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Always use cash from now on, not credit cards


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2021 Sep 4, 4:36pm   61,856 views  415 comments

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Drove to a restaurant today with my wife and was first of all creeped out to find that they knew my name from my phone number, which I had to give to get on the wait list. They said they use a centralized database of many restaurants for that.

They have a window where you can order a beer while you are waiting. So I ordered a beer and they refused to take cash.

OK, I wanted the beer, so I paid with a credit card. Then the total had an extra $1.50 on it. I asked about that and was told that I added a tip. I specifically did not add a tip because I was pissed that they don't take cash.

I got the manager and made him remove the tip.

We are rapidly approaching the CCP utopia of complete tracking of all citizens at all times.

Lesson: call ahead and make sure a restaurant will take cash. If they will not, don't go there.

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311   stereotomy   2023 Sep 11, 7:04pm  

Fuck this bullshit. On every single fucking FR note on the lower left hand side on the front is:

THIS NOTE IS LEGAL TENDER FOR ALL DEBTS, PUBLIC AND PRIVATE.

You fucking woo-q-tards should just shut up about this.

The time to worry is when all currency is recalled and the new shit doesn't have that phrase - that's how it's all been done before.

I'm seeing plenty of mom & pop joints offering around 5% discount for CASH MONEY.

@Patrick - can we call out this woo bullshit?
312   PeopleUnited   2023 Sep 11, 7:09pm  

NuttBoxer says

Starlink is funded by DoD, so that's bullshit right out of the gate.

On the necessity of a worldwide system, I don't see it at all. If they're able to herd even 95% of the population into large cities(definitely the plan), why give a shit about the rest? They won't. At least not until they have achieved their vision for a slave world with the majority.

They might get 95% of the survivors herded in cities “for their safety “ but the amount of dead prior to that will exceed the number of survivors by a significant margin. Their goal is not to simply control everything, but also to eliminate the majority of people.
313   Patrick   2023 Sep 11, 7:24pm  

PeopleUnited says


Their goal is not to simply control everything, but also to eliminate the majority of people.


I think this is true.

Billionaires have been talking for years now about the need to eliminate the majority of humanity to make more room for themselves save the planet.
314   Patrick   2023 Sep 11, 7:28pm  

stereotomy says


The time to worry is when all currency is recalled and the new shit doesn't have that phrase - that's how it's all been done before.


I agree that the present currency can be used for all debts but that doesn't mean that a merchant has to let you incur a debt to begin with

I've been to about a dozen restaurants and cafes now which simply refuse to even let you place an order without a credit card. That seems like a serious step toward eliminating cash. I always leave and tell them why.
315   stereotomy   2023 Sep 11, 7:38pm  

Patrick says


stereotomy says


The time to worry is when all currency is recalled and the new shit doesn't have that phrase - that's how it's all been done before.


I agree that the present currency can be used for all debts but that doesn't mean that a merchant has to let you incur a debt to begin with

I've been to about a dozen restaurants and cafes now which simply refuse to even let you place an order without a credit card. That seems like a serious step toward eliminating cash. I always leave and tell them why.


That must be a Californication thing. Here in flyover country (even though it's in the PRNY) I keep seeing more discounts for cash payment.

But yeah - they don't want cash - fuck them. You're probably too courteous in that you ask before you're served. I'd wait till the end to have that argument, then call 911 and show the cops the cash notes. It should be hilarious.

EDIT: Maybe that's where you guys should have the next PatNet meetup. Fuck the joint up with cash payment. Post a pic of you being frog marched for trying to pay cash at a globohomo WEF joint.
316   Patrick   2023 Sep 11, 7:44pm  

stereotomy says

You're probably too courteous in that you ask before you're served.


It's worse than that around here. Those places won't even let me order until I give a credit card.
317   HeadSet   2023 Sep 11, 7:50pm  

Patrick says

Those places won't even let me order until I give a credit card.

Is that because the restaurant had too many walk away without paying customers?
318   stereotomy   2023 Sep 11, 7:58pm  

HeadSet says

Patrick says


Those places won't even let me order until I give a credit card.

Is that because the restaurant had too many walk away without paying customers?

