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Someone posted this in a forum.

"My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner. The network praised her for her quick thinking. She is a highly regarded reporter who interviews for NASCAR and several Olympic games. She has received thousands of death threats. Please say a prayer for her."
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My comment on the situation:

Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies, modelling this behavior and normalizing it to his admirers, and facilitating their shift to the type of extremism that results in THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS sent to a young woman reporter FOR THE MORTAL SIN OF NOT PARROTING THEIR EXACT SENTIMENTS.

I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena, and how deeply and long-term he tainted the "conservative" and "Republican" brands.

Automan Empire says

My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner.

That is not reporting or journalism. It is covering up, lying, obscufating.

Automan Empire says

I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena, and how deeply and long-term he tainted the "conservative" and "Republican" brands.

Gotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.

Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism. Killary is the queen. Trump never advocates for violence or physical harm. However, the Left does.

Al_Sharpton_for_President says

That is not reporting or journalism. It is covering up, lying, obscufating.

As I said in that conversation:

Do you realize the extent to which you just projected your own political biases and expectations upon her motivations and behavior, and ran with it as if it's confirmed fact?

She's a live TV journalist, working for an entity that can be heavily sanctioned for broadcasting "dirty words." If you attribute her actions to simply pivoting the broadcast from something awkward and unacceptable by broadcast standards to something palatable on-air, then what she did was a shrewd and clever pivot on the fly. Commendable within the scope of her immediate duties as a broadcaster.

Automan Empire says

Someone posted this in a forum.

"My good friend is the father of the journalist who came up with this on the spot while she was interviewing the NASCAR race winner. The network praised her for her quick thinking. She is a highly regarded reporter who interviews for NASCAR and several Olympic games. She has received thousands of death threats. Please say a prayer for her."
______________________

My comment on the situation:

Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies, modelling this behavior and normalizing it to his admirers, and facilitating their shift to the type of extremism that results in THOUSANDS OF DEATH THREATS sent to a young woman reporter FOR THE MORTAL SIN OF NOT PARROTING THEIR EXACT SENTIMENTS.

I don't think it has sunk in for many, how BADLY Trump helped change the character of the political arena...

Are you fucking kidding? Tell a bold faced lie for your handlers and face the consequences. This bullshit is trotted out each time, woe me! If you're a public figure and you lie chances are you are antagonizing. Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also far more violent when it comes to carrying out those threats, leftoid mob violence outnumbered right wing violence by 100-1 easily. Just stop lying for your handlers and you may do better. Just don't mention it at all if you don't want to talk about it. But a journalist is supposed to report on what's actually happening, not to tell fairy tales or be a tool for the ministry of truth. Also Trump never called for violence , this bullshit straw man is the typical leftoid playback where you can't make fun of political opponents cause you're responsible for the next riot. But it was OK to make fun, sometimes with aggressive threats- of Trump for 4 years. Please

Automan Empire says

She's a live TV journalist, working for an entity that can be heavily sanctioned for broadcasting "dirty words."

Curse words occassionaly make it through live brodacasts. Typically the reporters acknowledge it in a sheepish way, and may even apologize or comment on its inappropriateness. But misrepresenting reality is a poor solution for a reporter or journalist.

porkchopexpress says

Gotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.

Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism.

You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.

And this is what integrity looks like (by a cnn journalist). Bet she has no problems with the public.

https://mobile.twitter.com/mkhammer/status/1449016964224061445

You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.

mell says

Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also

Another for whom the cognitive dissonance burns deeply like hydrofluoric acid.

Automan Empire says

mell says

Death threats - if those happen - or threats of violence are never ok and should always be condemend, but they come from the left far more than from any other spectrum. The left is also

Another for whom the cognitive dissonance burns deeply like hydrofluoric acid.

Maybe she made a mistake and really heard it wrong but it sure sounds she did this intentionally, you can always clarify later and show integrity. Or you can say, "they are now chanting expletives/dissatisfaction at the president", you can even follow by "which I don't condone" if that's truly how you feel, but you think it's ok to make a bold faced lie on TV for you handlers as a journalist? Def not ok, it's the same or worse to what they did to the Zimmerman tapes or Joe Rogan. You can spin a little, but you cannot lie. In all other professions a big lie will cost you your job pretty instantly.

mell says

You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.

