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Bd6r
2021 Jul 30, 8:49am
Bd6r
2021 Jul 30, 8:49am
@Zak,
I finally found detailed enough data, from Great Britain. Link: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
Table 5
and this is summary which I lifted from @DavidBCollum
It shows MORE statistically adjusted deaths in vaccinated people FROM CORONA. Since people are more likely to get vaccinated if they have health problems, this is not a completely clean comparison but it is as good as it gets.
I finally found detailed enough data, from Great Britain. Link: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
Table 5
and this is summary which I lifted from @DavidBCollum
It shows MORE statistically adjusted deaths in vaccinated people FROM CORONA. Since people are more likely to get vaccinated if they have health problems, this is not a completely clean comparison but it is as good as it gets.
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mell
2021 Jul 30, 10:08am
Bd6r says
Absolutely - also many with health conditions cannot get vaccinated because of those so that should smooth out in the other direction. Either way if the agent were effective your co-morbidities should not matter much since a true "vaxxine" protects you from infection thoroughly, so you should never get !covid! in the first place (aside from such mild symptoms that you won't have to go to the hospital). It DOES NOT WORK.
@Zak,
I finally found detailed enough data, from Great Britain. Link: https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
Table 5
and this is summary which I lifted from @DavidBCollum
It shows MORE statistically adjusted deaths in vaccinated people FROM CORONA. Since people are more likely to get vaccinated if they have health problems, this is not a completely clean comparison but it is as good as it gets.
Absolutely - also many with health conditions cannot get vaccinated because of those so that should smooth out in the other direction. Either way if the agent were effective your co-morbidities should not matter much since a true "vaxxine" protects you from infection thoroughly, so you should never get !covid! in the first place (aside from such mild symptoms that you won't have to go to the hospital). It DOES NOT WORK.
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Zak
2021 Jul 30, 1:33pm
Bd6r says
Yeah, wow this is crazy.. !!!
If you look at the breakdown (table 5 pg 18/19), it shows it's worse for the over 50 crowd, and worse with 2 doses, and where the majority of the stat comes from! HOLY MOLY!
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
It shows MORE statistically adjusted deaths in vaccinated people FROM CORONA. Since people are more likely to get vaccinated if they have health problems, this is not a completely clean comparison but it is as good as it gets.
Yeah, wow this is crazy.. !!!
If you look at the breakdown (table 5 pg 18/19), it shows it's worse for the over 50 crowd, and worse with 2 doses, and where the majority of the stat comes from! HOLY MOLY!
https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1005517/Technical_Briefing_19.pdf
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Zak
2021 Jul 30, 3:34pm
richwicks says
One. Dimensional. Analysis. Makes. You. Ignorant.
See. Periods. Between. Words. Mean. Nothing. About. Your. Point.
You are correct that vaccines do not prevent infections. Seat belts don't prevent crashes either. Even smallpox vaccines don't prevent smallpox!
You are starting to learn about the world young padawan.. Keep your questions coming!
The. Vaccine. Does. Not. Prevent. Infection.
One. Dimensional. Analysis. Makes. You. Ignorant.
See. Periods. Between. Words. Mean. Nothing. About. Your. Point.
You are correct that vaccines do not prevent infections. Seat belts don't prevent crashes either. Even smallpox vaccines don't prevent smallpox!
You are starting to learn about the world young padawan.. Keep your questions coming!
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FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2021 Jul 30, 3:53pm
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut
2021 Jul 30, 3:53pm
zzyzzx says
it would at least be on gab.com or fucking patriots.win or some other pro republican publication. but nothing man. these people are well off, they have connections, they should be able to pull some shit off. but they don't even try. Our own CA republicans here, they are too cowardly, it's pathetic, they just know how to be nice, they don't know how to be dangerous.
FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut saysFucking Republicans better go get jobs at Quiznos like Tucker said, if they don't start speaking up, fucking cowards.
How would you know if they are speaking up, since they are getting censored?
it would at least be on gab.com or fucking patriots.win or some other pro republican publication. but nothing man. these people are well off, they have connections, they should be able to pull some shit off. but they don't even try. Our own CA republicans here, they are too cowardly, it's pathetic, they just know how to be nice, they don't know how to be dangerous.
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mell
2021 Jul 30, 4:04pm
Zak says
That's not true. Historically smallpox vaccine prevented infection in 95% of exposures. Close to half of Americans have been vaccinated. You'd expect clise to zero hospitalizations, even close to zero infections for the vaccinated if it would even remotely be working as well. The experimental biological agent doesn't work at all at best and makes things far worse at worst.
richwicks saysThe. Vaccine. Does. Not. Prevent. Infection.
