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MAGA says

I agree.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/older-americans-35-trillion-wealth-giving-away-heirs-philanthropy-11625234216

I know you do the veteran thing and I respect that, but the wealth extracted by boomers should be handed back down to their kids that will have to try and repay the debt their parents borrowed. Harsh take, but reality. Philanthropy/donation gets stolen and squandered even in the best of charities. Giving your time is substantially more valuable than money which I believe is what you've said you do. I'd be cautious with any financial donation with any org as I recall you've said you plan to donate your estate.

I am personally done donating to charity unless I have control over the donation. I'll physically help out, but the ones I do support are not getting my money. Everyone lies is what I've realized. The extent of the lies is never found out in most cases or even questioned. It's charity after all. The cause will still be better with the money I suppose, but it's hard to see some organizations pissing away 40-50%+ of donations on administration.

WookieMan says

MAGA says

I agree.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/older-americans-35-trillion-wealth-giving-away-heirs-philanthropy-11625234216

I know you do the veteran thing and I respect that, but the wealth extracted by boomers should be handed back down to their kids that will have to try and repay the debt their parents borrowed. Harsh take, but reality. Philanthropy/donation gets stolen and squandered even in the best of charities. Giving your time is substantially more valuable than money which I believe is what you've said you do. I'd be cautious with any financial donation with any org as I recall you've said you plan to donate your estate.

I am personally done donating to charity unless I have control over the donation. I'll physically help out, but the ones I do ...

I say seize it all, pay off the national debt off, abolish the Federal Reserve, and return to a gold standard.

WookieMan says

I am personally done donating to charity unless I have control over the donation. I'll physically help out, but the ones I do support are not getting my money. Everyone lies is what I've realized. The extent of the lies is never found out in most cases or even questioned. It's charity after all. The cause will still be better with the money I suppose, but it's hard to see some organizations pissing away 40-50%+ of donations on administration.

Work with the books of a charity, and I guarantee you will never donate again.

I want to see charities and religions document all of the donations and expenses individually. I want to know where every last penny came from and where they went.

I don't think any of them have ever done that.

When my children decided to throw their relationship out with their father, ... I'll spend it, and they can figure out what it's like to work hard for 35 years of their life, and see what they have to show for it...
when they see me, it will be too late to pull the knife out of my back.
... so when I see these court cases on media ...tv, tube.etc... Children, as well as parents throw family away, and I believe a throw away society will be a less then middle class.
Oh, I bet it can be fixed, but not in my lifetime...
My kids will not have any Debt as a result of me... they'll have their own debt from their own actions..\

richwicks says

Work with the books of a charity, and I guarantee you will never donate again.

I haven't had the chance to see the "real" books, but I get what you're saying. I will pay to attend an event I suppose if I'm golfing or getting a meal out of it. Some benefit. Done writing checks directly though.

What a surprise, boomers pretty much got there wealth selling out future generations

richwicks says

I say seize it all, pay off the national debt off, abolish the Federal Reserve, and return to a gold standard.

I think I could almost be sold on this idea. The system is fubar for sure.

I will live in Caligulan splendor in my old age to avoid leaving my money to anyone here. I plan on finding a few second cousins in Poland to leave it to.

Patrick says

I want to see charities and religions document all of the donations and expenses individually. I want to know where every last penny came from and where they went.

I don't think any of them have ever done that.

Most of my estate is going to the Fisher House Foundation. A highly-rated charity.

https://fisherhouse.org/

Money is Pie and the Old People ate it all and wont give me any more. Bernie Sanders told me, then he sped away in his $500,000 Audi Super Car, as he ran over my foot.
He said I would find those responsible living in a van down by the river, eating cold ramen, rehydrated with piss they wrung out of their depends.
Those mean old bastards, how dare they, why can't they be more like Warren Buffet, George Soros, Warren Buffett, Joe Biden, Jeff Bezos, and Bill Gates?
Now there's your humanitarians, bending over backwards to make life better for the young folk. While exposing your evil grandmother.

Do you Idiots listen to yourselves?

Tenpoundbass says

Money is Pie and the Old People ate it all and wont give me any more. Bernie Sanders told me, then he sped away in his $500,000 Audi Super Car, as he ran over my foot.
He said I would find those responsible living in a van down by the river, eating cold ramen, rehydrated with piss they wrung out of their depends.
Those mean old bastards, how dare they, why can't they be more like Warren Buffet, George Soros, Warren Buffett, Joe Biden, Jeff Bezos, and Bill Gates?
Now there's your humanitarians, bending over backwards to make life better for the young folk. While exposing your evil grandmother.

