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Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

Run this experiment at home. Take a 500 mg Quercetin capsule and empty it into a sushi soy sauce cup. Then slowly add Olive Oil, mixing it with a fork, and see how much it takes to get a clean mix where you don't see too many clumps all over the place.

Rin says

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

take it with some Olive, Fish, or Coconut oil

How much oil?

Run this experiment at home. Take a 500 mg Quercetin capsule and empty it into a sushi soy sauce cup. Then slowly add Olive Oil, mixing it with a fork, and see how much it takes to get a clean mix where you don't see too many clumps all over the place.

My wife makes shakes as my M-F lunch. We put all sorts of good stuff in them. What if I just add a Quercetin tablet to it? Maybe some oil also? Will I get the same effect?

WineHorror1 says

My wife makes shakes as my M-F lunch. We put all sorts of good stuff in them. What if I just add a Quercetin tablet to it? Maybe some oil also? Will I get the same effect?

In terms of the oil solubility, yes.

On the other hand, one of my guinea pigs actually took a Quercetin/Olive Oil blend and cooked it at low temp w/ a slice of onion which binds the sugars. That's the most bio-available and is actually in a research paper out of Japan.

Rin says

one of my guinea pigs

Ok, so I've never asked you, what is it you do? Dr.? Holistic healer?

WineHorror1 says

Rin says

one of my guinea pigs

Ok, so I've never asked you, what is it you do? Dr.? Holistic healer?

I'm more like a true Renaissance Man, from my other thread ...

https://patrick.net/post/1340079?0#comment-1766346


Bitcoin says

Thank you man! I ordered Quercetin....
Do you work in the medical field? How do you know all this stuff?

A long time ago, but in the same galaxy, I'd started my career in biopharma but then, left for IT consulting, and finally, finished my career in finance/hedge fund work.

Throughout this time, I've always kept up with supplements and medical protocols & have been disgusted by the sheer ignorance and stupidity of medical providers who can't even figure out basic stuff.

For example, Tagamet, an OTC patent expired heartburn reliever, is at every CVS/Walgreens in the country but a majority of internal med doctors start off their patients on something newer, like Nexium, which is worse for one's health overall but the excuse is now that it inhibits h pylori (ulcer creating bacteria) better in the stomach but what no one knows is that the Mediterranean tree extract, Mastic Gum, already does that & that's a vitamin/supplement, not an Rx, at 25-40 cents/pill. So taking Tagamet w/ Mastic Gum will probably help at least 70% of the ppl out there but no, "supplements are no good", according to medical orthodoxy. I didn't realize that an area of applied science was an orthodox church of sorts.

I mean let's get real, by April of last year, it was discovered that a majority of the dead Covid patients had Vitamin D deficiency. Was it nuclear science to give some of these ppl, Vitamin D, before their symptoms were out of control? Does that command have to come down from Mount Olympus before every walk-in-clinic or ER gives supplemental D to anyone complaining about a chest cold?

You see, I had low expectations long before Covid but the response to it has been so substandard that now, I'm convinced that Beavis & Butthead run the medical profession.

Rin says

I'm more like a true Renaissance Man, from my other thread ...

Ok, 1 last question:

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

WineHorror1 says

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

Here's the issue, a lot of naturopaths, despite their best intentions, do not have a real foundation in the sciences like chemistry, biochemistry, and general biology.

They can't use articles in medical publications to verify a lot of their claims so they fall back to a type of 'faith based medicine', where word of mouth prevails. This is where all the 'Quack Alerts' come from and when ppl tout things like Laetrile for cancer when all it does is release some cyanide ion, regardless of whether or not, it's around a tumor or the body in general.

Unfortunately, we're lodged in a world where we need ppl trained in allopathic medicine, who realize that the latest Rx is just marketing, and not needed for their patients.

In effect, we're stuck between the 'Quack Alerts' and the stupid idiots we see today in the clinics, who know little about preventative medicine.

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Rin says

WineHorror1 says

I do not want my primary care physician to be a regular Dr. any more. I want to start seeing a Holistic(?) healer type. Or is there some other type of naturaropath(?) type I should look into?

