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WookieMan says

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just intrigued by the differences in all six of reactions of our group. Tin foil hat stuff, but was the vaccine designed to keep you sick longer? Keep you buying OTC fever reducers/pain reliever, Nyquil or prescribed drugs. We have a group text going and we're all talking multiple times a day how were feeling. We all got it at a similar time with symptoms kicking in at the same time. It's kind of decent little micro study of covid to be honest. 3 of the vaccinated had covid once before, so apparently no immunity for them. I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

What you're observing (jabbed people being sick longer) is what the immunologists call "original antigenic sin." The body produces antibodies from T-cells. These T-cells are continually created by the body, and lots of them are different in random ways. When you get an infection, the T-cells producing the effective antibodies multiply, and your body now has adequate immune response to the pathogen du jour. Other T-cells which are not producing effective antibodies stay relatively inactive and eventually die to make space for the effective T-cells.

The problem with the jab is that it stimulates a massive T-cell response to produce antibodies to a particular spike protein. There are virtually no other T-cells available if another different pathogen infects you. Your reserves of T-cells have been temporarily depleted; in the meantime, the new pathogen runs rampant until a new population of T-cells, created randomly, grows large enough to produce antibodies for the new pathogen.

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

Satan smiles.. Truth can only be used as a last resort.

stereotomy says

WookieMan says

Sorry for the long comment, I'm just intrigued by the differences in all six of reactions of our group. Tin foil hat stuff, but was the vaccine designed to keep you sick longer? Keep you buying OTC fever reducers/pain reliever, Nyquil or prescribed drugs. We have a group text going and we're all talking multiple times a day how were feeling. We all got it at a similar time with symptoms kicking in at the same time. It's kind of decent little micro study of covid to be honest. 3 of the vaccinated had covid once before, so apparently no immunity for them. I'm rambling now, I'll stop.

What you're observing (jabbed people being sick longer) is what the immunologists call "original antigenic sin." The body produces antibodies from T-cells. These T-cells are continually created by the body, and lots of them are different in random ways. When you get an infection,...

That and ADE is also a real possibility, given how quickly the virus mutates. Antibodies meant to neutralize the virus dock on and wait for macrophage to eat them but instead the virus will infect the unsuspecting cleanup crew because it shifted its protein surface slightly enough to still fit the antibody but not to become incapacitated by it. Double whammy

stereotomy says

The problem with the jab is that it stimulates a massive T-cell response to produce antibodies to a particular spike protein. There are virtually no other T-cells available if another different pathogen infects you. Your reserves of T-cells have been temporarily depleted; in the meantime, the new pathogen runs rampant until a new population of T-cells, created randomly, grows large enough to produce antibodies for the new pathogen.

Ah, I never got this part before.

B-cells produce antibody, or, more correctly, they mature into plasma cells which produce antibodies. Helper T cells (CD4 T cells) interact with B cells to stimulate them to develop into antibody producing cells. Immune repertoire is quite an amazing thing. Due to centuries of evolution and genetic recombinations via mating, you have B cells and T cells that can recognize somewhere on the order 10∧10 to 10∧11 unique antigenic determinants.

"The surface immunoglobulin that serves as the B-cell antigen receptor (BCR) has two roles in B-cell activation. First, like the antigen receptor on T cells, it transmits signals directly to the cell's interior when it binds antigen (see Section 6-1). Second, the B-cell antigen receptor delivers the antigen to intracellular sites where it is degraded and returned to the B-cell surface as peptides bound to MHC class II molecules (see Chapter 5). The peptide:MHC class II complex can be recognized by antigen-specific armed helper T cells, stimulating them to make proteins that, in turn, cause the B cell to proliferate and its progeny to differentiate into antibody-secreting cells."

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/books/NBK27142/

stereotomy says

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

Given it's Turkey day coming up. We were likely infected last Friday at absolute latest, may have been Thursday night at the discoteca, lol. Meaning Thursday by CDC guidelines was day 0, my wife "should" be in the clear to not infect others by this Thursday, right? And I know you can't say definitively but her symptoms are rough, but has had no urge to visit a doc. So I'd peg it as a mild case. Symptoms do no necessarily mean it's transmissible after 5-7 days of knowing you were infected is my question.

