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2021 Jul 6, 9:55am   4,917 views  97 comments

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https://jayriverlong.github.io/2021/07/05/movies.html

... At this point, I feel exhausted by movies. I don’t enjoy them anymore. Every couple of days I curl up on the couch at 10pm, scroll through Amazon Prime video, and pick something to see. It’s almost always a disappointment. This has been going on for months. I feel like I’m scraping the bottom of the barrel. The mere thought of sitting through another blockbuster for two hours fills me with dread, and a pre-emptive boredom so overwhelming that I’d rather go do the dishes.

I compare that to when I was a kid, and even movies that objectively weren’t very good would have me totally immersed. Those films of childhood were special – they’d fill me with wonder and ideas, inspiration for scenes to then recreate in The Sims or Lego. These days, sometimes I’m lucky and find that feeling of immersion and awe again. But it happens so rarely that it no longer feels worth the effort to rake for diamonds in the muck.

What happened? I have a couple of ideas, but no firm conclusions: ...

Self-Censorship. Comedy was big in the early 2000s. Movies like Superbad or the Hangover had meaningful impacts on popular culture. But since 2012, the only successful comedies have been animations aimed at young children.1 The 2000s-era teen/adult comedy has died out, despite immense popularity. Why?2 Adult comedy thrives on irreverence. Over the past decade, we’ve become touchy about what’s okay to say or laugh at. Borat could not be made today.3 More generally, making challenging, contrarian films these days basically requires you to be an established auteur. Otherwise, the constraints on what films can get made (funded) grow tighter every year, and viewers get more of the same.

Most Stories are the Same. Kurt Vonnegut once said that there are only six types of story. The fundamental constraints of the medium (and to a lesser extent, audience preferences) lead to the same story being told, over and over again. If you’ve seen an archetypal movie like The Godfather, then there are hundreds of films that will feel like boring, worse copies. Having seen lots of movies, I do not recall the last time I felt surprised watching a movie.

You Learn the Tricks. As an experienced viewer, you learn the directors’ tools. The main character isn’t going to die this early, there’s another hour in the movie. That’s probably a Chekhov’s gun. As you learn all the common tropes and devices, it becomes impossible not to notice them, and movies become yet another layer of predictable.

Passive Media Consumption is Fundamentally Bad. Many years ago, a friend tried to convince me that the passive consumption of any media – film or television, maybe even music – was bad for the soul. To unthinkingly let a wave of content break over you is to inundate yourself with noise, to be filled with other people’s mediocre thoughts and games. Certainly, passively consuming media usually leaves me disillusioned: time spent, but nothing gained. (Porn is the emptiest calorie of them all.) Film is passive consumption by definition, because it’s best when you’re fully immersed. I’m not sure if I agree that all media is thus fundamentally and inescapably bad, but much of it is.
Thus comes the slow disappointment of watching movies. First you don’t understand them. Then you understand them, and they’re captivating. Then you understand them too well, and they’re boring. Special effects become ordinary, deep movies become dull, groundbreaking themes become repetitive.4 You realize some revered directors are just hacks.5

Perhaps worst of all is the realization that the movies you like are very rare, and as you dive deep into film, you’re on a quest for the one-in-a-hundred experience. One of my favorite movies is Eyes Wide Shut. I have seen all movies that anyone on the internet has recommended as being “like Eyes Wide Shut”. Spoiler alert: none of them are. Not even close. Pulp Fiction had mass appeal, many directors tried to copy it, but it remains unique. One of the great things about movies is how many there are – you’d think the variety is enormous – but as per points 1-4 above, it’s actually surprisingly narrow.

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59   Bd6r   2022 Feb 21, 2:25pm  

mell says
Not saying you're wrong, just that the US and Europe selectively choose to honor treaties. Yugoslavia was pretty much divided up as the US and Europe saw fit, in the face of any treaties which suddenly didn't matter anymore. I don't expect Russia to act any differently after the US and Europe showed them how it's done. Generally I am in favor of secessions over war or local squashing, anywhere and everywhere. Usually you can come to an agreement via diplomacy. If TX or FL decided to secede tomorrow by vote, would we want xiden to send tanks to squash it since it was likely caused by "disinformation"? ;)

I believe the only part of Yugoslavia which did NOT have the right to secede was Kosovo (as it was not a full-fledged republic, but just an autonomous one within Serbia). This was the dangerous/illegal precedent to which Russia is now pointing. Every other secession in Yugoslavia was probably legal, and we can remember that Czech Rep and Slovakia split without any bloodshed and ill will (and presumably without CIA meddling). Most peoples want their national state.

