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Psychology of vaxxers. They are accepting the state into their body, becoming one with the government


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2021 Oct 22, 3:04pm   150,437 views  1,142 comments

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Maybe the battle is between those who unfairly benefit from credentialism, and those who don't.

Liberals defend their credentials which allow them to exploit those who don't have the same credentials. Credentials create monopolies, the ability to set high prices regardless of quality of service. It is a way to defeat free market competition.

The funding of universities depends entirely on the demand for their degrees, which they control. Their biggest horror would be a system where anyone could take tests to prove competence in a subject without paying for the years of classes and subjecting themselves to obedience to professors.

Thatcher and Trump refused to give the automatic respect many academics feel is their due. They gave the impression that they could see right through us, an uncomfortable feeling.
- Thomas Frank

Most of academia is less about learning than about paying for a paper proof of status and conformity. Non-conformists are expelled from schools, or failed out. Most teachers do not like their authority to be questioned. Bosses like the academic proof of conformity when they hire. The most "educated" are the most obedient.

Trump was a threat to their credentials and therefore a threat to their incomes and status.

The academic elite need a reason to hate those threatening themselves, therefore they use imaginary "racism", to which there is no defense. The accusation is the conviction.

Then they don't need to worry about the real class problem, which is independent of race. They would be uncomfortable looking at class, because they'd have to look at themselves and their unearned class privileges.

So their faith in the injection is faith in the "expert class" of which they are members, and they demand that the hoi polloi submit to it as an expression of the elite's power and prestige.



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350   Patrick   2022 Jun 7, 4:26pm  

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/talking-to-normies-about-vaccination?s=r


First, some notes on normie psychology:

You have to understand that they think the vaccines are the best things ever. They believe Pfizer and Moderna have almost singlehandedly turned the whole pandemic around and given them their lives back. If ever a doubt should creep into their minds about that, they will fall back to believing that being vaccinated is the right pro-social thing to do, and that not being vaccinated is evil, selfish and stupid. ...

Contradictory information will make them extremely uncomfortable, and they’ll look for any reason at all not to believe it. If you cause them too much discomfort, they’ll get angry, tune you out, and put you in the antivaxxer bin, where you can be safely ignored.

It’s going to be very hard to win ground here, and your goal shouldn’t be total victory. You just want to get them to think for themselves, consider their own experiences as valid and real information about the world, and break out of the limited vaccinator-cult patterns of thought long enough to ponder how many boosters they really want to put up with.

The most important thing is to present a relaxed, jovial scepticism on key points. The goal is not to argue, but to challenge in an oblique, casual way, while giving as much as you take. Unless we’re talking about somebody who absolutely trusts you and is earnestly seeking your opinion, you shouldn’t be scheduling in-depth conversations or sitting down for a serious talk. You want to raise questions and plant little seeds of doubt, before they ever realise what is happening, and then you want to fade away before they notice that you’re encouraging them to have heretical thoughts.
351   GNL   2022 Jun 7, 5:12pm  

Patrick says

https://www.eugyppius.com/p/talking-to-normies-about-vaccination?s=r



First, some notes on normie psychology:

You have to understand that they think the vaccines are the best things ever. They believe Pfizer and Moderna have almost singlehandedly turned the whole pandemic around and given them their lives back. If ever a doubt should creep into their minds about that, they will fall back to believing that being vaccinated is the right pro-social thing to do, and that not being vaccinated is evil, selfish and stupid. ...

Contradictory information will make them extremely uncomfortable, and they’ll look for any reason at all not to believe it. If you cause them too much discomfort, they’ll get angry, tune you out, and put you in the antivaxxer bin, where you can be safely ignored.

It’s going to be very hard to win ...

I wish I could do this. I am way too angry to be able to do this. The freedoms we will lose because of the precedent that has been set is off the charts.
352   Bd6r   2022 Jun 8, 9:02am  

Behold, SCIENCE! censorship on twatter. Note also that it is now PROVEN that at longer timescales, vaxxx makes you more susceptible to covid than no vaxxx.
354   Patrick   2022 Jun 12, 10:55am  

https://nitter.net/kacrn91/status/1535667098726215680#m


@kacrn91
Jun 11
I had a patient yesterday wanting his 4th booster. Immune compromised with cancer reoccurrence, after remission for almost 4 years. When I told him we didn’t provide the 💉 I was called every name you can imagine. I discourage any booster & he left in a rage. They don’t see it.


