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I don't get it. What is the end goal? In the past 30 days almost everyone I know has gotten Covid. Thanksgiving was a wildfire of Covid here in IL. No one I know has gotten sick anything worse than a cold. Where is this $100 coming from and why? This keeps getting stranger as the days go by.

WookieMan says

Where is this $100 coming from

Taxpayers.

If you have to ask where it's coming from...it is coming from you.

If you have to bribe someone to do something doesn’t that make you a vaccine trafficker? If the government is trafficking vaccines then it is clear who is running the government.

And if you take $100 and allow yourself to be exploited, you are a prostitute.

"must be 18+ but no ID required"

key points:
-"must be 18+" is just a legal disclosure they have zero intention of adhering to, but puts the idea of age into you mind as you read it.
-"no ID required" directly following the age requirement is their way of saying "its ok to lie to us if youre not 18 yet"
- $100 isnt much money. it's not enough to coerce an unvaxxed adult to get the jab, but it IS enough to coerce a child.

This program mainly targets children IMO. It's goal is to vax children whose parents have been protecting them from it.

Hircus says

This program mainly targets children IMO. It's goal is to vax children whose parents have been protecting them from it.

You're probably right. I keep going back to why though? The last few weeks in my area and network of people have been bat shit crazy with Covid cases. Including the kids at school. We're talking 50 people I know. But no one is actually sick outside of the most minor Covid symptoms. A minor cold that you'd work through.

Misc says

If you have to ask where it's coming from...it is coming from you.

How? Federal income taxes? I think they're just printing it. Sure I pay the debt and interest on it, but giving big Pharma even say $50B is a drop in a 5 gallon bucket of money. I don't understand the reasoning behind vaxxing younger people and I'm talking 50 or younger. You still spread it. My wife had shorter sickness and so did other vaccinated family members, but they still felt sick. I know of zero severe cases of even one night in a hospital and I'm rather connected with a lot of people. Yet we pay people to get a vax for something that hasn't hospitalized 100's of people I know with confirmed cases over 2 years? Not one. 0%.

WookieMan says

I don't understand the reasoning behind vaxxing younger people and I'm talking 50 or younger. You still spread it.

I can think of at least 2 non-corruption reasons

-If we assume its true that the jab makes you less likely to contract it (which seems likely, although maybe not in the first few weeks after the jab), then jabbing as many ppl as possible will likely slow the spread. slowing the spread seems like it may have a handful of benefits like allowing them time to learn how to to treat the sick better, time to develop better meds to treat/prevent it, as well as hope the people who will eventually get it, get a future variant instead of the current variant. Ive heard viruses tend to mutate to become more infectious, but less deadly, as time goes on. Ive also heard viruses tend to die out on their own if the replication value per person falls below some virus-specific threshold, and even if the vaxd spread covid just as much as non vaxd, if others are less likely to contract it due to the jab (or any reason), it still drops the replication value.
-I know a vaccine which fights a virus in very narrow and specific ways will put a much different virus evolutionary pressure onto the virus mutations in the wild, compared to no vaccine and just letting people build broad natural immunity. I dont know the pros and cons of vax vs no vax regarding mutations, but I imagine if a strategy or hope exists as to how it mutates as a result of vax pressure, it is likely more effective if a higher % of the pop has the vax to maximize pressure.

The "save childrens lives by jabbing them" doesnt make much sense since they rarely die from covid. But they still spread covid, and I imagine reducing the spread is likely the reason for chasing the children w/ needles. but telling ppl to save a childs life by jabbing the child is likely much more motivating than telling ppl to save an old persons life by jabbing their child.

Hircus says

If we assume its true that the jab makes you less likely to contract it (which seems likely, although maybe not in the first few weeks after the jab),

Actually, getting "fully vaccinated" makes you about 450% more likely to catch Omicron than being unvaxxed.

https://dailysceptic.org/2021/12/22/triple-vaccinated-more-than-four-times-more-likely-to-test-positive-for-omicron-than-unvaccinated-data-shows/?source=patrick.net

Patrick says

Actually, getting "fully vaccinated" makes you about 450% more likely to catch Omicron than being unvaxxed.

