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There are 20% of people who are on the rabid left and 20% of people who are real conservatives. The 60% in the middle just drift back and forth depending on which side is perceived to be “winning.”
Actual free thinkers are maybe 10% total.
@richwicks you’ll never “convince” those in the middle. They’re always going to slide around as the boat rocks left and right. But you can create a perception that your side or your cause is 1)moral 2)popular, and 3)inevitable and that will bring the 60% to your side.

Staying silent won’t work at all. I think conservatives and true liberals are finally waking up to this truth, speaking our minds loud and proud, and watching the boat tip back to starboard.

richwicks says

People don't fucking care. so enjoy the government you allow to rule over you.

I am the government... Christ. Have you not read my comments??? I'm an elected official. That's not bull shit. I'm young(ish). Start low. State rep is the next step at some point. I'm an ass hole like you. You're not wrong, but on a forum every comment devolves into Iraq and WMD. I've yet to see a user disagree with your take INCLUDING me.

I'm just calling out your shit. I'm kind of frankly annoyed with all the covid bullshit, not you necessarily, but the guy that hosts this site. If you don't start small and bitch constantly, no one is listening. Make change. Maybe it's a city council seat. Maybe a county board seat. Next state. YOU CAN make change even if you think it's all corrupt. Everyone can make change. AND it's okay to bitch about it, but if you're not doing anything you're part of the problem. It becomes an echo chamber.

My small town has its flaws so I'm fucking doing something about it. I don't want to be political. I don't side with any party. Can we just fucking get something done that's not gay literally and figuratively?

Shaman says

There are 20% of people who are on the rabid left and 20% of people who are real conservatives. The 60% in the middle just drift back and forth depending on which side is perceived to be “winning.”
Actual free thinkers are maybe 10% total.
richwicks you’ll never “convince” those in the middle. They’re always going to slide around as the boat rocks left and right. But you can create a perception that your side or your cause is 1)moral 2)popular, and 3)inevitable and that will bring the 60% to your side.

Staying silent won’t work at all. I think conservatives and true liberals are finally waking up to this truth, speaking our minds loud and proud, and watching the boat tip back to starboard.

^^^^ This.

I stuck my neck out during the height of vax pressure. While my employer hadn't yet decided to mandate it, I made it known in a divisional meeting with senior corporate leadership present, that 1) the vax was EUA or experimental, 2) that means that informed consent is necessary, and no one can be legally compelled to take it, and 3) if the corporation nevertheless pushed the clot shot, that they would be exposing themselves to major class-action liability lawsuits.

I also made it known to certain managers that I would personally sue anyone who threatened my job because I wouldn't disclose my vaccination status.

We'll see how this plays out over the next few years. Perhaps I've been black listed as a troublemaker, or I have been the voice of all those too afraid to rock the boat and this sparked other conversations.

WookieMan says

I am the government... Christ. Have you not read my comments??? I'm an elected official. That's not bull shit. I'm young(ish). Start low. State rep is the next step at some point. I'm an ass hole like you.

Pfft, another welfare whore. Let me tell you what is going to happen, you'll be a puppet and you'll keep your head down. You'll exploit the office, and nothing else. Government isn't the solution. It's a criminal syndicate, nothing more.

WookieMan says

You're not wrong, but on a forum every comment devolves into Iraq and WMD. I've yet to see a user disagree with your take INCLUDING me.

The Iraq War is a SYMPTOM. They'll just as unconsciously murder Americans as they will anybody else. Don't you realize that? Palestine Ohio is fucked, they don't care. The only reason we even know about it, is independent press.

WookieMan says

I'm just calling out your shit. I'm kind of frankly annoyed with all the covid bullshit, not you necessarily, but the guy that hosts this site. If you don't start small and bitch constantly, no one is listening. Make change.

There's no white hat marching in a silver horse to save the day.

You could become supreme dictator of the United States, and I guarantee you won't fix it. Our government, no matter HOW OUTRAGEOUS it acts, never reforms, never goes in reverse, EVER.

So, let it fucking collapse.

You don't quite understand what is going on. We would NOT have censorship, if it mattered what people said. People are more pissed than you realize. I've been aware of government corruption all my adult life to varying degrees. At 25 or so, I realized everything I had been told about the "complex situation in Israel" was very simple - a bunch of European Jews made a bunch of natives second class citizens in their own land, stole their property. I knew from that the "news" media could make "mistakes". Took another 10 years to realize they don't make mistakes, they LIE.

It took me to about 40 or so to realize just how corrupt it is. Media always lies in favor of war, they distort information, government officials are outright criminals, they commonly lie to Congress and Congress knows it, and doesn't care, there's open bribery that's been going on for DECADES, the intelligence agencies run fully 1/2 of the child pornography sites.