Do you Idiots listen to yourselves?

Maybe it's not the same this as "Older Americans" but, was Carlin an idiot?
https://youtu.be/_7U5JVk_y7U

TAKE IT ALL!
It will run the government for 1024 days, if they don't start new programs with the "windfall".

You can give yours away; I’m keeping mine because it’s mine.
I lived like a pauper while I was working for not great pay, sometimes with an asshole for a boss.
I took the slings and arrows from females who thought I was cheap, or broke.
Later they made fun of my wheels, and that I bought shit at Goodwill.
I was a fanatical saver and investor, and now I’m sitting pretty.
See a girl’s reaction when you show her your mutual fund accounts on your phone.
I don’t know what wookieman is talking about; boomers I know are still paying taxes and are often still working, I think they work because they’re afraid to stop.
I’m not working but lots of guys my age are.

Addendum:
I give some $ away at tax time, it’s also when I pay my “slave reparations”.
Looking at the cartoon above, I cannot fathom what the person on the right is, but it surely isn’t an “older American”, it appears like an androgynous Asian in its 30s.

richwicks says

I say seize it all, pay off the national debt off, abolish the Federal Reserve, and return to a gold standard.

Silver standard. Otherwise only a few with have gold, but give everybody bank notes for 10x more gold than the few actually possess. I agree with the core.

At the very least, all wages, salaries, and real property must be paid in physical precious metals - never in banknotes or any paper - including employers.

clambo says

See a girl’s reaction when you show her your mutual fund accounts on your phone.

Why would you do that? Your quality of home, lifestyle, and health will be all you need to show your are financially comfortable. Overt bragging about your bank account will only attract phonies who are only interested in how much loot you throw their way.

WineHorror1 says

but, was Carlin an idiot?

Yes he was! He was a petty sniveling bitter fuck, with an even dumber audience. He was a Comedian with a schtick that sold tickets, to idiots that reckoned him a philosopher.
He was funny at the time, but I cringe, at the way people recite him like he was teaching policy, rather than just doing a monologue for laughs.

His comedy worked because he was pushing boundaries by thumbing his nose at decorum, etiquettes and social expectations. Then he started bitching about Politics, without ever once getting involved. He Destroyed so much of our Society, and his comedy no longer works as comedy. Because the social idiosyncrasies he was playing off of, are not longer Social norms, and that's the sad part.

"Have a nice day..."
"Don't tell me to what to do!"

I mean that no longer works, because people aren't polite anymore. And that is the consensus a proper response.

Tenpoundbass says

WineHorror1 says

but, was Carlin an idiot?

Yes he was! He was a petty sniveling bitter fuck, with an even dumber audience. He was a Comedian with a schtick that sold tickets, to idiots that reckoned him a philosopher.
He was funny at the time, but I cringe, at the way people recite him like he was teaching policy, rather than just doing a monologue for laughs.

In order for comedy to work, there has to be some truth to it. You're attempting to say...?

Tenpoundbass says

His comedy worked because he was pushing boundaries by thumbing his nose at decorum, etiquettes and social expectations. Then he started bitching about Politics, without ever once getting involved. He Destroyed so much of our Society, and his comedy no longer works as comedy. Because the social idiosyncrasies he was playing off of, are not longer Social norms, and that's the sad part.

"Have a nice day..."
"Don't tell me to what to do!"

I mean that no longer works, because people aren't polite anymore. And that is the consensus a proper response.

the few good charities I know are Salvation Army and I think Red Cross, they actually get shit done. Salvation army gets a lot of shit though from gays, because they arent fag friendly.

clambo says

You can give yours away; I’m keeping mine because it’s mine.

I'm not giving mine away either and I hope no-one tries to confiscate it.

What the takers forget is that wealth is really work. Not only that wealth is work above and beyond subsistence.

I have a lot of toys. I worked for them. Without the work I put into my toys they would POOF vanish.. Wealth confiscators don't realize that wealth is work. They want the wealth but they don't want to work.

Equity means everyone is poor and getting poorer.

WineHorror1 says

In order for comedy to work, there has to be some truth to it. You're attempting to say...?

