Jury finds men guilty of murdering Ahmaud Arbery
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2021 Nov 24, 12:34pm 2,431 views 42 comments
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FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2021 Nov 26, 5:13pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia
2021 Nov 26, 5:13pm
richwicks says
How would you change the law? It seems to me that loosening up the law opens the door to vigilante justice including murder for low level crimes and even instances where crime is only suspected.
I’ve been on a jury on the other end of this. That is the DA couldn’t prove definitively that the suspect was the shooter. So instead they used a California law that says if you commit actions that a reasonable person would understand would likely lead to further more violent acts, that you are guilty of the subsequent acts as well, even if it’s not know if you directly committed those acts or your co conspirators committed the acts. 3 of the 12 jurors outright stated they didn’t like the law. What’s funny is there were 5 blacks on the jury (3 from the hood and the suspect was black). The three from the hood all had the suspect guilty immediately when we did a first poll as soon as we got in the jury room. I’m thinking they had already made up their minds based on life experience.
FuckTheMainstreamMedia saysThose arguing the verdict was wrong aren’t actually saying the Jurors applied the law incorrectly. They are actually arguing that the law is wrong and the jurors should have engaged in nullification.
I would argue the law has to be changed. Remember, jury nullification was used extensively to absolve people from murder in the 1950's when the victim was black.
You really want to go back down that road again? I don't.
How would you change the law? It seems to me that loosening up the law opens the door to vigilante justice including murder for low level crimes and even instances where crime is only suspected.
I’ve been on a jury on the other end of this. That is the DA couldn’t prove definitively that the suspect was the shooter. So instead they used a California law that says if you commit actions that a reasonable person would understand would likely lead to further more violent acts, that you are guilty of the subsequent acts as well, even if it’s not know if you directly committed those acts or your co conspirators committed the acts. 3 of the 12 jurors outright stated they didn’t like the law. What’s funny is there were 5 blacks on the jury (3 from the hood and the suspect was black). The three from the hood all had the suspect guilty immediately when we did a first poll as soon as we got in the jury room. I’m thinking they had already made up their minds based on life experience.
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richwicks
2021 Nov 26, 5:23pm
richwicks
2021 Nov 26, 5:23pm
FuckTheMainstreamMedia says
We allow the laws we have because there's a complete absence of civic responsibility in the country. Can you even name any bills that are being put through your state or federal government at this moment?
How would you change the law? It seems to me that loosening up the law opens the door to vigilante justice including murder for low level crimes and even instances where crime is only suspected.
We allow the laws we have because there's a complete absence of civic responsibility in the country. Can you even name any bills that are being put through your state or federal government at this moment?
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https://www.foxnews.com/live-news/ahmaud-arbery-trial-jury-deliberations-wednesday
Does anyone know what arguments they used to convict them? I didn't pay much attention to this trial, and didn't expect this verdict.
While I think the outcome of Arbery getting shot and killed was unfortunate and sad that things turned out that way, I felt like it was clear self defense. I feel this way because I think when a person is brandishing a weapon, if someone is crazy enough to attack them, they should shoot, or else they risk their weapon being taken from them and used against them.
I might feel differently if Arbery was cornered, making Arbery feel like he had to attack or he would surely die from inaction, but the video I saw didn't show the man with a gun advancing on him, nor even pointing the gun.