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Thanks @Patrick, I will listen to his lecture. He is a highly decorated scientist, as can be seen below. I advise our more liberal Patnetters to listen him because SCIENCE!

Our more conservative Patnetters should realize that there are many honest scientists out there (probably MOST of scientists are honest), but they are silenced by MSM and social media.

This guy probably has more awards, achievements, and citations than most amateurs who scream about DEATH! FROM! CORONA! taken together.

Honors & Awards

Albert Stuyvenberg Medal, European Society for Clinical Investigation (2021)
Elected corresponding member, Accademia delle Scienze (Bologna) (2021)
Haldane lecture, Wolfson College, Oxford University (2021)
Honorary doctorate (medicine), University of Edinburgh (2021)
J Arliss Pollock Award and Memorial Lecture, American Society of Neuroradiology (2021)
Morris/Paffenbarger Exercise is Medicine® Keynote Lecture, American College of Sports Medicine (2021)
Roy and Diana Vagelos inaugural lecture, World Hellenic Biomedical Association (2021)
Honorary doctorate, Aristotle University of Thessaloniki (2020 (award ceremony 2021))
C.R. Stephen lecture, Washington University St. Louis (2019)
Gordon Award, National Institutes of Health (2019)
Honorary PhD, University of Tilburg (2019)
Honorary President, Medical and Surgical Society of Corfu (2019)
Elected member, National Academy of Medicine (2018-)
David and Rosemary Adamson Lecture on Excellence in Reproductive Medicine, ASRM (2018)
Einstein fellow, Berlin Institute of Health, Einstein Stiftung and Stiftung Charite (2018)
Epiphany Science Courage Award, Novim (inaugural award) (2018)
Gonatas memorial lectureship, University of Pennsylvania (2018)
Elected Councilor, Association of American Physicians (2017-2022)
Annual Distinguished Investigator, University of Connecticut School of Medicine and Health Center (2017)
Chanchlani Award for Global Health, McMaster University (2017)
David-Sackett-Preis, Deutsche Netzwerk Evidenzbasierte Medizin (2017)
Honorary PhD (health sciences), University of Athens (2017)
Snively visiting professorship, UC Davis (2017)
Anatomy Lesson lecturer, University of Amsterdam and Academic Medical Center (2016)
Harris lectureship in science and civilization, Caltech (2016)
Levine lectureship, Yale (2016)
Lifetime Achievement Award, Hellenic Society for Pharmacological Science (2016)
Snyder Lectureship, University of Utah (2016)
Elected member, European Academy of Sciences and Arts (2015-)
Elected member, American Epidemiological Society (2015-)
Honorary PhD, Erasmus University Rotterdam (2015)
Litchfield Lectureship, Oxford University (2015)
Medal for Distinguished Service, Teachers College, Columbia University (2015)
Honorary member, FORTH (2014)
Honorary professor (omotimos), University of Ioannina (2014)
Elected fellow, European Academy of Cancer Sciences (2010-)
President, Society for Research Synthesis Methodology (2009-2010)
Elected member, Association of American Physicians (2009-)
European Award for Excellence in Clinical Science, European Society for Clinical Investigation (2007)
Executive board member and center director, Human Genome Epidemiology Network (2004-)

I am speechless. How could be be so fucking stupid?

Thanks, Patrick. Very low risk, in the range of flu or less, if you are healthy. If you are elderly, in a nursing home with pre-existing conditions, the risk is higher.

Fauci is, at the least, out of touch, and at the worst, a murdering prima dona. Biden is a brain dead mumbling head.

It's all abut fear, control, and misleading the sheeple who crave someone telling them what to do.

When you find yourself in a hole, quit digging, but this is the opposite of what the Democrats are doing.

Stanford debunked all of this stuff since early 2020 by using serum testing of samples of populations to see who already had Covid (different from fake PCR testing). Those 'inference' tests can indicate how many in a population have been exposed and generated antibodies, but can't say when they were exposed or how, so they offer no time line. Because these epidemiologists and public health figures from Stanford have preserved their honor, I was surprised that the rank and file authoritarians at Stanford are still mandating vaccine passports for students and faculty. If I were them, I would strike.

listened to most of it...I don't agree with all of what he says as he is covering his ass sometimes, but overall seems quite reasonable.

I found some of his stances a bit questionable as well. Such as how he "believed" masks still work, even after referring to a study that showed they didn't and admitting the writers of that finding received death threats for their efforts.

I watched several of the scientists last year who were baffled and were proceeding along the lines that they were dealing with honorable people doing honorable things and that everybody would figure it out and do the right thing based on reason. Then, I watched them get more stressed and afraid. Some just stopped posting stuff. They finally figured out they were dealing with the nexus of Globalist evil who would get them fired, remove their grants, and attack their licenses if they didn't toe the terrorist line.

I'm surprised he went as far as he did in this video. He is inviting those threatening phone calls in the middle of the night and those mysterious rebukes from his superiors in his workplace. The mask shit is utterly ludicrous, and is nothing more than a ritual humiliation of the populace for the glee of the Globalists dick heads. Ioannidis knows this full well which shows he has not been unscathed by the threats. I notice he tries to soft shoe the findings, too, rather than just stating it's all a fucking fraud.