BTW I was in Yugoslavia few times, incl a few months in 1991 and saw some of that with my own eyes, and I can speak one of their languages...sort of since I have forgotten a lot because I have not used it lately. My Yugoslav friends even in 1989 were telling that this country will blow up which I did not believe at that time given decent life quality and overall friendliness of people.
60   richwicks   2022 Feb 21, 8:29pm  

Onvacation says
FuckCCP89 says

PS. Are you really that low IQ or it's the 50 Rubles talking?

I have met Rich and he is quite smart and not KGB. A bit loud and drinks a lot but he seems like a nice guy. He might be FBI or CIA or some other obscure US intelligence agency but he probably is not working for the Russians.


If I was a piece of shit intelligence agent, I'll tell you that in this day and age, I'd really would work for the FSB before I'd work for the CIA or the FIB. I view our intelligence agencies as being the biggest impediments to our Constitution and they do nothing but damage this country.

Yeah, and I do drink way too much. Fortunately I'm becoming noticeably fat, so, I'll move on to my next phase of working out and getting into shape. I need a vice, and I go through cycles. I use to follow a military workout.

Anyhow, people have an entirely wrong idea of what it's like to be an intelligence agent. They are people that have no moral imperative at all, they just take orders and carry them out regardless of how immoral it is. Some I imagine do it believing they're doing it for a higher good. Josef Mengele believed he did nothing wrong right up until he died. Intelligence agents are not allowed to think independently.

Here's an example, Epstein was allowed to run a child brothel ring as a honey trap, and this was done with the FULL knowledge of our intelligence agencies. 1/2 of the child pornography websites are run by our intelligence agencies. The CIA got the nickname of the Cocaine Importation Agency during the Vietnam war. There was the King Suicide letters back in the 1960's and it's almost certain the FIB murdered King.
61   Patrick   2022 Jun 30, 9:32am  

https://babylonbee.com/news/amazon-confirms-rings-of-power-orcs-will-be-wearing-maga-hats




JUN 23, 2022
U.S. - Amazon has given fans a first look at the Orc character design in the studio's upcoming Rings of Power show, and it looks like MAGA hats are back on the menu.

That's right: according to the showrunners, the evil, twisted baddies in Amazon's take on the Lord of the Rings universe will be wearing MAGA hats "to show how evil they really are."

"We couldn't think of a better way to show how degraded and awful the Orcs are," said one producer. "This is what Tolkien would have wanted: for us to inject modern-day politics into his universe, rather than to allow the themes to remain timeless and untainted by cringey and on-the-nose representations of political figures."

"Because if we can't compare Sauron to Trump, how are we supposed to get our point across?"

To help drive home the point, just in case audiences don't get it, the good guys in the series will be wearing Pride pins and "Resist" T-shirts, and Galadriel will have purple hair and spend most of her screen time decrying white supremacy.

Sauron will also have orange hair and a "bad suntan" while calling everything "tremendous", with his running catchphrase being "Make Middle Earth Great Again", according to sources.
62   exfatguy   2022 Jun 30, 9:59am  

I honestly don't have the attention span for new movies. Am I just old? I'll still gladly watch the movies I loved in my youth (primarily 80s comedies), but nothing today stands out to me. Invariably I'll find myself reaching for my phone.
63   richwicks   2022 Jul 2, 5:28pm  

exfatguy says

I honestly don't have the attention span for new movies. Am I just old?


Well maybe, but I used to be a movie buff, and the quality of the AVERAGE film has gone way down.

When making a film was expensive, they had to put in some effort into it. This was why franchises went to SUCK so fast, they'd depend on the name of the property to bring people in rather than building a quality film. This is why Star Trek 4 was a comedy, and a pretty lousy one at that, but CHEAP.

Here's a film that was made for 15,000 Euros.


original link


A lot of films that were made in the 1980's and 1990's are now parodies of themselves. The film above is a comedy, but it hits all the notes of a typical 1990's science fiction flick.

Warning: it's subtitled.
66   KgK one   2025 Feb 23, 10:52am  

Squid games 1st season was great,

2nd season they added a character who doesn't have money to chop off his/ her dick for sex change, so risking life to get that money. Irony is lot of women hate being women due to period etc, yet this person wants to turn into a ugly chick.