That's probably it. Anywhere other than Libtardia, they'll fuck you up if you try to ditch payment. Maybe if you promise to order more than $950 they'll seat you?
319   Patrick   2023 Sep 11, 7:59pm  

I bet it's to stop just what @stereotomy describes, where someone orders and then demands to pay in cash after getting his food or coffee. They can't legally refuse that payment in cash. They can only stop you from ordering to begin with if you don't have a credit card.
320   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Sep 11, 9:22pm  

stereotomy says

The time to worry is when all currency is recalled and the new shit doesn't have that phrase - that's how it's all been done before.

I'm seeing plenty of mom & pop joints offering around 5% discount for CASH MONEY.


New shit like plastic cards with your name and a barcode on it. But the barcode wasn't enough, so they added a tap chip, almost like they want you to get used to paying with barcodes and taps.. But having to take that card out, TOO MUCH TROUBLE! Just put it right in my hand mr banker!
321   Patrick   2023 Sep 18, 1:36pm  

https://slaynews.com/news/republicans-move-block-biden-rolling-out-digital-cash-across-america/


Republicans are moving to block Democrat President Joe Biden and his administration from rolling out a “digital dollar” to replace physical cash across America.

The Biden admin has been working on implementing a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC).

The centralized digital currencies are designed to replace traditional cash but are engineered to have in-built control mechanisms.

The plan has been heavily pushed by unelected globalist organizations, including the World Economic Forum (WEF), the United Nations (UN), and the International Monetary Fund (IMF).

A key part of the CBDC agenda is to create so-called “cashless societies” that would governments and bureaucratic agencies greater control over the general public.

As architects of the plan have gloated, CBDCs allow for individuals’ spending to be tracked, monitored, and controlled.

Those whose spending habits indicate that they have a large “carbon footprint,” for example, could be punished.

In a more extreme example, those found to engage in “hate speech,” i.e. “misgendering” someone on social media, could have their funds restricted, denying their ability to buy food in their “cashless society.”

As one WEF speaker recently boasted, CBDCs could be used to control what people can buy by placing blocks on “less desirable items” such as “ammunition” and guns.

Led by House Majority Whip Tom Emmer (R-MN), the Central Bank Digital Currency Anti-Surveillance State Act has resurfaced.

The bill seeks to stop the Federal Reserve’s exploration of a digital version of the dollar.

As Slay News reported, in March, Biden ordered Fed Chair Jerome Powell to advance plans for a CBDC, a move that could significantly influence monetary policies.
323   richwicks   2023 Sep 21, 8:11pm  

stereotomy says

But yeah - they don't want cash - fuck them. You're probably too courteous in that you ask before you're served. I'd wait till the end to have that argument, then call 911 and show the cops the cash notes. It should be hilarious.


I went to a random place to get a coffee. I ordered first then they told me they didn't accept cash. I told them "well, I only have cash - you should cancel my order", I still got my coffee, I offered to pay for it, even told them "I will never return to this place", still got the coffee.

The employees know this is bullshit.

And I've never returned, and never will.
324   Patrick   2023 Sep 21, 8:22pm  

I think you should return and order, and just have cash on you. Over and over.

Please email me the name of that cafe. Maybe I'll do it.
325   richwicks   2023 Sep 21, 8:31pm  

Patrick says


I think you should return and order, and just have cash on you. Over and over.

Please email me the name of that cafe. Maybe I'll do it.


https://maps.app.goo.gl/6yGLnru69Gjr9dTPA

Philz Coffee. That's the place.

I'm also annoyed by places that FORCE you to use a computer to order through a 3rd party and won't let you just call them up. There's a great Indo-Chinese place I used to get food from all the time, but they started doing this, now I only get food from them rarely. They accept cash (even give a discount for it), but I can't order with cash.
326   Patrick   2023 Sep 21, 8:35pm  

@richwicks I literally cannot open that link without doing a ton of work, because I have multiple layers of blocking of all Google domains on my computers.

Could you just email me the name? Sorry for the trouble.

I agree about not patronizing places that won't answer the phone.
327   richwicks   2023 Sep 21, 8:42pm  

Patrick says

I literally cannot open that link without doing a ton of work, because I have multiple layers of blocking of all Google domains on my computers.

Could you just email me the name? Sorry for the trouble.

I agree about not patronizing places that won't answer the phone.