Now here's the kicker, I can educate a 20 year old kid about all this in a matter of days. They don't have to figure it out like I did and there's a LOT of people that are that young, who are as cynical as I am.

You think getting "the right person in the right spot" will fix it. No. Education will. The primary problem is education.

If Americans simply knew. The problem is that people don't have any fucking balls. They are compelled to lie, and are outraged if you won't do as they do. I'm tired of this shit. At one point, I wanted to reason people into it, get them to realize they had been lied to. At this point, you're just a fucking idiot and pussy if you can't see what I see. It's obvious. People who were demanding you get vaccinated and wear a mask, you should just SHAME them, and why? Because you can't reason with them, and they were shamed into demanding you get vaccinated and wear a mask. I'm becoming the monster I'm fighting. So be it.

stereotomy says

We'll see how this plays out over the next few years. Perhaps I've been black listed as a troublemaker, or I have been the voice of all those too afraid to rock the boat and this sparked other conversations.

Either is fine. You didn't sit on your ass and bitch here and do nothing. You stood up for your principles and said something where it mattered in your life. That's awesome. If the outcome ends up negative over time I imagine you'll be fine. richwicks says

The problem is that people don't have any fucking balls.

You don't dude. What have YOU done? Nothing besides bitch here on Patnet and probably other sites. You literally are doing nothing. Go out and get on your city council. If schools are indoctrinating children get on the school board. It's easy to bitch on a small forum. DO something. You're not listening.

I'm not part of any problem. I'm part of the solution. I'm actually on your side. Bitching about it constantly and not doing anything means nothing though. Do some leg work. Get elected and tell the idiots to fuck off. Or help make things better. You're doing neither.

Quote function is not working properly in comment 4453 here @Patrick Also parts of my comment were erased when posted. I'm not rewriting it but 4453 is a combo of other comments I drafted. No copy and paste. Not sure what is up. 100% not on my end.

WookieMan says

You don't dude. What have YOU done?

I cannot say without endangering myself. I've caused some waves. I'll leave it at that.

WookieMan says

Quote function is not working properly

I've seen it duplicate quotes, maybe because of a subtle "bounce" on the quote link when clicking.

The quote link also limits the amount of text you can quote to 1000 chars. I just chop it off after that and put a ... at the end. I know this can screw up html, but I haven't come up with a better solution yet.

Please send me instructions for duplicating the problem if you can.

First time I have actually heard a doctor say that vax toxins cause accelerated aging. Maybe why vaxxers appear to look shrunken and aged after vax.
https://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/forum.cgi?read=218385

33 Year Old Deputy dies after suddenly feeling ill during basic training, sheriff’s office says

https://www.live5news.com/2023/03/03/deputy-dies-after-suddenly-feeling-ill-during-basic-training-sheriffs-office-says/

https://kunstler.com/clusterfuck-nation/well-soon-find-out/

This week, Edward Dowd, the former BlackRock trader-turned-Covid-statistician — and author of the new Book Cause Unknown — released preliminary fourth quarter 2022 “excess deaths” numbers for group life insurance death claims compiled by the International Society of Actuaries (SOA).

For the age group up to age 44 excess deaths rose above the baseline (normal): 13 percent in October, 21 percent in November, and 43 percent in December. For the age group 45 to 64, the death rate above baseline rose 4 percent in October, 16 percent in November, and 35 percent in December. Mr. Dowd says that he is told the rates moving into the first quarter of 2023 are higher still. This is a what’s known as a trend, and a pretty ominous one.

It boils down to an awful lot of people in the prime of life dying off, and more every month. Nobody in any of the US public health agencies is talking about this. One very prominent official, Rochelle Wallensky, head of the CDC, is still busy arranging to dispense more Pfizer and Moderna mRNA vaccines to America’s school-children — the “vaccines” being the prime suspects causing those stunning excess death rates among the young and employed demographic. Nice work, Rochelle!

How do the approximately 70 percent of vaxxed-up Americans deal with this reality? Many, of course, are noticing vaxxed family members, friends, colleagues, sports figures, acquaintances getting sick and dying of sudden heart failure, strokes, aggressive cancers, strange neurological problems, and other mystifying syndromes. The aggregate reaction so far seems to be a numb despair. But then, the still-living vaxxed also have to contend with the anxiety over what is going on in their own bodies. Perhaps they’ve heard whispers from the more extreme voices on the margins of this discussion that every single person who got vaxxed might be subject to an early death on way or another. That’d be a reason to withdraw into the first stage of the Kübler-Ross Transect of Grief, which is denial… and just hunker down there… for now. It’s an awful lot to contend with.

'Nother field report. One of my wife's work acquaintance's 38 year old vaxxed son (successful business owner) died suddenly. It's Kaiser, so I presume he got the Kaiser vax, whatever that is.