Woke ahit not needed here
67   WookieMan   2025 Feb 23, 10:56am  

Patrick says





There's a high probability I'll never watch a movie at a theater ever again. Why? The movies and experience sucks ass.

I can and will do much better at my home. I don't watch TV so I never see new movie ads. If it's a good movie I'll hear about it. Not paying $20 a person to watch a movie I'll likely not like. I can wait.
68   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 23, 10:59am  

What I find I like nowdays are real slow burns. Like as long as I can see a real story developing, it can go on forever. It’s no wonder one of my favorite non sci fi movies as a teenager was Dancing With Wolves.

Horizon got terrible reviews but I liked it. Loving Dark Winds on AMC, and Longmire was one of the best shows I’ve seen. All have long buildups and tremendous story telling and character development. Same thing with Landman. Billy Bob is pretty fantastic. I’m halfway through season 2 of Yellowjackets and not certain if I like it or not. The premise itself is great but almost all the characters are very flawed in a terrible mental illness sort of way. And while it’s not exactly a slow burn, it’s very heavy in the story telling and development. I think my biggest issue is I compare the situation to what boys would do and it seems there would be none of the drama. Like as soon as they found the cabin, it would be an immediate division of roles and that would be that. They’d work on their own tasks, help out when necessary, and basically survive and even thrive without issue, probably shoring up the cabin as well. In Yellowjackets too many of the characters are annoying and the males are beta’s and it’s irritating. My wife already stopped watching and not sure if I’ll watch a third season.
69   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   2025 Feb 23, 11:00am  

WookieMan says

Patrick says






There's a high probability I'll never watch a movie at a theater ever again. Why? The movies and experience sucks ass.

I can and will do much better at my home. I don't watch TV so I never see new movie ads. If it's a good movie I'll hear about it. Not paying $20 a person to watch a movie I'll likely not like. I can wait.


Haven’t been to a movie in a theatre since before Covid…maybe 5-6 years.
70   Tenpoundbass   2025 Feb 23, 11:30am  

I've gone through all of the Chinese and Korean movies. The one's left that they are currently producing in Korea are Metrosexual nonsense, and in China they are producing either Communist propaganda movies, or crappy Marvel style fantasy bull crap.

I haven't seen a decent French title in years. I have been watching Russian movies lately. Started with their WWII movies, now watching dramas and medieval historical titles. I'm surprised how brutally anti Communist the current movies are. There's big difference between movies produced in the 70's through early 90's and their later movies. Current flicks do not paint Bolsheviks and Soviets in a positive light.

I hope Mel Gibson gets back to work soon to Make Hollywood Great Again.
71   Tenpoundbass   2025 Feb 23, 11:34am  

Oh and Trump should address the woke DEI bullshit going on with Google Youtube's CC automatic captions.
For a bunch of Sissi's that bitch and moan about misgendering. When you watch foreign titles on Youtube, you have keep in mind that girls are boys and boys are girls. Mother is Father, and Wife is Husband and so on and so forth. It's hilarious watching a Russian flick and see the most macho guy in the scene being told he got a letter from her husband. Fucking degenerate scumbags.
72   WookieMan   2025 Feb 24, 6:44pm  

FuckTheMainstreamMedia says

It’s no wonder one of my favorite non sci fi movies as a teenager was Dancing With Wolves.

I don't care for Costner much, but it was a good movie. Saw it in the theater as a kid with my mom and sister. That SOB was long. It was intriguing about that era during that time. Don't think it was an all time great, but it was good.
73   AD   2025 Feb 24, 9:17pm  

Tenpoundbass says

I hope Mel Gibson gets back to work soon to Make Hollywood Great Again.


When Bill Clinton signed the free trade agreement with China, then that was when China went all in with its investments in (and CONTROL of) Hollywood.

More support is needed for independent studios to put on good movies without being under the thumb of the Chicoms.

And fuck China as far as not making a movie that does not appeal to Chinese moviegoers.

.
74   Ceffer   2025 Feb 24, 10:17pm  

If anybody has ever been annoyed by consuming narcissism, snobbery and appetite fetishistic elitism of 'foodies', then this is a movie for you.

Ralph Fiennes is a perfect caricature with a twisted twist.