Natural selection at work.
356   Patrick   2022 Jun 13, 10:44am  

https://nitter.net/ezralevant/status/1536354929799053314#m


Ezra Levant 🍁🚛
@ezralevant
3h
They love the pandemic. They want it to go on forever. More pay, less work, lots of malingering and drama. The government class has never been richer or bigger.

The lockdowns were the best thing to happen to these people, and you're damned right they want it to go on forever.

Blacklock's Reporter
@mindingottawa
4h
About 230,000 fed employees continue to work from home in Year Three of pandemic, says cabinet: "It's important to understand the magnitude" blacklocks.ca/230000-working… #cdnpoli @Joanne_NL @FilomenaTassi
358   Patrick   2022 Jun 17, 6:01pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-greatest-damage-from-covid-has


the greatest damage from covid has not been from respiratory virus
it has been from mental illness (and this illness has long been spreading)




359   Patrick   2022 Jun 19, 1:01pm  



I do think there is less independence of thought among people who cannot defend themselves, but not too sure about restricting democracy.
361   richwicks   2022 Jun 29, 10:34pm  

Patrick says

https://babylonbee.com/news/sad-no-one-at-whole-foods-has-yet-received-the-news-that-the-pandemic-ended-18-months-ago


It didn't end 18 months ago. The American Trucker Convoy was just a couple of months ago.
362   Onvacation   2022 Jul 6, 5:38pm  

Patrick says


https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/the-greatest-damage-from-covid-has

a choice will have to be made between an free society with personal responsibility or technocratic subjugation masquerading as safety.

choose wisely.
363   Patrick   2022 Jul 6, 10:04pm  

Onvacation says

technocratic subjugation masquerading as safety


Thanks, that's a very good summary of the WuFlu hysteria.
364   AmericanKulak   2022 Jul 7, 1:48am  

Patrick says


Contradictory information will make them extremely uncomfortable, and they’ll look for any reason at all not to believe it. If you cause them too much discomfort, they’ll get angry, tune you out, and put you in the antivaxxer bin, where you can be safely ignored.

West Coasters I know are still doing COVID rapid testing. Wearing masks, etc. Sending out emails about sicknesses in offices, reminders to test and stay home if suspect, etc.

Nobody else is. About a year ago some Government Employee Broward Minority types were still masking, but that ended before last Christmas. I can go to the Supermarket and MAYBE on a crowded Friday night see one older Karen wearing one.

I forgot the name of the syndrome/effect when people really don't believe something but are afraid that everybody else believes it so they act like it's a real thing.
365   richwicks   2022 Jul 7, 2:15am  

Patrick says

I do think there is less independence of thought among people who cannot defend themselves, but not too sure about restricting democracy.


We don't have a democracy as was discovered in the last few years.

Propaganda is our main controlling system, and you know that's not only wrong, it's outright hostile to being correct and logical. They attack the truth. They do this from war, to medicine, to just general health. Remember when eating more than 2 eggs a week would lead to heart attack? Remember the food pyramid that promoted a high carbohydrate diet and a low protein and fat one?



An oldie by a goodie.

https://www.amazon.com/Toxic-Sludge-Good-You-Relations/dp/1567510604
366   Patrick   2022 Jul 9, 12:30pm  

From Dr Kory:


My main source for the more detailed reports is a senior ER/ICU nurse who has been carefully observing and documenting the presentations and problems occurring in the care of vaccinated patients presenting to a major academic medical center. She has continued to discreetly and prudently extract information from a huge network of colleagues she has built over her career. She responded to my last post, adding new, even more alarming information. Here goes:

(*I have spelled out all abbreviations and inserted explanation of some terms)

6/15/22: Thanks for getting my input out there. More cognitive dissonance showing, though. I'll have more very soon - picked up a bunch of weekend night shifts on cardiac units - 2 separate ones. I just found out they added multiple crash carts to every unit in entire hospital. That costs a bundle. And is another red flag.

