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mell says

Trump would have drawn a clear line in the sand that he'd carpet bomb the shit of the taliban if they tried any takeovers and oppression of peaceful folks. And that strategy works, less nation building, more deterrence.

After losing American lives and dollars for 20 years, you STILL cling to this Rambo fantasy? The Russians had the sense to leave Afghanistan sooner.

I can still hear my A-hole brother in law 21 years ago as the second Gulf War was kicking off, loudly dominating my Niece's first birthday party with braggadocio about how "This is going to be such a CAKE WALK!" That, and "We're going to go in there and KICK THEIR ASS AND TAKE THEIR GAS! 50c a gallon soon thanks Bush!" He went on to become a huge prepper, Obama hater, Trump fellater, and QAnon deep diver, rich AF from having inherited a factory founded 3 generations ago, always bragging about hitting a grand slam having started on third base.

Luckily my Brother and SIL had the sense to never bring the two branches of the family together ever again. At minimum the turkey would have ended up in his lap one Thanksgiving.

gabbar says

Osama was the problem; there was no reason to stay in Afghanistan even for a day after his dead body was dumped in the ocean.

If that actually happened.

Muslim Sea Burial is complete Bullshit. Vasco de Gama took Muslim pilots hostage, some of them died, their friends begged him to put onto an Island to bury their dead. Muslims are terrified of sea burials.

I personally think Osama died of his long fight with his kidneys around the time of the Afghanistan Invasion, and it was some imposter.

HunterTits says

Only if Biden were GOP would the media be screaming "Biden Lost Afghanistan" type headlines.

Yep. Just like no Democrat will ever admit Welfare King LBJ got us into Vietnam and Nixon was getting us out of it. They remember Operation Linebacker, but not Ia Drang.

Or that Welfare hasn't worked for 60 years. Or that Teachers are stupendously compensated in both salary and benefits, refuse and resist any measure of performance measurement, and are militantly opposed to any reform that doesn't involve even higher wages and benefits without a drop of accountability. Or that massive immigration waves result in stagnant wages and skyrocketing housing costs, particularly for the young and poor.

https://spectatorworld.com/topic/pentagon-rich-afghanistan-military-budget/

How the US military got rich from Afghanistan
From Korea onwards, falloffs in spending have lasted little longer than the parades for returning troops

July 19, 2021 | 5:51 pm

https://babylonbee.com/news/cnn-praises-taliban-for-wearing-masks-during-attack

https://nypost.com/2021/08/14/president-biden-will-own-the-fall-of-kabul-when-the-real-killing-begins/

For decades, Joe Biden has touted himself as a foreign policy genius. As a United States senator, he never had to make a decision or bear responsibility for running off at the mouth. As vice-president, he was given backwaters such as Ukraine that he reportedly turned into a family piggy bank.

But now he is president. He owns the utter disaster that Afghanistan has become; and the sudden about-face of the Pentagon to send 3,000 fully-armed combat troops back into the fray shows that even the woke military bosses Biden installed can wake up and smell the coffee.

Would Donald Trump have done this differently?

Remember that Trump fired Ambassador John Bolton as national security advisor when Bolton openly rebelled against Trump’s decision to negotiate a peace agreement with the Taliban.

Trump’s deal set a firm withdrawal date for U.S. combat troops — May 1, 2021.

gabbar says

Osama was the problem

Did you misspell Obama?

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/afghanistan-president-flees-country-as-taliban-enters-kabul_3949448.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Afghanistan President Flees Country as Taliban Enters Kabul
BY JACK PHILLIPS August 15, 2021

Afghanistan’s president, Ashraf Ghani, on Sunday fled the country as the Taliban terrorist group surrounded the capital, Kabul, according to a senior official, while the Taliban claimed hours later that it entered the presidential palace.

https://notthebee.com/article/are-you-a-media-professional-tired-of-your-drab-old-job-looking-for-a-change-of-scenery-enjoy-running-for-your-life-in-a-state-of-sheer-terror-does-the-us-embassy-in-kabul-have-a-job-for-you

I dangle the thought that Trump set Biden up on this one. It goes back to theory that Biden does not control the military. If Biden et alia did control the military, they would never have pursued the policy of withdrawal. The neocons and the oligarchs would have never countenanced a withdrawal. Withdrawal was embarrassingly imposed by the Trump era dictate that the withdrawal was already in place and was going to happen with or without toothless Biden.

Clearly, the US military 'occupation' was already in bed with the Taliban in a frenemy way on many levels, kind of like a controlled opposition alliance. The gross appearance of botch rather than plan is fucking up Biden's imperial fraud regime. Who knows if Trump and military set it up this way, since there was already the commitment to leave.

