Is Trump playing politics on his pro-jab stance?
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2021 Dec 21, 12:43pm 3,142 views 47 comments
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tanked
2021 Dec 23, 11:22am
Bd6r says
Right, whether it's a real one, or someone making fun of one, either way the picture has art value
richwicks saysThere is absolutely no way to know if that person above, is actually being serious or is pretending to be a paranoid, crazy, Karen. You don't know
perhaps, but I have seen such karens IRL
Right, whether it's a real one, or someone making fun of one, either way the picture has art value
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Ceffer
2021 Dec 23, 12:05pm
Ceffer
2021 Dec 23, 12:05pm
Going from not paying attention to Trump scarcely in the past to watching his words and actions carefully for a while, he talks like an Everyman, but his words and actions are extremely careful, crafted and strategic. He doesn't miss a beat too often. I do wonder if he is guided by the gaming computers of military intelligence.
I would say he has some purpose in the vaccine brouhahaha. What it is, I wouldn't know, but he seems to want the vaccine agenda accelerated to the point that it hits a the brick wall of public awareness at 400 mph and goes up in flames along with the Deep State.
Trump hasn't cast himself as a savior. He has been pointing to state sovereignty and election reform as the saviors, along with getting the treasonous infiltrators out of office. The foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC is a virulent cancer at this point, but reclaiming the lazy butt states with citizen direct action can save things in this country (along with the Second Amendment).
I would say he has some purpose in the vaccine brouhahaha. What it is, I wouldn't know, but he seems to want the vaccine agenda accelerated to the point that it hits a the brick wall of public awareness at 400 mph and goes up in flames along with the Deep State.
Trump hasn't cast himself as a savior. He has been pointing to state sovereignty and election reform as the saviors, along with getting the treasonous infiltrators out of office. The foreign occupied foreign city state of Washington DC is a virulent cancer at this point, but reclaiming the lazy butt states with citizen direct action can save things in this country (along with the Second Amendment).
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tanked
2021 Dec 23, 12:42pm
WookieMan says
Trump fired Fauci from handling the coronavirus matter in August of 2020. Dr. Atlas was appointed in his place.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/08/ron-paul/good-news-faucis-out-and-common-sense-might-be-returning/?source=patrick.net
You could say he should have completely fired him but Brandon would have still put him back where he was, just as he did.
He's not going to admit that the vaccines with EUA during his administration are bad. He's waiting and hoping for a Fauci fuck up. He's in a lose/lose situation either way. He didn't fire Fauci, when it was obvious he should. He can blame Biden for carrying on with Fauci's bull shit, but Biden can just claim that Trump didn't realize Fauci was a fraud.
If Trump runs in 2024, he's going to have problems. And it won't be against Biden. Although the Dems don't have much on the bench that can beat Trump. Covid is going to be the issue at large in 2024. This shit isn't going away unless Dems absolutely tank and lose all of Congress in '22. Which is likely without cheating.
Trump fired Fauci from handling the coronavirus matter in August of 2020. Dr. Atlas was appointed in his place.
https://www.lewrockwell.com/2020/08/ron-paul/good-news-faucis-out-and-common-sense-might-be-returning/?source=patrick.net
You could say he should have completely fired him but Brandon would have still put him back where he was, just as he did.
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Ceffer
2021 Dec 24, 12:22pm
Ceffer
2021 Dec 24, 12:22pm
"Here's what I know. I know that if the deep state had their way, there would be no "vaccine" for 5 years. People would have sat at home with no money.
What would have happened next? FEMA would have been driving around dropping off food and it wouldn't be real meat but that fake processed meat. Then because you haven't worked in 2 years Black Rock would have bought our houses in foreclosure, and paid the mortgage so that we could live in them for free during the "pandemic."
So now we have no income, no food but we are fully on government assistance. Fake meat, fake cheese, maybe even some poisoned food with the same crap that they put in some of the vaccines.
While your sick aunt or mother or son sits at home dying from not getting proper medical attention, some people in the hoods aren't gonna eat that government meat and cheese. So they will start doing home invasions after all of the department stores were cleaned out.
But YOU ain't having that so you're gonna start shooting. Then your neighbor will say, screw this, I'm not gonna let them even get to the DOOR...start shooting people who step FOOT on their lawn. Then the police comes and since they no longer trust the government, guns are drawn on the police.