One more thing....that VAXXED label is showing up for research participants, as I wondered if that were the case. Can't say that is the only use of the very prominent positioning of it on patient chart, as those were indeed "challenging cases" not otherwise explained. And nursing notes are still being used to note patient’s request to enter their vax lot numbers and which vax they received, and where if they obtained outside of our system - boosters as well. Pt just wants it noted in the chart - little do they know it doesn't count. The commenter who said there are no billing codes for "vax injury" discussions is absolutely correct. The elephant in the room is simply not billable!

6/24/22: So crash carts first: One way to find out (whether they had indeed added more cardiac arrest carts) proved to be walking specific units. Yes, many were added, especially those whose unit design is one long, long hallway with no way to see who is close by when you hit the code (cardiac arrest alert) button or yell out for help - they had to populate with more carts. Poor planning and design when built just a few years ago. (But that doesn't surprise, Pierre. For our massive cancer hospital, they never put oxygen access in the walls, NOR was the wall suction installed for nasogastric tubes, etc. The valves in rooms were never hooked to anything until ...oops, last minute shut down of sections of each floor to fix that massive mistake .Delayed opening of cancer hospital and neuro floors - Disaster.). So for the carts, they have added more mostly on poorly designed units, but those within the existing hospital structures they couldn't change . We have off-shoot ICU sections that were late converts to ICU capability and they had to have cart augmentation for sure. Carts are often parked outside the rooms of those we expect a crash (cardiac arrest) at any time, or have arrested earlier in the shift. Change out and restocked and sits there just in case. So that cart is effectively dedicated to that patient for the shift at least.

The supply coordinators:

Second was going to the supply coordinators who have to physically come up and change out each crash cart. Each time. Each unit, sometimes multiple times a night. For YEARS at night, there was only ONE person per whole section of hospital, often running them thru our underground tunnels to far flung sections. We have ATS (automated transport system) but crash carts are forbidden to be sent this way. They must be physically delivered and taken back the same way to be cleaned and restocked using a check off list, patient labels for charge items, etc. You know the process.

Since this increase in codes, even if cart was not cut open, they've had to hire dedicated supply coordinators at NIGHT and more pharmacy staff dedicated only to restock and verification/cross check status each cart - the integrity of each. Some drugs are no longer sent by pneumatic tubes and are being sent on cart, if not already in Pyxis (unit located pharmacy dispensing system for nurses). Someone must physically be with cart at all times in that case. I saw security with pharma staff and cart, just this weekend. Our old SICU area has its own separate way of handling carts and codes internally, so I do not count them. Transplant floor lung/heart - ECMO, etc - already had multiples.

We have implemented universal beds (a standard hospital room that can be converted to ICU capability to take care of sicker patients) in almost every new part or renovated part since 2009. Flip the wall behind the patient and it's fully converted.. But waiting for a new cart to come up when you only had two per unit and now multiple events - that was a liability they did not want to absorb. It's not the expected-to-arrest and still full-code status patients that are circling (the drain), it's the never expected to code patients - younger ones especially - that drove this decision.

Med Surg floors also got more carts, b/c they are getting more complex patients sent to them. I call it level-of-care-creep.. Greater complexity, but never have they altered the RN:Patient ratios to accommodate the higher level of care. Many RNs there are new, untrained to carry out orders now being placed for these patients whose illness or disease process they never would usually see on a Med Surg floor. They are pushing limits on allowable infusions, titration to higher doses, etc and it was a point of discussion that some nurses just are not comfortable. But, you fired a chunk of your staff who refused vax - they were the more experienced providers of all levels and you now have newbies who can't manage the care levels especially when their patient ratios are not altered, no training. It's a problem. Add in a few codes.... a mess. We have a very strong nurses union and this will be changed. Asking newbie nurses to work out of their scope of training or needed certification puts patients in danger, especially when they have "weird issues" - Charge Nurse I've known for years on one of these units said they just have not seen the clotting issues they have now before, with difficulty doing peripheral blood draws on patients who she thought were just Covid recovered. Turns out, looking at charts, they are reporting vax/boosters but IT'S IN THE NURSING NOTES WHERE PTS ARE REPORTING IT, and must be documented as a patient communication to Nursing. If they got vax/boost at our facilities, it's already clear in the chart that it is so. She ( a senior head nurse did not even notice this fine little detail. It's buried several layers down in the EMR (the hospitals electronic medical record system). So I believe many (nurses and doctors) are seeing them as unvaxxed, instead they are led to think it is just Covid-related issues post-recovery, as they are not seeing the patients real vax status. Supports that narrative of unvaxxed being cause of oh, EVERYTHING IN THE WORLD.

