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Always use cash from now on, not credit cards


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2021 Sep 4, 4:36pm   41,940 views  345 comments

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Drove to a restaurant today with my wife and was first of all creeped out to find that they knew my name from my phone number, which I had to give to get on the wait list. They said they use a centralized database of many restaurants for that.

They have a window where you can order a beer while you are waiting. So I ordered a beer and they refused to take cash.

OK, I wanted the beer, so I paid with a credit card. Then the total had an extra $1.50 on it. I asked about that and was told that I added a tip. I specifically did not add a tip because I was pissed that they don't take cash.

I got the manager and made him remove the tip.

We are rapidly approaching the CCP utopia of complete tracking of all citizens at all times.

Lesson: call ahead and make sure a restaurant will take cash. If they will not, don't go there.

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30   RWSGFY   2021 Sep 5, 8:55am  

RC2006 says
If we are talking resteraunts in bay area can't you just walk out without paying? Paying for food in bay area sounds so pre 2010s.


Yes! Keep it under $950 p/p and you're GTG.
31   Patrick   2021 Sep 5, 9:48am  

This particular place wouldn't let you order without paying by credit card from you table first.

No waitresses either, only a QR code to get the menu, and then you have to put in your credit card.

I won't go back.

Booger says
Greek restaurant around here is cash only.


My wife points out two reasons why small family-run places love cash:

1. They don't worry about being ripped off by the staff, because the staff is family.
2. They don't want to pay the credit card vig of 1.5% or whatever.

But there is a third one of course. It's much harder for the IRS to know how much money a cash business really made. And that's fine with me.
32   Onvacation   2021 Sep 5, 10:41am  

Patrick says
It's much harder for the IRS to know how much money a cash business really made. And that's fine with me.

It's a plus for me!
33   Patrick   2021 Sep 5, 10:45am  

gabbar says
We don't fill up our automobiles with unknown octane gas, why do we fill up stomach with unknown quality food served by a business whose goal is to maximize profit


@gabbar Yes, that's another good point.

You have much more control over the food when it's your own picnic, assuming the ingredient lists on what you buy are accurate.
34   mell   2021 Sep 5, 10:49am  

Patrick says
This particular place wouldn't let you order without paying by credit card from you table first.

No waitresses either, only a QR code to get the menu, and then you have to put in your credit card.

I won't go back.

Booger says
Greek restaurant around here is cash only.


My wife points out two reasons why small family-run places love cash:

1. They don't worry about being ripped off by the staff, because the staff is family.
2. They don't want to pay the credit card vig of 1.5% or whatever.

But there is a third one of course. It's much harder for the IRS to know how much money a cash business really made. And that's fine with me.


Many places in the bay area, esp. Asian family places in SF only take cash. Though with with plamdemic many may have been forced to change that as they switched to delivery since people usually don't pay cash for (online) delivery. All part of the plan.
35   NuttBoxer   2021 Sep 5, 11:31am  

richwicks says
@NuttBoxer - In order to get the card, you had to disclose your address and your phone number in order to activate it.


The cards I've used for the past two years have required a phone number and address for online use, yes. The vanilla ones don't even require that, you just fill out a phone number and billing address on the merchant site during checkout.

If you are getting a gift card to use around town, well, when the last time you were required to register a gift card someone gave you..?
36   AmericanKulak   2021 Sep 5, 11:32am  

Go to 7/11 or Home Depot and ask an unbanked person to help you set up a prepaid card.

Then go to one of those Loan/Cash Centers, refill that card with cash, and put on your best Slavic Accent "Me no understand, Dy Rect Depozite. I get pay'yd ze cash for dry vall installayshion. I give ze cash to yyou, nyo? I haff no ID, zorry."
37   gabbar   2021 Sep 5, 1:22pm  

Patrick says
gabbar says
We don't fill up our automobiles with unknown octane gas, why do we fill up stomach with unknown quality food served by a business whose goal is to maximize profit


@gabbar Yes, that's another good point.

You have much more control over the food when it's your own picnic, assuming the ingredient lists on what you buy are accurate.


Every time you take a bite of food, consider that you are programming your biology for health or disease. When you eat healthy food, you are, in fact, eating medicine. ― Mark Hyman, The Pegan Diet: 21 Practical Principles for Reclaiming Your Health in a Nutritionally Confusing World
39   NDrLoR   2021 Sep 17, 2:33pm  

gabbar says
eat healthy food
healthful
40   NDrLoR   2021 Sep 17, 2:35pm  

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says
Go to 7/11
I've been going to their generic equivalent and eating an ice cream sandwich every day! I always loved those.
41   Patrick   2021 Oct 2, 5:22pm  

https://alexberenson.substack.com/p/riddle-me-this/comments

Yorkshire Bruce
3 hr ago
Bring it back to the community. House parties, dinner clubs, garden parties, street parties... neighborhood sports leagues, local bands playing private but open to locals venues, doesn't sound so bad.