The citizen gets shot and killed, gunned down like a dog and the neighbors come out with THEIR guns in outrage. Now comes in more cops, maybe the national guard, and now we're in an old fashion Mexican standoff until someone pulls a trigger.
Suddenly the entire neighborhood is a lockdown no fly zone because of the pressure and stress on the citizens who feel they have nothing else to lose. All of this would have started from being locked down for too long and being forced to rely on a government who only cares about a global agenda.
And this is just ONE neighborhood...just one. Multiply this by 1000's and 1000's of times and you see MILLIONS dying in the streets from the largest civil war in history. If I were China, I'd send the missiles over right about then and take out the largest military defenses while the military is at war with it's own citizens.
And all that was needed to avoid this was to open up the dang country. The citizens were cowards. They didn't have the guts to stand up to this tyranny before it got to this point.
No. The citizens needed a placebo to make them think it was safe to take their power BACK from the tyrannical government. That's why Trump pushed the vaccines out there.
There was no scenario where no one would die. So Trump picked the pathway of least collateral damage and the people, who have no vision of possible future outcomes, are still complaining and calling Trump a traitor. You'll all thank Trump for his bravery when this is all over."
https://t.me/c/1315127140/36844?source=patrick.net
What would have happened next? FEMA would have been driving around dropping off food and it wouldn't be real meat but that fake processed meat. Then because you haven't worked in 2 years Black Rock would have bought our houses in foreclosure, and paid the mortgage so that we could live in them for free during the "pandemic."
So now we have no income, no food but we are fully on government assistance. Fake meat, fake cheese, maybe even some poisoned food with the same crap that they put in some of the vaccines.
While your sick aunt or mother or son sits at home dying from not getting proper medical attention, some people in the hoods aren't gonna eat that government meat and cheese. So they will start doing home invasions after all of the department stores were cleaned out.
But YOU ain't having that so you're gonna start shooting. Then your neighbor will say, screw this, I'm not gonna let them even get to the DOOR...start shooting people who step FOOT on their lawn. Then the police comes and since they no longer trust the government, guns are drawn on the police.
The citizen gets shot and killed, gunned down like a dog and the neighbors come out with THEIR guns in outrage. Now comes in more cops, maybe the national guard, and now we're in an old fashion Mexican standoff until someone pulls a trigger.
Suddenly the entire neighborhood is a lockdown no fly zone because of the pressure and stress on the citizens who feel they have nothing else to lose. All of this would have started from being locked down for too long and being forced to rely on a government who only cares about a global agenda.
And this is just ONE neighborhood...just one. Multiply this by 1000's and 1000's of times and you see MILLIONS dying in the streets from the largest civil war in history. If I were China, I'd send the missiles over right about then and take out the largest military defenses while the military is at war with it's own citizens.
And all that was needed to avoid this was to open up the dang country. The citizens were cowards. They didn't have the guts to stand up to this tyranny before it got to this point.
No. The citizens needed a placebo to make them think it was safe to take their power BACK from the tyrannical government. That's why Trump pushed the vaccines out there.
There was no scenario where no one would die. So Trump picked the pathway of least collateral damage and the people, who have no vision of possible future outcomes, are still complaining and calling Trump a traitor. You'll all thank Trump for his bravery when this is all over."
https://t.me/c/1315127140/36844?source=patrick.net
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tanked
2021 Dec 24, 1:06pm
Ceffer says
What's the name of that telegram chat? I tried to click on it but it won't show me anything since i'm not a member already. To become a member I'd need to know it's name.
"Here's what I know. I know that if the deep state had their way, there would be no "vaccine" for 5 years. People would have sat at home with no money.
What would have happened next? FEMA would have been driving around dropping off food and it wouldn't be real meat but that fake processed meat. Then because you haven't worked in 2 years Black Rock would have bought our houses in foreclosure, and paid the mortgage so that we could live in them for free during the "pandemic."
So now we have no income, no food but we are fully on government assistance. Fake meat, fake cheese, maybe even some poisoned food with the same crap that they put in some of the vaccines.
While your sick aunt or mother or son sits at home dying from not getting proper medical attention, some people in the hoods aren't gonna eat that government meat and cheese. So they will start doing home invasions after all of the department stores were cleaned out.
But YOU ain't having that so you're ...
