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Thanks @Onvacation

Wow, great work.

It looks like the Vax has been killing more than the Virus for at least 2 months now.

I sent this link to some reporters, and would be happy if others do the same.

Officially, all deaths are going down. I do think that the virus is still deadly to those with comorbidities. Obesity seems to be the big one.

The Vax is taking out some young and healthy. The coming flu seasons death toll will tell us if they are trying to kill us our not.

The calm before the cytokine storm? Or a new technology to save us from some new technology?

This classification of death went to 5 or 6 times normal during the jabfest.

Ppl, as the un-appointed leader of the Covid crisis on PatNet, I recommend that everyone start a daily regimen with Quercetin, before the fall season.

Realize, you may not have time, once the infection takes hold. As the Scouts used to say ... Be Prepared!

https://www.israelnationalnews.com/News/News.aspx/309762

Coronavirus patients who recovered from the virus were far less likely to become infected during the latest wave of the pandemic than people who were vaccinated against COVID, according to numbers presented to the Israeli Health Ministry.

Health Ministry data on the wave of COVID outbreaks which began this May show that Israelis with immunity from natural infection were far less likely to become infected again in comparison to Israelis who only had immunity via vaccination.

More than 7,700 new cases of the virus have been detected during the most recent wave starting in May, but just 72 of the confirmed cases were reported in people who were known to have been infected previously – that is, less than 1% of the new cases.

Roughly 40% of new cases – or more than 3,000 patients – involved people who had been infected despite being vaccinated.

With a total of 835,792 Israelis known to have recovered from the virus, the 72 instances of reinfection amount to 0.0086% of people who were already infected with COVID.

Rin says

Ppl, as the un-appointed leader of the Covid crisis on PatNet, I recommend that everyone start a daily regimen with Quercetin, before the fall season.

Realize, you may not have time, once the infection takes hold. As the Scouts used to say ... Be Prepared!

I'm already on it! I do pay the premium for pre-packaged, pharmaceutical grade supplements, so it's expensive at $100/month. But, it's all packaged for me and super high quality.

Here's the link if anyone is interested:
https://doctorsstudio.com/product/imask-prevention-bundle-1/

I've been on this regimen for 2 months now.

porkchopexpress says

Rin says

Ppl, as the un-appointed leader of the Covid crisis on PatNet, I recommend that everyone start a daily regimen with Quercetin, before the fall season.

Realize, you may not have time, once the infection takes hold. As the Scouts used to say ... Be Prepared!

I'm already on it! I do pay the premium for pre-packaged, pharmaceutical grade supplements, so it's expensive at $100/month. But, it's all packaged for me and super high quality.

Here's the link if anyone is interested:
https://doctorsstudio.com/product/imask-prevention-bundle-1/

I've been on this regimen for 2 months now.

Since your supplement is using Quercetin Dihydrate, you'll need some fat soluble carrier like Flax Seed or Fish Oil capsules with it, to get better absorption.

I bumped this thread out on patriots.win. Good data.

Rin says

porkchopexpress says

Rin says

Ppl, as the un-appointed leader of the Covid crisis on PatNet, I recommend that everyone start a daily regimen with Quercetin, before the fall season.

Realize, you may not have time, once the infection takes hold. As the Scouts used to say ... Be Prepared!

I'm already on it! I do pay the premium for pre-packaged, pharmaceutical grade supplements, so it's expensive at $100/month. But, it's all packaged for me and super high quality.

Here's the link if anyone is interested:
https://doctorsstudio.com/product/imask-prevention-bundle-1/

I've been on this regimen for 2 months now.

Since your supplement is using Quercetin Dihydrate, you'll need some fat soluble ...

Would it be better in a smoothie? I make frozen blueberry raspberry banana sometimes I add flax seed walnuts etc..

Could you name some other brands that are not as expensive?

Rin says

as the un-appointed leader of the Covid crisis on PatNet, I recommend that everyone start a daily regimen with Quercetin

I have developed a fondness for capers, the food highest in quercetin. I actually think my whole office had Fauci Flu back in late 2019, but no one got seriously ill. Would love a reliable blood test that can prove it.

Onvacation says

This classification of death went to 5 or 6 times normal during the jabfest.

I've seen lots of graphs like this before, where the drop at the end is merely incomplete reporting of the most recent data.

Maybe it's really dropping, or maybe it's just one of those reporting artifacts and deaths will keep climbing as more people get the jab.

Patrick says

I've seen lots of graphs like this before, where the drop at the end is merely incomplete reporting of the most recent data.

I've heard it's more than incomplete, it's outright refusal. Historically VAERS only reports 11% of all cases, and out of those only about 11% get entered. There's been some pretty heavy suppression taking place since April from what I've heard, so the second 11% could be closer to 1%

It seems as though the CDC is accurate (almost said honest) about number of deaths. I question the classifications.

