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Wow, the left has promoted pedophilia for a long time


               
2021 Aug 1, 10:27am   6,261 views  98 comments

by Patrick   follow (59)  

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/child-abuse-avant-garde-pedophilia-children-nambla/


When child abuse was avant-garde
The prominence of pedophilia in Sixties and Seventies thought

Last month the New Yorker published an essay about a grotesque experiment that took place in West Germany in the 1970s, in which young boys who had been taken from, or abandoned by, their parents were placed with known pedophiles.

It was no accident. It was quite deliberate. The powerful sexologist Helmet Kentler believed that pedophilic guardianship would foster an open and unashamed attitude towards sex that would preclude the development of fascistic attitudes. As the New Yorker says:

’Kentler’s goal was to develop a child-rearing philosophy for a new kind of German man. Sexual liberation, he wrote, was the best way to “prevent another Auschwitz.”’

A sensible reader could guess what happened to the boys. Those that the New Yorker spoke to report feeling depression and rage deep into adulthood.

Kentler was appalling, but he was of his time. Taboos surrounding children were being eroded. The German Green party was especially notable for its enablement of child abuse. As the Times of London reported in 2015, ‘a paedophile network was active in the Berlin branch of the Green party until the mid-1990s, with potentially hundreds of victims’.

Daniel Cohn-Bendit, a leading student activist in the 1968 unrest and a prominent member of the Greens, wrote fantasies about sexual contact with children which he later awkwardly described as ‘irresponsible’ and ‘a type of manifesto against the bourgeois society’. Cohn-Bendit was not, as you might assume, a hair-brained student when he wrote that filth but 30 years old. Perhaps the bourgeois society had something — at least something — to be said for it.

You could attempt to ascribe all of this to post-war German pathologies — except that enthusiasm for the potential of childhood sexuality was common throughout the counter-cultural movements of the Sixties and Seventies. It may not have been a cause to rival the campaign against the war in Vietnam but it was a major one, with powerful friends.

Some cultural figures were very much self-interested. The French author Gabriel Matzneff wrote about raping children for years before it turned out that he was, of all things, a child rapist. It took the publication of Vanessa Springora’s memoir Consent, in 2020, in which she related being abused by Matzneff, for him to face repercussions. Being able to turn a sentence, it appears, is a good way of dodging a sentence. Your crimes are attributed to artistic license.

Others were driven by ideology. French intellectuals were especially energetic in their efforts to normalize pedophilia. A who’s-who of Gallic literary figures signed a petition in 1977 that called for sex between adults and children to be decriminalized, including Michel Foucault, Jacques Derrida, Jean-Paul Sartre and Simone de Beauvoir.

Foucault, who was posthumously charged with raping Tunisian boys by his fellow writer Guy Sorman last year (charges, in fairness, that are unproven and that Foucault is unable to respond to), helpfully clarified that when he said children he meant children. In a radio conversation in 1978 he dismissed the very concept of being underage:

‘An age barrier laid down by law does not have much sense. Again, the child may be trusted to say whether or not he was subjected to violence.’

Any child who is able to express themselves, he was explicitly suggesting, is able to ‘consent’ — as if an eight-year-old and an 18-year-old have the same psychological capacity. The generous explanation of such a belief is arrant foolishness. The alternative is criminal opportunism.

But amid enthusiasm for women’s liberation, gay liberation and the sexual revolution, it was tempting for progressives to assume that kids had been constrained by the repressive systems they believed had been confining them. Allen Ginsberg, author of the poem ‘Howl’, joined NAMBLA, the North American Man/Boy Love Association. Reportedly, Ginsberg said, ‘I’m a member of NAMBLA because I love boys too — everybody does, who has a little humanity.’ This seems a bit like saying that you are a national socialist because you like your nation and you’re very sociable.

In correspondence with Ginsberg, William Burroughs, author of The Naked Lunch, reported paying two Arabic boys to have sex with one another. Burroughs’s biographer Barry Miles claimed that Burroughs used this anecdote in The Naked Lunch ‘to purposely annoy his readers, a Swiftian gesture to reveal their prurience and to undermine their middle-class values’. It would seem more ‘Swiftian’ if Swift had actually eaten Irish kids.