"Afghan President Flees, Biden Blames Trump For The Fall Of Afghanistan"

https://www.abovetopsecret.com/forum/thread1292755/pg1

Is this Biden essentially admitting in spluttering rage that he has never had control of the military? MSM Fake Media and Biden hopelessly struggle to make it appear that he has control? How could he possibly blame anything on Trump if he were in control. LOL! Fuck Biden!

I don't know that it's true, but I read on patriots.win that 1,000 US military are now surrounded by 20,000 pissed-off Taliban.

Joe is just setting a trap!

Biden is like an currupt retard version of Carter.

Automan Empire says

mell says

Trump would have drawn a clear line in the sand that he'd carpet bomb the shit of the taliban if they tried any takeovers and oppression of peaceful folks. And that strategy works, less nation building, more deterrence.

After losing American lives and dollars for 20 years, you STILL cling to this Rambo fantasy? The Russians had the sense to leave Afghanistan sooner.

I can still hear my A-hole brother in law 21 years ago as the second Gulf War was kicking off, loudly dominating my Niece's first birthday party with braggadocio about how "This is going to be such a CAKE WALK!" That, and "We're going to go in there and KICK THEIR ASS AND TAKE THEIR GAS! 50c a gallon soon thanks Bush!" He went on to become a huge prepper, Obama hater, Trump fellater, and QAnon deep diver, rich AF from having inherited a factory founded 3 generations ago, always bragging about hitting a grand ...

You completely misread the issue. This has nothing to do with Rambo fantasies. It has to do with the fact whether you consider yourself a decent human being if you're aware of blatant human rights violations. The reason we never had WW3 was because mutually assured destruction deterrence works. We're not here to nation build but most of the time you can tip the scale in favor of those who are oppressed without building your own nation, but just enough so that everyone respects each other and get along as much as possible. The Russians tried to nation build and failed, same for us, doesn't mean you don't have to be dick and not care about others. Maybe you don't step in if you're neighbor is being raped or otherwise brutalized, but it's a good thing that some do. Deterrence sans nation building and permanent ground troops works, Trump proved it.

Oh and I actually supported Gulf War one, simply because an ally of the US had clearly been attacked and if you don't honor contracts (doesn't matter whether we like the Kuweitis or not) you have the same lawlessness as that of the leftoid regime currently installed in the US. I don't like the Bushes, but Bush Sr. did what the US had to do, then pulled out. W pissed all over his Dads measured approach and started an illegitimate war.

LOL! Is this the mewling of a castrated cow of a President? How can he blame Trump for anything when he is supposed to be in charge of the military? Thank God and Trump. I always thought that if Biden had the military, their boots would already be on our necks to complete the KommieKunt destruction of our country.

"Then, the White House statement goes on to blame President Trump for the Taliban conquering the majority of the nation in only days.

“I inherited a deal cut by my predecessor,” the statement explains. “Shortly before he left office, he also drew U.S. Forces down to a bare minimum of 2,500.” Biden then suggested that he considered a plan to send more American troops to Afghanistan, which according to the White House, would have been to “ramp up our presence and send more American troops to fight once again”."

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/us-embassy-says-kabul-airport-under-taliban-fire-tells-americans-to-shelter-in-place_3949479.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

https://www.theepochtimes.com/mkt_breakingnews/taliban-seizes-presidential-palace-to-soon-declare-islamic-emirate-of-afghanistan_3949578.html?utm_source=patrick.net&utm_medium=patrick.net&utm_campaign=patrick.net

Ceffer says

"Afghan President Flees, Biden Blames Trump For The Fall Of Afghanistan"

Reminiscent of Obama blaming Bush for everything bad.

Patrick says

I don't know that it's true, but I read on patriots.win that 1,000 US military are now surrounded by 20,000 pissed-off Taliban.

20 bullets per marine.

Onvacation says

Patrick says

I don't know that it's true, but I read on patriots.win that 1,000 US military are now surrounded by 20,000 pissed-off Taliban.

20 bullets per marine.

If the marines had any fucking honor they would save those bullets for the motherfuckers that sent them to Afghanistan in the first place. Now those people are worth killing.

20 fucking years in Afghanistan, and for what? What was the fucking reason the mother fuckers in our intelligence traitor community put our military in there? Why? Why they FUCK have we been in fucking Afghanistan for 2 fucking decades? What was the goddamned mother fucking purpose? To make opium cheaper for the Sackler family? What?

Taliban in the Presidential Palace:


Patrick says

How the US military got rich from Afghanistan

And Corporations that got rich from both Iraq and Afghanistan. Haliburton making $20M on a 2-stall bathroom that electrocuted people the first time they plugged in an electric razor, built and installed by foreign non-US contractors, the whole bill to the US Taxpayer.