This last issue above (deeply explored in Part I) describes the inability of nurses to accurately document a patient as being vaccinated upon admission to the hospital.

This fraud has been crying out for an investigative reporter (out of the 10 left in the world) to look into who and how the Federal Health Agencies influenced the process for documenting vaccination status newly admitted hospital patients across the country. Electronic health record systems in major hospitals across the country followed the same (ridiculous) process: if you were vaccinated in a physicians office that was employed by that hospital, and the physician was connected to the same electronic health record, and the physician or nurse documented it in the electronic health record, you got recorded as “vaccinated”. However, if you had your vaccination anywhere else (most people), even if you had your vaccination card on you or could remember the date and location where you got the jab, you got documented as “unknown” on the main screen of the health record.

In those cases, the patient’s vaccination status gets placed in the “nursing notes” section where no-one looks for it. All of these patients documented as “unknown” were interpreted by all the health care providers as “unvaccinated.” In this way, the majority of doctors and nurses were led to believe that everyone in the hospital was unvaccinated. It also allowed our federal health agencies to create and disseminate charts and graphs showing the hospitals purportedly filling with unvaccinated people (I actually believe that even these data were further manipulated). The impact of this widespread fraud fueled the vast majority of doctors to hector anyone and everything to get vaccinated. Unclear how much blame to assign them on this as it took me a while to figure out why no patient in my ICU ever had a “vaccinated” status on the front screen of their record. Anyway, moving on:

The unit I worked on had float staff I never met, but mostly long-term coworkers and we are all of the same mindset. I kept quiet around the float pool folks until later in night when they had their own stories to share about pts. All of them confirmed what we've all seen - none of it makes sense unless you go to the 800 lb elephant in the room. The vax cheerleaders on staff - never hear a peep from their end. I know some have buyer's remorse for pushing family to get vaxxed, and no need to dig into that wound. Long Covid is only term allowed, no vax injury.

This last comment really got me. The standard practice is to describe all the strange illnesses as “Long haul COVID” rather than mRNA “vaccination injury syndrome.” Of course that is what happens. Entirely predictable and so so sad.

There is a Long Covid study many employees as well as patients are participating in - I know two employees in it. Don't know that it is providing them any answers to their disabling issues, especially at their young age, but they're hopeful. They are true believers - got fully vaxxed and boosted and will continue to do so. And they continue to contract Covid variants. Pass it along to the rest of the same vaxxed-up cohort. Rinse and repeat. To bring up data that points to the exponential and cumulative harm is just pointless. They want to die on the hill of believing they did the right thing, no matter what their bodies are telling them. Until they can no longer do so.
ED doc - got him pulled aside but we had to go outside to talk. And yes, phone off. In ED, pt issues are discussed in a kind of code where it concerns vax injury as probable cause. Administrators wander through at all hourr so open discussions are just not happening. Residents are getting more frustrated - I guess its showing in staff meetings b/c they are seeing data and pts are bringing in data. Shift hand-off report can get tense, I was told. (Many suffering from the cognitive dissonance "I have hundreds of thousands in med school loans out. I cannot deviate or I lose everything and still owe all that loan money back. Must stick to what I am told") They become check-box doctors at that point. You either sell your soul, or seek your own data and research and then join the "French Medical Resistance" - not an easy call for a 20-something to make. Not every patient is willing to walk in the dark about the very severe issues they are having, with PCPs telling them it's nothing to worry about. The push back is real from patients that chose to be informed and the ED docs have to find a way to address this at their level before they admit a pt or discharge with some vague diagnosis. I see future liability coming as the data keeps pushing out. More patients are asking for their FULL medical record. They know. They know. All the other stuff is still happening. Still have no space in cancer hospital side for the explosion of pts needing treatment - it is NOT b/c they delayed treatment due to the pandemic. It's because they just received a diagnosis that requires immediate intervention. Not from delayed screening or treatment initiation. According to the same case manager I spoke with weeks ago that is carrying a pt load of almost 1000 pts now, she is trying to get creative and find space at outpatient facilities closed on weekends and schedule her teams and patients to go to those sites with full equipment when it's appropriate to get infusion at least. This is crazy. She called asking if we could open up space in a specific area - and yes, we are doing it.
367   Patrick   2022 Jul 9, 1:08pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/ninja-omicron-ba5-covid-fearporn