74Reply

Em3 hr ago
I think in many ways we will be the ones who win thanks to a thriving underground culture.
44   RWSGFY   2022 Jan 31, 6:57pm  

EBGuy says
Say what you will about Ess Eff...
SFPD Chief: Restaurants and Cafes That Refuse to Accept Cash Are Breaking the Law


People still pay for their meals in SF? I mean, it's not easy to go over $950 (unless dining in Gayin's favorite French Laundry), mkay?
49   Patrick   2022 Mar 15, 7:53pm  

https://markcrispinmiller.substack.com/p/the-cashless-life-wont-be-worth-living?s=r&source=patrick.net


The cashless life won't be worth living
While we're all over-focused on "Ukraine," our overlords are moving quietly, and swiftly, to take ALL cash away, in favor of a global social credit system. We can't let them get away with it. ...

One way to start fighting this development is to go back to using cash instead of cards as much as possible—starting with #CashFriday, as urged by Catherine Austin Fitts. This means that, every Friday, we use only cash to buy what we may need: https://home.solari.com/cash-friday/.

Think about what this development portends: No cash will mean no autonomy, as every purchase that you’ll want to make must be approved on high—approval that will be contingent on your social credit score.



50   Patrick   2022 Mar 16, 7:51pm  

https://reclaimthenet.org/physical-music-sales-just-increased-for-the-first-time-since-1996/?source=patrick.net


In the “brave new world” scenario speculated on by the World Economic Forum (WEF), people could soon enough – by 2030 – “own nothing and be happy.”

Well, perhaps not so fast, because the issue of ownership and questions around it – over anything from computer games, to health choices – are getting ever more relevant, rather than fading into obscurity.

One indicator that may or may not fit into that is the curious fact that CDs are making something of a comeback after it seemed they were virtually dead and buried with the music and movie industry shifting resolutely to streaming, and the consumers embracing that shift.

Streaming certainly remains far superior in terms of adoption and revenue over any sales and use of physical media, thanks to costs and, above all, convenience – but there may come a time when streaming will hit a plateau, in a world where trust is in ever-higher demand and shorter supply. For some – not many, but many more than in previous years – having their music in their physical possession instead of at the mercy of streaming services is clearly a better proposition.


Very much like the case with money. Having it in your physical possession is clearly a better proposition than letting your access to it go away at the whim of a bank or the government.
51   Onvacation   2022 Mar 16, 8:56pm  

Patrick says
The cashless life won't be worth living

There will NEVER be a time when you can't get a couple tacos with a roll of nickels.
52   komputodo   2022 Mar 16, 9:15pm  

2. lesson of the day...Quit going to restaurants and find something else to do with your time instead of eating and shopping.
53   Patrick   2022 Mar 16, 9:45pm  

I agree, I don't enjoy restaurants much anymore, especially after so many of them proved to be willing accomplices to the Wuhan Virus lockdowns and masking, which accomplished nothing but harm.
54   NuttBoxer   2022 Mar 16, 10:31pm  

Since I've been working from home we only eat twice a day. With the changes we've made to eat healthier, most restaurants have lost their appeal. We get a weekly produce delivery from local farmers we struggle to consume, plus meat from a another farmer. There aren't enough good restaurants, they're too far away as we live in the country, and we have our own food to keep up on for the few meals we consume.

Honestly, my biggest motivation to eat out is supporting small business.
55   Shaman   2022 Mar 17, 4:47am  

komputodo says
2. lesson of the day...Quit going to restaurants and find something else to do with your time instead of eating and shopping.


That’s a very easy thing for men to commit to. Women though…
56   Patrick   2022 Mar 18, 10:30am  

https://t.me/greatreject/32424?source=patrick.net


Cash is no longer accepted at Walmart on Saturdays, slowly the "cashless" society is being normalized...

Another conspiracy theory coming true.
57   Onvacation   2022 Mar 18, 10:53am  

Don't go to Walmart.
58   Patrick   2022 Jun 2, 9:10am  

https://gettr.com/post/p1calc51823


Arnie1974
@Arnie1974

Imagine a world without cash?

A cashless society…

I know it’s hard, but I would recommend to strictly use cash only. Stop swiping your bank cards…


Has video from Catherine Austin Fitts
59   Patrick   2022 Jul 1, 8:10pm  

https://rescue.substack.com/p/stop-digital-dictators-with-cashfriday


Stop Digital Dictators with #CashFriday and #CashEveryDay
When we use a credit card, we feed the beastly plan to cancel cash and control us with Central Bank Digital Currency. Instead, use cash, the slingshot capable of downing the globalist Goliath.




My palms were sweating two weeks ago when I took possession of several hundred dollars and put them into my wallet and into my purse, determined to make perhaps the most important political statement of our time. Later in the day, I still felt a little out of practice when the bill at the veterinarians office came to $82.

I pulled four twenty-dollar bills and two one-dollar bills out of my wallet and paid up entirely in good old American cash. It felt much more real and more serious handing over that cash than when I pulled out a shiny plastic credit card to have the bill charged.

It also felt good to make a financial and political statement, “You can’t control me!” that will bring down the walls of globalism if enough of us do it.