I do believe covid-19 was an intentionally released or accidentally leaked lab virus. It is deadly to people with comorbidities. I think it has done it's damage which was amplified by restricting treatment.
Onvacation says

It was definitely a killer, but not a killer of young vibrant athletes like the vax. The Wuhan was like a Hyena it killed the old AND weak. Most of the herd survived. 78% of those that died were 65 or older. 93% had comorbidities. The old, and the weak.

NuttBoxer says

it's outright refusal. Historically VAERS only reports 11% of all cases, and out of those only about 11% get entered.

This is not from VAERS but from CDC death statistics. They don't have a category for vax deaths, yet.

I believe the latest death numbers from VAERS is around 9,000 and 50,000 severe adverse reactions.

By my calculations, the "not elsewhere classified" classification has about 30,000 deaths above the traditional average since the vaxxing started.

I'll keep an eye on the data.

RC2006 says

Could you name some other brands that are not as expensive?

Quercetin Dihydrate, alone, outside of let's call it the supplemental dream team, is some 25 cents per pill.

So you can buy it in bulk, take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil and you'll have at least some absorption because it's not water soluble and poorly absorbed through the GI tract w/o some assistance.

Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

Run this experiment at home. Take a 500 mg Quercetin capsule and empty it into a sushi soy sauce cup. Then slowly add Olive Oil, mixing it with a fork, and see how much it takes to get a clean mix where you don't see too many clumps all over the place.

Rin says

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

Run this experiment at home. Take a 500 mg Quercetin capsule and empty it into a sushi soy sauce cup. Then slowly add Olive Oil, mixing it with a fork, and see how much it takes to get a clean mix where you don't see too many clumps all over the place.

My wife makes shakes as my M-F lunch. We put all sorts of good stuff in them. What if I just add a Quercetin tablet to it? Maybe some oil also? Will I get the same effect?

WineHorror1 says

My wife makes shakes as my M-F lunch. We put all sorts of good stuff in them. What if I just add a Quercetin tablet to it? Maybe some oil also? Will I get the same effect?

In terms of the oil solubility, yes.

On the other hand, one of my guinea pigs actually took a Quercetin/Olive Oil blend and cooked it at low temp w/ a slice of onion which binds the sugars. That's the most bio-available and is actually in a research paper out of Japan.

Rin says

one of my guinea pigs

Ok, so I've never asked you, what is it you do? Dr.? Holistic healer?

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

one of my guinea pigs

Ok, so I've never asked you, what is it you do? Dr.? Holistic healer?

I'm more like a true Renaissance Man, from my other thread ...

https://patrick.net/post/1340079?0#comment-1766346


Bitcoin says

Thank you man! I ordered Quercetin....
Do you work in the medical field? How do you know all this stuff?

A long time ago, but in the same galaxy, I'd started my career in biopharma but then, left for IT consulting, and finally, finished my career in finance/hedge fund work.

Throughout this time, I've always kept up with supplements and medical protocols & have been disgusted by the sheer ignorance and stupidity of medical providers who can't even figure out basic stuff.

For example, Tagamet, an OTC patent expired heartburn reliever, is at every CVS/Walgreens in the country but a majority of internal med doctors start off their patients on something newer, like Nexium, which is worse for one's health overall but the excuse is now that it inhibits h pylori (ulcer creating bacteria) better in the stomach but what no one knows is that the Mediterranean tree extract, Mastic Gum, already does that & that's a vitamin/supplement, not an Rx, at 25-40 cents/pill. So taking Tagamet w/ Mastic Gum will probably help at least 70% of the ppl out there but no, "supplements are no good", according to medical orthodoxy. I didn't realize that an area of applied science was an orthodox church of sorts.

I mean let's get real, by April of last year, it was discovered that a majority of the dead Covid patients had Vitamin D deficiency. Was it nuclear science to give some of these ppl, Vitamin D, before their symptoms were out of control? Does that command have to come down from Mount Olympus before every walk-in-clinic or ER gives supplemental D to anyone complaining about a chest cold?

You see, I had low expectations long before Covid but the response to it has been so substandard that now, I'm convinced that Beavis & Butthead run the medical profession.

Rin says

I'm more like a true Renaissance Man, from my other thread ...

Ok, 1 last question:

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

WineHorror1 says

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

Here's the issue, a lot of naturopaths, despite their best intentions, do not have a real foundation in the sciences like chemistry, biochemistry, and general biology.

They can't use articles in medical publications to verify a lot of their claims so they fall back to a type of 'faith based medicine', where word of mouth prevails. This is where all the 'Quack Alerts' come from and when ppl tout things like Laetrile for cancer when all it does is release some cyanide ion, regardless of whether or not, it's around a tumor or the body in general.

Unfortunately, we're lodged in a world where we need ppl trained in allopathic medicine, who realize that the latest Rx is just marketing, and not needed for their patients.

In effect, we're stuck between the 'Quack Alerts' and the stupid idiots we see today in the clinics, who know little about preventative medicine.

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Rin says

WineHorror1 says

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

Here's the issue, a lot of naturopaths, despite their best intentions, do not have a real foundation in the sciences like chemistry, biochemistry, and general biology.