Ninja (Omicron BA.5) COVID Fearporn
Now be a good highly vaccinated citizen and get in line for the "latest and greatest" booster, Comrade!

When I first started discussing “Mass Formation Psychosis” (and specifically on Joe Rogan #1757), the entire Silicon Valley and Corporate Media seemed to simultaneously loose bladder control, claiming that there was no such thing, that this was not in the American Psychiatric Association's Diagnostic and Statistics Manual, had no basis in the literature, and was a fabricated concept. “Factcheckers” had a field day. The Guardian and Forbes almost stroked out in outrage. In a fit of self righteous indignation, aging 60s rocker Neil Young, whose Spotfy hit rate was anemic at best, left Spotify together with Crosby, Stills and Nash, only to return later with their tails between their legs. Prompting many sagebrush sages to quote Lynard Skynard "I hope Neil Young will remember, a Southern man don't need him around anyhow." Turn it up. ...

As the topic started trending, Google immediately started editing search results in real time to elevate unqualified opinions that cast shade on the theory and teachings. Then world-renowned Professor of Clinical Psychology Mattias Desmet, PhD published “The Psychology of Totalitarianism” which documented both the process and the rich academic literature supporting it. Nothing but crickets chirping have been heard since. As far as I am concerned, that feels like yet more vindication (not that I care anymore), and a clear indication that Google and corporate media knew all along that they were guilty of intentionally driving COVID “Mass Formation Psychosis” in the general population. ...

The actual real world data are showing that it is the highly vaccinated who are getting infected and reinfected by Omicron and its recent variants. So the response of Pfizer, Moderna, and the US HHS is more jabs which could not have been more carefully designed to further exacerbate immune imprinting in the highly vaccinated if they had tried. Or maybe they are trying. Who knows. Everything about the COVIDcrisis and these vaccines is upside down, smothered in propaganda, and dished up on a plate of Fearporn. ...

Citing Eric Topol’s recent Fearporn substack, the Daily Beast hyperventilates with this piece entitled “This New ‘Ninja’ COVID Variant Is the Most Dangerous One Yet”. Are you sufficiently scared yet? Resistance is futile. You will be assimilated.

Yipes. These symptoms must be wicked bad. According to Business Insider, “Symptoms of the Omicron BA.5 variant include runny nose, sneezing, and sore throat”. OMG! Katy, Bar the Door! ...

I will close my commentary on this sordid specific Fearporn example by presenting you with the smug genius at Daily Beast who is responsible for pushing this tripe, and invite you to let him know about how much you personally appreciate his contribution to raising the fear level in the general population. How do these people even live with themselves? I hope he is single. I would hate to be his significant other (speaking in a gender neutral fashion). If I was, I would certainly want to wear a mask in public.


Lol, Dr. Malone is on fire!
369   Patrick   2022 Jul 25, 5:37pm  

https://markoshinskie8de.substack.com/p/the-tetons-destination-weddings-and


Someone I know’s nephew lives in Seattle. The nephew recently got married in an outdoor wedding in Grand Teton National Park. Eleven people attended. The groom disinvited his own mother because she was unvaxxed. BTW, the bride and groom had already had Covid, perhaps because the jabs damaged their immune systems.