Of course, all of these efforts failed. Pedophilia, thankfully, was a bridge too far for the general public — who had grown increasingly receptive to individual choice but who were not convinced by the idea that this principle could be extended to kids, or that strange, sweaty men talking about ‘man/boy love’ had any interest in the kids’ wellbeing.

Still, this dark phenomenon endures in relevance. We often hear about being on the ‘right side of history’, as if there is a natural drift of civilized societies towards a more enlightened state of being, associated, typically, with the discarding of taboos and the acceptance of new and innovative social standards. Sometimes a taboo should be discarded. But sometimes they have a damn good reason to exist and people should not feel narrow-minded or parochial for opposing change. You see, for example, the same exaggeration of childhood agency as a means of enabling exploitation in cases of so-called ‘drag kids’.

Sometimes, too, as this case reminds us, change is not inevitable and can be reversed. Foucault is still respected on the strength of other aspects of his work, but if he was demanding the end of age of consent laws nowadays he would lose his intellectual respectability before you could say ‘structuralism’.

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1   FortWayneAsNancyPelosiHaircut   @   2021 Aug 1, 10:48am  

Damn! That's really fucked up.
2   HeadSet   @   2021 Aug 1, 12:51pm  

Patrick says
’Kentler’s goal was to develop a child-rearing philosophy for a new kind of German man.

Wonder if anyone noticed that ironic phrase "child rearing" in an article about pedos.
3   stereotomy   @   2021 Aug 1, 1:25pm  

Patrick says
It was no accident. It was quite deliberate. The powerful sexologist Helmet Kentler believed that pedophilic guardianship would foster an open and unashamed attitude towards sex that would preclude the development of fascistic attitudes.


Watch what they say, not what they do. For all we know Kentler was a real-life "Boys from Brazil" Mengele-type character that was trying to reproduce Hitler by repeating the trauma of child sexual abuse. Those Nazis were pretty fucked up with the leather, etc., not to mention the brown shirts were led by a fag.
4   Patrick   @   2021 Aug 1, 1:32pm  

HeadSet says
Wonder if anyone noticed that ironic phrase "child rearing" in an article about pedos.



Oh damn, lol.
5   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2021 Aug 1, 7:43pm  

Just a reminder, that the Franklin Coverup scandal revealed deep networks across politics, law enforcement(local and federal), and CPS that went back to the 50's. But the particular party most directly involved were the Republicans.

When it comes to pedophilia, they're all to blame.
6   Karloff   @   2021 Aug 1, 9:24pm  

They defend and cover for these sickos for as long as they can, until the lid is blown completely off.

Kevin Spacey
Jimmy Savile
James Gunn
Bryan Singer

https://federalobserver.com/2020/03/06/brad-pitt-reveals-elite-hollywood-pedophiles-control-america/
7   Patrick   @   2021 Aug 1, 10:51pm  

Maybe everyone with a sodomy flag out front should get a NAMBLA flyer in the same colors, thanking them for supporting pedophilia, and explaining that the majority of gays were created through pedophilia, by gay men molesting boys.
8   Patrick   @   2021 Aug 1, 11:16pm  

https://thefederalist.com/2021/07/30/the-left-has-a-pedophilia-problem-and-its-out-in-the-open/

The Left Has A Pedophilia Problem, And It’s Out In The Open
The left is continuing its tradition of destroying society's sexual morality, now campaigning on multiple fronts for the normalization of pedophilia.
9   Patrick   @   2021 Nov 12, 8:38pm  

https://thepostmillennial.com/non-binary-professor-advocates-to-destigmatize-pedophiles-in-new-book


Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


Pedophilia is perhaps the most evil possible crime.
10   HeadSet   @   2021 Nov 12, 9:20pm  

Patrick says
Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


For Walker, "there is no morality or immorality attached to attraction to anyone because no one can control who they’re attracted to at all. In other words, it’s not who we’re attracted to that’s either okay or not, okay. It’s our behaviors and responding to that attraction that are either okay or not okay." Walker, who did clearly state that "child sexual abuse is never ever okay.