What's the name of that telegram chat? I tried to click on it but it won't show me anything since i'm not a member already. To become a member I'd need to know it's name.
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Patrick
2021 Dec 24, 1:10pm
Patrick
2021 Dec 24, 1:10pm
Ceffer says
No way. Trump is a TRAITOR for pushing the death serum.
There Is no solution except an immediate permanent end to all the injections and the prosecution of everyone complicit in the greatest crime against humanity ever.
You'll all thank Trump for his bravery when this is all over
No way. Trump is a TRAITOR for pushing the death serum.
There Is no solution except an immediate permanent end to all the injections and the prosecution of everyone complicit in the greatest crime against humanity ever.
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tanked
2021 Dec 24, 1:31pm
Patrick says
In the effort to find truth, here's a video in support of your position:
original link
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Ceffer saysYou'll all thank Trump for his bravery when this is all over
No way. Trump is a TRAITOR for pushing the death serum.
There Is no solution except an immediate permanent end to all the injections and the prosecution of everyone complicit in the greatest crime against humanity ever.
In the effort to find truth, here's a video in support of your position:
original link
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Patrick
2021 Dec 24, 5:50pm
https://systemupdate.substack.com/p/video-transcript-why-are-hillary?source=patrick.net
This is not good either.
It sure looks to me like Trump has sold us out and joined up with Hillary and Biden.
Patrick
2021 Dec 24, 5:50pm
Why are Hillary and Trump United in Warning of Bitcoin's Dangers?
https://systemupdate.substack.com/p/video-transcript-why-are-hillary?source=patrick.net
This is not good either.
It sure looks to me like Trump has sold us out and joined up with Hillary and Biden.
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tanked
2021 Dec 24, 6:04pm
Patrick says
One explanation is that Bitcoin is a danger the Federal Reserve but Trump is actually ok with that. Once is it gone we can have a gov issued (not Federal Reserve issued) constitutional dollar that is not an FRN. His wife is selling NFTs on Solana.
Why are Hillary and Trump United in Warning of Bitcoin's Dangers?
https://systemupdate.substack.com/p/video-transcript-why-are-hillary?source=patrick.net
This is not good either.
It sure looks to me like Trump has sold us out and joined up with Hillary and Biden.
One explanation is that Bitcoin is a danger the Federal Reserve but Trump is actually ok with that. Once is it gone we can have a gov issued (not Federal Reserve issued) constitutional dollar that is not an FRN. His wife is selling NFTs on Solana.
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tanked
2021 Dec 24, 8:58pm
My current conclusion is - how does Trump avoid calling the 30%-50% of americans who took the shot, stupid?
The answer is, exactly what he has been doing. Verbally recommend them but be against the mandate.
He isn't calling the non jabbed stupid this way either.
If he did anything other than exactly what he's been doing that is calling the shot takers stupid. They might be dead within 5 years but they will be probably alive for the 2024 election.
How does he get both shot takers and shot refusers to vote for him? This way. Anything else would alienate one group. The verbal recommendation appeases most shot takers, the anti mandate appeases most shot refusers.
i dont care if trump is lying i want to use him to get my way and end the mandates asap
The answer is, exactly what he has been doing. Verbally recommend them but be against the mandate.
He isn't calling the non jabbed stupid this way either.
If he did anything other than exactly what he's been doing that is calling the shot takers stupid. They might be dead within 5 years but they will be probably alive for the 2024 election.
How does he get both shot takers and shot refusers to vote for him? This way. Anything else would alienate one group. The verbal recommendation appeases most shot takers, the anti mandate appeases most shot refusers.
i dont care if trump is lying i want to use him to get my way and end the mandates asap
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richwicks
2021 Dec 24, 9:12pm
richwicks
2021 Dec 24, 9:12pm
Patrick says
Haha, if these injections prove to be fatal (which I find to be HIGHLY doubtful), the reality is, we'll be in a very improved world in a decade and a hell of a mess to clean up.
Let me be very clear about this, I'm NOT a eugenicist, I don't believe in murder to "cull the herd", but if that's what's been done (which I find HIGHLY DOUBTFUL), those of us that remain can really clean up the world.
I've said MULTIPLE TIMES, if this is what is coming to pass, not only do we need to wipe out the people that did it, but obliterate their progeny through sterilization. IF they are doing a mass kill off of the population (VERY DOUBTFUL) if we don't do something drastic, they'll do it again. Eliminating their entire gene line, I think that's drastic enough. We don't have to kill them, just make certain they never reproduce.