He stole Don Rickels schtick. Don roasted people on a personal level, the comedy worked because the person being roasted was the straight man.
The audience was watching an exchange between two people. We laugh at others getting grilled and ribbed. George Carlin took Don Rickels comedy and turned it beyond the stage, or the audience, he was roasting society and the norms in social settings. Thumbing his nose at the rules and boundaries, roasting them as if they were on a Dean Martin roast special. It was comedy, now nothing he said works as comedy, but reads like a serious Marxist manifesto. It's dangerous comedy for dangerous times. Long gone is the gentry that his comedy skewered.

For headset;
I don't show it to a girl I don't know well, rather it was like "show and tell"; she had a great figure so I thought I would share what I had.
I guess we impressed each other.
All females like money, and they like to tell their friends about the guy they're seeing.
In this case, it shuts up her friends who tease her about hanging out with an older guy.

Patrick says

I want to see charities and religions document all of the donations and expenses individually. I want to know where every last penny came from and where they went.

I don't think any of them have ever done that.

That is an idea I've had.

Record all donations publicly (because who doesn't want to have their name printed as donor to a charity?) and why would explanations of expenses be with-held - if it's really a charity?

Any worthwhile thing I did in "charity", I lost money on. I did dog rescue, somebody said that they didn't consider that "charity" (and it wasn't! I was finding a great pet at great expense - a remarkable pet) but at least one dog rescue group I was involved in went totally corrupt. Absolutely corrupt.

Couldn't have happened if the books were opened. Why would the books be closed? A true charity would be PROUD to demonstrate how the money was spent, and the donors would be PROUD of donating.

There are very little real charities. Almost all "charities" are corrupt.

seesaw says

When my children decided to throw their relationship out with their father, ... I'll spend it, and they can figure out what it's like to work hard for 35 years of their life, and see what they have to show for it...
when they see me, it will be too late to pull the knife out of my back.
... so when I see these court cases on media ...tv, tube.etc... Children, as well as parents throw family away, and I believe a throw away society will be a less then middle class.
Oh, I bet it can be fixed, but not in my lifetime...
My kids will not have any Debt as a result of me... they'll have their own debt from their own actions..\

Are you a baby boomer? I'm curious only to refine my thinking.

Every generation since then has gotten worse. Boomers were at the pinnacle.

I'm Generation X, since the boomers all I've seen is decline, it's OUR responsibility to reverse it.

There has been a great deal of neglect of the "greed is good" generation and our generation - which was "nothing matters". We are the new Silent Generation, it's a huge burden.

Patrick says

I want to see charities and religions document all of the donations and expenses individually. I want to know where every last penny came from and where they went.

I don't think any of them have ever done that.

Why would we do this? You know that the globohomo deep state will just use these regulations to control their competition and consolidate their own power. For example if every church and charity has to give this accounting why should not every person and business be forced to do the same? And of course the wealthy individuals, businesses, churches and charities will find creative loopholes to hide their actual numbers while he little guy will be punished for not paying an obscure tax or something.

When will people realize that justice does not come through regulation. We must be governed by God (instilled in our hearts to follow His truths) or we will be ruled by Tyrants. Forcing every organization to account for every penny is Tyranny.

clambo says

I don’t know what wookieman is talking about; boomers I know are still paying taxes and are often still working, I think they work because they’re afraid to stop.

I'm more so talking about politics. I couldn't vote for Bush Jr. round 1. I was in college Freshman year during 9/11. He fucked this nation up and he himself is a boomer and boomers were the largest demo at the time. Boomers have broken everything they touch when in power. I'm not talking about the common average boomer.

I hope they donate it all to the NRA, and the GOP.

I bet the commie fucknutt writers that are salivating to acquire other people's wealth, would really love that.
They don't really mean for them to give it away. They just want them to give it to them.

Fucking scumbags, and their brainwashed stooges, that blames Bob Peterson, the fixed income retiree fighting like hell to stop his greedy Millennial and Gen X kids from sending him to an old folks home so they can still his wealth. Because Activist Billionaires told them people like Bob Peterson is why they don't have any money.

WookieMan says

I was in college Freshman year during 9/11. He fucked this nation up and he himself is a boomer and boomers were the largest demo at the time. Boomers have broken everything they touch when in power. I'm not talking about the common average boomer.

Which generation created the federal reserve? That was pretty fucked up.

Which generation killed Kennedy and lied us into Vietnam. That was really fucked up.

Which generation is in control now? They're the most fucked up in American history.

It's not about age. That is just a number. There is a group of people that have been fucking things up for the common man since before Columbus "found" the "new world". They are multi generational and have been accumulating power since time immemorial. They manipulate markets and ALWAYS have contingency plans.