75   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Feb 24, 11:40pm  

AD says

When Bill Clinton signed the free trade agreement with China, then that was when China went all in with its investments in (and CONTROL of) Hollywood.

I'd say after that. It was around 2010, because before that China had other fish to fry, like buying up and shutting down our rare earth mining and refining and moving the knowledge base to CHYna.

But GOOD NEWS.

Kathleen Kennedy set to RETIRE.
77   Patrick   2025 Feb 25, 7:17pm  

Ceffer says

Ralph Fiennes is a perfect caricature with a twisted twist.


I found him annoying even before seeing that movie. Now I want to avoid all movies with him in them.
78   Patrick   2025 Jul 16, 9:59am  

https://palaceintrigue.substack.com/p/superman-the-end-of-woke-movies


As for Barbie, though, I refused to see that movie on principle. To call it woke or feminist wouldn’t even be doing it justice—the movie is virulently, rabidly, emphatically anti-male. Its message is that men are unneeded and the world would be better off if all men just disappeared. I will not support a movie like that but unfortunately a lot of people did—and I’d wager the vast majority of them did so unknowingly, thinking they were just going to see a nice saccharine fun happy movie about a doll they played with as a kid.

And that’s how the wokes operate. It’s all Trojan horses. They can never just openly or explicitly push their toxic sludge on the masses—it always gets rejected. Because by definition, most Americans aren’t radical woke radicals. It’s an inherently fringe viewpoint, yet this ultra radical worldview (which, for the record is that all white men should be exterminated) has seemingly taken over Hollywood. So that’s why they always have to use the back door. Slip it in there. Bait and switch you with it. It’s an inherently fringe and radical ideology so it has to be subtly pushed on the masses—slow drip, subliminally almost—in order to take root.

Don’t for a second think that they don’t know how to push radical ideology on an inherently hostile population. They do. They worked all this stuff out in the 60s with “Rules for Radicals” by Saul Alinsky.

Anyway, Hollywood has really been on a hard left/woke turn the past decade or so, and it’s gotten especially terrible and noticeable since 2020. Nowhere was this more apparent than with Disney, the largest entertainment corporation in America. They’ve turned the Marvel brand ultra-woke. Star Wars, too. They’ve even woke-ified the live-action remakes to their animated classics.

Everything is gender and race-swapped now: all the white males have got to go! Basically any Disney movie nowadays is predictable: you know any male character in the movie is either going to be the Big Bad Guy (evil), useless and incompetent, or a total straw man stand in to show just how hard women have it in today’s world (like a guy saying something ridiculously sexist that the movie pretends is totally commonplace.) You know the woman is going to have no flaws and be a total Mary Sue, and the only real lesson of the movie is that “society” (aka the Patriarchy) or the men in her life were just holding her back from reaching her true awesome potential.

Women will kick the living shit out of guys twice their size in these movies, too. Because women aren’t just as mentally capable as men—oh, no. They’re PHYSICALLY equal to men as well. In fact, they’re superior PHYSICALLY. And mentally, too, for that matter. Women are simply better than men in every conceivable way. Men are, as a species, useless and irredeemable.

Once you know these rules, you can pretty much predict how not only every Disney movie is going to go, but a lot of other shows and movies as well. These Woke rules have taken over a large chunk of the entertainment industry.

And so for this reason, I’ve largely checked out of movies. I don’t go anymore. For one thing I don’t want to support such a toxic, hateful and frankly idiotic ideology. But another reason is, it’s just boring. It’s awful and predictable content. Again, we already know exactly how it’s going to go: no man can ever do anything good, he’s always got to be shown up or saved by a woman. Women are all powerful and all knowing, flawless divine beings. (Somehow women are simultaneously all powerful yet held back by incompetent and idiotic males—explain that one).

Movies have been put into a straitjacket by these woke rules, and it turns out you can’t really write a good story when your main goal is to push a particular radical and insane political message. ...

As long as you’re not a fucking idiot, you can see which way the winds are blowing. Disney’s stock price is in the shitter (down 40% over the past 4 years). Trump just dominated in the 2024 election.

The American public is sick of woke. And you will go broke pushing it down their throats. Now I understand these massive companies largely no longer care about money, they just push whatever social engineering BlackRock and Vanguard tell them to, because money ultimately doesn’t matter anymore as they’ll just have the Fed print trillions of dollars to bail them out if things ever actually get bad.
80   WookieMan   2025 Aug 3, 9:38am  

MolotovCocktail says




https://x.com/J0hnADouglas/status/1951674591656526222

It is content though. There's nothing new or creative. Too many spin offs and remakes. When was the last time there was a Big Lebowski? Their follow ups sucked, but comedies like Super Troopers. There are rarely original movies anymore.