The next decade is going to be interesting..
There Is no solution except an immediate permanent end to all the injections and the hanging of everyone complicit in the greatest crime against humanity ever.
Haha, if these injections prove to be fatal (which I find to be HIGHLY doubtful), the reality is, we'll be in a very improved world in a decade and a hell of a mess to clean up.
Let me be very clear about this, I'm NOT a eugenicist, I don't believe in murder to "cull the herd", but if that's what's been done (which I find HIGHLY DOUBTFUL), those of us that remain can really clean up the world.
I've said MULTIPLE TIMES, if this is what is coming to pass, not only do we need to wipe out the people that did it, but obliterate their progeny through sterilization. IF they are doing a mass kill off of the population (VERY DOUBTFUL) if we don't do something drastic, they'll do it again. Eliminating their entire gene line, I think that's drastic enough. We don't have to kill them, just make certain they never reproduce.
The next decade is going to be interesting..
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tanked
2021 Dec 25, 12:57pm
Patrick says
What if Trump sincerely believes what he says? Thinks the shots are good for adults of a certain age (not children) and opposes mandates lockdowns and masks.
He wouldn't have been the only one fooled by the extreme propaganda. Being fooled wouldn't make him a traitor.
Is this 100% ideal, of course not, let's push for someone else in the primary who actually gets it. But if it comes down to Trump vs Brandon you better believe Trump has by far the better position. Suggestions are one thing, laws are another.
Ceffer saysYou'll all thank Trump for his bravery when this is all over
No fucking way.
Trump is a TRAITOR for pushing the death serum.
Trump is now a shitstain on US history. He had some good things going, then he started sucking Pfauci's little penis.
There Is no solution except an immediate permanent end to all the injections and the hanging of everyone complicit in the greatest crime against humanity ever.
What if Trump sincerely believes what he says? Thinks the shots are good for adults of a certain age (not children) and opposes mandates lockdowns and masks.
He wouldn't have been the only one fooled by the extreme propaganda. Being fooled wouldn't make him a traitor.
Is this 100% ideal, of course not, let's push for someone else in the primary who actually gets it. But if it comes down to Trump vs Brandon you better believe Trump has by far the better position. Suggestions are one thing, laws are another.
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Ceffer
2021 Dec 26, 12:27pm
Ceffer
2021 Dec 26, 12:27pm
Is Trump's 'support' of the vaccine flushing out stealth Mockingbird RINOs who use it to divide conservatives? It is hard to parse Trump's strategies, but strategy there seems to be.
As Ted Cruz has said when up against him: "Trump is unpredictable."
As Ted Cruz has said when up against him: "Trump is unpredictable."
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Patrick
2021 Dec 26, 3:58pm
Patrick
2021 Dec 26, 3:58pm
tanked says
I don't think he does. I think he still wants credit for "operation warp speed" and cannot bear to ever admit he was wrong there. And this vaxx is very VERY wrong.
But then at another level, I think he may have simply sold out. There's just too much money and power to be grabbed by demanding universal injections.
tanked says
DeSantis is looking pretty good there, but I'd be happier if he would talk about how effective ivermectin and other cheap early treatments are. He goes on about monoclonal antibodies, but guess what? That's just another expensive injection which funnels money to Big Pharma. So I'm skeptical of that.
What if Trump sincerely believes what he says?
I don't think he does. I think he still wants credit for "operation warp speed" and cannot bear to ever admit he was wrong there. And this vaxx is very VERY wrong.
But then at another level, I think he may have simply sold out. There's just too much money and power to be grabbed by demanding universal injections.
tanked says
let's push for someone else in the primary who actually gets it
DeSantis is looking pretty good there, but I'd be happier if he would talk about how effective ivermectin and other cheap early treatments are. He goes on about monoclonal antibodies, but guess what? That's just another expensive injection which funnels money to Big Pharma. So I'm skeptical of that.
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joshuatrio
2021 Dec 27, 1:13pm
joshuatrio
2021 Dec 27, 1:13pm
Ceffer says
I've thought this as well.
Seems to me that this BS is being rushed. Every 3-6 months new scary variant. Too many boosters too soon. It's hard to digest and completely unbelievable.