News of the shots’ ineffectiveness probably hadn’t reached the newlyweds. Inhabitants of the Pacific Coast Autonomous Zone may resemble those Japanese soldiers stationed on remote Pacific islands during World War II, who spent months following Japan’s surrender thinking the War was still going on and lashed out at Americans who told them the truth. ...

Over the past two-plus years, I’ve written a series of personal stories chronicling the profound stupidity that has been—and still is—the Covid overreaction. This stupidity is as deep as the Grand Canyon.

OK, maybe that metaphor misstates proportion. I’ve been in the Grand Canyon. The Coronamania stupidity is actually much deeper. Seeing government officials still pushing the jabs, and millions still wearing masks, the Corona stupidity just might be bottomless. We’ll see.

The rest of this week’s post should write itself. If you find it in your heart, please post in the Comments an especially crazy or sad Coronamania story you’ve experienced, witnessed or heard.
370   Patrick   2022 Jul 29, 2:40pm  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/believe-in-something-even-if-it-wrecks


you’ve wrapped your identity, your career, and your grand plans up in your claims and if you believe them strongly enough you will reject evidence that would threaten your worldview and the rejection can get pretty intense. it can rise to the point of outright hallucination. you NEED this belief to remain whole. ...

they will grab anything no matter how absurd and counterfactual to preserve their cherished mantras.

“it’s not a recession.”

“vaccines were never supposed to stop the spread.”

“that wasn’t real socialism.”

this state of existence is somewhat desperate. it would be pitiable were it not so pernicious. ...




this is precisely why these “leaders” gravitate to doomsday ideologies like “millions will die from covid unless we grasp dictatorial control” and “we must take over the global economy and make everyone give up their cars and eat bugs or we all die in fiery cataclysm or watery grave in 10 years”?

they need these high stakes to justify such oppressive action. to act the utter oppressor, you must be saving humanity from itself and from vast, imminent harm. whether the members of the society themselves want to do this or not is literally of no moment. consent does not factor into “ends justify means.” only outcomes and crises averted.

it’s how they wake up every morning and really, truly believe that anyone who disagrees with them is the enemy and that they are on the side of goodness and light. ...

it also means they cannot hear you. you cannot reason with them or talk them down. these are zealots convinced they serve the collective. talk of “rights” or attempts to contradict “the science” go nowhere. you just get branded as one of the benighted to be silenced, censored, or trodden over on the road to a glorious future.

the history of such endeavors similarly cuts no ice. “we are the smarter guys and this is our time.”

their message will not change, only the manner in which they present it will.

and when that fails, they will come for you.

these are people so bent around their ideals they they can literally tell themselves that taking over the world, destroying the societal institutions of freedom, creating poverty and abject dependence upon the state, and rendering educational institutions indoctrination factories is a moral act.
374   Patrick   2022 Aug 6, 2:33pm  

https://notthebee.com/article/give-it-up-for-this-french-physicist-who-posted-a-photo-of-a-sausage-and-had-everyone-believing-it-was-a-main-sequence-red-dwarf-star-


Give it up for this French physicist who posted a photo of a sausage and had people believing it was a main sequence red dwarf star




It's a slice of sausage.

Eventually the man himself copped to the ruse:

In view of some comments, I feel compelled to clarify that this tweet showing an alleged snapshot of Proxima Centauri was a form of amusement. Let us learn to be wary of arguments from authority as much as of the spontaneous eloquence of certain images….
375   Patrick   2022 Aug 6, 5:13pm  

https://rwmalonemd.substack.com/p/groupthink-we-are-all-victims


But what about the internal psychological processes at play within the United States HHS policy making group? The group which has been directly responsible for the amazingly unscientific and counterproductive decisions concerning bypassing normal bioethical, regulatory and clinical development norms to expedite genetic vaccine products (“Operation Warp Speed”), suppressing early treatment with repurposed drugs, mask and vaccine mandates, lockdowns, school closures, social devision, defamation and intentional character assassination of critics, and a wide range of massively disruptive and devastating economic policies. All have lived through these events, and have become aware of the many lies and misrepresentations (subsequently contradicted by data) which have been walked back or historically revised by Drs. Fauci, Collins, Birx, Walensky, Redfield, and even Mr. Biden. Is there a body of scholarship and academic literature which can help make sense of the group dynamics and clearly dysfunctional decision making which first characterized the “coronavirus taskforce” under Vice President Pence, and then continued in a slightly altered form through the Biden administration? ...