I was pleased that he recognized that the response to COVID is totally out of proportion to the actual risk it poses.

I was nonplussed that he somehow tied COVID to racial injustice and inequality.

I was enraged to find him just another centralized planner who views COVID as an excellent opportunity to "fix" the masses of their dirty habits ... ie... smoking and obesity.

This guy may be right on the science but he should not be allowed within a mile of public policy making.

Ceffer says

The mask shit is utterly ludicrous, and is nothing more than a ritual humiliation of the populace for the glee of the Globalists dick heads.

Best comment on masking I've seen.

Ceffer says

I watched several of the scientists last year who were baffled and were proceeding along the lines that they were dealing with honorable people doing honorable things and that everybody would figure it out and do the right thing based on reason. Then, I watched them get more stressed and afraid. Some just stopped posting stuff. They finally figured out they were dealing with the nexus of Globalist evil who would get them fired, remove their grants, and attack their licenses if they didn't toe the terrorist line.

I'm surprised he went as far as he did in this video. He is inviting those threatening phone calls in the middle of the night and those mysterious rebukes from his superiors in his workplace. The mask shit is utterly ludicrous, and is nothing more than a ritual humiliation of the populace for the glee of the Globalists dick heads. Ioannidis knows this full well which shows he has not been unscathed by the threats.

A friend of mine, virologist, said that he will not touch the "covid shit" with a 1000-foot pole, since it is too politicized and grant- and reputation-wise it is a loss/loss proposition for his research group.

stfu says

I was nonplussed that he somehow tied COVID to racial injustice and inequality.

I noticed this bullshit too.

But at least he points out that the lockdowns caused way more harm than good.

https://www.aussie17.com/p/dr-aseem-malhotras-explosive-court

...the man who I call the Stephen Hawking of medicine is Professor John Ioannidis from the University of Stanford. The reason I call him the Stephen Hawking of Medicine is he's the most cited medical researcher in the world and is a mathematical genius. In 2006, he published a paper which was entitled why most published research findings are false. In that paper, he makes a point that the greater the financial interests in a given field, the less likely the research findings are to be true.

I say this in context of the Pfizer mRNA vaccine which has made the company $100 billion. The other point that he makes in a further paper in 2017 is, again, the reason the system continues as it is is most doctors are unaware of the information they receive when they make clinical decisions has been corrupted by commercial influence.

https://unexpectedturns.substack.com/p/death-threats-to-top-scientists-questioning

Interviewer: I would like to go back to this climate that was prevalent… and maybe you can describe… the climate… in the scientific debate in the beginning of the corona pandemic [in Spring 2020] when it came to expressing opinions that were… maybe not the mainstream narrative. How was it for you? What did you experience?

Ioannidis: It was a very toxic environment, I think, for anyone who wanted to be involved in these debates, and try to present some data, some evidence, and speculate about what it meant. I think that people had taken very strong positions, and there was very strong polarisation and partisanship, and a sense of ideology running the show. So that was not really the best circumstances for doing science, especially for someone who has no political ideology and doesn’t want to satisfy one narrative or another. Death threats were very commonplace.

Interviewer: Also to you?

Ioannidis: Of course. Both myself and every single member in my family… were attacked in ways that I could never have imagined would be possible to happen… The environment was so toxic that the vast majority of credentialed scientists, who might have some expertise that would be relevant to epidemiology — of course it was a new virus, so no-one really was an expert on this virus when it all started — but at least people who had the background and the credentials that would be relevant… most of those self-silenced…

I’ve heard from so many people, telling me, “John, this is unbelievable. We can’t believe that this is happening. If you are attacked in such a way… if we were to try to do anything or say anything, we would be completely annihilated… we would disappear from the map. And our careers would end. Who knows? Maybe we will be dead?” Everything was possible at that time… the way that the behaviour of the mob and of politicians and mass media and even legacy media and influencers were operating… And I think this meant that even though eventually we got two million people writing about covid-19 [published in the peer-reviewed literature], when we needed it, the best epidemiologists just stepped down.

Most of the people who dictated the narratives had no clue about epidemiology. They may have had some expertise — some of them — in some other fields. There were some very good virologists, for example. There were a few people who had good expertise in some other fields… but not really in epidemiology. I think that epidemiologists were very quickly seeing my paradigm, and other people in epidemiology who were equally silenced and destroyed. They moved out, and and they left epidemiology to people who were not epidemiologists.

Interviewer: What made you stay and and speak about it and publish about it?

Ioannidis: I think that could have been obsession [laughs]. Maybe I was opinionated and wrong. Who knows? But I also felt that I had to try to do the best science that I could, because I thought that it was a major crisis with multiple dimensions, and there were lots of things at stake.

I think that it would be shameful for me to just say, “I’m not going to work on this once I started working, and doing my first studies in the field. It was something that could make a difference if we made the right choices or the wrong choices. So yes, I’m sorry that [laughs] I continue to to do science… Perhaps some of that was wrong. Perhaps other pieces were more correct than others. Who knows? I think that that would take a very long time to arbitrate. But I thought that it was important to try to get as much reliable evidence as possible.