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My HR Rep Just Told Me Vaccines Aren't Medicine
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2021 Sep 8, 12:29pm 8,891 views 75 comments
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porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 18, 2:37pm
porkchopXpress
2021 Oct 18, 2:37pm
This is why I switched to a fully remote gig. They have a harder time justifying mandates and OSHA can’t force it either when you’re not in an office
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Oct 18, 2:50pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2021 Oct 18, 2:50pm
Booger says
I talked about this before. I won't wear them anymore, ever. It's degrading, and there's no job worth degrading myself as a human being for. Fortunately I'm several states away, so no chance I'll be coming in anytime soon. And as I know masks don't protect me, if I was asked to come in masked up, I'd refuse citing personal safety concerns.
Those disposable masks aren't too bad once you have removed the filter.
I talked about this before. I won't wear them anymore, ever. It's degrading, and there's no job worth degrading myself as a human being for. Fortunately I'm several states away, so no chance I'll be coming in anytime soon. And as I know masks don't protect me, if I was asked to come in masked up, I'd refuse citing personal safety concerns.
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Bd6r
2021 Oct 18, 3:13pm
Bd6r
2021 Oct 18, 3:13pm
NuttBoxer says
Exactly - mask mandates are degrading, as in you fucking serfs wear a mask while we, the ruling class, will do what we please.
talked about this before. I won't wear them anymore, ever. It's degrading, and there's no job worth degrading myself as a human being for. Fortunately I'm several states away, so no chance I'll be coming in anytime soon. And as I know masks don't protect me, if I was asked to come in masked up, I'd refuse citing personal safety concerns.
Exactly - mask mandates are degrading, as in you fucking serfs wear a mask while we, the ruling class, will do what we please.
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fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Jan 18, 8:56pm
fdhfoiehfeoi
2023 Jan 18, 8:56pm
So the state clawed back my unemployment saying I was fired for not complying with lawful directions. I appealed, and just got the paperwork on my claim today. It includes everything, even that the state received info from my former employer contesting my unemployment. In direct violation of my severance agreement with them. Contacted a lawyer, will see where this goes as I now have documented proof of severance violation from the state of California.
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"Hi Nuttboxer,
I hope you're having a great week so far! I still have not received a check-in from you regarding your COVID-19 Vaccination status. Would I be able to schedule a meeting with you this week to verify your status? Let me know what day works best for you!
NuttBoxer 10:51 AM
Hi Catbert,
I don't feel comfortable disclosing personal medical information.
Catbert 11:11 AM
Hi Nuttboxer. We don't need your medical record, we just some verification that you are vaccinated. The myvaccinerecord or the Clear app only displays whether you are vaccinated or not, it does not disclose any medical information.
Nuttboxer 11:12 AM
I'm confused, I thought a vaccination was a medical treatment for a specific disease?
Catbert 11:23 AM
Vaccines are used to prepare the body's immune system to fight infections that are in the body. Treatments are more along the lines classified as a way to help someone that is already been sick with a virus or infection.
Nuttboxer 11:24 AM
Sorry, you're right I used the wrong term. But you're saying a vaccine is not medicine? (edited)
11:26
I'm just really unclear on how vaccine status does not constitute sharing personal medical information. It's administered by a medical professional, in a medical location, for prevention of disease.
Catbert 11:26 AM
I dont think so because usually, medicine is given to a patient who is already ill or experiencing symptoms. Medicine would be considered as a form of treatment
Nuttboxer 11:27 AM
So anything preventative is not medical?
11:28
What about pap smears? Or blood tests to check for HIV? This is all non-medical information? Physicals?
11:30
According to this medical dictionary, vaccines are medicine, and this lines up with everything I've ever heard from my doctor:
https://medical-dictionary.thefreedictionary.com/vaccination
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Definition of vaccination in the Medical Dictionary by The Free Dictionary (33 kB)
Catbert 12:29 PM
Hey Nuttboxer. I am a little confused at the moment. Is the concern more along the lines of verifying your vaccination status or getting the actual vaccine?
Nuttboxer 12:31 PM
Sorry Catbert,
To be clear I'm not comfortable disclosing personal medical information.
Catbert 12:33 PM
Hey no worries. I just wanted to make sure we are on the same page. Do you have a couple of minutes today to jump on a zoom call to discuss this in order for me to get a better understanding?
Nuttboxer 12:38 PM
We can certainly chat, but I'm not sure what more I can add to help you understand my position on health and privacy.
12:38
Are you ok if I record the call?"