@Patrick

Philz Coffee
125 S Frances St,
Sunnyvale, CA 94086

You can open it with TOR with Brave. The TOR connection bypasses everything on your computer, including DNS. I assume you have /etc/hosts (or the equivalent under APPLE - ugh) setup. I have Facebook and Twitter blocked on my machine, on the RARE occasion I want to see anything on those sites, I use TOR and I have several virtual machines as well which don't access my /etc/hosts file.
328   Patrick   2023 Sep 21, 8:44pm  

I tried with Brave's TOR gateway, but it hanged for about a minute, so I gave up.

I block all Google domains with /etc/hosts and Little Snitch, and some other firewall thing I set up so long ago I can't remember how it works.
329   richwicks   2023 Sep 21, 8:54pm  

Patrick says


I tried with Brave's TOR gateway, but it hanged for about a minute, so I gave up.


I did as well. What I just discovered is you have to open up the TOR connection FIRST, then copy and paste the URL. It's a bug in Brave, apparently.

Patrick says


I block all Google domains with /etc/hosts and Little Snitch, and some other firewall thing I set up so long ago I can't remember how it works.


Eventually you need to upgrade.

I run Linux and the last disaster on my computer required me to reboot based off from a USB drive to unscramble my root partition disk (I have a swappable root drive disk), and I was shocked to find out that all the OSes I had on my flash drives were out of date and programs to check the drive wouldn't run, I couldn't visit MOST websites, because the certificate had expired, and I spent hours trying to find a site, so I could download a new OS, that so I could burn a new USB, so I could boot off from that, to just do an fsck on my root drive.

Now I keep a flash drive that I update about once a year. I'm kind of abusing my system, in that my root drive is now ancient, like 7 years old, and well beyond its expected life expectancy. My power supply is near failure as well. Always buy Seagate. As long as the motherboard configuration doesn't change though, this is my final case.

FSCK works pretty well now. Before, it was a cry in the sky to please fix the system, now it's nearly 100%. It has VASTLY improved in the last 20 years. Basically, my system wouldn't reboot because I had a bunch of scrambled files on /tmp, and who cares about that? The partition is wiped on bootup anyhow. Sometimes the level of paranoia and safety of Linux is a detriment.

When your machine becomes "unusable", I highly suggest just installing Linux on it. I run KDE Neon, also known as Kubuntu. Get a version that is "LTS" - Long Term Support. If you don't, you're a beta tester. My OS is probably at least 5 years old now. I'm getting to the point I need to reinstall...
330   fdhfoiehfeoi   2023 Sep 22, 6:55am  

Heard the Vegas casino hacks are more widespread than they're letting on. A lot of the functions of the Casinos are inoperable due to pushing everything to SW, and no manual backups. But we should totally embrace a fully digital society because not being able to do anything is SO fucking convenient!
334   stereotomy   2023 Oct 5, 2:09pm  

A pizza joint across the street from where I work has a sign on the register "Non-cash transactions are subject to a 4% surcharge." I'm the only one paying cash; everyone else - zoomers, welfare queens, libtards - they don't care and will eat the 4%.

The Northeast is fucked, as well as both left coasts. That's why I rent, so I can get the fuck out in a hurry when things go sideways.
335   Patrick   2023 Oct 5, 2:11pm  

Yes, I've always been a fan of the mobility that renting affords.
336   Patrick   2023 Oct 11, 12:20pm  




https://www.cashisfreedom.uk/


JOIN OUR CAMPAIGN AGAINST A PROGRAMMABLE DIGITAL CURRENCY

We're raising public awareness about the UK Government's plan to bring in a Central Bank Digital Currency (CBDC), and get rid of cash eventually.
Find out how you can stop it and help the campaign.
337   WookieMan   2023 Oct 11, 2:10pm  

Patrick says


Yes, I've always been a fan of the mobility that renting affords.

The landlord says the same and then you're fucked and forced to move when they sell. Happened to me. Never again. Worked out, but I'm not at the mercy of another man (or woman) decision to take a house out from under me. And yes, I get property taxes, but if your landlord doesn't pay those you're in the same boat even if you've been paying rent. I'd rather have control.
338   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 11, 8:35am  

What about when the government decides to take your property for reason xyz? What about when you lose your job and can no longer afford your mortgage? What about when government requires you to install metering on your own well, and starts charging you for the water? What about when you're on a fixed retirement income, and property taxes are raised higher than you can afford?