We're just trying to figure out if we should cancel. Our kids were all sick as well while we were in Mexico. So there's a chance we had it when we went, just took longer for us and we passed it to our friends. Ultimately I don't think anyone is avoiding it this holiday season. Glad I got it out of the way and mine was super mild. Gonna test tonight and see my status. I feel fine though.

Post terrorist bribery revisionism:

https://rumble.com/v1vbzju-dr.-william-makis-93-dead-doctors-after-vaccine-rollout.html?mref=6zof&mc=dgip3&ep=1


original link

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-newly-hired-american-airlines-regional

A newly hired American Airlines regional jet pilot collapsed just after takeoff in Chicago on Saturday night
He could not be revived. Cause of death unknown; American will not disclose any details, including his vaccination status. The co-pilot took over and averted catastrophe.

I'm pretty sure I know his vaxx status.

https://ashmedai.substack.com/p/vermont-excess-death-anomalies-the

stereotomy says

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

This. I took it hours after symptoms first appeared. Much better within 24 hours. 48 hours since, only a bit of coughing and sneezing, otherwise 80% of normal. Today, third today, I'm 90%, just coughing up the last of the phlegm infrequently.

Neigh Neigh double dose at first symptoms, second dose regular on 2nd day, didn't bother 3rd day since whatever virus was obviously getting it's ass whopped.

AmericanKulak says

stereotomy says

TAKE IVERMECTIN. Ivermectin inhibits viral replication, it does not kill the virus. What this means is that Ivermectin stops the infection from getting worse, so that your immune system can mop up what damage has already been done. This is why it's critically important to use Ivermectin as early in the infection as possible.

This. I took it hours after symptoms first appeared. Much better within 24 hours. 48 hours since, only a bit of coughing and sneezing, otherwise 80% of normal. Today, third today, I'm 90%, just coughing up the last of the phlegm infrequently.

Neigh Neigh double dose at first symptoms, second dose regular on 2nd day, didn't bother 3rd day since whatever virus was obviously getting it's ass whopped.

I'm glad your personal horse is doing much better. My own horse noticed major improvements within 72 hours of taking the Ivermectin paste. From my own horse's experience, it needed to keep up the Ivermectin for about 7 days. The cool thing about Ivermectin is that it persists in my horse's body much longer than antibiotics, so unless your horse has a really bad viral sinusitis infection, 7 days should do just fine.

https://rumble.com/v1wac7i-world-premier-died-suddenly.html


original link

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/tragic-14-year-old-vaccine-myocarditis

The Tragic Story Of A 14-Year-Old Vaccine Myocarditis Victim — One Of Umpteen Males Misinformed By Health Authorities
Vaccine myocarditis is not trivial, mild, or "rare." In young men, it's a far greater risk than Covid hospitalization and death.
By Rav Arora

On May 12th of last year, school teacher Emily Jo took her 14-year-old son Aiden to get his first Pfizer vaccine dose. The public health authorities and her son’s pediatrician unanimously recommended vaccination, prompting her decision. She knew that mRNA shots caused some number of adverse events, like all vaccines, but was re-assured by the CDC and White House’s public recommendation.

“The talk amongst the mainstream medical community was that vaccine myocarditis was mild and that this was very rare,” she told me. ...






... “I had no idea how life altering ‘mild’ myocarditis actually is. I have a very hard time with the label ‘mild’ for anything that requires hospitalization and months of inactivity,” Emily Jo said.

Patrick says

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/a-newly-hired-american-airlines-regional

A newly hired American Airlines regional jet pilot collapsed just after takeoff in Chicago on Saturday night
He could not be revived. Cause of death unknown; American will not disclose any details, including his vaccination status. The co-pilot took over and averted catastrophe.

I'm pretty sure I know his vaxx status.

More about the dead pilot:

https://slaynews.com/news/airline-pilot-collapses-dies-suddenly-shortly-after-takeoff/

https://sagehana.substack.com/p/sudden-reporter-collapse-syndrome-f46

https://twitter.com/canindependent/status/1594800213448851456

The Canadian Independent
@canindependent
Watch: Prominent Virologist Dr. A. Oveta Fuller, who advocated for emergency use authorization of three Covid vaccines, has died suddenly from a brief unknown illness.

From the guy who sent this to me:

Question: What did she die of?
Answer: Suddenly.