They have taken population control into a new level by using behavioral science. "They" rub their hands in glee when we start blaming race, age, gender, or any of those other things designed to divide us. They are the puppet masters behind the scenes. The obscenely rich and visible like Gates and Zuck are merely front men to push forward THEIR initiatives.

Don't hate me because I am a boomer. That is playing right into their hand.

HunterTits says

Cash it all out or purchase gold. Then have it all piled into the casket with them right before burial.

No put it all in a Bitcoin wallet, send Bit Coin soaring to $100K, then pull it all out before they die, and give it to the NRA. Leave all the losers that want money for nothing, holding the bag with $22K Bitcoin.

To argue a little with Wookie, all of the boomers I know tried to get by while the Arabs fucked the world economy up, Soviets threatened to destroy us, and unemployment, interest rates and inflation were each 12% or higher.
The job market sucked badly, so a lot of guys were scrambling for a career.
I know guys who went to college and ended up firemen, or went into the trades because there were no professional jobs.
Some became shyster lawyers for lack of employment.
Jimmy Carter scared everyone with his lousy speeches to make things worse.
The most capable guys I know are boomers, they might not be the richest.
Addendum
Several of my boomer friends worked at businesses that their parents owned although they had excellent education. They likely felt it was their only choice.

richwicks says

There are very little real charities.

That’s why I always give only to small charities dedicated to helping widows and orphans… or the modern day equivalent of the like. Battered women shelters and programs/shelters for teenagers at risk. These are the helpless and the needy who can be actually helped. Usually the charity is religious in nature, and most of those are fairly conscientious about how donations are used.

Onvacation says

Don't hate me because I am a boomer. That is playing right into their hand.

I don't hate individual boomers. Your leaders suck though. Every leader will make a bad decision. The Boomers have made more bad ones than any generation I can think of and they seemingly want to hold onto power forever.

My comment isn't about the working man/woman of that age. Though on average most are technically poor and can't retire, yet try to dictate how younger generations should behave, invest, etc. I guess maybe that's my issue. Dictating how I should live and them not having had to live that way because they're older. I'm sure with Covid vaccines and decisions the average person is 33... lol. No way. Boomers are dictating all this shit that had you locked up in your home (or boat if you sleep there) for a year.

And again, it's not the average boomer, but for some reason the generation has produced egotistical crazy people that somehow get into power positions. Politics. Corporations. I mean come one, Bill Gates for fucks sake? No discernible skill beside putting a computer together which any 13 year old can do and is now a person people look up to for this vaccine shit??? That's bat shit crazy, pun intended.

clambo says

Soviets threatened to destroy us

They were never a threat and that's part of the problem. I'm no fan of the "greatest" generation as war isn't great. They are the ones that created the modern day MIC essentially. That wasn't great by a long stretch. There's a difference between having a strong military and using it all the time. We're like the dude on roids with the military. I like having it, but there's no need to try and flex that muscle when you don't know how to fight. We've failed in almost every engagement since WWII. Most under the leadership of Boomers besides Vietnam which they fought in. Clearly didn't learn anything from that.

WookieMan says

They were never a threat and that's part of the problem.

LOL

Shaman says

richwicks says

There are very little real charities.

That’s why I always give only to small charities dedicated to helping widows and orphans… or the modern day equivalent of the like. Battered women shelters and programs/shelters for teenagers at risk

I'm Charitable direct, I don't give to charities, none I don't donate money to any organization period. I was going to make an exception for Trump. But I was holding out for high-profile people going to jail, or the Swamp getting visibly drained.

That being said, I know many Charitable people, who wouldn't give their family or friends a dime. When a Family member or Friend comes to me to borrow money. I always give it to them, under the condition, they never ask me again. And I'm giving it to them, for the sake of a relationship, and in the spirit of charity. I have seen and known far too many people with siblings and once close friends, become bitter mortal enemies over money someone didn't pay back.
Anyone in a Restaurant or Store asking for money to eat, I'll buy them anything on the menu. Sometimes they leave, because they were panhandling cash so they could buy drugs or alcohol. But I have brought many to tears for my generosity. I've watched people in fast-food line ignoring someone begging anyone to buy him something to eat. These were people who look like they write off donations to tax exempt charities.
Which brings me to another point. Almost all charitable people, only do so, so they can claim it on their taxes.

That stupid exemption benefits billionaires and they use it to not pay any taxes on the scale that they are playing. While most people like us, it wouldn't have made or broke us if we didn't write it off on our taxes.