One. Dimensional. Analysis. Makes. You. Ignorant.
See. Periods. Between. Words. Mean. Nothing. About. Your. Point.
You are correct that vaccines do not prevent infections. Seat belts don't prevent crashes either. Even smallpox vaccines don't prevent smallpox!
You are starting to learn about the world young padawan.. Keep your questions coming!
That's not true. Historically smallpox vaccine prevented infection in 95% of exposures. Close to half of Americans have been vaccinated. You'd expect clise to zero hospitalizations, even close to zero infections for the vaccinated if it would even remotely be working as well. The experimental biological agent doesn't work at all at best and makes things far worse at worst.
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richwicks
2021 Jul 30, 4:14pm
richwicks
2021 Jul 30, 4:14pm
Zak says
Look, I had a neighbor that I was good friends with who worked with Genetech working on these exact formulations until she left in disgust because she believed it was a dead end.
She was a vet. Her job entailed killing mice, and lots of them. She considered the DNA immunization concept impossible. That was 20 years ago, but there was NO success with it at all.
I'm not a medical professional, but I am interested in medicine. It's fascinating, but I'm not suited to be either a doctor or a vet but I keep abreast of the technology. There are no mRNA or DNA vaccinations for animals, and none for people, until THESE two, which were rushed through. You are trusting your life and long term health to that. They've not even done this for farm animals, that live 1/3rd of their natural life before being slaughtered.
I know, from first hand experience, what fuckups brilliant, well educated people make on the first round. I know, for example why the red ring of death was so common on the XBox360, although I will never tell you. Don't buy the first generation of anything, but you are advocating it, and you're injecting it into your body. Xbox360 cost 300 bucks, this "vaccine" might cost you your health, your intelligence, or even your life. I'm well aware of mistakes in high tech.
Idiots are like "trust the science!!!" What that really mean, is trust the corporations. Don't trust us which are the cogs and wheels of the corporations. We fuck up plenty. You're a fool to trust the first generation of any product. But marketing trumps engineering or production of any sort. Your entire opinion is based on marketing, which is relentless. We can all be propagandized, me, and you. Good luck if you've taken this vaccine. Hopefully, this works as intended.
There's a reason these companies are indemnified from lawsuits. The executives do not have faith in the safety of these products otherwise they would not be indemnified. the FDA doesn't trust them. It's rumored (and you can check if you call up your insurance provider), that they don't cover you if you take this vaccine. Ask them for an explicit contractual agreement that you are still under full coverage, if you take this "vaccine".
richwicks saysThe. Vaccine. Does. Not. Prevent. Infection.
One. Dimensional. Analysis. Makes. You. Ignorant.
Look, I had a neighbor that I was good friends with who worked with Genetech working on these exact formulations until she left in disgust because she believed it was a dead end.
She was a vet. Her job entailed killing mice, and lots of them. She considered the DNA immunization concept impossible. That was 20 years ago, but there was NO success with it at all.
I'm not a medical professional, but I am interested in medicine. It's fascinating, but I'm not suited to be either a doctor or a vet but I keep abreast of the technology. There are no mRNA or DNA vaccinations for animals, and none for people, until THESE two, which were rushed through. You are trusting your life and long term health to that. They've not even done this for farm animals, that live 1/3rd of their natural life before being slaughtered.
I know, from first hand experience, what fuckups brilliant, well educated people make on the first round. I know, for example why the red ring of death was so common on the XBox360, although I will never tell you. Don't buy the first generation of anything, but you are advocating it, and you're injecting it into your body. Xbox360 cost 300 bucks, this "vaccine" might cost you your health, your intelligence, or even your life. I'm well aware of mistakes in high tech.
Idiots are like "trust the science!!!" What that really mean, is trust the corporations. Don't trust us which are the cogs and wheels of the corporations. We fuck up plenty. You're a fool to trust the first generation of any product. But marketing trumps engineering or production of any sort. Your entire opinion is based on marketing, which is relentless. We can all be propagandized, me, and you. Good luck if you've taken this vaccine. Hopefully, this works as intended.
There's a reason these companies are indemnified from lawsuits. The executives do not have faith in the safety of these products otherwise they would not be indemnified. the FDA doesn't trust them. It's rumored (and you can check if you call up your insurance provider), that they don't cover you if you take this vaccine. Ask them for an explicit contractual agreement that you are still under full coverage, if you take this "vaccine".
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Zak
2021 Jul 30, 10:10pm
mell says
Oop, see you just said it.. smallpox vaccine didn't prevent!
See how stupid gotchas are?
That's not true. Historically smallpox vaccine prevented infection in 95% of exposures.
Oop, see you just said it.. smallpox vaccine didn't prevent!
See how stupid gotchas are?
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