She's interviewing a race car driver, not a fricking Head of State. It's entertainment, and she can be considered as acting in the capacity of ad hoc optics management for the sake of an entertainment broadcast.

Remember, I actually agree with the sentiment "Fuck Joe Biden!" and would enthusiastically join the crowd in shouting it as loud as I could, which is pretty damn loud. But, I also don't have to stay beholden to an elaborate anti-conservative conspiracy theory to explain the behavior of a chick reporter when "the forbidden seven words" break out during her live broadcast.

This is getting to be like the part of the McCarthy era where people finally openly confront the obvious bullshit with, "Have you no decency, Sir?"

Automan Empire says

mell says

You can be on different sides without lying. Journalism is about telling the truth.

She's interviewing a race car driver, not a fricking Head of State. It's entertainment, and she can be considered as acting in the capacity of ad hoc optics management for the sake of an entertainment broadcast.

Remember, I actually agree with the sentiment "Fuck Joe Biden!" and would enthusiastically join the crowd in shouting it as loud as I could, which is pretty damn loud. But, I also don't have to stay beholden to an elaborate anti-conservative conspiracy theory to explain the behavior of a chick reporter when "the forbidden seven words" break out during her live broadcast.

This is getting to be like the part of the McCarthy era where people finally openly confront the obvious bullshit with, "Have you no decency, Sir?"

Then she should have not mentioned it at all or said "the crowd is chanting expletives", you can tell the truth without mentioning certain words. The politically polarized and charged climate existed long before Trump, when W lied- again bold faced - to Americans about Iraqs wmd, when Clinton lied, when Obummer lied about each black kid being shot before the investigation even had started. This has nothing to do with Trump, but he is being blamed for any and all polarization these days.

mell says

This has nothing to do with Trump, but he is being blamed for any and all polarization these days.

The reporter's Father reports thousands of death threats, and I believe him. The people doing this threatening are pretty much all Trump supporters. The situation is more complex than "Trump planned for/supports the people making these death threats" and it should be obvious that this doesn't infer "all Trump supporters agree with the death threats," but you're wasting time and burning overall credibility by trying to distance this actual current event from actual recent behavior of certain Trump supporters.

Automan Empire says

porkchopexpress says

Gotta fight fire with fire. Nobody won a war by being a pussy.

Having said that, death threats are uncalled for but happens on both sides. In fact, I'd argue actual threats and deaths happen more to people defending against the Left and communism.

You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.

Seth Rich

Automan Empire says

The reporter's Father reports thousands of death threats, and I believe him. The people doing this threatening are pretty much all Trump supporters.

Why? How do you know who are these alleged callers really are (IF they exist)?

All of swastika/noose/"attack on Jucy" type of incidents have been proven to be false flags perpetuated by the left. If we go by the experience alone these "death threats" calls either completely made up or performed by pantifa/blm activists.

FuckCCP89 says

attack on Jucy"

He's official laughing stock to everyone at this point. That dumb fuck. And if you mean that "Nascar Noose" even the people who got worked up about it accepted pictures that the "noose" was a door pull that had been there for over a year and moved on.

Automan Empire says

Unlike MOST US PRESIDENTS, Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY. He went out of his way to mock and belittle and even dehumanize his political enemies

His political enemies have been bombing 7 nations over the last 20 years. With Syria, Libya, and Iraq - the justifications were entirely based on lies. There's slavery in Libya because of this, there's starvation in Syria as a result.

People who support this garbage - I have to question their humanity at worst, and their actual civic engagement and knowledge at best. Some fool telling me about how the bombing of Libya was unfortunate but ultimately worked out for the best, has never talked to a Libyan before.

Automan Empire says

Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY.

I heard him call some of his opponents deplorable!!

richwicks says

People who support this garbage - I have to question their humanity at worst, and their actual civic engagement and knowledge at best. Some fool telling me about how the bombing of Libya was unfortunate but ultimately worked out for the best, has never talked to a Libyan before.

What happened to Ghaddafi was disgusting.

As dictators went, he was pretty mild, and he was helping go after crazed Muslims. Instead, the NWO Op Hillary engineered his undeserved execution.

The dirty secret is that Elder Assad did what Ghaddafi got blamed for. in the 80s and 90s, almost certainly with the help of Elder Bush, he got blamed for (not that he did himself any favors by not denying it).