Ah, thank you.

https://cubecubis.substack.com/p/what-the-hell-is-happening-to-germany

In the month of october 92,954 people died in Germany on a population of about 80 million. This is 14560 more than the last 4 years average. This equates to 19%. This is mind boggling. We just left a pandemic where apparently many of the most vulnerable were killed off meaning that theoretically we should have a number of years of lower all cause mortality due to many deaths being put forward by covid.

Patrick says

https://cubecubis.substack.com/p/what-the-hell-is-happening-to-germany

In the month of october 92,954 people died in Germany on a population of about 80 million. This is 14560 more than the last 4 years average. This equates to 19%. This is mind boggling. We just left a pandemic where apparently many of the most vulnerable were killed off meaning that theoretically we should have a number of years of lower all cause mortality due to many deaths being put forward by covid.

Shouldn't we be seeing excess deaths in our own data then? I can't see it anywhere other than reports and claims. I hear the claims just as you do, but I want to see raw data and know that the source data is reliable.

Well, where can we get that data?

Patrick says

Well, where can we get that data?

I have just been looking through various search engines for data and haven't seen anything alarming. I just finished watching "Died suddenly", they claim a HUGE decrease in fertility rate in Australia, but according to this:

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/people/population/births-australia/latest-release

It's actually increased in 2021.

I realize this could be false data, but I have listened read a TON of doom porn over my lifetime which is also false data.

Remember Sydney Powell and her "releasing the Kraken"? What happened to that? I don't trust people AT ALL anymore in the media at all. I need to see the data. They seemed comfortable posting graphs and making claims, but they didn't post sources.

I think the vaccines are basically (mostly) harmless except in rare events - and also, they are totally worthless.

I'm pretty sure the vaxx has a rate of about 0.1% serious injury or death. I've seen too much data from various sources which all converge on about that number.

That's still about 1000x higher than any truly "safe" vaccine.

Patrick says

I'm pretty sure the vaxx has a rate of about 0.1% serious injury or death. I've seen too much data from various sources which all converge on about that number.

That's still about 1000x higher than any truly "safe" vaccine.

If it's only a 0.1% chance of serious injury or death - they're going to get away with it. They NPC's will just deny it, call it coincidence, whatever.

Yes, that's happening right now.

It is entirely reasonable for deaths to increase year after year. The Western world is rapidly aging.

What is more, there is about a 32% increase in the amount of deaths from drug use during the Covid period. Hopefully this will straighten itself out, but given the weirdness going on in society, this may be structural. The sheer volume of fentanyl is staggering.

It's young people who are dropping dead lately, not the elderly so much.

Statistically there would be no yearly excess deaths every year because the deaths would have been averaged into the preceding 5 year average. The only reason that there is excess deaths every year, year after year is the aging population.

An increase in deaths from drug use for working age populations is currently statistically meaningful, however, if the rate of deaths does not continue to go up year after year and instead plateaus then after 5 years there would be no "excess" deaths from this as it would be taken into consideration in the average.

There is no excess deaths in the younger cohorts.

Misc says

There is no excess deaths in the younger cohorts.

For me it's not about the now, although there are cases that it appears after vaccination people are dying. Does it happen in other vaccines, yes. But for me it's what does the future hold? We simply don't know long term outcomes of what people put in their bodies.

What if in 3 years there's an uptick in a specific cancer? What if it's treatable? Who benefits from that? There are so many questions on a vax that was rushed through to production. It took many more years to get other vaccines made for much more lethal viruses. Only time will tell if there's a ticking time bomb in your body.

The crux of the issue at the end of the day for me is it's not working. Do you go to the dentist, they administer novocaine, start drilling and you feel every thing? That would not be tolerated. Yet that is 100% happening with this vaccine. You still get a flu and suffer through it. It's so obvious it's not even funny.

So the question then is why put this in your body? I worry about the start of 2023-24 school year. I fear this is going to become one of those required vaccines when you register your child for school. It's not necessarily their fault, but any Mother or Father that puts this BS in their kid is borderline child abuse. There's a high probability they've been vaccinated and then got covid. Yet still gave it to their kids. It's like you're not some unicorn the vaccine didn't work for you. It's not working for ANYONE.