I'm not sure that's a conclusion you can make from this data. It sounds like this is "of people who tested positive for covid, how many have omicron?"

Note that this is the probability of an infection being Omicron given a person is infected, so it doesn’t tell us how likely a person is to test positive in the first place. This means it doesn’t tell us that the vaccines are making things worse overall, only that they are making it much more likely that a vaccinated person is infected with Omicron than another variant. In other words, it is a measure of how well Omicron evades the vaccines compared to Delta. The fact that the triple-vaccinated are much more likely to be infected with Omicron than the double-vaccinated confirms this vaccine evading ability.

So it doesnt say youre more likely to get covid/omicron w/ the jab. It says if you get covid, those w/ the jab get omicron much more than those w/o the jab. This implies the non jabd get a different variant.

Maybe I'm wrong. I skimmed it.

It does mean, though, that the current Omicron outbreak is largely an epidemic of the vaccinated and is being driven, not by the unvaccinated, but by those who have been double and triple jabbed. Combined with the fact that Omicron has quickly grown to be the majority of new infections, it suggests the vaccinated are playing an outsize role in the current outbreak.

Perhaps when someone below 18 gets this vax, parents should sue the crap out of Austin

"MARK AS SPAM"

Patrick says

It does mean, though, that the current Omicron outbreak is largely an epidemic of the vaccinated and is being driven, not by the unvaccinated, but by those who have been double and triple jabbed. Combined with the fact that Omicron has quickly grown to be the majority of new infections, it suggests the vaccinated are playing an outsize role in the current outbreak.

As I understand it, the main mechanism of the "vaccine" is to cause the body to produce a spike protein. This protein is the toxin itself. The result of this is that it causes the immune system to attack the spike protein - provided the spike protein doesn't kill the vaccinated individual.

So vaccinated individuals are creating evolutionary pressure to REMOVE the spike protein from the virus. When a virus enters a vaccinated individual, if it wants to replicate and be passed on, it better get rid of that spike protein - and it did. So now we have Omicron, a fairly safe disease to have.

Maybe all this has been was an experiment to see verify that a disease that is dangerous, can be nullified by doing partial vaccination against the deadly elements of the disease by infecting individuals deliberately to the toxin of the disease. If that's the case and there is an push to reduce the world's population, the next "pandemic" will be a REAL one, that REALLY is dangerous and kills a LOT of people. To counteract this, again we'll go through this vaccine bullshit, and many people will die from it, but it will be enough to create evolutionary pressure to keep whatever is deemed "essential" alive, as they hide out in bunkers for a few months.

Disappearances of prominent people could be explained away as death - when in reality, they are just isolating. If 7.5 billion people die, nobody is going to notice when they re-emerge, the world will be decimated. This is going to be an interesting decade.

Hircus says

-If we assume its true that the jab makes you less likely to contract it

Falsehood number one

Hircus says

but telling ppl to save a childs life by jabbing the child is likely much more motivating than telling ppl to save an old persons life by jabbing their child.

Deliberate falsehood here.

Those two falsehoods are smokescreen for the real reason for the jab - money for Pharma and power to autocrats.

richwicks says

So vaccinated individuals are creating evolutionary pressure to REMOVE the spike protein from the virus. When a virus enters a vaccinated individual, if it wants to replicate and be passed on, it better get rid of that spike protein - and it did. So now we have Omicron, a fairly safe disease to have.

Omicron still has the spike, but it's different in 8 places or so, so the temporary immunity from the vaxx can't find it. In fact, the vaxxed are far more likely than the unvaxxed to get Omicron for some reason, maybe immune system damage.

Patrick says

It does mean, though, that the current Omicron outbreak is largely an epidemic of the vaccinated and is being driven, not by the unvaccinated, but by those who have been double and triple jabbed. Combined with the fact that Omicron has quickly grown to be the majority of new infections, it suggests the vaccinated are playing an outsize role in the current outbreak.

We'll see in a few months. I'll mark my words here that I do not believe jab = 4.5x more likely to get covid is anywhere near realistic.