Need to get away from the theater model for movies as well. Little motivation to get a movie in the theater and split the profit. I'd rather spend $100, own the movie for life and watch it at home. Not wait 3-4 months or have to go to a theater for probably over $100 for a family of 5.
81   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 3, 9:54am  

WookieMan says

It is content though


That's what the thread talks about.
83   HeadSet   2025 Aug 4, 8:10pm  

I can see why MCU movies are no longer appealing as they are for adolescents, and people are finally growing up.
84   RC2006   2025 Aug 5, 8:40am  




Hollywood is such a dumpster fire, how do some of these movies make it to the light of day. Hollywood is self destructing releasing non stop horrible movies.
85   PeopleUnited   2025 Aug 5, 3:34pm  

HeadSet says

I can see why MCU movies are no longer appealing as they are for adolescents, and people are finally growing up.

Perhaps, but I think it is casting and writing that play a huge role here. None of the stars of that picture are interesting to me. I can only imagine the story sucks too.
86   Ceffer   2025 Aug 5, 3:44pm  

LOL! They just had to make a 'black' version of War of the Worlds with the obligatory black computer genius.
RC2006 says




Hollywood is such a dumpster fire, how do some of these movies make it to the light of day. Hollywood is self destructing releasing non stop horrible movies.
87   MolotovCocktail   2025 Aug 5, 3:51pm  

RC2006 says





Hollywood is such a dumpster fire, how do some of these movies make it to the light of day. Hollywood is self destructing releasing non stop horrible movies.


I actually stopped watching that one.

Even the worse Friday movie he did was way better than this shit, trust me.
89   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Aug 7, 5:45pm  

I just learned HAL is not IBM minus one letter.

It was officially titled "Heuristically programmed ALgorithmic Computer"

Should watch it again in light of Grok and ChatGPT
90   Ceffer   2025 Aug 7, 6:14pm  

MolotovCocktail says

Even the worse Friday movie he did was way better than this shit, trust me.

As soon as I hear the ghetto pidgin from the 'black genius', it's all over.
91   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Aug 7, 6:18pm  

Palmer got the keys when Windows found Bennings mid-transformation. You can hear something metal drop as Windows in surprised. Palmer has one of his earphones in the whole blood discovery scene despite all the arguments going on around him, and Gary has his keys during Blairs Radio sabotage. Still, the question is how did Gary get the keys back on his belt? Gary is killed by Thing-Blair just before the end, so Gary was not a Thing when he regained his keyring.
92   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Aug 7, 7:07pm  

@Patrick You might like this:

Kubrik dropped hints about metallic currency and the Fed Reserve in the Shining. And there's no way, knowing Kubrik's obsession with detail, this was all just chance. Even the scrapbook next to Jack's typewriter is full of article clipped about the Fed and Gold Reserves, and the "Gold Room" is not present in King's Novel. One of the convos Jack and the bartender have in the "Gold Room" revolves around "Credit".

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IoWZEwedPkc
93   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Aug 7, 7:10pm  

Also cool: There's no time when Jack is talking to a "Ghost" that there isn't a reflective surface behind the "Ghost". Including in the store room, which has a reflective metal door. Hinting he is talking to a reflection of himself each time.
94   FreeAmericanDOP   2025 Aug 14, 4:34pm  

Lawrence Tierney, the guy who played Crime Lord Joe Cabot organizing the Jewelry Store "Caper" in Reservoir Dogs. Real Life Tough guy, arrested dozens of times for fights and drunkenness across multiple states.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lawrence_Tierney
96   RC2006   2025 Oct 11, 4:24pm  

Just watched tron. Total snooze fest. Girl boss, bad acting shit story. It was literally Tron with no Tron.
97   Maga_Chaos_Monkey   2025 Oct 11, 4:42pm  

Wil Wheaton recalled that while filming an episode Star Trek: The Next Generation in 1987, Tierney mocked the 15-year-old Wheaton for not playing football in school and belittled him with homophobic slurs.[40]

hahahahaha!

edit: I tried quoting @DemoralizerOfPanicans but it just quotes the last post. If I try to edit this it quotes itself.

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