"Corporations are people with freedom of speech and thus can donate unlimited dark money sums"

Just like it's China-tied Companies pushing CRT, it was big contractors like Bechtel and Haliburton pushing everything from Haitian Aid to Iraq Occupation.

Now we have a police state that Google and Facebook love, the Authorities can check anybody's surfing and posting history and emails for a few hundred bucks a pop without a warrant.

The lesson of the past 30 years is that "Free" Markets with powerful players != Freedom. In fact, massive corporate power reduces freedom AND subverts Democracy.

Who pushed Free Markets solve everything? Establishment GOP for certain, but so did Libertarians.

"Nobody talks about a Trade Deficit with their Dentist" - Libertarian Canard.

"It's just the banks"

How many times was Auto and Airlines bailed out these past two decades? Two, Three times?

Imagine CRT or Neocons trying to push their BS without the backing of MIC, Big Tech, Big Contractors, etc. The shit would have never gotten into public discourse, and the few times it did would be laughed at like the guy who said he tripped and fell into Tamika's Vagina. China is proof you can have markets without Liberty, where powerful actors can possess your home and your organs harvested for practicing Christianity or traditional Chinese Religion, but you can pick from among 50 Fried Chicken restaurants.

Families and Personal Liberty before Markets.

The media will cover for Biden.

Of course we all know, Afghanistan was allowed to fall like this. So they can project the imagery onto the January 6th, stop the steal rally defendants being wrongfully railroaded into trumped up terror charges.

No Taliban ever called me a Cisheteroscum, White Toxic Male Oppressor.

Joe Biden gets it wrong every time on foreign policy, and many other issues. Everyone knew he couldn’t handle the pressure. Even Obama’s Secretary of Defense, Robert Gates, said as much. He ran out of Afghanistan instead of following the plan our Administration left for him — a plan that protected our people and our property, and ensured the Taliban would never dream of taking our Embassy or providing a base for new attacks against America. The withdrawal would be guided by facts on the ground. After I took out ISIS, I established a credible deterrent. That deterrent is now gone. The Taliban no longer has fear or respect for America, or America’s power. What a disgrace it will be when the Taliban raises their flag over America’s Embassy in Kabul. This is complete failure through weakness, incompetence, and total strategic incoherence.

https://www.dailywire.com/news/breaking-trump-demands-biden-resign-in-disgrace-from-office-for-5-reasons

Remember how under previous usernames I used to get a ton of dislikes when I’d say that the most basic function of government….perhaps the only function government should undertake….is the protection of its people and their property?

And I’d get shit on for saying that the Dumbocrats universally abdicate that responsibility?

I get that we probably should not have occupied Afghanistan after we took out Bin Laden. But that was done and President Trump tried to deal with it in the best way still available to him. Withdraw, but make it know that the US isn’t fucking around and if the shitheads cause chaos, we’re going to kill all of them. Much better than Biden’s stupidity.

McCain Junior.


Don't forget the Koch Brothers, who funded AEI and "Concerned Vets for America" which pushed neverending intervention during the Bush/Obama years.

These days, they're funding campaigns against Mandatory Minimums and are Pro-Soft on Crime Policies:
https://www.thedailybeast.com/koch-bros-to-bankroll-prison-reform
https://harvardlawreview.org/2016/03/keeping-track-surveillance-control-and-the-expansion-of-the-carceral-state/

American-ka 🇺🇸🦅🇵🇱
@american_ka
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Jack Posobiec tweeted that Biden went to sleep earlier than usual tonight, per WH official because he was confused by all the conflicting intel reports.

Houston, we have a problem!!!

https://twitter.com/american_ka/status/1427148069360050177#m

People trying to get on American jets so that they are not slaughtered by the Taliban:

https://twitter.com/american_ka/status/1427134540888293376#m

Couldn't grab the video for some reason.

I suppose it's possible that China saw their Biden asset as a fading star and decided to spend him down in one fell swoop before he was removed from office. "Go take a long vacation at Camp David while we pluck AFG and the Taliban as another jewel in our crown."

With all of our friendly engineers discovering those vast reserves of strategic metals in AFG, the Globalist Opium Warrior Occupiers and neocons would never have let AFG go.

I seriously doubt however that AFG will succumb to the usual 'economic hit man' tactics that China has used elsewhere, and if they try to occupy, they won't have much better luck, especially since they have been so aggressive at euthanizing Muslims in China.

Nick Adams
@NickAdamsinUSA
7h
BREAKING:

Biden’s Secretary of State, Tony Blinken, informs the Taliban that they cannot enter US Embassy in Kabul, unless they are fully vaccinated.