I do not think there is anything to disagree with here. Her point is very clear that no one should ever act on pedophilic feelings, even though is not their fault such feelings exist.
11   richwicks   @   2021 Nov 12, 9:26pm  

NuttBoxer says
Just a reminder, that the Franklin Coverup scandal revealed deep networks across politics, law enforcement(local and federal), and CPS that went back to the 50's. But the particular party most directly involved were the Republicans.

When it comes to pedophilia, they're all to blame.


Perhaps so, but there's some hope that the republican electorate would call that out and eliminate it.

Is there any hope with the democratic electorate?

I never imagined 20 years ago, I would be looking at the REPUBLICAN party for reform, but they are the first to try it. The left votes blue no matter who, even a Neocon warmonger pedophile that is openly accepting bribes through his son's "art". I sure as fuck didn't see that happening when I was 30.
12   FuckTheMainstreamMedia   @   2021 Nov 12, 10:00pm  

HeadSet says
Patrick says
Nov 12, 2021 8:35 AM EST
Non-binary professor advocates to destigmatize pedophiles in new book
In an interview with Prostasia's Noah Berlatsky, Old Dominion professor Allyn Walker justified feelings of pedophilia and the people who have them.


For Walker, "there is no morality or immorality attached to attraction to anyone because no one can control who they’re attracted to at all. In other words, it’s not who we’re attracted to that’s either okay or not, okay. It’s our behaviors and responding to that attraction that are either okay or not okay." Walker, who did clearly state that "child sexual abuse is never ever okay.

I do not think there is anything to disagree with here. Her point is very clear that no one should ever act on pedophilic feelings, even though is not their fault such feelings exist.


Except that it’s an untrue statement that we can’t control who we are attracted to. We absolutely can. We are not animals…we are capable of rational thought. And we certainly can steer our interests, attractions, etc in whatever direction we see fit.
13   richwicks   @   2021 Nov 12, 11:04pm  

Karloff says
They defend and cover for these sickos for as long as they can, until the lid is blown completely off.

Kevin Spacey
Jimmy Savile
James Gunn
Bryan Singer


James Gunn has been rehired by Dizzy.

Don't just boycott his film, boycott all Dizzy films, and if you really want to see them, pirate them.
14   TheAntiPanicanLearingCenter   @   2021 Nov 13, 5:12am  

There was a 60 minutes episode about the Franklin Coverup, but I think it was yanked at the last minute due to pressure from all kinds of Elite Sources.

I believe that eliminating both homosexual and pedophiliac tendencies is done to stop the ability of detractors from making the connection of:
"Of course so-and-so is an evil elitist, he's gay/pedo."

But yes, I've been saying this for a while, the Left in the 60s/70s pushed decriminalizing pedophilia and they started the push again around 2014-2016. It magically came to a halt around the time you-know-who came down the escalator.
15   🎂 WookieMan   @   2021 Nov 13, 6:32am  

richwicks says
pirate them.

I know you're smarter than I am in this realm of tech for pirating, but I'd tread lightly if you're a non-tech person. We'd offer free internet as a rental incentive (was priced in) and we had a few run ins with the law regarding pirated music and movies by the tenants. So they do go after people. Most of it generally is attorney's phishing for a quick payout/settlement. Most times the content producer say Disney or whoever don't even see a dime. One content provider did hire a legit firm though.
17   Ceffer   @   2021 Nov 14, 11:02pm  

LOL!
18   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2021 Nov 15, 9:56am  

richwicks says
Perhaps so, but there's some hope that the republican electorate would call that out and eliminate it.


Based on what? When faced with it in the 80's, they covered up, and sicked the FBI on anyone who didn't go along. They murdered a key witness, bullied one of the victims into recanting, and when the other victim refused, threw her in jail for contempt.

If the scamdemic has showed us anything it's that we need to be realistic about people actions. In this case, if you can't do that, you'll be apologizing for and supporting pedophilia, just so you can justify being a Republican?
19   fdhfoiehfeoi   @   2021 Nov 15, 9:57am  

CaptainHorsePaste says
There was a 60 minutes episode about the Franklin Coverup, but I think it was yanked at the last minute due to pressure from all kinds of Elite Sources.


PBS I believe, not as big as 60 Minutes. You can find the rough copy online. It's one that I permanently seed.

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