Irving Janis developed the concept of groupthink to explain the disordered decision-making process that occurs in groups whose members work together over an extended period of time. His research into groupthink led to the wide acceptance of the power of peer pressure. According to Janis, there are several key elements to groupthink, including:

The group develops an illusion of invulnerability that causes them to be excessively optimistic about the potential outcomes of their actions.

Group members believe in the inherent accuracy of the group's beliefs or the inherent goodness of the group itself. Such an example can be seen when people make decisions based on patriotism. The group tends to develop negative or stereotyped views of people not in the group.

The group exerts pressure on people who disagree with the group's decisions.

The group creates the illusion that everyone agrees with the group by censoring dissenting beliefs. Some members of the group take it upon themselves to become “mindguards” and correct dissenting beliefs.

This process can cause a group to make risky or immoral decisions.
376   HeadSet   2022 Aug 6, 5:47pm  

Patrick says

The group develops an illusion of invulnerability that causes them to be excessively optimistic about the potential outcomes of their actions.

True, groupthink is a real phenomenon. But that ain't what happened with HHS. Look more toward the corruption that $billions in profits to companies with a revolving door of personnel in the HHS, plus the associated bribe money from those $billions.
377   richwicks   2022 Aug 6, 7:50pm  

Patrick says


Irving Janis developed the concept of groupthink to explain the disordered decision-making process that occurs in groups whose members work together over an extended period of time. His research into groupthink led to the wide acceptance of the power of peer pressure. According to Janis, there are several key elements to groupthink, including:


It's not groupthink.

It's obedience. Stop attributing to stupidity what can be explained by malice when the government is involved. They are malicious, not stupid.

If this was actual stupidity, and not malice, the stupid people would be removed, but they NEVER are. This is intentional.
379   Patrick   2022 Aug 8, 10:32am  

https://nitter.pussthecat.org/P_McCulloughMD/status/1556280432907456513#m


Peter McCullough, MD MPH
@P_McCulloughMD
Aug 7
96% of doctors took them and then later on they learned about the risks of neurological damage, blood clots, myocarditis. So they feel since they took the risk, their patients should bear that risk too. Its a form of fear-driven disordered thinking. Patients should probe them.
380   HeadSet   2022 Aug 8, 2:37pm  

Patrick says

96% of doctors took them and then later on they learned about the risks of neurological damage, blood clots, myocarditis. So they feel since they took the risk, their patients should bear that risk too. Its a form of fear-driven disordered thinking. Patients should probe them.

The proper response for a true medical professional would be to stop the jabs and research Ivermectin and HCQ;.
384   Patrick   2022 Aug 16, 4:13pm  

https://stevekirsch.substack.com/p/at-and-t-phone-reps-are-required


AT&T phone reps are required to be vaccinated even though they work from home
I talked to an AT&T phone rep who has been working from home since March 2020. AT&T requires all such workers who work exclusively at home (and are never in the office) to be fully vaccinated.

If you are an AT&T phone rep who has been working from home since the start of the pandemic, AT&T requires you to be fully vaccinated to continue your employment (religious or medical exemptions are available).

Also, the union sided with the company in requiring vaccination for employees who work 100% at home.

The only possible explanation for such a requirement is that AT&T believes that the virus can be transmitted over the phone lines.

I would love to see that data on that one.


WTF?
385   Patrick   2022 Aug 19, 11:47am  

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/social-contagion-is-long-covid-often


social contagion: is "long covid" often just "long parent"?
monkey see, monkey do, monkey pretend to be ill too!

want so see what social contagion looks like?

it looks like this:

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1/ Our new preprint on Long Covid & Kids:

TOPLINE: Teenagers who had parents with long covid were significantly more likely to report long covid symptoms at 6 months after a positive OR negative SARS-CoV-2 PCR-test (CLoCK study)

Surprised?…




is "long covid" mostly a mental disease? ...