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

What happened to Ghaddafi was disgusting.

As dictators went, he was pretty mild, and he was helping go after crazed Muslims. Instead, the NWO Op Hillary engineered his undeserved execution.

Yeah, what Clinton did in Libya I think disqualifies her from free society. Unbelievable anybody would even consider voting for her.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The dirty secret is that Elder Assad did what Ghaddafi got blamed for. in the 80s and 90s, almost certainly with the help of Elder Bush, he got blamed for (not that he did himself any favors by not denying it).

Really? Hafez al-Assad did the Lockerbie bombing? I hadn't heard that.

Automan Empire says

Trump actively polarized political sides against one another PERSONALLY.

Obama - "bitter clingers" to guns and religion
Hillary -"deplorables"

Automan Empire says

You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples,

The Assassination of George W. Bush: A Love Story Paperback
NY Times publishes Trump assassination short story
Kathy Griffen and Trumps severed head
Maxine Waters calling to harass Trump supporters
Culpepper Va restaurant refusing service to Trump staff

I came up with these right away. Please name an example out of your "thousands" where right wingers have done the equivalent.

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/kitten-corner-canada-hates-brandon/comments?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjozMDExNzUsInBvc3RfaWQiOjQyNzI2NDIxLCJfIjoicnliMzIiLCJpYXQiOjE2MzQ1MTkwNDMsImV4cCI6MTYzNDUyMjY0MywiaXNzIjoicHViLTMyMzkxNCIsInN1YiI6InBvc3QtcmVhY3Rpb24ifQ.0gD9i21tfxuvHF4CMG5g4euiD_Wu6Q5NYzQLESrPRv0

Automan Empire says

And if you mean that "Nascar Noose" even the people who got worked up about it accepted pictures that the "noose" was a door pull that had been there for over a year and moved on.

Only after an FBI investigation, and they only "moved on" after the lie was no longer feasible.

richwicks says

Really? Hafez al-Assad did the Lockerbie bombing? I hadn't heard that.

This was Re: 80s DIsco Bombings.
It should sound familiar: France, West Germany, Israel, Italy, UK all shared their belief it was Assad, but the US Intel Agencies insisted it was Ghadaffi.

With Lockerbie, it was even weirder: John Major faced dissent from his own Party regarding the evidence it was Assad, not Libya.

There was another incident in the early 90s, but Elder Bush ignored evidence leading to Syria (again, everybody but his Admin concluding this) due to Gulf War I diplomatic efforts.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

This was Re: 80s DIsco Bombings.
It should sound familiar: France, West Germany, Israel, Italy, UK all shared their belief it was Assad, but the US Intel Agencies insisted it was Ghadaffi.

These sounds like false flags. What's the point of doing bombings of discos and the like without identifying the purpose and making a demand?

That's a hallmark of a false flag, when the supposed perpetrator does something but can't possibly be advantaged by their action.

In the mid 80s there was talk about forcing Syria to have an international negotiation to get all the parties together and end the Lebanese Civil War and thus Assad's puppeteering between the factions to maintain functional control over Lebanon (Syria jumped between and fought against just about every different side in the Civil War). It was to distract from that and point fingers to Libya.

It was only in the first years of Assad the Younger (Bashar), that Hezbollah was able to take over and resist Assassination attempts that befell other Faction leaders who were gaining popularity across the factions. Now Hezbollah wins every election no matter what, just like Assad does - even though it's clear from recent actions of he Kurds, Turkmen, and Sunni groups to rebellion/autonomy/stunning lack of cooperation with Damascus that earning 95% is of all Syria in re-election is a joke (See also the USA, sadly...)

All the evidence is shaky, but almost everybody except the James Baker put the finger on Assad, since his agents, expert bomb makers, were seen in the company of Libyan agents. Immediately preceding the bombing campaigns.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

All the evidence is shaky, but almost everybody except the James Baker put the finger on Assad, since his agents, expert bomb makers, were seen in the company of Libyan agents. Immediately preceding the bombing campaigns.

What was Assad's motivation?

There was no advantage for Bashir al-Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people in 2013, but the US had a reason to bomb Syria. Genie Energy had an agreement with Israel to mine the oil resources out of the Golan, and there is Russia's only military base in Tartus - plus Israel does want unquestioned control of the Golan.

