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So, the OP succeeded once again in pitting the generations against each other, and dividing us when we should be consolidating to fight the real foes. Congratulations for falling into the trap.

stereotomy says

richwicks says

I have to do more research to have a more coherent opinion, but I thought the "anti-war" generation wouldn't drag us into war, after war, after war, after war.

It's quite simple really - as long as they can send someone else to fight and die for their goals of conquest, they support it. Pure, solopsistic, narcissisistic self interest.

It's not a generational thing, so much as it's the sociopaths versus the indifferent.

I do not wish to alienate anybody. I know some GREAT boomers, but I know a lot of awful ones too They didn't seem to listen to their parents, and they don't listen to their children. In my experience, generally, they are the most difficult generation to talk with. I can have a discussion about 9/11 being a false flag with Generation Y, but a boomer, quite often they will go ballistic on me.

They are the most propagandized generation in our nation I think. They're victims too but they've been programmed to victimize as well. Its very hard to communicate with them, to convince them they are wrong, or have been fooled.

I'm in X, we'll see if we're monsters soon enough. We created the internet to make it possible for people to connect their thoughts and learn from one another. We may have actually inadvertently created a surveillance state. The one good thing about my generation is I think we've created a lot of waves. We're the generation that is pushing back the hardest on this woke bullshit, and the degradation of education, we do the most to expose propaganda, and the dishonesty of government but we may ultimately lose the fight. If we do, our generation will be villains.

Ceffer says

So, the OP succeeded once again in pitting the generations against each other, and dividing us when we should be consolidating to fight the real foes. Congratulations for falling into the trap.

No, the divide exists. We need to talk about it, and resolve it.

I'm in X - you want to criticize my generation - go ahead. I want to know where other people think we fucked up, because we HAVE fucked up. I know we have created the infrastructure to make a police state. We did this with the intention of making a world wide communication system.

When I was in college, I was at a party with another engineering student who said "we're gong to eliminate EVERY culture with the Internet" and I was shocked, and told him that, then he responded "you don't understand, once we do this, there's nothing to fight over, no disagreement" - that is what we were aiming for. We NEVER imagined that what we made would be turned against us. But we will reverse it.

We were used, I'm sure the boomers were as well. Tell us how we fucked up. If we don't know how we fucked up, we can't fix our fuckups. We have to know the problem to address the problem. I can't be offended. I'm smarter than that. Let's address our problems honestly, that's no division - it's just a brutal discussion, and nobody should be offended when a mistake is pointed out to them.

When people take offense, that's because they suspect they are wrong, or are outraged that they have been slandered. This is basically an anonymous forum, if you say I'm fucking farm animals, why would I be offended? I don't care if you slander me. You should never take offense from somebody you don't personally know - and when you do, it's because you suspect - well, they made a good point. The real person that has offended you, is your previous self that has been lying to you this entire time. We all live in different levels of self delusion. My asshole 25 year old self, was an asshole, what a fucking idiot. I'll be saying this to my current self in 10 years.

Onvacation says

It's not about age. That is just a number. There is a group of people that have been fucking things up for the common man since before Columbus "found" the "new world". They are multi generational and have been accumulating power since time immemorial. They manipulate markets and ALWAYS have contingency plans.

Can't disagree at all.

This is why people need to talk. Different people have different ideas and knowledge, we must work together to understand the true nature of society.

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

They were never a threat and that's part of the problem.

LOL

This doesn't explain how WoookieMan is wrong. You're just mocking somebody. Explain how he is wrong.

People are RARELY stupid, but they can be naive or ignorant. No sin in that. When I'm wrong, I fucking want to know why you think I'm wrong. If you give me a ridiculous explanation, I'll explain why I think it's a ridiculous explanation.

I'm INFINITELY naive, but I'm not stupid. There is so much to goddamn know.

RC2006 says

What a surprise, boomers pretty much got there wealth selling out future generations

That is the general thinking, I realize. Is it true?

Is X not doing the same thing?

You don't exactly call a standing army with 5,5M active personnel, 35M in reserve, 90M total available for conscription, 40K tanks, etc. "overhyped" and "insignificant", m'kay? The threat of "steamrolling" Europe was very real.

Eric Holder says

You don't exactly call a standing army with 5,5M active personnel, 35M in reserve, 90M total available for conscription, 40K tanks, etc. "overhyped" and "insignificant", m'kay? The threat of "steamrolling" Europe was very real.

I'm like Trump, fuck Europe. Fuck defending them. It also wouldn't have been easy because Soviets/Russians aren't the sharpest knives in the drawer. They have zero issue stabbing each other in the back in a moments notice. Just because you have numbers doesn't mean it's functional. And just because they can defend their homeland when they put the bottle down doesn't mean they have offensive prowess. Russians will protect the homeland, but they're not well known for being effecting in taking things over outside of tiny regions/countries that no one cares about really.

My point was they were never a threat to mainland USA. Maybe Alaska or Hawaii. Or Guam after we took that. They have/had no offensive power since they got nukes. They've really never been a threat. The cold war was hype. Testing nukes doesn't equate to it working in the real world on foreign soil and getting it across an Ocean at the time.

It's probably likely that what they did in Cuba was standard missiles. We have no clue really. They puss'd out either way. So in reality it wasn't a threat. Because they likely weren't nukes. That's just what we're told to instill fear. Russians or the USA could win a conflict in minutes. No one chooses to do so. MAD is possible, but who knows. Like I said, it's a big dick contest that no one is willing to die over. And frankly during and after the cold war Russia has shown its micro penis.

You know they’ll just spend it on socially fashionable shit like gay rights, social justice, equity… fund destruction of America paved with good intentions.

I'm not a subscriber so I could only read the first few paragraphs.

1) The average wealth of the 70+ bracket is up 7% in part because life expectancy has increased by 5 years in the past 30. More people over 70 = longer until their wealt is passed down and more opportunity to build wealth since many are retiring later than 30 years ago.

https://www.macrotrends.net/countries/USA/united-states/life-expectancy

2) Given the average inheritance cited in the article, I wonder how much of that wealth is due to the sale of the deceased primary residence by their heirs. I'd be willing to bet the 45% rise and home prices correlate closely to the gain in average inheratnce, but I don't have the latest Case Schiller charts on hand.

I don't see how givong away once wealth in advance helps. Remember the parable about the prodigal son?