“long covid” is showing a stunning number of the markers of psychosomatic disease, social contagion, and of munchausen by proxy behavior whereby caregivers impose illnesses and maladies upon children to gain attention and approval by caring for them.





Women with "trans" children are the same thing. Mom's mental illness foisted on the kids.
386   Patrick   2022 Aug 24, 8:10pm  

https://www.medpagetoday.com/special-reports/exclusives/97592


Gregory Poland, MD, director of the Mayo Clinic's Vaccine Research Group in Rochester, Minnesota, remains a steadfast vaccination advocate -- even though he developed tinnitus soon after receiving his second dose of COVID vaccine.

A little more than a year ago, Poland was driving back from the hospital after receiving his second shot when he nearly veered out of his lane.

"It was like someone suddenly blew a dog whistle in my ear," Poland told MedPage Today. "It has been pretty much unrelenting."

Since then, Poland said he has been experiencing what he describes as life-altering tinnitus, or ringing in the ear. It occurs in both ears, but is worse in the left than in the right.

He remains steadfast that opting to receive his booster -- after which his tinnitus briefly disappeared but then returned at a slightly higher pitch that made it just a bit less bothersome -- was the right move. After all, it would be "way too ironic" for a prominent vaccinologist to die of COVID, he said. He also worried about the possibility of contracting COVID and spreading it to his patients.

Yet Poland realizes his life may never be the same, and that many others may be grappling with the same reality. He continues to receive emails from other individuals across the country and around the world who say they have also developed tinnitus after COVID vaccination.

Poland believes there may be tens of thousands of people affected in the U.S. and potentially millions worldwide. He feels strongly that more research should be done to determine what caused these symptoms and what can be done to help people desperate for relief.

"What has been heartbreaking about this, as a seasoned physician, are the emails I get from people that, this has affected their life so badly, they have told me they are going to take their own life," Poland said.

Troubling Symptoms

Poland said of his own symptoms that he "can only begin to estimate the number of times I just want to scream because I can't get rid of the noise or how many hours of sleep I've lost," he said. The noise he hears is "particularly loud at night when there are no masking sounds."


WTF? Asshole doctor injured by the death jab, so he takes another death jab anyway.
387   RedStar   2022 Aug 24, 8:22pm  

My childhood friend, an ardent "science" supporter, with whom I often argue about climate change, got pretty sick after the first shot. Mid 40s, perfect health...all of a sudden massive palpitations, shortness of breath, panic attacks...all from the shot. The MD's wouldn't diagnose myocarditis but he was in a bad way for months and they told him to not get the 2nd shot.

Just learned that after all that he ended up getting the shot again this last month. He's happy that he's finally fully protected. You can't fix stupid.
388   richwicks   2022 Aug 24, 8:45pm  

Patrick says


WTF? Asshole doctor injured by the death jab, so he takes another death jab anyway.


There's a point where you have to let people go.

You expect them to reason as you do, but after a point - let them go. Haven't you experienced this, in a FAR SMALLER circle?

My business partner's father is a PhD biologist. His father is ENTIRELY taken in by this bullshit, he's an expert in this field. You have to just cut some people loose. His father, of ALL PEOPLE should know, but doesn't, and although he has some difficulty with his father as a relationship, he still trusts him over his own logical capacity. My business partner is no idiot, but man, he's got some walls in his logic. If he read it in the Economist - it's true.
389   Patrick   2022 Aug 29, 6:39pm  

https://dossier.substack.com/p/the-purge-biden-admin-vax-mandates


The Purge: Biden Admin vax mandates were used to suppress dissent, produce ideological conformity
Nothing scientific about it.

Jordan Schachtel
42 min ago
There was never anything scientific about it.

The “Fauci ouchie” has become weaponized by governments to act as a litmus test for compliance and conformity, and the FBI’s developing role in the process serves as the perfect example for how the purge is being conducted throughout the American government.

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