Here's the issue, a lot of naturopaths, despite their best intentions, do not have a real foundation in the sciences like chemistry, biochemistry, and general biology.

Agreed. Traditionally trained doctors are not always horrible at diagnosing and treating well known ailments

Your primary care doctor is just an access point to specialist referrals, if you need them. They are also really good at sewing up skin and helping you mend bones. You need a doctor for trauma care.

Like I have always said, "All a doctor can do is make you feel better".

Ultimately it's up to us to research and find treatments if we have illness. If I ever get sick I may just @rin for advice.

My dad told me that when the communists took over in other countries they executed any doctor or other healer who knew their stuff and could actually help people.

With all the corruption in our “healthcare” system, I wonder if the AMA, FDA and other powers that be are not just names we have been sold to distract us from the fact that communists/fascists run our system. It seems we are left with only a small minority of doctors and other trained experts who have the knowledge, will and resources to actually help people with their health needs.

I think most doctors are pretty well trained, but what we have now is direct or implied threats to doctors to go along with the whole virus fraud or lose their licenses.

So for example, they are forbidden to use HCQ to treat Fauci Flu, though they may still prescribe it for, say, rheumatism.

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

But the assholes in the government-media-Wall Street complex think they have such complete control over the minds of the public with fear that they can literally do anything to anyone and get away with it. And it's true with respect to Democrats at least: they can do anything at all to Democrats, who will:

1. just bend over and take it
2. demand that you bend over and take it too, or try to get you fired as a Nazi fascist racist white supremacist

Patrick says

I think most doctors are pretty well trained

I actually don't. Training is one thing, but the application of what you were trained in with real world application is different. My mom and I diagnosed my own bum gall bladder after 3-4 visits with no answers.

I've become very jaded lately with what life is. Stupid oaths aside, why would a doctor want to make you better? Sure they keep you alive, more money in the future. They ultimately want you sick so they get business. Big Pharma knows this and will send in saleswomen to suck the docs dick. They then pump you full of pills that help you feel better but cause more damage that you then go back to the doc for. Rinse and repeat.

Everything is business is what I'm learning. It's not and never has been about the person you meet or deal with. Are there good docs out there, yes. It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

Patrick says

I think most doctors are pretty well trained, but what we have now is direct or implied threats to doctors to go along with the whole virus fraud or lose their licenses.

So for example, they are forbidden to use HCQ to treat Fauci Flu, though they may still prescribe it for, say, rheumatism.

They could 'quietly' tell their patients to take Quercetin, with the caveat that it's not for the virus but it's to help with joint aches due to the added inflammation from the disease. They won't lose their license for that, only their popularity among other clinicians.

And then, with each patient supplementing 1000-2000 mg per day & then spreading the word to their friends & families, since Quercetin is available at every Vitamin Shoppe, the whole pandemic goes away by the fall.

Patrick says

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

The tragedy here is that the Big Pharma execs, along with their lackeys at the NIH/CDC/WHO (not Roger Daltrey/Pete Townsend), are interfering with the doctor/patient consultation where a doctor is allowed to prescribe off label use of an Rx.

Rin says

Patrick says

Somehow your heart will explode if you take HCQ for Fauci Flu, but won't explode if you take it for rheumatism, or lupus, or malaria. You'd think that this alone would have been a huge scandal because it's such clear evidence of corruption in favor of Big Pharma.

The tragedy here is that the Big Pharma execs, along with their lackeys at the NIH/CDC/WHO (not Roger Daltrey/Pete Townsend), are interfering with the doctor/patient consultation where a doctor is allowed to prescribe off label use of an Rx.

I've said it a 1,000 times and I'll say it again...G.R.E.E.D. is the worst of all human traits. It causes more death and destruction than any other.

WookieMan says

It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

That's because a lot of those ppl are money grubbers, who didn't have it in them, to pursue careers in finance, where making money is a part of the course (see Carl Icahn), not some Hippocratic Oath.

So they thought, hey, I scored over a 33 (old system metric) on the MCAT, the safest way for me to make money is to pursue a career in medicine.

Rin says

WookieMan says

It's mostly about money and not you the patient in my opinion.

That's because a lot of those ppl are money grubbers, who didn't have it in them, to pursue careers in finance, where making money is a part of the course (see Carl Icahn), not some Hippocratic Oath.