It’s time to join us in the CashFriday and CashEveryDay movement, a brilliantly simple crusade to stop the globalists’ plan to create a global digital currency with Chinese Communist Party-style surveillance and control imposed on everyone by governments and oligarchs.
60   1337irr   2022 Jul 1, 8:29pm  

I would argue this is mostly pointless unless you are willing to start your own country to make another currency or run for office.
61   Patrick   2022 Jul 1, 8:31pm  

Using cash definitely reduces the ability of the global oligarchs to track everyone, so it seems worthwhile to me.
63   1337irr   2022 Jul 14, 4:47am  

Alright, I'll start paying my mortgage in pennies :)
64   WookieMan   2022 Jul 14, 5:28am  

CC's are cash if you're paying them off monthly essentially and they can pay you back bigly. Plus fraud protection. Haven't paid for a flight in almost 5 years now. I've probably done 30 trips, most with a family of 5. Also no international fees and exchange rate bullshit foreigners play with travelers on purchases if you have the right card. Though we still bring cash traveling.

I understand privacy concerns, but you just flew to Europe Patrick. Passport. You're already being tracked in so many ways. I presume you drive and register a car? Tracked. Not sure if Amber alerts are national, but almost all of those kidnappings get solved in 24-48 hours. Tracking. Those cameras in cities and big suburbs at intersections. Tracking. Hell, running this website allows you to be tracked. It's impossible to not be tracked in some way, shape, or form. 100% I tracked people down for real estate leads for my boss and it's easy as can be.

I don't like the tip added thing though. I've always thought that was bullshit. I get there are cheap people out there, but servers and bartenders could always get a different career. Also some cultures don't believe in tipping.

My wife served and bartended in our college years. It can be lucrative, but also a thankless industry. Blacks are hands down the worst tippers. They'd flock in on Tuesdays for wing night and tip 25¢ for a $20 order. Just leave a quarter on the table. Hell it may have been on accident most the time. Very needy too. It sounds racist, but it's not and is true almost everywhere we go and talk to servers.

Also, on comment 62, Canadians are great people. They're also morons. The only reason they're not a 2nd or 3 world country is because we're neighbors. Most of Canada is basically shitty Russia and frozen 10 months of the year.
65   FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden   2022 Jul 14, 7:21am  

yeah ran into that before in CA once, when didn’t have a card. some weird post covid shit where touching money kills grandma was the reason. but after asking manager they took cash.
66   1337irr   2022 Jul 14, 8:55am  

WookieMan says

CC's are cash if you're paying them off monthly essentially and they can pay you back bigly. Plus fraud protection. Haven't paid for a flight in almost 5 years now. I've probably done 30 trips, most with a family of 5. Also no international fees and exchange rate bullshit foreigners play with travelers on purchases if you have the right card. Though we still bring cash traveling.

I understand privacy concerns, but you just flew to Europe Patrick. Passport. You're already being tracked in so many ways. I presume you drive and register a car? Tracked. Not sure if Amber alerts are national, but almost all of those kidnappings get solved in 24-48 hours. Tracking. Those cameras in cities and big suburbs at intersections. Tracking. Hell, running this website allows you to be tracked. It's impossible to not be tracked in some way, shape, or form. 100% I tracked people down for real estate leads for my boss and it's easy as can be.

I don't like the tip added th...

I remember foreigner tourists being the worst because some countries don't do tipping.
67   NuttBoxer   2022 Jul 14, 9:11am  

1337irr says

I would argue this is mostly pointless unless you are willing to start your own country to make another currency or run for office.


It's not best as Federal Reserve notes do still have tracking capability, and are still worthless paper, but it's way better than giving away your privacy every time you make a purchase.

It's about privacy, and privacy is about freedom.
68   WookieMan   2022 Jul 14, 12:27pm  

FortwayeAsFuckJoeBiden says

yeah ran into that before in CA once, when didn’t have a card. some weird post covid shit where touching money kills grandma was the reason. but after asking manager they took cash.

With regards to covid there's no difference between a card and cash. You have to touch something either way. That would make no sense. They should wipe down the CC machine anyway a couple times a day. Coins are the grossest. It's a top 3 reason I don't use cash often. I'd guess I've lost close to a grand in coins falling out of the pocket or wherever. Cash is gross too. I've swamp assed thousands of dollars.
69   WookieMan   2022 Jul 14, 12:35pm  

1337irr says

I remember foreigner tourists being the worst because some countries don't do tipping.

The British don't tip. Tourist areas in Mexico are weird. The Mexicans will always be polite, but they expect tipping. Once you get flagged as a non-tipper your service slows to a crawl and they take care of the people that tip. This is for an all inclusive scenario. If you tip enough I wouldn't be surprised if they meet you in the bathrooms and wipe your ass.

Had a broken heel when we went to Mexico. Tipped the chick at check in $5 at the club bar. Next morning I stop in for mimosas and she brings them back to the room for me. Tipped her $10 as it wasn't necessary. She'd then see me walk by and just bring a mimosa to me every morning.

Have only been to about half the Caribbean islands (countries), but tipping there doesn't move the service. They're just lazy, but nice people. Island time mon. Tipping deserves its own thread at some point. Interest to hear Patrick's situation over there going out and stuff.

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