I think this is a good example of cherry picking data, or being opportunistic about naturally skewed data, and then presenting it from a specific angle to get the desired result.

omicron's spread is only a few weeks or so into to the country, and likely has not spread very equally everywhere yet. I'd bet its spreading in dense urban, liberal, highly vaccinated areas first. In time, it will spread to other areas and social circles. You also need to compare jab vs non jab from people from the same areas who have similar behaviors, and account for non-jab never-had-covids vs non-jab have-had-covid (I'd expect natural immunity to get less omicron than both non-jab and jab groups) Comparing covid rates of urban libs who have lots of social contact to farmers who dont, wouldnt likely produce good results.

You need much better data than this. Counting numbers the way this article does is akin to polling people on Trump approval ratings by standing outside of a starbucks in NYC. Intentional or not, the results are wrong.

Look at the German data:

https://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2021/12/germany-96-latest-omicron-patients-fully-vaccinated-4-unvaccinated/?source=patrick.net


Germany: 96% of Latest Omicron Patients were FULLY Vaccinated – Only 4% Unvaccinated
By Jim Hoft
Published December 30, 2021

... Germany is 71% vaccinated.

They make far more money from the Jab off insurance and subsidies on each shot....

The $100 bucks is mere drop in the bucket for each shot....

It's just a rebate off the larger profit on each shot....

Basically a coupon....

They are making a lot of money and giving a little treat is worth it for them.

There are cash incentives around in ca too. Just searched 3 counties and all are offering incentives.
https://covid-19.acgov.org/vaccine-incentives?source=patrick.net
https://covid19.ca.gov/vax-for-the-win/?source=patrick.net
https://hhsa.cosb.us/vaccine-incentive-programs/?source=patrick.net

Patrick says

Omicron still has the spike, but it's different in 8 places or so, so the temporary immunity from the vaxx can't find it. In fact, the vaxxed are far more likely than the unvaxxed to get Omicron for some reason, maybe immune system damage.

Or natural immunity works by recognizing more proteins than just the spike

From page 14 of Robert Koch Institut Report:
Weekly COVID-19 management report dated December 30, 202114 Clinical-epidemiological data Additional information is known to some extent for the omicron cases in the reporting system. Information on the symptoms was provided for 6,788 cases; mostly no symptoms or mild symptoms were reported. The most common symptoms mentioned were runny nose (54%), cough (57%) and sore throat (39%). 124 patients were hospitalized, four people died. Exposure abroad was reported for 543 (5%) cases. 186 patients were unvaccinated, 4,020 were fully vaccinated, of which 1,137 were given a booster vaccination. On the basis of the transmitted data, 148 reinfections were determined among all transmitted Omikron infections; no previous illnesses were reported for any of the persons affected by reinfection. Figure 9 shows the distribution of the Omikron cases transmitted so far in Germany. Omikron cases were detected in all federal states.

Something seems off though as German cases per day are around 25,000+.

Patrick says

Look at the German data:

More data from Germany:

https://boriquagato.substack.com/p/german-omicron-data

I could see a lot of bums and winos going back to get thier $100 repeatedly.

Bd6r says

Patrick says

Omicron still has the spike, but it's different in 8 places or so, so the temporary immunity from the vaxx can't find it. In fact, the vaxxed are far more likely than the unvaxxed to get Omicron for some reason, maybe immune system damage.

Or natural immunity works by recognizing more proteins than just the spike

AND natural immunity creates B and T cells for long term protection. The jab merely creates antibodies, and short-lived ones at that.

Patrick says

More data from Germany:

All of this data is drawn from the same Robert Koch Institut report and they have issued a correction.
Correction: On p. 14, the number of unvaccinated people among the reported Omicron cases was corrected on January 3, 2022 (before: 186; after: 1,097)
Here is the complete text:
Clinical-epidemiological data
Additional information is known in some cases for the omicron cases in the reporting system. Information on the symptoms was provided for 6,788 cases; mostly no symptoms or mild symptoms were reported. The most common symptoms mentioned were runny nose (54%), cough (57%) and sore throat (39%). 124 patients were hospitalized, four people died. Exposure abroad was reported for 543 (5%) cases. 1,097 patients were unvaccinated, 4,020 were fully vaccinated, of which 1,137 were given a booster vaccination. On the basis of the transmitted data, 148 reinfections were determined among all transmitted Omicron infections; no previous illnesses were reported for any of the persons affected by reinfection.