Provisional Mortality Statistics
Provisional deaths data for measuring changes in patterns of mortality
Reference period
Jan - Jul 2022
Released
27/10/2022

Key statistics

In 2022, there were 111,008 deaths that occurred by 31 July and were registered by 30 September, which is 16,375 (17.3%) more than the historical average.

In July there were 17,936 deaths, 2,503 (16.2%) above the historical average.

There were 300 (22.5%) fewer deaths due to COVID-19 in August than July (see article).

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release

Misc says

There is no excess deaths in the younger cohorts.

False.

https://www.destatis.de/EN/Themes/Society-Environment/Population/Deaths-Life-Expectancy/_node.html

15 November 2022
Mortality figures in October 2022 19% above the median of previous years
92,954 people died in Germany in October 2022, according to extrapolated figures of the Federal Statistical Office (Destatis). This is 19%, or 14,560 cases, above the median of the years 2018 to 2021 for that month. While death figures as well as the difference between death figures and the comparative figures increased significantly at the beginning of the month, both values went down again at the end of the month. Covid-19 deaths, too, reached an interim high in the middle of the month, but they can only partly explain the difference. The ageing of the population had only a slight impact on the difference to the level recorded in previous years.

There are many such articles from every country with a lot of vaxxing.

https://www.abs.gov.au/statistics/health/causes-death/provisional-mortality-statistics/latest-release

In 2022, there were 111,008 deaths that occurred by 31 July and were registered by 30 September, which is 16,375 (17.3%) more than the historical average.
In July there were 17,936 deaths, 2,503 (16.2%) above the historical average.
There were 300 (22.5%) fewer deaths due to COVID-19 in August than July (see article).

Patrick says

https://twitter.com/canindependent/status/1594800213448851456

The Canadian Independent
canindependent
Watch: Prominent Virologist Dr. A. Oveta Fuller, who advocated for emergency use authorization of three Covid vaccines, has died suddenly from a brief unknown illness.

From the guy who sent this to me:

Question: What did she die of?
Answer: Suddenly.

Ah, thank you.

More about it:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/top-virologist-member-fda-advisory-panel-voted-covid-vaccine-emergency-use-authorization-dies-suddenly-brief-unknown-illness/

https://euroweeklynews.com/2022/09/19/pilot-novokuznetsk-st-petersburg-dies-suddenly-on-plane/

Lots of dead pilots recently.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2022/11/attorney-requested-represent-president-trump-denied-new-york-court-died-suddenly-last-week-48/

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/in-memory-of-those-who-died-suddenly-06b

Ames orchestra director Mary Kay Polashek has died
November 21, 2022

Ames, IA - A 63-year-old high school orchestra teacher of 40 years has died of rapid progression Amyotrophic Lateral Sclerosis (Lou Gehrig disease). Mary Polashek, 63, was only diagnosed with ALS last year. While the average lifespan for living with ALS is three years, in less than a year, Mrs. Polashek was forced to retire. She had expected to work through the rest of 2022 but was unable to due to the rapid progression of the disease. She passed away in her sleep at home.

https://news.yahoo.com/ames-orchestra-director-mary-kay-163339533.html

On February 5, 2022, the Ames School District started a weekly “vaccine clinic” to provide injections to school staff. That day they gave 100 shots, pledging to give the same number every Friday, until all 675 school district employees could be vaccinated:
'Like I'd won the lottery': Ames school district staff begins receiving COVID-19 vaccine
https://tinyurl.com/5f9v6xsj

California state correctional officer, 57, died suddenly after falling ill on duty
November 17, 2022

A California state correctional officer died suddenly on Wednesday after he fell ill on duty at San Quentin State Prison, according to the Department of Corrections and Rehabilitation. Officer Daniel Chrystaline, 57, became ill at about 5:30 a.m. and died at about 6:30 after he was transported to an outside hospital. The corrections department did not provide any more information. “We are deeply saddened by the sudden and unexpected passing of Officer Daniel J. Chrystaline,” spokeswoman Terri Harding said in an email.

https://www.aol.com/news/california-state-correctional-officer-57-233005105.html?guccounter=1

A judge in September 2021 ordered the prison system to implement a mandatory vaccine policy for all prison staff:
https://www.courthousenews.com/judge-imposes-vaccine-mandate-on-california-state-prisons/