So they thought, hey, I scored over a 33 (old system metric) on the MCAT, the safest way for me to make money is to pursue a career in medicine.

You know how I view finance as a career?

Useless and beneath me.

They don't build anything, they are the most useless eaters in the world. See this shit you're using to read this? We created it. Finance was a HINDRANCE to creating this. Wasn't always this way, but has been for the last 30 years. I'm looking at Tesla, a worthless piece of shit company, which is being propped up, by a few finance companies to make a bag load shorting when the time comes through options. Meanwhile, shitty companies like them are allowed to operate, while real companies producing useful solutions advancing our society and improving everybody's lives, are starving.

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

The financial profession today, is a cancer. Nothing more.

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

Rin says

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

Well, I wish you luck.

Rin says

richwicks says

Why should anybody chose finance as a career, if they are respectable? Sure, easy money, but it's a leach on society's neck.

Dude, I made my money at the hedge fund.

When I retire, I'm going to medical school to basically, bring supplements/vitamins to the world, which other MDs couldn't do, because they went into medicine for all the wrong reasons, basically, to make money and cow tow to parental pressures.

I don't get it. You took the jab KNOWING it was harmful?

WineHorror1 says

I don't get it. You took the jab KNOWING it was harmful?

I killed the cold virus, the carrier for the J&J, on impact by my regimen. When a virus has minimal capability of perfusing a muscle cell, it dies in the environment.

The CDC has not updated their weekly death numbers for two weeks now.

Hmmm.

Patrick says

Onvacation says

This classification of death went to 5 or 6 times normal during the jabfest.

I've seen lots of graphs like this before, where the drop at the end is merely incomplete reporting of the most recent data.

You're right!

The last CDC update was on July 3. The one before it was June 26. I graphed "rare deaths" (Symptoms, signs and abnormal clinical and laboratory findings, not elsewhere classified) for the two releases of data and as you can see from the graph I created that a lot of deaths have been reclassified.

There are more rare death classifications after the update.

I also noticed a discrepancy in total deaths. In the CDC's earlier release there were a total of 30,763 deaths in the week ending 6/26/2021. In the next weeks release there were 43,397, a difference of over 12,000.

This is disturbing as when I look back the newer release has a bunch more deaths for the last few weeks. Further back in time the discrepancies decrease. It may have something to do with reporting lag.

I got some chores I have to do but I'll do a deeper dive later.

Maybe the CDC lies about classification AND number of dead.

Onvacation says

There are more rare death classifications after the update.

I also noticed a discrepancy in total deaths. In the CDC's earlier release there were a total of 30,763 deaths in the week ending 6/26/2021. In the next weeks release there were 43,397, a difference of over 12,000.

This is disturbing as when I look back the newer release has a bunch more deaths for the last few weeks. Further back in time the discrepancies decrease. It may have something to do with reporting lag.

I got some chores I have to do but I'll do a deeper dive later.

Maybe the CDC lies about classification AND number of dead.

So, this is true or false...

"Last Week: there were 1,918 total COVID-19 deaths in the United States.

Last Week: There were 2,092 deaths from the COVID Vaccines — According to the CDC-linked VAERS website.

That means there were 174 more Covid vaccine deaths in the United States last week than Covid deaths in the United States last week.

Why is this not making headlines?"

WineHorror1 says

So, this is true or false...

"Last Week: there were 1,918 total COVID-19 deaths in the United States.

Last Week: There were 2,092 deaths from the COVID Vaccines — According to the CDC-linked VAERS website.

That means there were 174 more Covid vaccine deaths in the United States last week than Covid deaths in the United States last week.

Why is this not making headlines?"

It's probably even worse.

I am looking at the July 3rd updated numbers and there were only 591 deaths FROM covid (COVID-19 (U071, Underlying Cause of Death) and an additional 725 deaths WITH covid (COVID-19 (U071, Multiple Cause of Death) It may have gone up in the last two weeks but they haven't released the numbers yet.

Deaths from "rare diseases" are 2,500 deaths above their norm for that same week.

More have probably been dying from the jab than from the Wuhan for a couple months now.