Ceffer says

t's Kaiser, so I presume he got the Kaiser vax, whatever that is.

The Italians call that the "Kaiser Permanente"

If you haven't seen this, it's worth taking the time to watch. This is one of the first informative videos that I watched ... from very early on into the 'pandemic' roll out. The groundbreaking information provided by Dr. Tenpenny aged VERY well.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation Covid Vaccines Will Start Working in 3-6 Months

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/no_author/dr-sherri-tenpenny-explains-how-the-depopulation-covid-vaccines-will-start-working-in-3-6-months/

RayAmerica says

If you haven't seen this, it's worth taking the time to watch. This is one of the first informative videos that I watched ... from very early on into the 'pandemic' roll out. The groundbreaking information provided by Dr. Tenpenny aged VERY well.

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation Covid Vaccines Will Start Working in 3-6 Months

https://www.lewrockwell.com/2023/03/no_author/dr-sherri-tenpenny-explains-how-the-depopulation-covid-vaccines-will-start-working-in-3-6-months/

She says "maybe millions" will die. So, MAYBE 2 million people are going to die?

RayAmerica says

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation Covid Vaccines Will Start Working in 3-6 Months

In 3-6 months, it will be announced the massive die off will begin in 3-6 months.

Doesn't sound like much of a depop.

https://slaynews.com/news/actor-tom-sizemore-dead-61-suffering-stroke/

Hard to know if it was the vaxx, but strokes and aneurysms are typical results of the vaxx, so could be.

GNL says

She says "maybe millions" will die. So, MAYBE 2 million people are going to die?

I'm pretty confident that more than six million are dead globally from the vaxx so far, going by the multiple lines of evidence that 1/800 die from it. Others estimate 13 million dead already.

Irichwicks says

RayAmerica says

Dr. Sherri Tenpenny Explains How the Depopulation Covid Vaccines Will Start Working in 3-6 Months

In 3-6 months, it will be announced the massive die off will begin in 3-6 months.

It is already happening but nobody wants to talk about it or admit it. Lots of people are getting sudden quick deadly cancers; having to go to the hospital with sudden breathing problems then found dead a few days later at home; strokes, heart attacks and all the vaccinated people that look like they have aged 10 years in a few months.

If you are not noticing all of that you are either in denial or need to have a bigger social circle.

Keep in mind that the above Dr. Tenpenny interview took place only 30 days after the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccine' was being jabbed into the arms of the American sheeple.

RayAmerica says

Keep in mind that the above Dr. Tenpenny interview took place only 30 days after the EXPERIMENTAL 'vaccine' was being jabbed into the arms of the American sheeple.

I thought that was the case.

ElYorsh says

If you are not noticing all of that you are either in denial or need to have a bigger social circle.

We're not experiencing a mass die off event. More people are dying, and I'm certain the vaccine is at fault, but if we were having a SERIOUS die off, there would be a lot more ambulances driving around, and there aren't.

Everything is always blown out of proportion. Instead of just reflecting reality accurately, it's also WAY on one side or WAY on another. They do this with the Ukraine war today, all the time. Russia is just about to lose, and Russia is just about to win - those are the two sides that are constantly argued about, but the US has a 20 year history of dragging out wars FOREVER, and this is a US war even if it's a proxy war for them.

Who out there is making the OBVIOUS prediction this war will go on for YEARS? For Ukraine it's a meat grinder, and for Russia it's just running that meat grinder.

richwicks says

ElYorsh says

If you are not noticing all of that you are either in denial or need to have a bigger social circle.

We're not experiencing a mass die off event. More people are dying, and I'm certain the vaccine is at fault, but if we were having a SERIOUS die off, there would be a lot more ambulances driving around, and there aren't.

Everything is always blown out of proportion. Instead of just reflecting reality accurately, it's also WAY on one side or WAY on another. They do this with the Ukraine war today, all the time. Russia is just about to lose, and Russia is just about to win - those are the two sides that are constantly argued about, but the US has a 20 year history of dragging out wars FOREVER, and this is a US war even if it's a proxy war for them.

Who out there is making the OBVIOUS prediction this war will go on for YEARS? For Ukraine it's a meat...

I agree that there have as yet been only highly significant (4-sigma) excess deaths but not a mass die-off. If, as some have suggested, the damage caused by the toxxine to the reproductive systems of men and women are 1) irreversible and 2) possibly hereditary, then this will take another 2-3 decades to play out.

richwicks says

but if we were having a SERIOUS die off, there would be a lot more ambulances driving around, and there aren't.