Seems their cover was blown a while back and credibility has vanished.
Everyone I know is still alive lol. Only people who got hella sick were those who got the shots.
I've thought this as well.
Seems to me that this BS is being rushed. Every 3-6 months new scary variant. Too many boosters too soon. It's hard to digest and completely unbelievable.
Seems their cover was blown a while back and credibility has vanished.
Everyone I know is still alive lol. Only people who got hella sick were those who got the shots.
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Onvacation
2021 Dec 27, 1:16pm
Onvacation
2021 Dec 27, 1:16pm
joshuatrio says
Yup.
The only person I know that died "of Covid" was double jabbed.
Only people who got hella sick were those who got the shots.
Yup.
The only person I know that died "of Covid" was double jabbed.
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Booger
2021 Dec 27, 1:46pm
Booger
2021 Dec 27, 1:46pm
Fortwaynemobile says
Those people fleeing NY are probably overwhelmingly Conservatives. Would not be surprised to see NY stay retarted to the point where people like me won't even set foot in the state, even for a funeral.
Look more at NY, Democrats are about to lose the vote there. So they quickly passed the “let us stuff the ballot box bill”, Republicans cucked as usual.
Those people fleeing NY are probably overwhelmingly Conservatives. Would not be surprised to see NY stay retarted to the point where people like me won't even set foot in the state, even for a funeral.
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Patrick
2021 Dec 29, 10:07am
Patrick
2021 Dec 29, 10:07am
https://spectatorworld.com/topic/donald-trump-pro-vaccine-stance-prove-undoing/?source=patrick.net
Will Trump’s pro-vaccine stance prove his undoing?
The former president might end up showing that he’s lost touch with the movement he built
Will Trump’s pro-vaccine stance prove his undoing?
The former president might end up showing that he’s lost touch with the movement he built
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Bd6r
2021 Dec 31, 6:11pm
Bd6r
2021 Dec 31, 6:11pm
Booger says
Nope, a lot of transplants to TX are libruls, I'd say way over 70 pct. I've even heard them talk about making Texas blue, but in a different blue compared to what they ran away from.
Those people fleeing NY are probably overwhelmingly Conservatives.
Nope, a lot of transplants to TX are libruls, I'd say way over 70 pct. I've even heard them talk about making Texas blue, but in a different blue compared to what they ran away from.
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Ceffer
2021 Dec 31, 6:55pm
Ceffer
2021 Dec 31, 6:55pm
Maybe Trump just figures most of the people buying the vax kool aide are liberals, and it will just thin their herd. The sensible conservatives will stick to their anti jab guns.
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Patrick
2022 Jan 5, 9:14pm
Patrick
2022 Jan 5, 9:14pm
https://www.infowars.com/posts/trumps-vaccine-support-may-cost-him-victory-in-2024/?source=patrick.net
Yup. Being for the death jab is the death knell for Trump.
Trump’s most ardent supporters are turning against him, publicly ripping into him since he voiced his wholehearted approval of Covid vaccines.
Yup. Being for the death jab is the death knell for Trump.
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Patrick
2022 Jan 12, 8:45pm
Patrick
2022 Jan 12, 8:45pm
https://www.hennessysview.com/p/was-the-pandemic-revenge-for-trumps?source=patrick.net
Maybe because Trump couldn't beat the pharma mafia, he joined them.
Was the Pandemic Revenge for Trump's Attacks on Big Pharma?
People forget how hard Trump Pharma for price gouging
Bill Hennessy
“We’re lowering the cost of prescription drugs, taking on the pharmaceutical companies. You think that’s easy? It’s not easy. They come at you from all different sides. I wouldn’t be surprised if the hoax didn’t come a little bit from some of the people that we’re taking on. They’re very powerful. They spend a lot of money. Spend, I think, more money than any other group in the world, actually, in terms of lobbying and lobbying abilities. And I wouldn’t be surprised if some of the nonsense that we all have to go through — but that I go through — wouldn’t be surprised if it was from some of these industries like pharmaceuticals that we take on.”
—President Donald Trump, October 3, 2019
Maybe because Trump couldn't beat the pharma mafia, he joined them.
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If he doesn't win in 2024 he can't save the US and the world.
Did he figure out early on that this was the only way to win especially with rigged elections. Even cleaning them up best he can, he needs an overwhelming vote total to have a chance.