Property rights are a joke in this country, control is an illusion...
339   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Feb 11, 8:37am  

BTW, was in the same situation, had rented for over four years when owners decided to sell. We were given priority if we wanted to buy, and plenty of notice. Had no problem finding another place to rent that checked every box. And this is in SoCal, a place with a supposed "housing shortage"...
340   Patrick   2024 Mar 11, 10:47am  

https://www.coffeeandcovid.com/p/cash-king-monday-march-11-2024-c


Sweden and Norway are getting the right idea. Bloomberg ran a story Friday headlined, “Norway Wants to Strengthen Consumers’ Right to Pay Cash.”

It seems weird to say this, and it’s a sign of how far we’ve come, but Norway is considering new regulations to force vendors to accept cash along with other types of payment. The article also mentioned that Sweden is considering similar rules.

The weird thing is that cash even needs protection. Cash used to be “king.” But nowadays cash looks less like a king and more like a crested snapping turtle or some other odd-looking endangered animal, or maybe like whatever is going on with the British Royal Family. Cash is King ... Charles.
341   WookieMan   2024 Mar 11, 10:58am  

I have been using physical cash more recently, but I'm still not a fan of carrying much on my person or in the bank. Basic savings account that isn't accessible via a card. Good interest rates for a savings account. The rest is invested. I have no interest in having cash sitting around and keep the checking account low on purpose.

I'll take the points and free airfare for at least the last 5 years. Tax free. And the fraud protection. It's kind of a no brainer. I haven't been to a cash only place since my college years. And that was a mafia restaurant, Tufanos by UIC (Chicago). And yes, the mafia still exists in Chicago.
342   Patrick   2024 Mar 11, 11:42am  

Some of the burrito places around me take only cash, for obvious reasons.
344   fdhfoiehfeoi   2024 Mar 12, 7:08am  

WookieMan says

I have no interest in having cash sitting around and keep the checking account low on purpose.


That's fine until your banks commercial RE portfolio blows up(coming to a bank near you).
347   WookieMan   2024 Apr 6, 10:02am  

Patrick says





I get your take/meme, but QR codes are harmless. Yes I prefer a physical menu. if it's just me. That said I'm a minimalist at heart and can't stand fucking 6 page menus on the table for 5 of us. I assume it's just two of you when you go out to eat generally. With kids it's like a fucking bomb went off on the table before we even get our food or drinks. Constantly moving shit around to have a landing zone for drinks and apps.

Covid changes for a lot of things were gay, but I honestly don't mind using my phone to look at a menu if it's designed well for a phone. Also saves money for the business owner since an app/site is substantially cheaper than printing menus that need constant replacement and/or the menu changes. I'm no greenie gay, but it is better for the environment and business.
348   Patrick   2024 Apr 6, 10:54am  

What bothers me is that it then forces people to carry a personal tracking device, even just to eat out.
349   WookieMan   2024 Apr 6, 11:29am  

Patrick says


What bothers me is that it then forces people to carry a personal tracking device, even just to eat out.

I get it. I just have given up at this point. I've been using computers and the internet since I was 7(ish) about '90-'91. I'm compromised at this point, don't do anything illegal and all my financial shit is locked down as an adult. Basically all my info is already out there. So I just fuck with data and algorithms.

Google has no clue what to do with me. I love Manatees, Donkeys and Eagles, listen to jam bands, cooking channels, aviation, porn and a whole bunch of other stuff. That's the tip of the iceberg. I understand people and privacy, but it's literally impossible at this point to be hidden. Secure the important stuff and then have some fun.

I lock my wifi with a password, but I'll change the name of it. One neighbor pissed me off bigly. He'd idle his Harley at 6am for 20 minutes every day during open window time of year. Changed my main wifi to "motorcycle micro penis" as the network name. I know he saw it because he came over to my house and tried fixing the situation. So the fucker started walking his bike down the street before turning it on. No voices raised. No physical concern with fighting. Trolling can work.

My wife was pissed as can be. But it fixed a situation that pissed both of us off. Wifi network names are fun and easy if you have a shitty neighbor. Undoubtably a friend will come over and ask for the wifi and see your home network even if 2-3 houses down the block.

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