I once in a Walmart parking lot, and had a black kid in his late teens or just turned 20, ask me for money to buy a pair of Dickies work pants, because he was starting a new Maintenance Job for a Condo building. I was on y out to get in my car. Without hesitation I took him in the store, went to the bin where he got his size, then told him to get two. Walked with him to the cash register, paid for them, got the receipt. Told him good luck and walked back to my car. I didn't stick around to get Selfies and post it on Fakebook, and Twister. I didn't even get his name.

Charity has become a financial transaction for most, and not something they would just do to help out their fellow man.

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

They were never a threat and that's part of the problem.

LOL

It was overhyped. It's always overhyped. No different than now how Trump was a Russian puppet. Fear controls people. Soviets were never a threat to mainland US no matter what you've read. It's all bullshit. MAD existed the minute 2 countries had nukes. Even back in the days of physical newspapers, hype sold. The Soviets were not an actual threat.

The game changed after WWII. We were the fuckers crazy enough to use a nuke on people. What ensued was a biggest dick contest that no one was willing to die over. So yes, either parties were not a threat to each other. It was media hype at the time like we get on social media and the tv today.

WookieMan says

Eric Holder says

WookieMan says

They were never a threat and that's part of the problem.

LOL

It was overhyped. It's always overhyped. No different than now how Trump was a Russian puppet. Fear controls people. Soviets were never a threat to mainland US no matter what you've read. It's all bullshit. MAD existed the minute 2 countries had nukes.

They had credible plans and means to roll through Europe all the way to English Channel in mere weeks though. I once talked to a former Soviet Colonel who was stationed in Eastern Germany back then. He confirmed that they were constantly planning and working on a blitzkrieg scenario wrt West Europe and calculation whether or not US would resort to use nukes to stop them. The thinking was if they manage to move fast enough and present US with a fait accompli US would let it go, because using nukes is MAD and another D-day type of operation is practically impossible nowadays.

Eric Holder says

They had credible plans and means to roll through Europe all the way to English Channel in mere weeks though. I once talked to a former Soviet Colonel who was stationed in Eastern Germany back then.

I don't dispute your claim. You're also under the assumption he knew the final plans. He could have been lied to as a moral booster for his troops. It's a strategy of every military higher up. If you think your leaders believe a blitzkrieg scenario is possible, you buy in and it builds confidence. Trickle down so to speak.

And again, not saying it wasn't true what you mention, just saying it's unlikely the Soviets were ever an actual threat to our mainland. Iraq was a threat from all the Saudi terrorists. So there's that. Media and government lie to cover their tracks or make money.

WookieMan says

the Soviets were ever an actual threat to our mainland.

Well, if we are to go this route neither Germany nor Japan were never a threat to our mainland. Neither in 1917, nor in 1941.

PS. I think the cucked behavior of US leadership towards Soviets all the way up until Reagan kinda confirms they thought that the risk to lose Europe was credible. Reagan turned the whole thing on its head by deploying middle-range missiles in Europe thus neutering the whole "leap to the Channel" idea.

WookieMan says

Onvacation says

Don't hate me because I am a boomer. That is playing right into their hand.

I don't hate individual boomers. Your leaders suck though.

@Onvaction - what WookieMan is saying is true. Look at who runs our nation today. They are AWFUL. Our news media is controlled by your generation now - we've always had propaganda, but YEEESH - it's nothing but propaganda now. Blatantly obvious, they don't even try to be credible, they MOCK us "Look, we're in control, fuck you!"

I wrote a long rant on this, but I need to solidify my thoughts on it. There's plenty of GREAT people in the boomer generation, I know quite a few, but the leadership of that generation that runs this nation now.... It's abysmal.

I have to do more research to have a more coherent opinion, but I thought the "anti-war" generation wouldn't drag us into war, after war, after war, after war. That's my greatest disappointment with the boomers. It seems to create a lot of bloodshed and misery. The generation that was old enough to live through the Gulf of Tonkin Incident and the Pentagon Papers - I expected them to be more resistant to propaganda and I'm bitterly disappointed that it took them 20 years to realize it's all bullshit. That's nearly 1/2 my life - they had a headstart.

richwicks says

I have to do more research to have a more coherent opinion, but I thought the "anti-war" generation wouldn't drag us into war, after war, after war, after war.

It's quite simple really - as long as they can send someone else to fight and die for their goals of conquest, they support it. Pure, solopsistic, narcissisistic self interest.