.

Well, I guess that's better than nothing.

Does he know about R-Lipoic Acid and its effects on mitochondrial health?

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/17917164/

@Rin

I finally found NAC. How often am I supposed to take it?

I take 600mg daily as a maintenance dose

porkchopexpress says

I take 600mg daily as a maintenance dose

I'd say, take the R-Lipoic Acid, 200 mg (or more if you have any symptoms of adult on-set diabetes) every day but cycle the N-Acetyl-Cysteine, 600 mg, every other day, as it's not L-Cysteine, the amino acid, but a modified one which is an orphan drug.

Does Nac have value every other day?

porkchopexpress says

Does Nac have value every other day?

NAC, in some ways, is a high speed version of its predecessor, L-Cysteine, the essential amino acid. Since you're getting L-Cysteine from your diet anyways, why have its medicinal counterpart, every day of the week?

Since you get the Glutathione redox effects from R-Lipoic Acid, all natural (but found in lower amounts in humans), you don't need to daily supersaturate w/ the NAC counterpart.

This then prevents your body from adapting to NAC being in high amounts so that its medicinal effect remain, while only at 500 to 1000 mg per dosage, without developing tolerance over time.

Hello Tony, it's been a few days. We all want to know if the S-Protein has reared its ugly head in your system?

Antiviral Activities of Quercetin and Isoquercitrin Against Human Herpesviruses
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC7287991/

"The antiviral activities of quercetin and isoquercitrin against herpes simplex virus type 1 (HSV-1) and 2 (HSV-2) were extensively reported [29,30,31,32,33,34]. Quercetin and isoquercitrin suppress NF-κB activation in HSV-1-infected cells [31,33]. Quercetin was also reported to reduce HSV-1-induced interferon (IFN) regulatory factor 3 (IRF3) activation [33] or to inhibit HSV-1 entry into host cells [31]. By performing pre- and post-treatment studies, quercetin was reported to inhibit HSV-1 infection in the early stages of the viral life cycle (from 0 to 2 h postinfection) [30]."

If anyone here as herpes outbreaks, I'd be interested in seeing if a Quercetin regimen stops them. According to this, it can also reduce the chance of initial infection.

More studies show that Zinc helps treat/prevent herpes outbreaks. Imagine if you add Quercetin AND Zinc...would that work synergistically to prevent/treat herpes (or HIV) even more since Quercetin is a Zinc ionophore?
https://www.progressivehealth.com/zinc-herpes.htm

Quercetin Naturally Blocks HIV
https://www.quercetin.com/health-benefits/antimicrobial-effects-of-quercetin/hiv
https://thescipub.com/abstract/10.3844/ajidsp.2009.135.141

Zinc is also a fighter against HIV
https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6628855/

Again, Q plus Z may work wonders against this or any virus because of their power individually, but moreso the greater power in unison.

@rin - do you think the concentrations you're proposing would be enough to fend off HIV or HSV according to these studies, or would it require ingesting like 5000mg a day? I'm not smart enough to equate the two.

porkchopexpress says

@rin - do you think the concentrations you're proposing would be enough to fend off HIV or HSV according to these studies, or would it require ingesting like 5000mg a day? I'm not smart enough to equate the two.

Right now, improving Quercetin delivery is the key.

So if you look at the supplement Quercetin Phytosome, basically, linking Quercetin with some oil makes it 20 times more bioavailable than the usual Quercetin Dihydrate in the GI tract.

But then, when it's suspended in a nano-particulate, that delivery may be even greater and exert a powerful anti-tumor effect.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31284873/

Excerpt: "The cancer-preventive activity of quercetin is well documented due to its anti-inflammatory, anti-proliferative and anti-angiogenic activities. However, poor water solubility and delivery, chemical instability, short half-life, and low-bioavailability of quercetin limit its clinical application in cancer chemoprevention. A better understanding of the molecular mechanism of controlled and regulated drug delivery is essential for the development of novel and effective therapies. To overcome the limitations of accessibility by quercetin, it can be delivered as nanoconjugated quercetin. Nanoconjugated quercetin has attracted much attention due to its controlled drug release, long retention in tumor, enhanced anticancer potential, and promising clinical application."

I suspect when we've mastered how to get Quercetin into any crevasse in the body, that it's true potential as a universal antiviral will be well exposed which in effect, lowers the revenue of any Big Pharma antiviral crew to a big $0 because it'll all be done by generic supplement producers.

Rin says

lowers the revenue of any Big Pharma antiviral crew to a big $0 because it'll all be done by generic supplement producers.

In addition, cancer may be turned into a manageable condition vs a death sentence if the nano-particulate Quercetin can control tumor angiogenisis (forming blood vessels to feed itself) along with tumor metastasis real-time.