Onvacation says

I also noticed a discrepancy in total deaths. In the CDC's earlier release there were a total of 30,763 deaths in the week ending 6/26/2021. In the next weeks release there were 43,397, a difference of over 12,000.

This is disturbing as when I look back the newer release has a bunch more deaths for the last few weeks. Further back in time the discrepancies decrease. It may have something to do with reporting lag.

I got some chores I have to do but I'll do a deeper dive later.

Maybe the CDC lies about classification AND number of dead.

After a closer look, it looks like reporting lag.

Still waiting for updated numbers from the CDC.

I think we can say the second wave of the Wuhan is over.



I am afraid the new wave will be ADE and will be blamed on unvavved people as only the vaxxed will come down with it.

One good thing about the Wuhan is that nobody dies from the flu or pneumonia anymore.

Notice that the curve of rare deaths matched the curve of vaxxing. Most of the remaining unvaxxed say, "I'm not getting that shit".(period)

Onvacation says

Notice that the curve of rare deaths matched the curve of vaxxing. Most of the remaining unvaxxed say, "I'm not getting that shit".(period)

@Onvacation Where do you see this? Which graph, that is.

Patrick says

Onvacation says

Notice that the curve of rare deaths matched the curve of vaxxing. Most of the remaining unvaxxed say, "I'm not getting that shit".(period)

@Onvacation Where do you see this? Which graph, that is.

This will make it more clear.

Here is the chart of deaths from "Rare" diseases since 2014



When we Zoom in we see that from the man first vaccinated on 12/8/2020 (now dead) and the quick ramp up in jabbing as many as possible as quickly as possible and then the reluctance of the remainder correlates with the spike in "rare disease".

Ay least that's what I see.

Correlation doesn't mean causation.

Thanks, do you have a graph of the total US "vaccinations" per day to overlay on the same timescale?

It would be super interesting if you could see bumps in deaths mirroring bumps in people who submit to the jab.

Patrick says

Thanks, do you have a graph of the total US "vaccinations" per day to overlay on the same timescale?

It would be super interesting if you could see bumps in deaths mirroring bumps in people who submit to the jab.

I was in a major suburban location today. They have a single 4 spot/seat folding table at a major grocery store pharmacy section. No one was there. Either everyone has gotten this or no one wants it. I think it's the latter. It's a complete waste of resources. People aren't working because they don't have to. It's not deadly. This is a complete shit show.

You're right @WookieMan but there are millions of people infected with TDS who devoutly support this shit show.

They will never forgive or get over Trump's big success with the economy, foreign policy, and restoring American ideals.

Patrick says

They will never forgive or get over Trump's big success with the economy, foreign policy, and restoring American ideals.

I agree. But nothing is stopping people from getting vaccinated if they want it. I should have seen people getting vaccinated. We're shipping our leftovers to foreign nations after taxpayers paid for it, we're giving working people free money, we have tons of unemployed, yet the job openings outpace the people that should be working. 1+1=3,000,000

Even if it was lab created, we should have just let nature do its thing. I don't think anyone on the planet understands the economy right now. This has never happened. You can't shut it down and then print. Some municipalities and states are bringing mask mandates back full well knowing they don't work because of the "Delta" variant. We're destroying entire industries. We've already lost a 50 year old, successful restaurant/bar in my town (the one I want to make a club). We're a service economy and we're destroying even that after fucking over manufacturing decades ago.

I like Trump outside of his Covid response and his demeanor sometimes. But I'm over him at this point. He's being censored. I literally think the media would censor him on TV as well. Literally to the point where maybe they wouldn't let him debate in 2024. Or the Rino's shut him down as well. I don't think it's possible he can run again honestly.

Way too early to make predictions, but as other threads have mentioned I think it will be Desantis. We need younger people in that office. I'd probably vote for him just for his Covid response even though he screwed me out of a vacation at the beginning. I honestly think this will end up in some form of civil war. How that looks who knows. Stolen elections and massive inflation don't end well. We need to get this shit under control.

WookieMan says

nothing is stopping people from getting vaccinated if they want it.

Lol, the point is that they demand that you submit to the jab no matter what you want, in direct violation of the Nuremberg Code and the basic right not to be experimented on.