From that, I'd say it's likely the Ghouta chemical attack either never happened, or was done as a false flag by the western intelligence agencies. I know there was no attack in Douma.

I can follow these things now, because I lived through them. His father, it's before my time, but I see no motivation to be blowing up discos unless he was trying to frame Gaddafi for some reason.

richwicks says

What was Assad's motivation?

Distract from Western Pressure to get Syria to withdraw from intervention and have a Peace Conference in Lebanon by throwing Western focus on Ghaddafi.

At that point, old Gorby was warming up to the idea as he was looking to warm up to the West and Western Europe (France) in particular, the USSR was against Hafez' intervention in Lebanon in the first place.

richwicks says

There was no advantage for Bashir al-Assad to use chemical weapons against his own people in 2013, but the US had a reason to bomb Syria. Genie Energy had an agreement with Israel to mine the oil resources out of the Golan, and there is Russia's only military base in Tartus - plus Israel does want unquestioned control of the Golan.

Yep, but this is from before that. I've never really brought the whole Ghouta thing.

Too bad we won't live long enough to know. Shit about the JFK Assassination still trickles out periodically.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

Too bad we won't live long enough to know. Shit about the JFK Assassination still trickles out periodically.

Haha, we know the truth. The intelligence agencies and other elements in the government had him murdered. That's literally no other explanation why anything should remain classified.

richwicks says

Haha, we know the truth. The intelligence agencies and other elements in the government had him murdered. That's literally no other explanation why anything should remain classified.

For sure. I meant "Know" as in most of the story - who ordered it, what the 'final straw' was, etc.

I'm convinced Patton was murdered, or Donovan allowed the murder to happen.

Most people don't know he was on the road to recovery and set to leave for the US within a day or so, when he got a blood clot. Or that the original traffic incident report - briefly summarized by Journalists who had a look at it (so we know it exists) - and forever lost within 24 hours of it's first appearance.

He was going to do an anti-communism speaking tour and write a book, give interviews, etc. And complain about how State/OSS was bending over backward to accommodate the Soviets.

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/10/virginia-tech-restrict-selfish-inappropriate-embarrassing-student-behavior-football-games-fck-joe-biden-chants-break-across-country/

Virginia Tech to Restrict ‘Selfish, Inappropriate, and Embarrassing Student Behavior’ at Football Games after “Fuck Joe Biden” Chants Break Out Across the Country

zzyzzx says

Virginia Tech to Restrict ‘Selfish, Inappropriate, and Embarrassing Student Behavior’ at Football Games after “Fuck Joe Biden” Chants Break Out Across the Country

Lawsuit in 3...2...1

Automan Empire says

You just hand waved and dismissed thousands of specific recent right-wing examples, and as your counterargument invoked vague whataboutism blaming the left with zero actual examples.

Physical violence, which is the one that matters, is by the Left in 99+ % cases in last 5-10 years. Trumpkins did not burn down Portland, Kenosha, etc...

There is a "Lets go Brandon" billboard on I-10 eastbound near Brookshire...could not take picture unfortunately.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

He was going to do an anti-communism speaking tour and write a book, give interviews, etc. And complain about how State/OSS was bending over backward to accommodate the Soviets.

Yes, I was quite shocked when he wrote in his diary that "we fought on the wrong side"..

If everybody knew what you and I know, bet the government would change in a hurry..

Bd6r says

Physical violence, which is the one that matters, is by the Left in 99+ % cases in last 5-10 years. Trumpkins did not burn down Portland, Kenosha, etc...

Alwayshasbeen.jpg

The worst terror wave in this country happened in the 70s and only ended in the 80s, and it was the Radical Left and Fascist Minority Groups.

The Alphabets invented "Right Wing Militias" to keep their funding up after the early 80s, although they were generally incompetent at chasing down the Leftist Radicals in the 70s.

MisdemeanorRebellionNoCoupForYou says

The Alphabets invented "Right Wing Militias" to keep their funding up after the early 80s, although they were generally incompetent at chasing down the Leftist Radicals in the 70s.

They were invented because our government IS fascist, and they need a distraction. We should have revolted decades ago, and they pre-empted that by creating a "terrorist" group that just wants the Constitution and rule of law enforced again.