That's your sign of a "mass die off event?" Ambulances in your local area? Back when people were still actively getting shots, I was hearing far more ambulances than ever before. Just in my family alone we've had more deaths since roll out than the previous ten years combined. Let's not forget that cancers are skyrocketing, those people will be dead sooner rather than later. Let's not also forget that when people die, we not only lose a loved one but we lose someone with life skill and employment experience. The entire workforce feels the loss. We've lost more Americans to the vax than entire wars.

What exactly do you want before you understand the severity of the issue? Is your issue literally just whatever you define as "mass death?" This is what mass death looks like in an age of media coverups and an apathetic populous. This is genuinely the biggest atrocity committed in recent history and we still have people going "it's not that bad?" What is a "mass die off" to you? Please define it so I can understand your stance.

DhammaStep says

richwicks says

but if we were having a SERIOUS die off, there would be a lot more ambulances driving around, and there aren't.

That's your sign of a "mass die off event?" Ambulances in your local area? Back when people were still actively getting shots, I was hearing far more ambulances than ever before.

I live on a busy street that is also an emergency/first-responder corridor. My employer had us work from home from 3/20 to the present. In the initial phase of the lockdown (most of 2020) there was no traffic and no ambulances. Once the clot-shot hit (late 2020, through 2021) I was hearing ambulances up to two dozen time a day. Even now, I still hear them, although things have dropped off - I don't hear more than 2 or 3 a day.

The clot shot has killed a lot of people who would not have otherwise died.

https://lionessofjudah.substack.com/p/terrible-professor-unexpectedly-dies

Traci Michele Johnson, an otherwise healthy professor who enjoyed walking eight miles per day appears to have died suddenly without explanation exactly one week to the day after receiving her last booster shot.

Traci complained just two nights before her death about not getting any sleep and feeling off, so much so that the very next day she posted about accidentally leaving her dinner in the oven all night as she passed out in the evening and never woke up till the late morning of February 16th.

This post would prove ominous as in it she thanked Jesus for keeping her alive while her oven remained on all night. Unfortunately, her luck would run out within 24 hours. On the morning of February 17th, Ms. Johnson was found dead in her sleep, assumedly by her live-in partner Bill.

stereotomy says

The clot shot has killed a lot of people who would not have otherwise died.

That's not serious though. Nothing to see here.

stereotomy says

The clot shot has killed a lot of people who would not have otherwise died.

I'm certain this is true. The 562,100 in the graph above sounds about right to me.

In my 20 years of riding Caltrain I never saw a medical emergency. Then when they were vaxxing, I rode Caltrain once to visit someone in SF and that train was delayed so that paramedics could get a guy having some sudden problem. Seems like a heart attack. Just an anecdote, but it fits.

A mass die off would look like the bubonic plague. People dead in the streets. This is no mass die off.

GNL says

A mass die off would look like the bubonic plague. People dead in the streets. This is no mass die off.

I can't help but laugh. Your definition of a mass die off calls back to when people didn't even understand that washing their hands were important? Let's all just forget basic hygiene and start leaving corpses sitting everywhere now because otherwise all of these deaths mean nothing. LMAO

GNL says

A mass die off would look like the bubonic plague. People dead in the streets. This is no mass die off.

This is what a mass die off looks like:
https://youtu.be/GU0d8kpybVg

DhammaStep says

That's not serious though. Nothing to see here.

DhammaStep says

GNL says

A mass die off would look like the bubonic plague. People dead in the streets. This is no mass die off.

I can't help but laugh. Your definition of a mass die off calls back to when people didn't even understand that washing their hands were important? Let's all just forget basic hygiene and start leaving corpses sitting everywhere now because otherwise all of these deaths mean nothing. LMAO

A mass die off isn't noticeable? To me, a mass die off would be deaths outnumbering the ability to keep up with it at least.

richwicks says

ElYorsh says

If you are not noticing all of that you are either in denial or need to have a bigger social circle.

We're not experiencing a mass die off event. More people are dying, and I'm certain the vaccine is at fault, but if we were having a SERIOUS die off, there would be a lot more ambulances driving around, and there aren't.

Everything is always blown out of proportion. Instead of just reflecting reality accurately, it's also WAY on one side or WAY on another. They do this with the Ukraine war today, all the time. Russia is just about to lose, and Russia is just about to win - those are the two sides that are constantly argued about, but the US has a 20 year history of dragging out wars FOREVER, and this is a US war even if it's a proxy war for them.

Who out there is making the OBVIOUS prediction this war will go on for YEARS? For Ukraine it's a meat...

That is why I said to broaden your social circle. My examples come from people I know personally or through friends and relatives, not from overblown news reports or social media posts.

Another "vaxxident"

https://t.me/davidavocadowolfe/89371
https://dailyclout.io/report-58-part-2-autopsies-reveal-medical-atrocities-of-genetic-therapies-being-used-against-a-respiratory-virus/