Agreed. Traditionally trained doctors are not always horrible at diagnosing and treating well known ailments

Your primary care doctor is just an access point to specialist referrals, if you need them. They are also really good at sewing up skin and helping you mend bones. You need a doctor for trauma care.

Like I have always said, "All a doctor can do is make you feel better".

Ultimately it's up to us to research and find treatments if we have illness. If I ever get sick I may just @rin for advice.

My dad told me that when the communists took over in other countries they executed any doctor or other healer who knew their stuff and could actually help people.

With all the corruption in our “healthcare” system, I wonder if the AMA, FDA and other powers that be are not just names we have been sold to distract us from the fact that communists/fascists run our system. It seems we are left with only a small minority of doctors and other trained experts who have the knowledge, will and resources to actually help people with their health needs.

I think most doctors are pretty well trained, but what we have now is direct or implied threats to doctors to go along with the whole virus fraud or lose their licenses.

So for example, they are forbidden to use HCQ to treat Fauci Flu, though they may still prescribe it for, say, rheumatism.

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

But the assholes in the government-media-Wall Street complex think they have such complete control over the minds of the public with fear that they can literally do anything to anyone and get away with it. And it's true with respect to Democrats at least: they can do anything at all to Democrats, who will:

1. just bend over and take it
2. demand that you bend over and take it too, or try to get you fired as a Nazi fascist racist white supremacist

Patrick says

I think most doctors are pretty well trained

I actually don't. Training is one thing, but the application of what you were trained in with real world application is different. My mom and I diagnosed my own bum gall bladder after 3-4 visits with no answers.

I've become very jaded lately with what life is. Stupid oaths aside, why would a doctor want to make you better? Sure they keep you alive, more money in the future. They ultimately want you sick so they get business. Big Pharma knows this and will send in saleswomen to suck the docs dick. They then pump you full of pills that help you feel better but cause more damage that you then go back to the doc for. Rinse and repeat.

Everything is business is what I'm learning. It's not and never has been about the person you meet or deal with. Are there good docs out there, yes. It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

Patrick says

I think most doctors are pretty well trained, but what we have now is direct or implied threats to doctors to go along with the whole virus fraud or lose their licenses.

So for example, they are forbidden to use HCQ to treat Fauci Flu, though they may still prescribe it for, say, rheumatism.

They could 'quietly' tell their patients to take Quercetin, with the caveat that it's not for the virus but it's to help with joint aches due to the added inflammation from the disease. They won't lose their license for that, only their popularity among other clinicians.

And then, with each patient supplementing 1000-2000 mg per day & then spreading the word to their friends & families, since Quercetin is available at every Vitamin Shoppe, the whole pandemic goes away by the fall.

Patrick says

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

The tragedy here is that the Big Pharma execs, along with their lackeys at the NIH/CDC/WHO (not Roger Daltrey/Pete Townsend), are interfering with the doctor/patient consultation where a doctor is allowed to prescribe off label use of an Rx.

Rin says

Patrick says

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

The tragedy here is that the Big Pharma execs, along with their lackeys at the NIH/CDC/WHO (not Roger Daltrey/Pete Townsend), are interfering with the doctor/patient consultation where a doctor is allowed to prescribe off label use of an Rx.

I've said it a 1,000 times and I'll say it again...G.R.E.E.D. is the worst of all human traits. It causes more death and destruction than any other.

WookieMan says

It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

That's because a lot of those ppl are money grubbers, who didn't have it in them, to pursue careers in finance, where making money is a part of the course (see Carl Icahn), not some Hippocratic Oath.

So they thought, hey, I scored over a 33 (old system metric) on the MCAT, the safest way for me to make money is to pursue a career in medicine.

Rin says

WookieMan says

It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

That's because a lot of those ppl are money grubbers, who didn't have it in them, to pursue careers in finance, where making money is a part of the course (see Carl Icahn), not some Hippocratic Oath.

So they thought, hey, I scored over a 33 (old system metric) on the MCAT, the safest way for me to make money is to pursue a career in medicine.

You know how I view finance as a career?

Useless and beneath me.

They don't build anything, they are the most useless eaters in the world. See this shit you're using to read this? We created it. Finance was a HINDRANCE to creating this. Wasn't always this way, but has been for the last 30 years. I'm looking at Tesla, a worthless piece of shit company, which is being propped up, by a few finance companies to make a bag load shorting when the time comes through options. Meanwhile, shitty companies like them are allowed to operate, while real companies producing useful solutions advancing our society and improving everybody's lives, are starving.

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

The financial profession today, is a cancer. Nothing more.

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

Rin says

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

Well, I wish you luck.

Rin says

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

I don't get it. You took the jab KNOWING it was harmful?

WineHorror1 says

I don't get it. You took the jab KNOWING it was harmful?

I killed the cold virus, the carrier for the J&J, on impact by my regimen. When a virus has minimal capability of perfusing a muscle cell, it dies in the environment.